Beaver up a tree won’t get wet.First Barkley share.
Gave Elliott, Samuel
Got 1.1, Fuller
Me neither. By the way, it is ridiculous/impressive you started this by getting Zeke for Julio.I have no idea what this means.
He has been really interested in swapping our 1st rounders since he joined the league, despite the fact we have finished 1st or 2nd for the last four years. Almost as if to say, my team is better than yours. What makes that comical to us is that he didn’t build that team, he bought it. We felt that deal was a gift given there isn’t a chance we are worse off than 1.9.Me neither. By the way, it is ridiculous/impressive you started this by getting Zeke for Julio.
Barkley/Fuller. Wet beaver in a tree or not.First Barkley share.
Gave Elliott, Samuel
Got 1.1, Fuller
I believe that in your situation here, you made the appropriate move with the 2.05 draft asset. And don't let anyone convince you might have done so. I cannot get Williams for 2.06 or 2.07 in my leagues - nor sell him for that price. And I also own Jones in another of my leagues. Notice that he is basically unavailable as well in free agent pools. GL in 2018.Gave 2.05
Got Jamaal Williams
Kind of a gamble, Packers could always add in the draft but I doubt it. I own Jones but with legal issues looming, I thought hedging my bets would be the best course.
Perfectly executed and I couldn't agree more.Beaver up a tree won’t get wet.
Prefer 2.5Gave 2.05
Got Jamaal Williams
Kind of a gamble, Packers could always add in the draft but I doubt it. I own Jones but with legal issues looming, I thought hedging my bets would be the best course.
Are some Zealots Classic leagues still converting to PPR leagues? I thought that was a one time vote.Should be late. I was #2 seed this year and the league will switch to PPR which should make my team even better.
Serpentine rookie draft? How's that working? I have never been in a league that does serpentine for rookie picks after the first year.BigTex said:Yes, the guy is a contender and we have the serpentine draft. Should be on worse the 13th overall pick at worst.
Tex
That's crazy high in a startup. Around 8 seems right. Although I would take him over McCaffery.Concept Coop said:Per DLF:
Brown: 4
McCaffrey: 22
And I think that’s really early for McCaffrey. Guice, Mixon, and Hill are no-brainers over him, for example.
Just my opinion, of course.
Everyone here will take the 1.01 but objectively that's not horrible. Kind of crazy that the contender had 3 2019 firsts plus the 6 to trade.Not involved, 12 tm ppr, tm A contending, tm B building
Team A gives: 1.6, and 3 2019 1sts (all mid to late)
Team B gives: 1.1 and 4.1
Sorry, should have been clearer, it’s a rookie/FA draft. We go 10 rounds.Serpentine rookie draft? How's that working? I have never been in a league that does serpentine for rookie picks after the first year.
That's crazy high in a startup. Around 8 seems right. Although I would take him over McCaffery.
In an ongoing league? Just seems different than most.Sorry, should have been clearer, it’s a rookie/FA draft. We go 10 rounds.
Tex
18 years, we change things up every five years to keep it interesting including how we draft.In an ongoing league? Just seems different than most.
Yep, Z39 just converted this year.northern exposure said:Are some Zealots Classic leagues still converting to PPR leagues? I thought that was a one time vote.
Couple years ago I got an offer in, get gronk, give fleener and a couple 2nds. Banking on someone blowing up is poor strategy.One owner is banking that Meredith is going to blowup in NO and sent me this offer that I quickly accepted!
I gave Meredith
I got 1.4 (which is actually 1.7 because Barkley, Guice and Chubb are gone)
Tex
Lol. That Meredith trade is pretty bad.Couple years ago I got an offer in, get gronk, give fleener and a couple 2nds. Banking on someone blowing up is poor strategy.
Does he have any 2019 picks you can get.
Sexy. I love waking up to those kind of offers.12 Team: 0.75 PPR for RBs, 1.0 for WR, 1.25 for TE.
Gave: 1.6, 1.11, 3:6
Got: Tyreek, 2.3
Offered to me cold.
Hill12 Team: 0.75 PPR for RBs, 1.0 for WR, 1.25 for TE.
Gave: 1.6, 1.11, 3:6
Got: Tyreek, 2.3
Offered to me cold.
Usually his offers are brutal in his favor so I was surprised to see this. Couldn’t figure out if he still thought he was pulling one over on me, and therefore I should counter or just take it. Ultimately decided not to get greedy.Sexy. I love waking up to those kind of offers.
Good to know. When was the vote to change held? I would like to see at least one of my 2 Classic leagues switch to ppr.Yep, Z39 just converted this year.
I wonder if he’s high on Watkins and thinks he’s selling high on Hill. Does the other owner also own Watkins? Or, whoever the Watkins owner is, might want to sell him high to that dude.Usually his offers are brutal in his favor so I was surprised to see this. Couldn’t figure out if he still thought he was pulling one over on me, and therefore I should counter or just take it. Ultimately decided not to get greedy.
Amazing climb for Brown and Hill. Who says those 7th round rookie picks are worthless.Hill
IIRC Just after the NFL season ended.Good to know. When was the vote to change held? I would like to see at least one of my 2 Classic leagues switch to ppr.
Yes I already have his 2nd round pick. He’s a contender so the 2nd is #14 at worst.Couple years ago I got an offer in, get gronk, give fleener and a couple 2nds. Banking on someone blowing up is poor strategy.
Does he have any 2019 picks you can get.
Not for long with those tradesYes I already have his 2nd round pick. He’s a contender so the 2nd is #14 at worst.
Tex

Nope, that beaver swam down the river.That's a wet tree beaver trade.
Nope, that beaver swam down the river.That's a wet tree beaver trade.
I won last year, beat him in the semi-finals. I’m trying to be careful as to what I give him yet I know 2019 will be a good year for WRs and possibly RBs...... stacking up now.Not for long with those trades![]()
I also have Watkins lol.I wonder if he’s high on Watkins and thinks he’s selling high on Hill. Does the other owner also own Watkins? Or, whoever the Watkins owner is, might want to sell him high to that dude.
I like Henry a lot but pretty sure I'd take the 2. Reasonable.FFPC scoring (1.5 PPR for TE)
Team A receives: Hunter Henry/1.12/2019 2nd/2019 3rd
Team B receives: 1.2
I don’t know, seems pretty reasonable to meUsually his offers are brutal in his favor so I was surprised to see this. Couldn’t figure out if he still thought he was pulling one over on me, and therefore I should counter or just take it. Ultimately decided not to get greedy.
He’s gone in the second round of my 3 startups this Year and was taken ahead of 1.2 in the two that include rookie picks. Hill was a top 10 receiver last year, not sure where you are pulling 1.5 from. The 3.6 has little value as we only draft 3 rounds of rookies (as you know).I don’t know, seems pretty reasonable to me
what is Hill worth in rookie pick value by himself? You’re obviously not getting 1.01 or 1.02 for him. 1.03 seems unlikely as well.
Maybe you could get 1.04 for him but I think 1.05 is probably more realistic.
Additionally they moved up from 2.03 to 1.11 and acquired a dart throw third rounder.
I would favor hill, but don’t think it’s anything to pound my chest
I've been considering offering the 4 for Hill for a while now, but figure it would be rejected before the draft. If things work out in the real deal and the 4's value increases some, I'll make that offer quickly.I don’t know, seems pretty reasonable to me
what is Hill worth in rookie pick value by himself? You’re obviously not getting 1.01 or 1.02 for him. 1.03 seems unlikely as well.
Maybe you could get 1.04 for him but I think 1.05 is probably more realistic.
Additionally they moved up from 2.03 to 1.11 and acquired a dart throw third rounder.
I would favor hill, but don’t think it’s anything to pound my chest
I've been considering offering the 4 for Hill for a while now, but figure it would be rejected before the draft. If things work out in the real deal and the 4's value increases some, I'll make that offer quickly.I don’t know, seems pretty reasonable to me
what is Hill worth in rookie pick value by himself? You’re obviously not getting 1.01 or 1.02 for him. 1.03 seems unlikely as well.
Maybe you could get 1.04 for him but I think 1.05 is probably more realistic.
Additionally they moved up from 2.03 to 1.11 and acquired a dart throw third rounder.
I would favor hill, but don’t think it’s anything to pound my chest
We all know startup player values vary greatly from their value in already established leagues so you have to take that with a grain of salt. I would imagine you’d have a pretty tough time moving hill for 1.02 in an established league right now, but I could be wrong. I’m not really pulling 1.05 from anywhere, just giving my opinion of about where his value isHe’s gone in the second round of my 3 startups this Year and was taken ahead of 1.2 in the two that include rookie picks. Hill was a top 10 receiver last year, not sure where you are pulling 1.5 from. The 3.6 has little value as we only draft 3 rounds of rookies (as you know).
As for chest pounding I save that for my Dak robbery of you from last year.
Well even a wet beaver sometimes finds a tree.We all know startup player values vary greatly from their value in already established leagues so you have to take that with a grain of salt. I would imagine you’d have a pretty tough time moving hill for 1.02 in an established league right now, but I could be wrong. I’m not really pulling 1.05 from anywhere, just giving my opinion of about where his value is
very sad trading for a middle of the road qb was the highlight of your year. I honestly forgot, that kinda thing happens when you win the league
1.2FFPC scoring (1.5 PPR for TE)
Team A receives: Hunter Henry/1.12/2019 2nd/2019 3rd
Team B receives: 1.2
I have Hunt on an IDP/PPR league and would take that for him.12 team PPR w/ 10 IDP starters
Team A got Hunt, Kareem KCC RB
Team B got Year 2018 Draft Pick 1.02;Year 2018 Draft Pick 1.10;Year 2018 Draft Pick 2.10