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****OFFICIAL DYNASTY TRADES**** (26 Viewers)

I wouldn't pay 2 1sts for him personally as I'm not that high on him.  He wasn't the work horse in college and got hurt his 1st year already in the pros.  However, I think that is what his value is at.  I wouldn't sell him for less than 2 1sts or top 3-4 pick this year but I don't have any stake in him at all.  In PPR, he is ranked as a 2nd round pick in redraft....not sure that is "depressed."  Plus, he is young and showed promise.
Any player I'm paying 2 first rounders for in dynasty better be a 1st round pick in redraft. That's my value system at least. Hell, I got 2 firsts for Hopkins, and he's likely to be a top 3 WR. Age is obviously in Gibson's favor, but we're also talking about a RB (shorter careers) and not even a "feature back" since McKissic isn't going anywhere & gets the bulk of the receptions, or in an "elite" offense (we just don't know what this offense is going to be with Fitz/Heineken). 

2x firsts is a head scratcher for me. I like Gibson a lot more than I did when he first popped - he's fun to watch.  But hey, I don't judge folks for who they value and how. If folks are selling for 2 firsts, good for them.  

 
Any player I'm paying 2 first rounders for in dynasty better be a 1st round pick in redraft. That's my value system at least. Hell, I got 2 firsts for Hopkins, and he's likely to be a top 3 WR. Age is obviously in Gibson's favor, but we're also talking about a RB (shorter careers) and not even a "feature back" since McKissic isn't going anywhere & gets the bulk of the receptions, or in an "elite" offense (we just don't know what this offense is going to be with Fitz/Heineken). 

2x firsts is a head scratcher for me. I like Gibson a lot more than I did when he first popped - he's fun to watch.  But hey, I don't judge folks for who they value and how. If folks are selling for 2 firsts, good for them.  
You aren't wrong but D-Hop isn't even a 1st rounder in a decent amount of redraft leagues and RBs are harder to come by.  I don't disagree with you but if I was light at RB and was offering like 10 and a future 1st that I expected to be later, I'd seriously consider it.  I wouldn't pay top end draft capital personally but his value is in that neighborhood for a majority of the fantasy world.

 
Pretty Big deal. 12 Team PPR

Aaron Jones/Keenan Allen

for

Brandon Aiyuk/Alexander Mattison/1.6/2.8/two 2022 2nds/two 2022 3rds

im the one who traded AJ/Keenan. Allens age played a big part for me and I’ve won the league last 2 years. Core Roster now is

Kyler/Dalvin/Hunt/AJ Dillon/Mattison/Davante Adams/CeeDee Lamb/Diontae Johnson/Brandon Aiyuk/Laviska Shenault/George Kittle with 1.6/2.3/2.8/3.5 and a 1st/3 2nds/3 3rds in 2022
This isn't terrible but feels light to me.  I feel you miss the big 5 in the 1st this year and should have got another 1st out of this deal easily.  3rds aren't worth much and Mattison is just a cuff.  I like Aiyuk and 6 plus 2 2nds but a year out so I'd say it feels like those 2 3rds should have been a future 1st to me but it isn't that bad.  

 
This isn't terrible but feels light to me.  I feel you miss the big 5 in the 1st this year and should have got another 1st out of this deal easily.  3rds aren't worth much and Mattison is just a cuff.  I like Aiyuk and 6 plus 2 2nds but a year out so I'd say it feels like those 2 3rds should have been a future 1st to me but it isn't that bad.  
I agree.  I wouldn't have made that trade as a contender because you are taking a big piece away from another title run.  I would have needed more.  This seems like a move to make if you are in a rebuild.  

 
Pretty Big deal. 12 Team PPR

Aaron Jones/Keenan Allen

for

Brandon Aiyuk/Alexander Mattison/1.6/2.8/two 2022 2nds/two 2022 3rds
I don't hate this deal but agree with others that it's a little light. I think you got decent value for AJones/Allen but maybe could have gotten a bit more.

I'm an Aiyuk fan, and he & Lance could develop into a nice tandem for the Niners. Deebo is more like a slash player, so I don't know what his ceiling is, leaving Kittle/Aiyuk as the best receiving options on the Niners.  I don't know if he'll replace Allen's value, but age-wise it's an upgrade at least.

The 1.6 & two 2022 2nds are nice already but then two 3rds makes this a really nice package for those two assets. 

I like acquiring Mattison since you're a Cook owner. It often gets overlooked that the value of a handcuff is higher to the team with the #1 guy. And in this case, Cook is not without injury concern. 

I don't think it's that far off though - if the pick was top 4 instead of 1.06 I'd like it a little more. Can you package the 1.06 with a 2nd or something to move up a spot or 2? 

Even as-is you might get a nice player there if a QB or 2 goes off the board early.  I don't hate it, but as @Gally said, this would be a better deal for a rebuilding team. It does give you some valuable draft equity to make more deals though, so I see some opportunity to improve this deal using the pieces you got back. 

 
12 team SF ppr 

Gave up AJ Brown Zach Wilson and my teams 22 1st

Got Patrick Mahomes

I should be a contender and while I hate giving up 1st round future picks it fixes qb for me and gives me a lot of options and since we only start 10 the Brown downgrade will be ETN or Landry to start the year still have T Hill, J Jefferson and A Cooper for WR and now qb 2 is either carr or Fitz instead of one of them having to be qb1.

 
12 team SF ppr 

Gave up AJ Brown Zach Wilson and my teams 22 1st

Got Patrick Mahomes

I should be a contender and while I hate giving up 1st round future picks it fixes qb for me and gives me a lot of options and since we only start 10 the Brown downgrade will be ETN or Landry to start the year still have T Hill, J Jefferson and A Cooper for WR and now qb 2 is either carr or Fitz instead of one of them having to be qb1.
This feels like a fair price to pay for Mahomes, and probably close to the minimum most of his owners would consider to move him.

 
12 team SF ppr 

Gave up AJ Brown Zach Wilson and my teams 22 1st

Got Patrick Mahomes

I should be a contender and while I hate giving up 1st round future picks it fixes qb for me and gives me a lot of options and since we only start 10 the Brown downgrade will be ETN or Landry to start the year still have T Hill, J Jefferson and A Cooper for WR and now qb 2 is either carr or Fitz instead of one of them having to be qb1.
As someone who just sold Mahomes for Higgins, Zach Wilson, CEH & 2x 1sts (2022, 2023), I'd say you got a great deal. I certainly wouldn't have accepted your offer as I think it's on the low-end of what someone can get for PM in a SF, so nice pull! 

 
In my mind it's really only off of your deal by the 2023 1st.  Which needs to be time-discounted anyway.  Higgins/CEH = AJB, or close enough.
True, depending how one feels about the players involved. But yeah - it's not a bad deal for the team giving up Mahomes, but I think it's a much better deal for the team getting Mahomes. 

ETA: Keep in mind, there's also an emotional cost to dealing away Mahomes.  No matter what I might get in return for him, that one hurt. :cry:  

 
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12tm SF

2.07 

FOR

Antonio Brown, 22 2nd
Gimmie AB & the 22 2nd for a "ready to win now" team

AB seems like a bargain in redraft right now - I think he's closer in production to Mike Evans & Godwin than people are estimating. When he was back in football shape he put up some big numbers in a hurry. 

It's not a big investment for 2021 production, Obviously at 33 he's not gonna have a long-term value. 

But this year he should provide more production than players I've seen going at 2.07

 
Was offered this and pounced. 12 team PPR

Josh Jacobs/2022 1st/2022 3rd ( very high probability of a lottery team so Rd1 should be 1-6 and RD3 should be 25-30 ) for Kareem Hunt and 1.12

______

Same owner sent me this and I accepted. Kyler is my QB so Wentz was useless to me. 
 

I traded Wentz/2.4/Watkins for Laviska Shenault/Jared Goff/2022 2nd ( 13-18 range )

 
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12 Team SF, PPR

Team A got WR LaViska Shenault

TEAM B got WR TY Hilton, 2023 1st (should be early to mid)
I have Shenault and high hopes for him but I think I'd rather have an early/mid '23 1st. I could see TY outscoring him this year too, if Wentz shapes up, so team B might be the better side whether it's contending or rebuilding. 

 
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12 Team SF, PPR

Team A got WR LaViska Shenault

TEAM B got WR TY Hilton, 2023 1st (should be early to mid)
Seems like a fair deal - I love Laviska's talent, but he's a gamble as I'm not sure what he is in that offense.

If it's an early '23 pick, it could be a really solid player & TY could be decent enough to flex this year if things break right. 

I could see a reason to taking either side here, but gimme the pick. 

 
12 team PPR, all TD's 6 points, start 2-4 RB, 2-4 WR, 1-2 TE

Team A Saquon Barkley and Tyler Lockett

Team B got David Montgomery and AJ Brown

Same league

Team A got Patrick Mahomes, Ryan Tannehill, Parris Campbell, Darren Waller, Rams D

Team B got Justin Herbert, Gus Edwards, DK Metcalf, Anthony Firkser, 4.6

 
Seems like a fair deal - I love Laviska's talent, but he's a gamble as I'm not sure what he is in that offense.

If it's an early '23 pick, it could be a really solid player & TY could be decent enough to flex this year if things break right. 

I could see a reason to taking either side here, but gimme the pick. 
Same take... some overlap between Shenault and ETN and still have Chark/Jones in the mix.   Laviska could be very good but I'll take the potential early first. 

 
I'm gonna need to take some deep breaths on this one. One of the bigger deals I've made in forever. I took the title in year 1 of this last year but did it in spite of being weak at TE. I still have some faith in Higbee but I felt like I needed to do this one. SF 1sts are usually pretty big and IMO undervalued by calcs. Anyway I'm probably giving value here but while everyone is caught up on the SF part, remember this is TE premium as well.

FFPC SF

I gave Russell Wilson, Juju, Higbee
I got Waller, 2022 1st

 
12 team PPR - had no horse in this race but found it interesting 

Team A gets Josh Jacobs/Brandon Aiyuk

Team B gets Joe Mixon/Michael Gallup/2022 2nd

personally like Mixon more then Jacobs but Aiyuk more then Gallup. The 2nd closes the gap but by how much? 

 
I'm gonna need to take some deep breaths on this one. One of the bigger deals I've made in forever. I took the title in year 1 of this last year but did it in spite of being weak at TE. I still have some faith in Higbee but I felt like I needed to do this one. SF 1sts are usually pretty big and IMO undervalued by calcs. Anyway I'm probably giving value here but while everyone is caught up on the SF part, remember this is TE premium as well.

FFPC SF

I gave Russell Wilson, Juju, Higbee
I got Waller, 2022 1st
I see it. I just can't comment because it's SF and I'll only know what calcs tell me rather than experience. Hope it works out for you. I'd say you gave half too much a Juju, if that makes sense, but I'm not sanguine about his chances, so maybe he's just dead weight to you, too. 

 
12 team PPR - had no horse in this race but found it interesting 

Team A gets Josh Jacobs/Brandon Aiyuk

Team B gets Joe Mixon/Michael Gallup/2022 2nd

personally like Mixon more then Jacobs but Aiyuk more then Gallup. The 2nd closes the gap but by how much? 
Think I like the Mixon/Gallup side. Seems very fair.

 
I gave Russell Wilson, Juju, Higbee
I got Waller, 2022 1st
I’m not a fan of giving up a top 6-8 dynasty QB and not get a QB in return. 

Unless you’ve got a crystal ball and can guarantee this is a top-3 2022 1st, I would say you got absolutely fleeced, and even then it will likely take years to recoup the value you lost by trading away Wilson.

If this is a 5 PPR TE premium league, i rescind my comment. 

 
FFPC SF

I gave Russell Wilson, Juju, Higbee
I got Waller, 2022 1st
for TE premium I get it, but you did pay a lot for Waller. Aging assets, to be sure, but a lot of this comes down to

1. how much better Waller will be than Higbee

and

2. how early that 1st is.

It feels like a little bit of an over-pay even in TE-P, but I’m not against doing that if Waller is your guy.

Any guess as to where that pick will be? 

 
12 team PPR - had no horse in this race but found it interesting 

Team A gets Josh Jacobs/Brandon Aiyuk

Team B gets Joe Mixon/Michael Gallup/2022 2nd

personally like Mixon more then Jacobs but Aiyuk more then Gallup. The 2nd closes the gap but by how much? 
Fair deal. I’d probably rather have Mixon side, as he’s currently the best player in this deal. 

But the Bengals have to improve their OL play form that to be worthwhile, and Aiyuk is a potential future star WR who I see as a bit undervalued. 

 
I'm gonna need to take some deep breaths on this one. One of the bigger deals I've made in forever. I took the title in year 1 of this last year but did it in spite of being weak at TE. I still have some faith in Higbee but I felt like I needed to do this one. SF 1sts are usually pretty big and IMO undervalued by calcs. Anyway I'm probably giving value here but while everyone is caught up on the SF part, remember this is TE premium as well.

FFPC SF

I gave Russell Wilson, Juju, Higbee
I got Waller, 2022 1st
It depends on who else you have at QB and who are the two extra players you get to keep.

 
I'm gonna need to take some deep breaths on this one. One of the bigger deals I've made in forever. I took the title in year 1 of this last year but did it in spite of being weak at TE. I still have some faith in Higbee but I felt like I needed to do this one. SF 1sts are usually pretty big and IMO undervalued by calcs. Anyway I'm probably giving value here but while everyone is caught up on the SF part, remember this is TE premium as well.

FFPC SF

I gave Russell Wilson, Juju, Higbee
I got Waller, 2022 1st
Who are your QBs after this deal?

 
Who are your QBs after this deal?
K Murray, Winston/Hill and there are a handful of streamers available. I'm not worried about not getting a QB back in this deal. I gotta tell you people are obsessive with QBs in this format. It isn't as important as they think (it *is* important tho). I have more faith in Winston than a lot but I feel that making this TE deal makes my team very tough to beat (coming off the ship in year 1). Henry, A Jones at RB with Nuk, Jefferson, Claypool, Pittman, C Davis, N Collins, J Robinson, Ebron, H Bryant. What I really need is a better 3rd RB, but Henry and Jones probably have one more really good year in the sun left in them. 

It depends on who else you have at QB and who are the two extra players you get to keep.
well nothing too special there ATM but two spots *is* a big deal and when week 1 rolls around this will be a big deal. Maybe I find that 3rd RB on the wire, or someone else that is going to skyrocket in value, and I'll have room for them. That is harder to accomplish in FFPC SF than people think. 

for TE premium I get it, but you did pay a lot for Waller. Aging assets, to be sure, but a lot of this comes down to

1. how much better Waller will be than Higbee

and

2. how early that 1st is.

It feels like a little bit of an over-pay even in TE-P, but I’m not against doing that if Waller is your guy.

Any guess as to where that pick will be? 
I think the gap between Waller and Higbee could end up being really big, and it is the biggest swing in this deal that will contribute to where that 1st goes. If the gap is small then I would call that 1st middle of the road. If the gap is bigger as I think it will be, I think this pick is an early one. Not a lock but TBH I don't like his team and don't think it is a particularly strong owner but he has some pieces. Like the ones I just shipped him. But this is my new TE1 vs his new TE1. I don't think my drop from Wilson to Winston is going to be significant in the boxscore. If it is even a drop. I hate giving up Wilson but I feel my team is better now. 

And that 1st is actually kind of sweet IMO. 

 
I see it. I just can't comment because it's SF and I'll only know what calcs tell me rather than experience. Hope it works out for you. I'd say you gave half too much a Juju, if that makes sense, but I'm not sanguine about his chances, so maybe he's just dead weight to you, too. 
Yeah that's about where I'm at with it. And I have Claypool and other main WR options. I don't really need Juju but if I can pull a 1st on top of Waller then I am in. I feel like this is a top3 TE stud in TE premium for a top10 QB as close to 1 for 1. Then Higbee and Juju for a SF 1st seems solid to me. I saw two calcs that had it in my favor slightly and a couple that went the other way a little heavier. *shrugs*

 
And that 1st is actually kind of sweet IMO. 
Yeah, if this breaks right I really like it for you.

Higbee is a guy I think may have a very nice low-end TE1 season. But that’s IF he can come out and play to his potential. Not a lock, but a guy I'm targeting later if I miss the top 4. 

Waller is virtually a lock for top 4 TE performance, and in TE-P you can set your watch by his consistency of production.

 
it will likely take years to recoup the value you lost by trading away Wilson.
How many years will it take to find another Waller? He is a bigger difference maker at his position than Wilson is at his. Even in SF. This is 1.5 PPR for TEs. It was an expensive deal no doubt but years to recoup? Recoup what? I gained a top3 TE and am probably holding flat for my QB2 production. I don't have that set it and forget it QB pillar for my QB2 but so what? I don't want to hold 4 TEs I want Waller +1 if I can help it. Set *that* and forget about it. Then I can maybe actually hold a legit 3rd QB in this short roster format. Anyway gaining value in FFPC is like breathing. Recouping happens so freaking fast. 

 
As TE2 overall last year in this format, Waller averaged 21.0 pts per game. That was a 7 PPG advantage over the TE4*, Mark Andrews. It was a 9 PPG advantage over TE12. Wilson doesn't hold that kind of positional advantage.

*It was a 3 PPG advantage over Kittle but Kittle only played 8 games, so most of the time Waller had a 7 PPG advantage over the next best at the position. 

 
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He is a bigger difference maker at his position than Wilson is at his. Even in SF. This is 1.5 PPR for TEs.
Oooooof, 1.5 PPR is barely any premium at all, and nowhere near enough for me to give up such a high end QB, unless this scoring format has completely nerfed QBs. 

I just looked up the scoring in my 1.5 TE premium league and Wilson out scored Waller by about 5 points per game. 1) I firmly believe that was Waller’s career-best season. 2) That represents about the average of what you’ll get out of Wilson for the next 5-7 years. 3) I don’t see Winston or Hill making it to the QB1 ranks in that offensive system. 

So you lose the ability to start your 3rd QB during Wilson and Murray’s bye weeks, and are hoping to score a waiver wire wonder  to solve the problem.  All for a TE who has to have a LOT of things go awry in order for him to have a season that comes close to approaching what he did last year.

This feels like the epitome of chasing last season’s performance, but I hope it works out for you. None of us -know- what will happen, but this one isn’t an outcome that I would bet on. 

 
Oooooof, 1.5 PPR is barely any premium at all, and nowhere near enough for me to give up such a high end QB, unless this scoring format has completely nerfed QBs. 

I just looked up the scoring in my 1.5 TE premium league and Wilson out scored Waller by about 5 points per game. 1) I firmly believe that was Waller’s career-best season. 2) That represents about the average of what you’ll get out of Wilson for the next 5-7 years. 3) I don’t see Winston or Hill making it to the QB1 ranks in that offensive system. 

So you lose the ability to start your 3rd QB during Wilson and Murray’s bye weeks, and are hoping to score a waiver wire wonder  to solve the problem.  All for a TE who has to have a LOT of things go awry in order for him to have a season that comes close to approaching what he did last year.

This feels like the epitome of chasing last season’s performance, but I hope it works out for you. None of us -know- what will happen, but this one isn’t an outcome that I would bet on. 
Pretty much agree with this…will add two things…one, if Murray gets hurt the season is pretty much over, lot of risk in that…two, while Waller is a stud he will also be 29 in September so that makes me far more hesitant about this type of deal…I understand the thought process in this move (I am a big fan of having an every week stud at TE) but it feels like it is based more on looking at the upside of the deal as opposed to how much potential downside/exposure this deal has.

 
Was offered this and pounced. 12 team PPR

Josh Jacobs/2022 1st/2022 3rd ( very high probability of a lottery team so Rd1 should be 1-6 and RD3 should be 25-30 ) for Kareem Hunt and 1.12

______

Same owner sent me this and I accepted. Kyler is my QB so Wentz was useless to me. 
 

I traded Wentz/2.4/Watkins for Laviska Shenault/Jared Goff/2022 2nd ( 13-18 range )
I like both of these moves for you. The 1st one I would have smash accepted too.  The 2nd one seems pretty fair if you believe in Wentz and the pick is high enough.  I know the Shenault hype is through the roof right now but I'm not as high as some so I might have leaned the other way but it is close in the 2nd one.

 
12 Team  - PPR - Dynasty

Team A gets: CeeDee Lamb

Team B gets: Tee Higgins, Juju, 1.09, 1.12

He really wanted CeeDee I guess.
This is one of those trades that looks lopsided right now.  But in 3 or 4 years, the Lamb owner may feel pretty good about it.

...Or be trying to trade Lamb to rebuild.

Very high risk.

 
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12 Team  - PPR - Dynasty

Team A gets: CeeDee Lamb

Team B gets: Tee Higgins, Juju, 1.09, 1.12

He really wanted CeeDee I guess.
I think Higgins or Juju should have not been included but Lamb for late 1sts and a WR that isn't even the 1 on their own teams or very crowded at the very least isn't really that bad.  It is an overpay but I feel they got someone elite and didn't give up any elite pieces.

 
I think when people get all wrapped up in CeeDee hype they forget that all of his production came out of the slot last year. I want to see what the results are when they're pressing him with man coverage on the outside before he commands Higgins, Juju, and two later firsts. I dunno about that one. I think Higgins, Juju, and one late first should be enough.

 
I think when people get all wrapped up in CeeDee hype they forget that all of his production came out of the slot last year. I want to see what the results are when they're pressing him with man coverage on the outside before he commands Higgins, Juju, and two later firsts. I dunno about that one. I think Higgins, Juju, and one late first should be enough.
I agree that 1 of those pieces is too much.  I'd be ok with Juju and 2 1sts or even Higgins and 2 1sts would be a bit high for my liking but can get behind it.  This was too much even though I am high on Lamb.

 
Gave Julio for Lockett and two future 3rds in 0.5 PPR.

Will note this is 2QB/2TE so the picks are *slightly* more valuable, but that wasn’t really the motivation. As I see it there are 4 key points that could potentially influence how you feel about this deal:

1) I have AJB and Julio is my WR3. Should that even be part of the discussion?

2) “Consistency” vs “boom/bust” and whether that even applies with Julio changing teams.

3) Situation: QB/OC, whether both players are really WR2 for their respective teams and if both offensives will really be “run-first?”

4) Age (~3.5 years is not a ton but also not negligible)

 
12 Team  - PPR - Dynasty

Team A gets: CeeDee Lamb

Team B gets: Tee Higgins, Juju, 1.09, 1.12

He really wanted CeeDee I guess.
Lamb and not close.

Higgins is a nice player, but the Bengals taking Chase says all you need to know. Juju is on the brink of roster clogger. The picks are decent and would be massive in Superflex, but this isn't SF. The pick 1.09 is what, Rashod Bateman? 1.12 is what, Rondale Moore?

Attach names to picks and ask yourself if you'd prefer Ceedee and three roster spots to Higgins, Juju, Bateman and Rondale Moore.

 
Gave Julio for Lockett and two future 3rds in 0.5 PPR.

Will note this is 2QB/2TE so the picks are *slightly* more valuable, but that wasn’t really the motivation. As I see it there are 4 key points that could potentially influence how you feel about this deal:

1) I have AJB and Julio is my WR3. Should that even be part of the discussion?

2) “Consistency” vs “boom/bust” and whether that even applies with Julio changing teams.

3) Situation: QB/OC, whether both players are really WR2 for their respective teams and if both offensives will really be “run-first?”

4) Age (~3.5 years is not a ton but also not negligible)
Julio

 
Maybe not the right place, but it is a dynasty trade and just thought it'd spice things up a bit in here.

Dynasty startup trade. Superflex PPR

Guy offered me 13.11, 14.02, and a 2022 1st (rookie pick) for my 11.12 and 12.01.

He picks right before me so he wanted 4 picks in a row. 11.11, 11.12, 12.01, and 12.02.

I got 4 picks in a row at the end of round 13/beginning of 14 now, plus a 2022 1st in the rookie draft.

I will say it's a free league, just for fun, and my two other dynasty teams are win now so I've been playing this one as more of a long term project just for the heck of it.

 

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