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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (27 Viewers)

Snorkelson said:
 I think this is a smokescreen by all you diggs owners out there, trying to spike his value right before the draft. 
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12 leagues own him in 0. Don't like him at all. This is a nice haul for Julio. Breaking it down from ADP POV it's 4, 75, 104 for 25 (Hilton), 62 (Diggs) 93 (1.10) plus two 2017 1's which aren't being dealt in any of my leagues. 

 
12 team PPR - starting a rebuild

Gave: Charles, Barnidge, 2017 2nd (not mine, from a likely playoff team)

Got: Hillman, 2.10 and a 2017 1st (borderline if he's a playoff team or not)

 
Sitch said:
12 team PPR - starting a rebuild

Gave: Charles, Barnidge, 2017 2nd (not mine, from a likely playoff team)

Got: Hillman, 2.10 and a 2017 1st (borderline if he's a playoff team or not)
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Sitch said:
I may have sold Charles a tad low but I think after this year, you'd be hard pressed to get a 1st for him.  2 ACL injuries, over 30, etc....won't carry a full load anymore either.
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The problem is you didn't "sell Charles for a 1st," you sold him for a move-up from the second to the first.  Your predicting late second to maybe midfirst, but if things go south you might find that you paid Charles for a few slots late in the draft.  

I havent tried to shop Charles, but would expect you could get a bit more for him.  Maybe not...has his dynasty value already tanked?  (If so, maybe I should be buying...)

 
Sitch said:
Where would the pick have to land to justify the deal in your opinion? 1-4?
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if you are rebuilding I'm guessing you traded the 2.1 or 2.2 to him so I think I'd need that 1st to be 1.4 or better. I still don' think I make the deal though, Hillman and 2.10 don't have much value. Charles still a top back but he is getting older I think you wait and move him in season. 

 
Aunt Jemima said:
if you are rebuilding I'm guessing you traded the 2.1 or 2.2 to him so I think I'd need that 1st to be 1.4 or better. I still don' think I make the deal though, Hillman and 2.10 don't have much value. Charles still a top back but he is getting older I think you wait and move him in season. 
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The 2nd I traded was not mine.  Its from a team that is likely a playoff team.  And the 1st I got, really it could go either way.  I think its more likely than not that he misses the playoffs but you never know.  

 
I think Hurns is pretty underrated.  The guy was playing with a serious hernia last year and still put up good numbers.  Unlike some guys he did it fairly consistently too, he didn't really have a crazy game or two that juiced his end of season stats.  Jags offense looks to be on the rise to and, in a neat twist, looks to be one you'd want to get a piece of.

 
10 teamer, start 1 qb, 1 rb, 2 wr, 1 te, 2 flex, idp

A trades Fleener

B trades 2018 1st (who knows, but a young decent team)

A then trades that 2018 1st to

C for TJ Yeldon (A also owns Ivory)

 
kutta said:
Care to add some color to this? I think I agree but would like to hear your reasoning.
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I'll try and be as brief as a I can.  I think Hyde is a better RB than Hurns is a WR but I think Hyde has been hampered mainly by injuries and secondly supporting cast and at least one of those at least has a chance to improve next year.

I don't see Hurns as a JAG(no pun intended, really) or anything but due to a few issues I view him as more WR3. (1) They added a lot to the defense via FA and I expect them to add more with pick #5. I don't know Hurns exact breakdown and how much he specifically benefited from garbage production but I know the Jags as a team ranked  24th in scoring in the first half and 6th in the second. (2) Julius Thomas got one target in pre-season and broke his finger/hand and he did not return until week. From what I've heard and read from Jags beat writers his role is going to grow especially since they plan to have whole off-season/camp to work him into the offense (3) Ivory signing to me  signals a team that wants to run it more or more consistently. (4) lastly think if Lee can ever remain healthy does some things no other WR on that team does and can carve out a bigger piece of the pie.

All of those reasons boil down to one thing for me which is less involvement for Hurns in the offense and I don't think he can replicate a pace of one TE per 10.5 targets. I see him as similar to how I viewed Marvin Jones in Cincy.

 
12 team PPR:

I gave 2017 1st (late)

I got Breshad Perriman

Taking a shot with one of four 2017 1sts, this one coming from last year's champion and likely favorite for this year.  It's probably an overpay but what the heck I'm going to roll the dice.

 
barackdhouse said:
12 team PPR:

I gave 2017 1st (late)

I got Breshad Perriman

Taking a shot with one of four 2017 1sts, this one coming from last year's champion and likely favorite for this year.  It's probably an overpay but what the heck I'm going to roll the dice.
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I'd rather have the 2017#1. 

 
barackdhouse said:
12 team PPR:

I gave 2017 1st (late)

I got Breshad Perriman

Taking a shot with one of four 2017 1sts, this one coming from last year's champion and likely favorite for this year.  It's probably an overpay but what the heck I'm going to roll the dice.
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Love the justification- what the heck! 

 
12 team dynasty ppr

1.5 and Kamar Aiken for 2017 1st. (Probably 4-6)

The team getting the 1st in 17 now has 7 1sts in 17. 

 
14 Team PPR Dynasty

Team A: 2016 1.12 and Rookie 2.05 (19th overall)

Team B: 2017 1st and Rookie 2.13 (27th overall)

Tough to say now, but I'd project the 2017 1st somewhere around 3-7

 
What is Lat Murray worth in a dynasty, 12 team PPR. 

It seems like I cant give this guy away. I decided to start a rebuild this year, although my team is basically the Detroit Lions, rebuilding for the last decade. 

 
14 team PPR (1/2/2/1 plus 1 flex and 1 super flex)

Laquon Treadwell, 2.14, 3.14

for

Devonta Freeman, 2.05

(There are a total of 7 devy picks allowed in the rookie draft each year. Last devy usually goes off the board around 2.02.)

 
Dan Hindery said:
14 team PPR (1/2/2/1 plus 1 flex and 1 super flex)

Laquon Treadwell, 2.14, 3.14

for

Devonta Freeman, 2.05

(There are a total of 7 devy picks allowed in the rookie draft each year. Last devy usually goes off the board around 2.02.)
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2.5 seems to be on wrong side, at least for me, and I'd still rather have Freeman.

 
Dan Hindery said:
Interesting deal in 14 team PPR (1/2/3/1 plus 3 flex)

Stefon Diggs, Donte Moncrief, 1.15

for

Brandin Cooks, 3.01
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Woukd the people taking the Moncreif side feel different if the pick was described as 2.1?  Because that would usually be how the 15th pick of a 14-team draft would be described,..

I'd still take Moncreif.  Never been a Cooks fan.

 
Team A gets Tyler Lockett $1, Team B gets Duke Johnson $42..$220 cap. Ppr dynasty. Team B has b.cooks, k.benjamin, moncrief, agolor at wr and still lots of cash. So salary wise it's not ideal, but still plenty of cap space for team B

 
Zealots Field league.  PPR.

I gave up:
Kuechly, Luke CAR LB

The other owner gave up:
Lewis, Dion NEP RB
Martin, Doug TBB RB
Harbor, Clay NEP TE
Bowman, Navorro SFO LB

I was offered the deal.  :shrug:

 
Spike said:
Zealots Field league.  PPR.

I gave up:
Kuechly, Luke CAR LB

The other owner gave up:
Lewis, Dion NEP RB
Martin, Doug TBB RB
Harbor, Clay NEP TE
Bowman, Navorro SFO LB

I was offered the deal.  :shrug:
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Unless Kuechly was just traded to Denver to start at qb and can still be played in a lb slot, that haul is nuts.

 
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