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Is Burrow really going to give you elite production though? He's way behind KC, BUF, & PHI QBs. And with no rushing would presumably be in that middling QB1 group. I would take my chances finding another Burrow or a Burrow-lite than trying to find another Saquon. The latter will always be expensive.
I'll bet Dalvin still outscores that trio of longshots this year, and career going forward.
In 6 pts per TD passing league last year in PPG
4 pt per TD, slightly skewed from standard in our league:
He very well could, but if any of the 3 have even a half of a breakout year, they're probably worth more than him at this time next year. That's just the way of the aging RB. It's roster dependent also, obviously. But is Cook any different than the RB version of Hopkins right now? Both teamless cap casualties that showed they still clearly have something left in the tank, albeit probably only 1-2 real useful FF seasons left. Think I'd be lucky to get a 3rd for Hopkins in any of the leagues I own him in right now.
Nice. Especially if you’re Win Now
Too steep for me but I am not high on Stroud. Maybe if “my guy” was there would it look better to me.
I also added Bijan, Gibbs, Young, Addison and Flowers today. Basically tanked last season to secure Bijan, and sold what good players I had for 23’ and 24’ capital. I still have two 24’ 1sts.
Would not give a first for Hopkins if I got to choose what team he played on.
I’ll take the picks.
and then:
Totally dependent on what position that pick ends up. #1? Sure, I'll wait two years. #2, seems good. #3 .. #4 .. I suppose. #5, #6, #7 ... getting sketchy. #10, #11, #12?
I know zero about the 2025 class, but give me the pick.
I own Mahomes as well and would need more to move him.
Gimme Lawrence and the picks
1QB and 4 pt TDs, TLaw and picks are a no brainer for me.
I would have held onto Dobbins and taken the multiple firsts then. Dobbins value seems likely to increase this year.
When I first glanced at this I said to myself AJ Brown easy (but fair). But if you're rebuilding I'm all for it, especially if one looks early. No reason to let a stud that isn't helping you get older on your roster. Liquidate.
Yeah that would get Mahomes from me in 1QB. No doubt.
You win that
Interesting that you think that is a win. That is like saying you will trade pick 43 straight up for a 2024 late 1st round pick in a startup draft.
Yeah I couldn’t pass it up
For me I think I get nearly identical production out of Gesicki this year as Hockenson. Within a small enough range that a 1st makes it a slam dunk for me. I don't agree with either player's ADP in either redraft or dynasty. I do like Hockenson but also think now *might* be a good sell high window. I think Addison starts dominating non-Jefferson targets by the end of the year. Granted, TEs are measured by a different stick in any format, and especially FFPC, and therefore Hockenson should still be productive. But I would guess both TEs finish around TE9-14.
I agree. And all it takes is a tad of bad luck and that “late” first turns into an early first. Then it’s a slam dunk.
Yeah and in this case I would call them a playoff team but not anything that looks like a runaway. My team actually happens to be much stronger IMO, even though I obviously acknowledge that's a loaded statement. It truly could come down to his Hockenson vs my Gesicki for the ship and the draft pick spot(s). All in all I like the rest of my roster much better but this trade could definitely swing with a lot of weight at the end of the year. A 1st mitigates the downside (quite a bit) to where it is almost but not quite breaking even (if Hockenson produces well but Gesicki doesn't). But there is an upside where I crush this trade and it isn't that far fetched.
It seems tough to make a statement like that.
if you say so
Well, the history of the two players says so.
Also, the guy willing to add a first round pick to Geisecke to get Hock also says so - and most expert rankings and ADP results....but snark works for you I guess.
I just don't think it's that tough (to make a statement like mine) really. I explained my reasoning. Others liked the deal. It's fine to disagree. Did I run over your cat or something? I don't get your attitude.
In this hobby I like to aim for where I think the landscape is headed, not where it's been. Obviously their record to this point tells one story. I'm arguing that there is a market inaccuracy with both of these players. Yes I could be wrong. I'm fine with that.
I didn't comment on the deal - I commented on something you said in order to further discussion and you responded like a child. I won't muck up the thread further and move on though.
