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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (10 Viewers)
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JPeso
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Love Aaron Jones. Would I take him over Royce... possibly. I'm not a big Royce fan. You're trading up 5 or 6 spots in round 1 and getting a guy who likely out plays Royce at least for 2018.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
thanks for your comment. I gave up Cooper. I'm pretty high on JW, I think he is the WR1 out of this class possibly; JW or Sutton on my list. Smith I like as a TE2/3, possible 1 in 2019 if they dont re sign Walker.
I am a fan of Amari but I feel like his ceiling is wr10-12, and I'm concerned about the drops. in his spotlight thread some people had him as a low end wr2. His floor last year was putrid. so if I put him somewhere in the middle for his ceiling, wr18, I felt like this was good long term value.
the picks I gave I dont necessarily have roster space for anyways. This deal gives me potentially 4 of the top 5 picks in 2019 (very possibly 1-4), 7 of the top 14.
I think I gave a little more than I should have. Possibly better if I left out the 3rd rounder, but I looked at that as a throw in; if it meant getting the deal done it wasnt a big deal to me.
Pwingles
Footballguy
Right now I like the Collins side, if the predicted early pick is actually very early, the value might swing all the way to the other side
Coop
Royce
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Getting caught up, some are a little old.
12 man league
Team A gave up Gresham, Jermaine ARI TE;Kendricks, Mychal CLE LB
Team B gave up Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE
Team A gave up Brees, Drew NOS QB;Collins, Alex BAL RB
Team B gave up Wilson, Russell SEA QB; Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
Team A gave up Ajayi, Jay PHI RB;Evans, Mike TBB WR; Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
Team B gave up Cook, Dalvin MIN RB;Davis, Corey TEN WR; Year 2019 Round 4 Draft Pick from Team B
16 man leagues
Team A gave up Fleener, Coby FA TE; Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team C, $10 in blind bidding
Team B gave up Coleman, Corey CLE WR; Year 2019 Round 4 Draft Pick from Team B
Team A gave up Year 2019 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team A
Team B gave up Shaheen, Adam CHI TE; Year 2018 Draft Pick 2.03;Year 2018 Draft Pick 3.03
Team A gave up McKissic, J.D. SEA RB; Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team A
Team B gave up Cobb, Randall GBP WR
Team A gave up Jeffery, Alshon PHI WR
Team B gave up Rosen, Josh ARI QB
Team A gave up Golladay, Kenny DET WR;Hurns, Allen DAL WR
Team B gave up Year 2018 Draft Pick 8.01; Year 2019 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team B;Year 2019 Round 8 Draft Pick from Team B
Team A gave up Hyde, Carlos CLE RB
Team B gave up Diggs, Stefon MIN WR
Team A gave up Sanders, Emmanuel DEN WR; Year 2019 Round 8 Draft Pick from Team A
Team B gave up Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
Team A gave up Penny, Rashaad SEA RB
Team B gave up Drake, Kenyan MIA RB;Cook, Jared OAK TE; Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
12 man league
Team A gave up Gresham, Jermaine ARI TE;Kendricks, Mychal CLE LB
Team B gave up Rudolph, Kyle MIN TE
Team A gave up Brees, Drew NOS QB;Collins, Alex BAL RB
Team B gave up Wilson, Russell SEA QB; Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
Team A gave up Ajayi, Jay PHI RB;Evans, Mike TBB WR; Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
Team B gave up Cook, Dalvin MIN RB;Davis, Corey TEN WR; Year 2019 Round 4 Draft Pick from Team B
16 man leagues
Team A gave up Fleener, Coby FA TE; Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team C, $10 in blind bidding
Team B gave up Coleman, Corey CLE WR; Year 2019 Round 4 Draft Pick from Team B
Team A gave up Year 2019 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team A
Team B gave up Shaheen, Adam CHI TE; Year 2018 Draft Pick 2.03;Year 2018 Draft Pick 3.03
Team A gave up McKissic, J.D. SEA RB; Year 2019 Round 2 Draft Pick from Team A
Team B gave up Cobb, Randall GBP WR
Team A gave up Jeffery, Alshon PHI WR
Team B gave up Rosen, Josh ARI QB
Team A gave up Golladay, Kenny DET WR;Hurns, Allen DAL WR
Team B gave up Year 2018 Draft Pick 8.01; Year 2019 Round 1 Draft Pick from Team B;Year 2019 Round 8 Draft Pick from Team B
Team A gave up Hyde, Carlos CLE RB
Team B gave up Diggs, Stefon MIN WR
Team A gave up Sanders, Emmanuel DEN WR; Year 2019 Round 8 Draft Pick from Team A
Team B gave up Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
Team A gave up Penny, Rashaad SEA RB
Team B gave up Drake, Kenyan MIA RB;Cook, Jared OAK TE; Year 2019 Round 3 Draft Pick from Team B
Pwingles
Footballguy
Bolded;
Im an Evans fanboi
the pick in the coleman deal could be the most valuable piece
Same with the pick in the Cobb deal
the 1st in the Golladay deal looks to be early if im reading that right. Owns the 8.01 this year?
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Hankmoody
Footballguy
The Evans trade is kind of old so it was made before the Winston stuff came out but I think I still take Cook and Davis. Those are two guys that could both very easily be rated higher than Evans at this time next year. Cook is already there for me in PPR. The picks are irrelevant with a trade of that scope and I would happily roll the dice on Davis over Ajayi due to the long term potential.
edit: OK I see what you're saying now about the 8.01. Yes, the 2019 1st comes from the team that earned the 1.01 this year. The kicker is that he had traded his 1st last year, so didn't even get Barkley out of it. Ouch. I'm guessing that's a top 5 pick again. I do like Golloday though and I think Hurns will be a productive fantasy WR for a couple of years while DAL figures out what they are going to do. Maybe those guys win him some games. I'd have given a late 1st for both of them, but I wouldn't have given his.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
likely? I'd say at best it's a 50-50 proposition. I'm not a huge Freeman believer but I do think he has the easier path to carries and volume is the first step to production.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I disagree. Jones can do more with less carries, as he's already shown, and I expect him to be the starter by week 5. I don't anticipate that rapid of a path to starting for Freeman.
I'm super late to this one (been busy and slowly making my way through the missed pages), but I don't dislike the trade. I don't know how anyone could hate this draft, but IMO there is a steep drop off after 1.09. However, I wouldn't trade 1.10 until on the clock just in case someone screws up and selects someone other than the top 8 RBs or Moore.
I think there's a serious chance you are right about Cobb, although he might only be a one year rental (not sure he's on the team in 2019 and I don't like him w/o Rodgers). As for Goff, I'm not sure how people in this thread are so down on him. It was his first year in a new offense and he only played 15 games with a 5.8% TD rate and a 4:1 TD:INT ratio. People forget he's almost 2 years younger than Wentz, so he is still developing as a QB.
I think Cobb is worth a late second and Goff is worth an early 2nd, so 1.10 seems pretty fair.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
JFC are we really still on this? This is exactly the nonsense that I *want* to report but probably won't. It mostly just pisses me off. Please quit being pedantic about this opinion garbage. Can we talk about fantasy football please?
Dez
Footballguy
Don't forgot about the plethora of picks also given up in the deal wasn't just Gordon for 1.05. Lots of shots to get guys. Every year a couple guys fall to the 3rd/4th rounds. Last year JuJu was a 4th in one of mine, Howard a couple years ago was a 3rd in a couple of mine,Tyreek was a 6th/7th rounder, heck back in 2010 Antonio Brown your current #1 WR for past 4 years was a final pick 7.12 of the draft in one of mine and a waiver wire guy in another. Wentz and D-Watson were 3rd rounders in most of my leagues as well.
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Interseptopus
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
DTS? guessing that's a fancy name for a taxi squad. that's huge. wow. well, then in that case yeah I guess those picks matter more.
I am not a big fan of 1.05. that's looking at either Penny, Freeman, Jones. not overly excited about any of them. Maybe I'd take Jones there. or Freeman. Guess I'd probably take the pick and be happy about a guy with a for sure chance than a bunch of lotto tickets
ghostguy123
Footballguy
12 team PPR dynasty(can keep players forever)
Lamar miller and pick 12
For
Pick 8
Lamar miller and pick 12
For
Pick 8
Interseptopus
Footballguy
8. Big drop off after pick 10-11 IMO. Miller is great to see on your bench but he doesn't offer a whole lot of value based on his performance last year even as a bye week fill in. So for me this is 1.12 for 1.8, which is a no brainer
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ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Wow. Just to be clear, are you saying Miller has zero value? Thats what it sounds like. If so, completely and whole heartedly disagree with that. Guy is a starting RB on what might be a pretty potent offense. His top backup is coming back from an achilles (right?) that he suffered relatively late in the season, like week 10 or 11. He may not be ready for the beginning of the season (He may never be the same again), giving Miller a chance to shine with Watson coming back. I think he is a mid range RB2 myself, with far more value than 0.
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Yeah, his redraft ADP is 5th round and he's being drafted as a top-24 RB. He obviously has at least decent short-term value.
This trade seems pretty even to me. I'm assuming the team moving up to 1.08 was after a top rookie running back (likely Kerryon Johnson or Royce Freeman) and didn't highly value the 2nd round WRs that are likely the top options at 1.12 (Kirk, Sutton, etc.). Miller is a fair price to move up a few spots.
NeverEnough
Footballguy
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'm saying that Miller may have value in a trade, but I don't see him as a starting RB. I don't see him performing as RB2 by week 8, and not because Foreman coming back. I honestly don't expect anything from Foreman until at least 2019 if not never again. So I see Miller as a decent RB 3/4. At best a bye week fill in that I'm not happy about. I distinctly remember hearing rumors that Miller was on the bubble of being cut this offseason, so I am not sure how much faith Houston even has in him.
At the very least I'd agree that it's equal. I would much prefer 1.08 over 1.12 and Miller that's for sure.
Ray Barboni
Footballguy
Keep players forever? No contracts or salary cap type thing?
Seems boring.
Oh and I’ll take the 8th pick over Lamar Miller/12. I’d rather have Kerryon Johnson “forever”.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'm new to two dynasty leagues where you keep players forever. Rosters aren't terribly large (20 on one, and 26 on the other increasing to 32 during the offseason). It's really fun. Keeps things interesting with waivers and roster cut downs so far. I'm not bored in the slightest... but I am new.
I can see very large rosters getting boring
ghostguy123
Footballguy
It is a salary cap league but the rules dont really prevent you from keeping your entire team. it just might limit you on being able to trade for guys with high salaries. There are also contracts with options, and if you cut guys with time left on their contract you will have a salary cap penalty the following year.
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Milkman
Footballguy
The guys I like landed in spots with no clear path to playing time. A couple of the guys people like I don't even view them as the best RB on the team.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
12 team PPR TE Premium
I gave Josh Gordon, Dixon
I got Cobb, Riddick, 2019 1st & 3rd (has a legit chance to be 1.01)
I had too many shares of JG as I see it. This offer came out of nowhere.
I gave Josh Gordon, Dixon
I got Cobb, Riddick, 2019 1st & 3rd (has a legit chance to be 1.01)
I had too many shares of JG as I see it. This offer came out of nowhere.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Boston
Footballguy
I like it...getting those picks is a nice way to cash out on two headaches...gives you assets to make another move or you can simply sit tight until next year and add some quality youngsters...
Zyphros
Footballguy
Tejas
Footballguy
slackjawedyokel
Footballguy
A few from the last day or two:
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received Jay Ajayi (8%) and Derrick Henry (12%)
B: Received 2019 1st (mid, 5%), 2020 1st (unknown)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received Mike Williams (5%)
B: Received 2019 1st (mid-late, 3%)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received Joe Mixon (7%)
B: Received Keenan Allen (6%)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received Jordan Howard (17%)
B: Received 2018 1.10 (3%)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received Corey Davis (6%) and Christian McCaffrey (7%)
B: Received David Johnson (4%)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received 2018 1.14 (2%)
B: Received 2019 1st (high-mid, 5%)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received Jay Ajayi (8%) and Derrick Henry (12%)
B: Received 2019 1st (mid, 5%), 2020 1st (unknown)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received Mike Williams (5%)
B: Received 2019 1st (mid-late, 3%)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received Joe Mixon (7%)
B: Received Keenan Allen (6%)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received Jordan Howard (17%)
B: Received 2018 1.10 (3%)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received Corey Davis (6%) and Christian McCaffrey (7%)
B: Received David Johnson (4%)
16 team PPR Salary Cap
A: Received 2018 1.14 (2%)
B: Received 2019 1st (high-mid, 5%)
Probably right. Long term I like Shepard's chances pretty much. But if I had a solid team already and am just trading depth, I'd be tempted. If either of Reed or Hogan pan out this year he'll outscore Shepard by a decent margin IMO. I'd probably do it if I were win-now. I do like Hogan this year.Zyphros said:
Interseptopus
Footballguy
JPeso
Footballguy
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Decided to flip these guys in two separate deals.
Gave: Christian Kirk, 2019 3rd
Got: Robert Woods, Trequan Smith, 2019 6th
And
Gave: Jamaal Williams, Aaron Jones
Got: Burkhead, Chase Edmunds (cuff for camp), 2019 2nd and 3rd
Sum of trades:
Penny for Woods, Burkhead, Jordan Wilkens, Trequan Smith, Edmunds, 2019 2nd and 6th.
Dez
Footballguy
Interesting how vastly the views differ on players. In 1 of my rookie drafts Ridley went ahead of Chubb in the draft 7th vs 8th.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
personally you were better off not flipping.
I'm not a fan of Woods, especially with Cooks there. I feel like Woods'big year was more just out of chance being in a decent situation rather than him actually turning a corner. theres mo way that offense supports 4 fantasy viable targets in the passing game. Kirk will be far better than him imo. Smith I like, but to give up a 3rd and kirk for...
2nd and 3rd and Burkhead for GB RB is a mistake. I think whomever emerges as the go to guy in GB is going to be valuable. as someone who thinks that's Jones... and I know I'm in the minority here... but I think you just gifted away an rb1
skinfanjon
Footballguy
Thanks man. I don't post a lot but I read the forum regularly. Honestly we are in disagreement on about 90% of topics so this actually makes me feel better haha.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
lmao. I'm sure I'm in the minority here. It's all a matter of preference anyways. I'm not too crazy about any NE bac hist because it's a headache but if I were to own 1 it'd be burkhead for the expected gl carries.
I think Kirk is over hyped to be honest, so it could be a good sell, but I'm not a fan of woods. Smith might end up being to best player in that trade.
And I can definitely see a scenario where no RB does well in GB and they either sign a guy like Yeldon or draft Love or Harris. in that case you got a steal. Regardless, the general consensus for a RB in GB is maybe rb2, flex numbers. Burkhead, if things work out how they should, should be a rb2 easy
Tanner9919
Footballguy
Penny could be the next Jim Brown for all we know but it'll NEVER happen under Brian Schottenheimer's 3-n-out offense..
this team has 6-10 written all over it..Penny might be a great one..just not with Schottenheimer..
this team has 6-10 written all over it..Penny might be a great one..just not with Schottenheimer..
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Sebowski
Footballguy
JPeso
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Love the first flip hate the 2nd. After the net, I'd still prefer Penny. And I like Woods a bit more than most, I think. I expect Cooks to draw a lot of attention and for Woods to get a lot of targets. I like Trequan about the same as Kirk, so like I said I like that flip a lot. I would not have given those GB backs away that cheap, though. In the end I still like Penny the most. Just my ten cents.
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skinfanjon
Footballguy
Fair enough. I think I'm just higher on Burkhead than most are but it could certainly be a mistake. Sure do like seeing those reports of Michel fumbling.
