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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (17 Viewers)

12 team ppr dynasty

I overpayed for the 1.10 when Derrick Henry was sitting there.  Gave 2.4, 2.6, 2.8, 3.11, and a late 2017 second for the 1.10 to draft Henry.  Had a roster crunch for my 26 man roster and wasnt receiving much interest in the seconds.   Felt Henry was my best option.
let me start by saying I'm not a Henry supporter in ppr. I think this deal depends on how deep your bench is. If you could've rostered the other 4 guys you would've picked at those spots I would prefer all those dart throws. I might be in the minority here. Value wise I understand, in PPR Henry usually goes about 1.7 so all those picks for ~1.7 isn't unreasonable I just wouldn't have done it myself

 
let me start by saying I'm not a Henry supporter in ppr. I think this deal depends on how deep your bench is. If you could've rostered the other 4 guys you would've picked at those spots I would prefer all those dart throws. I might be in the minority here. Value wise I understand, in PPR Henry usually goes about 1.7 so all those picks for ~1.7 isn't unreasonable I just wouldn't have done it myself
Agreed completely.  If those guys are just going to be cut candidates in August due to depth it's a nice consolidation to get to Henry.  But I also would prefer the 4 shots if you have room or a Taxi to stash them on.   Perkins, Howard, Prosise, Deandre Washington, Smallwood, Boyd, Cooper, Caroo, Braxton, the TE's - lots of chances to hit an Allen Robinson type home run and in PPR there may not even be a big drop off to one of those catch-heavy type RB's.

 
14 team PPR, 6 point TD for all, TE premium. I'm not involved in this one.

Team A: Drew Brees, 2017 1st

Team B: Andrew Luck
Is Team A a bad team?  Seems like the only way this works for B is if that pick ends up being early and turns into one of the big running backs.

 
let me start by saying I'm not a Henry supporter in ppr. I think this deal depends on how deep your bench is. If you could've rostered the other 4 guys you would've picked at those spots I would prefer all those dart throws. I might be in the minority here. Value wise I understand, in PPR Henry usually goes about 1.7 so all those picks for ~1.7 isn't unreasonable I just wouldn't have done it myself
What he said mainly and  it's true that he does not normally make it to 1.10 so in that regard you got some ADP value.

But for me I was not big on Henry as a PPR performer before the NFL draft. Then he goes to a team that already had Demarco.  Now my first though with Demarco is maybe he's really on the kind of contract that's essentially a 1-2 year deal with team options going forward.  Maybe like the deals CJ Anderson and Ivory signed where most of the guarantees are in year one and all guarantees are expired after year 2. 

But once I examined Demarco's contract I got even less excited. He's got a guaranteed base portion of his salary of $3 million per year all the way through the end of the 2018 season, basically right around half of his base salary guaranteed. Suffice to say once I saw that I was even less excited about Henry. 

 
Is Team A a bad team?  Seems like the only way this works for B is if that pick ends up being early and turns into one of the big running backs.
A had another teams 2017 1st. That team is mediocre. Doubtful for playoffs but also doubtful for top pick. I'd guess the pick would be in the 3-7 range when all is said and done. 

 
What he said mainly and  it's true that he does not normally make it to 1.10 so in that regard you got some ADP value.

But for me I was not big on Henry as a PPR performer before the NFL draft. Then he goes to a team that already had Demarco.  Now my first though with Demarco is maybe he's really on the kind of contract that's essentially a 1-2 year deal with team options going forward.  Maybe like the deals CJ Anderson and Ivory signed where most of the guarantees are in year one and all guarantees are expired after year 2. 

But once I examined Demarco's contract I got even less excited. He's got a guaranteed base portion of his salary of $3 million per year all the way through the end of the 2018 season, basically right around half of his base salary guaranteed. Suffice to say once I saw that I was even less excited about Henry. 

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Here is my 26 man roster (at 25 now with henry)

Qb - bortles, ryan cutler

Te - gronk ebron walford

Rb - ap, zeke, hill, bernard, mg3, matt jones, mckinnon, henry

Wr - dez, obj, evans, kwhite, dgb, perriman, treadwell, michael thomas

D - broncos and chiefs

K - catanzaro

 
Here is my 26 man roster (at 25 now with henry)

Qb - bortles, ryan cutler

Te - gronk ebron walford

Rb - ap, zeke, hill, bernard, mg3, matt jones, mckinnon, henry

Wr - dez, obj, evans, kwhite, dgb, perriman, treadwell, michael thomas

D - broncos and chiefs

K - catanzaro
Hell of a team, makes more sense if you like Henry to give the pick surplus and just store Henry in the garage for awhile if need be.

 
Agreed completely.  If those guys are just going to be cut candidates in August due to depth it's a nice consolidation to get to Henry.  But I also would prefer the 4 shots if you have room or a Taxi to stash them on.   Perkins, Howard, Prosise, Deandre Washington, Smallwood, Boyd, Cooper, Caroo, Braxton, the TE's - lots of chances to hit an Allen Robinson type home run and in PPR there may not even be a big drop off to one of those catch-heavy type RB's.
I haven't seen any of these guys fall to 2.4 in my drafts. I could see Perkins possibly but the other guys would have to be a very rare occasion.

 
I haven't seen any of these guys fall to 2.4 in my drafts. I could see Perkins possibly but the other guys would have to be a very rare occasion.
in my drafts, routinely at 2.4 are Perkins, Howard, Washington, Smallwood, Cooper, Braxton. I also got Boyd at 2.7 in one. Mine are 12 team and it varies in each but the variance is wide after the top 4

 
in my drafts, routinely at 2.4 are Perkins, Howard, Washington, Smallwood, Cooper, Braxton. I also got Boyd at 2.7 in one. Mine are 12 team and it varies in each but the variance is wide after the top 4
My reference was to Perkins, Prosise, Boyd. 

My 10 leagues so far latest these guys have gone (Perkins every time) is 2.3.

2.1 once, 2.3 twice, 2.2 7 times. 

Are your leagues PPR? 

 
12 Team PPR:

Gave: AJ green/2017 1  (likely 7-12)

Got: OBJ/2017 3

Gave: Ingram

Got: 2017 1/2/4/4. Picks likely to be 7-12.

 
jeaton6 said:
My reference was to Perkins, Prosise, Boyd. 

My 10 leagues so far latest these guys have gone (Perkins every time) is 2.3.

2.1 once, 2.3 twice, 2.2 7 times. 

Are your leagues PPR? 
yes, all my leagues are ppr

 
FFPC, this one made just now during a startup

Team A gives TY Hilton and startup pick 9.4

Team B gives Alshon Jeffery and startup pick 10.10

we are only at pick 8.10 so don't know who the players are yet

 
PPR then standard scoring.

team a receives Cam Newton, Jonathon Stewart, Cole Beasley, 2017 1st (1.9-1.14 ish)

team b receives Zac Ertz, Willie Snead, Kendall Wright

 
12 Team PPR Dynasty QRRWWTKD + Flex + SuperFlex, TE Premium, 3 year contracts, no salary

Team B gives: Hurns, Olsen

Team C gives: Ertz, 1.02

 
PPR then standard scoring.

team a receives Cam Newton, Jonathon Stewart, Cole Beasley, 2017 1st (1.9-1.14 ish)

team b receives Zac Ertz, Willie Snead, Kendall Wright
Figure Ertz = the first; jstew and Beasley = snead.

Cam for wright?  I actually like wright but yikes.

 
2 trade I made.. 12teams PPR QWWWRRTKD and 1flex

gave : Diggs, 3.09, 3.10 and 2017 2nd

got: GTate, 2.09, 2.10 and 2017 3rd

gave: JStew and 2.10

got: Forte

 
I guess that's the half full argument.
just curious as to the negatives you see. It is rare for a TE to contribute immediately, usually takes a couple years. He is in a good spot to have the opportunity to put up better numbers this year. He maybe isn't a special athlete but I haven't seen anything yet to make me think his value is down. He is a breakout candidate. You are implying his value has gone down so I'm just trying to understand what I'm missing.

 
He hasn't looked very good when he was on the field. How much you wanna attribute that to everything but him is up to you. I keep my eye on pretty much every tight end and he just has never impressed me.

Now he's in what, year 4 of an offense in Flux? 

 
Do people still value Ertz as a first? Seems off by an entire round to me
He's a lot like Witten to me, more of a high volume receiver but not much of a red zone guy. 

So if Chip returned I'd have him as a top 5 TE, especially in TE premium leagues that default more towards higher volume receiving.  Chip leaving dented his value for me considerably, especially after seeing the lackluster way that the Chiefs used Kelce and fear that's an indication of his future. The coaches that Pederson mentored under don't ignore the TE, but generally middling in the TE usage and it's a concern to me along with less plays.

So in terms of single PPR leagues I'd rather have a random first. In TE premium leagues he's worth a mid to late first to me. I had a deal in place a few weeks ago to deal Ertz for pick 8 and 12 of a TE premium rookie/FA draft. My plan was to take Fleener at 8 who I actually like more than Ertz this year. I went to accept the trade, was looking it over to make sure I was not missing anything and literally as I went to hit accept it said something about not valid and that's when I got the e-mail the team making me the offer had picked at 8, missed it by about a second or two. Fleener went at pick 9. 

I ended up trading Ertz anyway for picks 10 and 12 and grabbed Hunter Henry and Michael Thomas.

 
He hasn't looked very good when he was on the field. How much you wanna attribute that to everything but him is up to you. I keep my eye on pretty much every tight end and he just has never impressed me.

Now he's in what, year 4 of an offense in Flux? 
I actually thought he looked fantastic finishing out the season and only reason it took so long was getting over his hernia surgery.  To put it in perspective he had same surgery as Foster about the same time and he was back in week one and Foster got back limited in week 4. IMO took Ertz sometime to fully recover and once he did was dominant to end the season.

I said earlier he'd have been top 5 in a TE premium league if Chip was back. I'd have ended up rating #2 or #3, I'd have liked Reed's per game production more but considered Ertz a safer injury risk and one of those two would have been my #2 and #3 TE. Not sure how I'd view them in single TE PPR, just don't play a lot of those leagues.

But Chip is gone and I thought Ertz was a 120 target in a full 16 healthy games in a Chip offense, I'm seeing him as more in the 100 range in the Pederson offense. I still think he's a 70 catch potential guy, but the problem in single PPR is the lack of TD's-just don't think that's a big part of his game. In single PPR a 70 catch/800 yard TE is nice but if only putting up about 5-6 TD's that's just an 11PPG type player which does not excite me.

 
12 team PPR

Team A gets: Jeffery, ASJ, 2017 1st (likely non playoff team, not from team B)

Team B gets: ARob, D.Murray

 
12 team 40 player rosters, TE Premium PPR, start 1QB, 1RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1RB/WR, 1TE/WR

A month or two ago I sent Lesean Mccoy for the 1.12, the general response was that it was a bad move for me.

Drafting right now, with the 1.11 on the clock

Sent 1.12, Spencer Ware
Received 2.03, 2.04

Players taken so far, Zeke, Doctson, Treadwell, Coleman, Shepard, Thomas, Boyd, Goff, Dixon, D. Henry. If I liked Fuller I probably would have stayed put, but hes behind 4 other dudes still on my board.

 
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12 team 40 player rosters, TE Premium PPR, start 1QB, 1RB, 3WR, 1TE, 1RB/WR, 1TE/WR

A month or two ago I sent Lesean Mccoy for the 1.12, the general response was that it was a bad move for me.

Drafting right now, with the 1.11 on the clock

Sent 1.12, Spencer Ware
Received 2.03, 2.04

Players taken so far, Zeke, Doctson, Treadwell, Coleman, Shepard, Thomas, Boyd, Goff, Dixon, D. Henry. If I liked Fuller I probably would have stayed put, but hes behind 4 other dudes still on my board.
So you gave up McCoy and Ware for two early 2nd rounders?  That seems awfully cheap for McCoy alone, much less adding Ware.

Who are you targeting at 2.3/2.4 that you expect to make that value back for you?

 
So you gave up McCoy and Ware for two early 2nd rounders?  That seems awfully cheap for McCoy alone, much less adding Ware.

Who are you targeting at 2.3/2.4 that you expect to make that value back for you?
Took Austin Hooper and Hunter Henry with Will Fuller, Malcom Mitchell and Pharoh Cooper still on the board.

Was targeting Hooper and Henry. A guy had the 2.03, 2.04, 2.06 and 2.08. Offered him the 1.12 for the 2.03 and 2.04, he said he would do the 2.03 and 2.08 so I threw in Ware to get the 2.04.

The problem in that league is you can start up to 5 WRs and up to 2 RBs, but when I made the deal to move Mccoy I was at position max for RBs, hoping to add Prosise in this draft (went 2.02,) I have plenty of RB depth David Johnson, Mark Ingram, Dion Lewis, Ameer Abdullah  Danny Woodhead and Shane Vereen. I'm also sitting at 11/12 WRs atm, I have a couple I could cut but I have 7 late round lottery tickets that gotta fit on my squad.

WRs for those who care, A. Brown, S. Watkins, J. Edelman, M. Bryant, K. White, D. Parker, M. Jones, D. Funchess, R. Randle, M. Wallace, B. Coleman (will probably be cut now that they've added Thomas).

 
So you gave up McCoy and Ware for two early 2nd rounders?  That seems awfully cheap for McCoy alone, much less adding Ware.

Who are you targeting at 2.3/2.4 that you expect to make that value back for you?
McCoy went for picks 1.13  and 3.04 in one of my drafts a few weeks ago. (16 team league)

 
12 team PPR

Team A gets: Jeffery, ASJ, 2017 1st (likely non playoff team, not from team B)

Team B gets: ARob, D.Murray
I like Robinson but I'm not sure how much better I like him than Jeffrey, if at all, and I like a future first a lot more than murray, so give me the Jeffery side.   Asj is just a nice bonus.  Robinson had everything work perfect for him last year and Jeffrey didn't so it looks like their values are a lot different but they ought to be in the same tier or at most a tier apart.  Similar age. Similar upside.   Any time I can get a major upgrade on one side for trading two guys who are pretty close on the other,  I do it.  

 
14 team PPR, 2 flex, TE premium

A gets: Allen Robinson

B gets: Kevin White, Leonte Carroo, and 2017 1st

I see it from both sides and it seems pretty fair. 

 

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