Rodgers I would give up an early 2 for Rodgers and early 3 for wentz. Late 2 if I really needed qb for wentz.In a 12tm 1QB PPR.
Have Dak, Rodgers, and Wentz. Trying to move Rodgers and/or Wentz to improve at WR or Draft Capital.
What are some WRs & draft picks that you all deem similar value for both?
Rodgers -
Wentz -
NoOn a team I need QB help (12 team ppr, 1 Qb) I got an offer of:
Watson, D. Samuel, Kirk, 2022 1, 2, 3 (late)
for
Hunt, Edmonds, c. Samuel, 1.04
I am Considering the offer as it helps me at QB and get a first next year from him and Deebo who I think is a solid player. What do you say?
Good job, I agree with tier breakSuper Flex 12 team 25 man rosters - 1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE 1 K 1 DEF 1 SF 2 F
Gave 2.06, 2.07, 3.07
Got 2.01
I think there is a tier break at 2.01, maybe 2.02 so happy to get into that range.
This deal all depends on your board (as you pointed out for why you did it) so it is probably a good deal for both Owners.Super Flex 12 team 25 man rosters - 1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE 1 K 1 DEF 1 SF 2 F
Gave 2.06, 2.07, 3.07
Got 2.01
I think there is a tier break at 2.01, maybe 2.02 so happy to get into that range.
one more data point on thisFFPC SF
Diontae Johnson, 3.06
For
Mike Evans
Huge trade and hard for me to be critical of either side but also hard to say which side I'd want to be on.Mega trade in FFPC. Currently 13th round of the startup draft.
Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Davante Adam's, and Aaron Rodgers
For
DK Metcalf, Chris Godwin, Michael Carter, and three future 1sts
Of the future 1sts the most likely scenario is one is non playoff and two are playoff.
Sure. Um. Sure. I've seen people do big trades during startups involving already drafted players but I've never been involved in one. Always seemed at least a little counterintuitive to me but this looks perfectly square. Depends on the rest of my team and what I'm trying to do like Meno said above.Mega trade in FFPC. Currently 13th round of the startup draft.
Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Davante Adam's, and Aaron Rodgers
For
DK Metcalf, Chris Godwin, Michael Carter, and three future 1sts
Of the future 1sts the most likely scenario is one is non playoff and two are playoff.
Guess it comes to an end a little earlier than I thought.Mixon is the only player in there I’m interested in rostering. Well Jacobs also, I suppose, but I think there’s a non-zero chance this is his last season as a full time feature back.
I’d also easily roll the dice on OBJ over Williams, although I have no interest in either unless discounted.
I almost responded to that one earlier and was going to say I prefer Jacobs over Mixon but I would have taken the OBJ side anyway. But dang.Guess it comes to an end a little earlier than I thought.
Had a feeling this was going to happen as well. And they gave Drake a decent amount of money. Jacobs arrow pointing down.Guess it comes to an end a little earlier than I thought.
I would argue between losing most of his OL and the Drake signing he's the single biggest loser in all of fantasy football since FA opened.Had a feeling this was going to happen as well. And they gave Drake a decent amount of money. Jacobs arrow pointing down.
I haven't seen startup values in a while, but it seems weird that someone would have Cook, Chubb, and Adams all on the same team. Did he make trades before the draft to move up?Mega trade in FFPC. Currently 13th round of the startup draft.
Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Davante Adam's, and Aaron Rodgers
For
DK Metcalf, Chris Godwin, Michael Carter, and three future 1sts
Of the future 1sts the most likely scenario is one is non playoff and two are playoff.
Players for me but I see the allure of the other side. With all the talk in the other threads of teams with lots of young assets selling for well over the entry fee, wondering if that picks side team may be thinking sell the team in the off-season if those picks hit early.Mega trade in FFPC. Currently 13th round of the startup draft.
Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Davante Adam's, and Aaron Rodgers
For
DK Metcalf, Chris Godwin, Michael Carter, and three future 1sts
Of the future 1sts the most likely scenario is one is non playoff and two are playoff.
I've seen current startup teams up for sale so yeah I think people are doing that. I'm not really a fan but as long as people are active and deals are square then I guess it is ok. I think it perverts the format a little. IDK.Players for me but I see the allure of the other side. With all the talk in the other threads of teams with lots of young assets selling for well over the entry fee, wondering if that picks side team may be thinking sell the team in the off-season if those picks hit early.
Crazy how big of a dive Godwin’s value took.FFPC
Chris Godwin, 2022 2
for
Hunter Henry, 1.8, 2.8, 2022 4
This is a good move for you in SF with TE premium and your picks. Situational but i could also see the argument on the other side for him too as I'm not huge on Sutton personally.jadensdad said:Superflex ppr 12 team TE Premium
gave 1.02, Hayden hurst, 3.05
got 1.04, Sutton, 2.11
i didn’t need a qb ( I have 1.01, burrow and Tua)
I will probably get najee or chase
I don't play FFPC but I don't like this trade at all. DK is a stud but who knows what is up with Russ, Godwin isn't the player he was 2 years ago & I truly believe we have seen his best season already, Carter may never be more than a depth piece, and who knows where those picks will be. I know that Cook, Chubb, Adams, and A-Rod should be worth far more than this in my leagues but again....not FFPC.Mega trade in FFPC. Currently 13th round of the startup draft.
Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb, Davante Adam's, and Aaron Rodgers
For
DK Metcalf, Chris Godwin, Michael Carter, and three future 1sts
Of the future 1sts the most likely scenario is one is non playoff and two are playoff.
They resigned Riddick too. That with Drake and losing 3/5 of the line, I want no part of that backfield. Glad I got out from Jacobs 2 weeks ago for Lamb and a top 2 protected 22 pick.I would argue between losing most of his OL and the Drake signing he's the single biggest loser in all of fantasy football since FA opened.
My God what a ripoff. You, sir, need to go and shower immediately.Lamb and a top 2 protected 22 pick
Lol. The guy needed RB help badly and had a lot of young WRs. It is .5 PPR and it is a league that hoards RBs so they can be hard to come by. Plus, he is a Raider fan but I guarantee he wouldn't give me Lamb and a 1st round pick now. I'm happy I did it early.My God what a ripoff. You, sir, need to go and shower immediately.
Seems pretty fair. I still like Moss. I’ll take that side in a vacuum, but in SF for a QB-needy team Fitz appears set up pretty well for this year.12 team .5ppr SF, not involved
R. Fitzpatrick
for
Z. Moss
My thoughts are with all these early-mid first rounders already in your pocket I personally don’t see the need to move into that tier (top 8 for me) for the 5th time when the 1.12 will still yield a solid player (maybe even Lawrence - depending on your league)Non-ppr Zealots IDP
Gave: 1.12 & 2021 1st
Got: 1.07
I may have overthought this one but I wasn't digging what will likely be at 1.12. I think any player in the top seven is worth next year's first, even if that pick ends up high. Plus, getting to use the extra player for one more year counts for something. I offered him this year's 1.12 & 2.1 as well (he didn't have a 2nd rounder) but he took the above deal.
Really, I just wanted to control the middle of this first round. Now I have picks 1, 4, 6, 7, 8, and 13. I know I'll get one of the top RBs, probably two of the top WRs, Lawrence, and then decide if I want a third WR or Pitts.
I guess I pushed a lot of chips in on this class.
Because I believe at 1.7 I will get an elite player - whereas at 1.12 it's just a "solid" player. There's a big difference between Jaylen Waddle and Terrace Marshall/Kenneth Gainwell for example.My thoughts are with all these early-mid first rounders already in your pocket I personally don’t see the need to move into that tier (top 8 for me) for the 5th time when the 1.12 will still yield a solid player (maybe even Lawrence - depending on your league)
my move with four top 8 picks already would have probably been to move the 1.12 on the clock for a future 1st (maybe +) while also keeping my own future 1st. But there are a thousand ways to run a dynasty organization.
That’s just the point. The 5th player you draft this year would literally be a depth pick on your roster. The ability to have two 2022 1st could potentially yield great draft capital on its own next year or could be combined for a top 1-3 pick and a ‘stud’ if that’s what you value the most. It takes some patience to play the long game which can be hard to do this time of year but sometimes it can yield the best value.Because I believe at 1.7 I will get an elite player - whereas at 1.12 it's just a "solid" player. There's a big difference between Jaylen Waddle and Terrace Marshall/Kenneth Gainwell for example.
IMO dynasty players, especially in big roster Zealots leagues, worry too much about acquiring depth talent.
There's still only so many starters you submit on a week-to-week basis - and until you have that figured out there's no reason to be concerned about depth. IOW I like to treat my starting lineup like its redraft and then worry about the dynasty component of my depth.
The point is, no he won't. He'll be a starter. I think you're selling the top eight players this year a bit short.That’s just the point. The 5th player you draft this year would literally be a depth pick on your roster. The ability to have two 2022 1st could potentially yield great draft capital on its own next year or could be combined for a top 1-3 pick and a ‘stud’ if that’s what you value the most. It takes some patience to play the long game which can be hard to do this time of year but sometimes it can yield the best value.
I actually agree 100% and approach my teams the same way.There's still only so many starters you submit on a week-to-week basis - and until you have that figured out there's no reason to be concerned about depth. IOW I like to treat my starting lineup like its redraft and then worry about the dynasty component of my depth.
If he’s going to be a starter you literally have only a few good skill position players currently rostered, which makes the long game an even smarter play. If all these rookies are slotted in as instant starters you might project to have an early 1st in 2022, which makes trading it away questionable...The point is, no he won't. He'll be a starter. I think you're selling the top eight players this year a bit short.
Team A then gave Gesicki, Deebo, 2.05, 2.12 and VaughnFFPC Superflex not involved
Team A gives 1.08, Hurst, Mack
Team B gives Goff, Deebo, Drake, 2.05, 2.12
I can't decide which side is killing who here. I feel like no matter what it isn't close. It is either hot garbage for the 1.08 or it is a terrible overpay. I'm torn.
I disagree. It makes it even more important to get good players when you see the chance.If he’s going to be a starter you literally have only a few good skill position players currently rostered, which makes the long game an even smarter play. If all these rookies are slotted in as instant starters you might project to have an early 1st in 2022, which makes trading it away questionable...
My take is not very high but I would say it held from last year at this time, in fact my top 8 from last March held exactly.What are the odds the top 7 continue to look like the top 7 after the draft?
I'm in Zealots, and depth is always job one to me. If I have enough depth, the starting lineup takes care of itself. I'm a grinder I guess.IMO dynasty players, especially in big roster Zealots leagues, worry too much about acquiring depth talent
Draft talent over situation because talent changes situation and perfect situation doesn't always compensate for okay talent.What are the odds the top 7 continue to look like the top 7 after the draft?
Inevitably guys go to bad spots while other guys go to good spots, or guys either go way earlier or way later than expected
Yes true, but prior to the NFL draft do we have a super clear picture of what the talent order is?Draft talent over situation because talent changes situation and perfect situation doesn't always compensate for okay talent.
Just some examples OTTOMH...Dobbins, Akers, and to a certain extent Taylor went to crowded situations - but talent won out. Jefferson went to a run first offense. Herbert was supposedly going to sit behind Tyrod (weird circumstances there I know, but he'd have won the job).
Conversely Jacobs and CEH are both good, not great, talents that went to great situations and...eh.
I don't know what you mean by "order" but we know what the pool is. And since I think the top eight guys (by talent) all have a chance to be special, that's why I want as many of that pool as possible - five of eight so far.Yes true, but prior to the NFL draft do we have a super clear picture of what the talent order is?