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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (42 Viewers)

djmich said:
On both of those trades the key is you were going to move those guys, shopped them, and got market price.  Market price = what people in your league will pay, not what I think people in my league will pay or in your league should pay.  My appraisal is that you sold a little short, but actual buyers/sellers dictate price.
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Yeah I expected more. Was very surprised when only 2 teams gave me actual offers for AB when I basically told the whole league I was looking to trade him. I was very surprised, and as a owner that usually trades future value into current value to try and win it was actual frustrating that teams that could have easily bettered themselves for at least this year weren't interested in trading

 
djmich said:
On both of those trades the key is you were going to move those guys, shopped them, and got market price.  Market price = what people in your league will pay, not what I think people in my league will pay or in your league should pay.  My appraisal is that you sold a little short, but actual buyers/sellers dictate price.
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This is true though I find it rare that people fully shop their players.  In this instance I don't believe these players were fully shopped. He may have said he's rebuilding and everyone is available but definitely didn't reach out to everyone.  

However, one other thing to think about is while on paper it looks bad he does get the benefit of making his team significantly worse and since he holds his 2018 1 he may have gotten himself into contention for the 1.1 or top 3 pick at worst. Though it may be tough sledding because he is 3-2 and there are some trash teams at the bottom. 

 
Gave: Gallman, Snead, 1st, 1st (both playoff teams)

Received: Michael Thomas

I feel like it's a tad pricey for Thomas, but wanted to secure his services. 

 
jeaton6 said:
This is true though I find it rare that people fully shop their players.  In this instance I don't believe these players were fully shopped. He may have said he's rebuilding and everyone is available but definitely didn't reach out to everyone.  

However, one other thing to think about is while on paper it looks bad he does get the benefit of making his team significantly worse and since he holds his 2018 1 he may have gotten himself into contention for the 1.1 or top 3 pick at worst. Though it may be tough sledding because he is 3-2 and there are some trash teams at the bottom. 
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I'm 1-4 right now. I'm pretty sure I sent some sort of trade to every team, maybe not for AB tho. Crabtree is still available, send me some offers

 
FreeBaGeL said:
For me it's...

Diggs > Landry
Eifert > Walker

Good buy low on the injured guys I think.
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I'm don't value Eifert much at all, personally.  But the gap between the WRs is bigger than Walker, IMO.  The other owner wasn't as motivated to move Diggs until he was ruled out--so that certainly played a part. 

 
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FreeBaGeL said:
Eifert > Walker
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You would be hard pressed to find someone who was higher on Eifert prior to his breakout 2013 season  and I almost always go with youth but all that being said this take is very surprising to me.  He's had a 5 year career with one TD dependent good season. He's more of a fantasy ghost then Josh Gordon in the sense he's been hanging on rosters for years based mainly on a one year run(which was only 13 games).

I got him on just one dynasty league, FFPC, and I'll cut him before I'll waste an roster spot on him in the off-season, 28 years old or not.  I think a good chance he never plays again, but a really really strong chance he just never any good again. 2013 was a long time ago. If I was 100% sure Walker would never play after this season I'd still take him because the ROS is of Walker is more than Eifert has left in his whole career.

As for the trade itself I think it's close but would take Landry/Walker because durability does matter sometimes.

 
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menobrown said:
You would be hard pressed to find someone who was higher on Eifert prior to his breakout 2013 season  and I almost always go with youth but all that being said this take is very surprising to me.  He's had a 5 year career with one TD dependent good season. He's more of a fantasy ghost then Josh Gordon in the sense he's been hanging on rosters for years based mainly on a one year run(which was only 13 games).

I got him on just one dynasty league, FFPC, and I'll cut him before I'll waste an roster spot on him in the off-season, 28 years old or not.  I think a good chance he never plays again, but a really really strong chance he just never any good again. 2013 was a long time ago. If I was 100% sure Walker would never play after this season I'd still take him because the ROS is of Walker is more than Eifert has left in his whole career.

As for the trade itself I think it's close but would take Landry/Walker because durability does matter sometimes.
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I'm not sure what 2013 has to do with anything.  His good year was two years ago (2015) and last year he was TE5 over the 7 game stretch he played, with a pace of 64-880-11.

These guy's value is always at its lowest right after their injury when everyone is upset about it.  I'd rather hold Eifert and see what happens then have a half-season of mid/back-end TE1 production from Walker, who is currently sandwiched right in the middle of Charles Clay, Cameron Brate, Ed Dickson, and Jesse James in TE scoring.

Yes back injuries are scary but the only other TE to go through this many back issues is the consensus #1 dynasty TE right now so it's not necessarily a career ender.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
I'm not sure what 2013 has to do with anything.  His good year was two years ago (2015) and last year he was TE5 over the 7 game stretch he played, with a pace of 64-880-11.

These guy's value is always at its lowest right after their injury when everyone is upset about it.  I'd rather hold Eifert and see what happens then have a half-season of mid/back-end TE1 production from Walker, who is currently sandwiched right in the middle of Charles Clay, Cameron Brate, Ed Dickson, and Jesse James in TE scoring.

Yes back injuries are scary but the only other TE to go through this many back issues is the consensus #1 dynasty TE right now so it's not necessarily a career ender.
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Sorry, was thinking of rookie season not the ONE good year he had.

He's had one good season and he's damaged goods. Legit worry that due to 4-6 month timeframe given means this is more than just his third disc surgery for his back and more career worry fusion surgery. I think he's damaged goods and has done so little in his 5 year career it's not worth wasting a roster spot on in hopes that at age 28 he's magically going to be get healthy.

 
14 Team .. no ppr...standard scoring

Gave: Hurns and 2018 2nd Round (mid)

Got: Theilen 

Nothing special, but a better trade chip than Hurns to include in some future deal.

 
menobrown said:
Sorry, was thinking of rookie season not the ONE good year he had.

He's had one good season and he's damaged goods. Legit worry that due to 4-6 month timeframe given means this is more than just his third disc surgery for his back and more career worry fusion surgery. I think he's damaged goods and has done so little in his 5 year career it's not worth wasting a roster spot on in hopes that at age 28 he's magically going to be get healthy.
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I also think he never plays again or is a shell of his 2015 season. I traded Eifert, Lacy, and my 2nd round pick (2.11 or 2.12) for Jimmy Graham. I don't think I'm losing much and thinking Jimmy will be a top 6 TE for a few years.

 
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Anyone moving Zeke?

I was offered J. Landry, Julio & D. Murray for my Zeke, Morris & Marvin Jones in dynasty PPR. Not sure what I should do.

 
Magic_Man said:
Anyone moving Zeke?

I was offered J. Landry, Julio & D. Murray for my Zeke, Morris & Marvin Jones in dynasty PPR. Not sure what I should do.
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Love that for you in PPR.

Zeke is a knucklehead.  Thi smay not be his last run in with the league office.  Thats a very solid exit from potential future headaches, and you get a top 5 PPR dynasty asset back.

 
SleepyIDP said:
10 Team No PPR standard scoring IDP dynasty

Team A receives: AB. Oliver Vernon

Team B receives: Amari Cooper and 2018 1st(likely late)
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Brown pretty easily. Although before the season I was told by the Cooper owner that he wouldn't trade Cooper straight for Antonio. 

msudaisy26 said:
Pretty even and I see both sides. 
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Yep

jeaton6 said:
This is true though I find it rare that people fully shop their players.  In this instance I don't believe these players were fully shopped. He may have said he's rebuilding and everyone is available but definitely didn't reach out to everyone.  

However, one other thing to think about is while on paper it looks bad he does get the benefit of making his team significantly worse and since he holds his 2018 1 he may have gotten himself into contention for the 1.1 or top 3 pick at worst. Though it may be tough sledding because he is 3-2 and there are some trash teams at the bottom. 
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Honestly I don't really expect other owners to reach every other team. Posting should suffice to get the other teams interest. I'll reach out to other teams to maximize value but don't get upset if others don't.

Bfrahm3 said:
Yeah I expected more. Was very surprised when only 2 teams gave me actual offers for AB when I basically told the whole league I was looking to trade him. I was very surprised, and as a owner that usually trades future value into current value to try and win it was actual frustrating that teams that could have easily bettered themselves for at least this year weren't interested in trading
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This, but that's why trading for current value usually works.

jeaton6 said:
I could have. Had he more aggressively shopped them.
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So it's his fault you didn't make an offer?

FreeBaGeL said:
For me it's...

Diggs > Landry
Eifert > Walker

Good buy low on the injured guys I think.
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I'll take Walker over the always injured eifert.

fruity pebbles said:
16 team ppr. Traded Julio and Ogletree for Beckham. Ogletree is probably worth a high 2nd. 
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I like ogletree a lot. He's a proven young lb1, a core guy in IDP. He scores about the same as McCoy in the league I have him. I've usually tried to get a really good group of LBs I can hold for years. I'd easily give a late 1st (drafted Foster this year and for now I think ogletree is slightly more valuable). But I do think I'd give him and Julio for OBJ.

 
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Just sold-injured on Kuechly.  Got Taywan Taylor, Chandler Jones and a 3rd in an idp-heavy league.

Too nervous Kuechly's career will be severely shortened by the recurring concussions.

 
Arodin said:
Just sold-injured on Kuechly.  Got Taywan Taylor, Chandler Jones and a 3rd in an idp-heavy league.

Too nervous Kuechly's career will be severely shortened by the recurring concussions.
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Could be a really good buy low for the other guy but yeah, I'd have to think about trading him or watt for players I like. I have Luke on one league, think I'd want more right now but I don't know if I'd get it.

 
I just moved Zeke, Morris & Marvin Jones for Julio, D. Murray & Landry in PPR. I then moved Julio & Njoku (I still have Gronk & picked up Kroft) for Ajayi & T. Hill. Now I'm shopping Murray & Lynch for a backup QB upgrade and/or better RB for a combo deal.

 
Busy day in the two leagues I’m in. 16 team ppr. Leveon Bell, Alex Smith and Landon Collins for Gurley and Dak Prescott. Collins is worth roughly a mid 1st in our scoring, maybe pick 10-12 or so.

 
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