*** Official *** FBG's Goal Line Blitz Discussion Thread (2 Viewers)

[Drifter]

Let's not get real greedy gentlemen. I took an offer with the Detroit FBGs that wasn't hugely lucrative either, but I wanted to join a winner. Let's be team players here.

We gotta be realistic here. If we want to play as a team it will be a work in progress unless guys are willing to put in coin. I have level 5 and 6 defensive players that are going to ride the pine so level 2 FBGs can start.I will buy a second team for serious competition (if allowed to have two).

I'm in the process of buying some flex points, so my SS will be able to lay some mofo's out by our next game. too bad I already signed that crappy contract!

Let me know, I can readjust contracts for players that level up after.

Really? Larry - bump up Nagurski. I pushed him up to Level 4.

 

[Master of Past and Present]

you all are making way too many CBs...

I started making mine when the one team had an opening but I clicked to the last page too late to see Idiot Boxer made one or else I would have chosen something else.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Someone just offered my CB level 4 a starting spot when they have 2 CBs level 6 (cpu). Is a person lvl 4 better than a cpu level 6 or is this just some sort of ploy to sign me as a 3rd CB?

slow up, I'll sign you... lolwhat's the name?

Raistlin Majere

you'll start for the Free for All.I'm gonna use the high-rated CPU guys to trade for other, higher rated, CPU guys at other positions...

So coach, I still don't get what would be best for training intensity so if you have an idea, please advise.

for now do the lowest level so you keep your stamina up. We are very deep at CB, but I've decided that with your speed I'd like you to give returning kicks and punts a shot. Be our Devin Hester...

 

[larry_boy_44]

Let's not get real greedy gentlemen. I took an offer with the Detroit FBGs that wasn't hugely lucrative either, but I wanted to join a winner. Let's be team players here.

We gotta be realistic here. If we want to play as a team it will be a work in progress unless guys are willing to put in coin. I have level 5 and 6 defensive players that are going to ride the pine so level 2 FBGs can start.I will buy a second team for serious competition (if allowed to have two).

I'm in the process of buying some flex points, so my SS will be able to lay some mofo's out by our next game. too bad I already signed that crappy contract!

Let me know, I can readjust contracts for players that level up after.

Really? Larry - bump up Nagurski. I pushed him up to Level 4.

I already offered you a new contract a while ago... you need to accept it (let me know if you didn't get it... I might have mis-clicked somewhere)

 

[Master of Past and Present]

Someone just offered my CB level 4 a starting spot when they have 2 CBs level 6 (cpu). Is a person lvl 4 better than a cpu level 6 or is this just some sort of ploy to sign me as a 3rd CB?

slow up, I'll sign you... lolwhat's the name?

Raistlin Majere

you'll start for the Free for All.I'm gonna use the high-rated CPU guys to trade for other, higher rated, CPU guys at other positions...

So coach, I still don't get what would be best for training intensity so if you have an idea, please advise.

for now do the lowest level so you keep your stamina up. We are very deep at CB, but I've decided that with your speed I'd like you to give returning kicks and punts a shot. Be our Devin Hester...

Cool cause I had returning in mind when I made him. Hopefully I didn't screw it up.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Someone just offered my CB level 4 a starting spot when they have 2 CBs level 6 (cpu). Is a person lvl 4 better than a cpu level 6 or is this just some sort of ploy to sign me as a 3rd CB?

slow up, I'll sign you... lolwhat's the name?

Raistlin Majere

you'll start for the Free for All.I'm gonna use the high-rated CPU guys to trade for other, higher rated, CPU guys at other positions...

So coach, I still don't get what would be best for training intensity so if you have an idea, please advise.

for now do the lowest level so you keep your stamina up. We are very deep at CB, but I've decided that with your speed I'd like you to give returning kicks and punts a shot. Be our Devin Hester...

Cool cause I had returning in mind when I made him. Hopefully I didn't screw it up.

The only thing you might wanna do is make your carry a little better so you don't fumble, but its already pretty decent...make sure to train on lower levels (so stamina is + a lot) so you can play more, though... Starting CB and kick/punt returner is a lot of playing time...

 

[phthalatemagic]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.

Paul Warfield.

He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

 

[larry_boy_44]

need a name for an offensive lineman... thinking LT...

any suggestions?? (I got points and we could use one...)

 

[larry_boy_44]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

 

[Dope]

Dope Hacksaw has agreed to terms with the Seattle Free For All.

He'd like to thank the owner for the wining and dining.

I'm gonna buy me some stuff.

 

[Drifter]

need a name for an offensive lineman... thinking LT...any suggestions?? (I got points and we could use one...)

Wally Brickerson

 

[Dope]

need a name for an offensive lineman... thinking LT...any suggestions?? (I got points and we could use one...)

I. Ron KertinThe I stands for Ignatius

 

[phthalatemagic]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

Did I mention he is 6'4"?Thanks for the offer. I'll probably accept, but I want to see what's out there. You going to keep me as a starter?

 

[larry_boy_44]

if the guys on the Free for All are curious, these are the 3 guys I'm trying to trade for:

QB Corbin Aguilar (6 stars)

OT Zachariah Clayton (6 star)

LB Trent Barth (7 star)

add that to the rest of the core we have, and we're gonna be awesome...

Like I said, I have a bunch of FA offers out there, too...

 

[larry_boy_44]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

Did I mention he is 6'4"?Thanks for the offer. I'll probably accept, but I want to see what's out there. You going to keep me as a starter?

yeah, you'd start... I probably have a level 6 QB coming (I think he's the highest rated QB on the planet right now)

 

[Maik Jeaunz]

Let's not get real greedy gentlemen. I took an offer with the Detroit FBGs that wasn't hugely lucrative either, but I wanted to join a winner. Let's be team players here.

We gotta be realistic here. If we want to play as a team it will be a work in progress unless guys are willing to put in coin. I have level 5 and 6 defensive players that are going to ride the pine so level 2 FBGs can start.I will buy a second team for serious competition (if allowed to have two).

I'm in the process of buying some flex points, so my SS will be able to lay some mofo's out by our next game. too bad I already signed that crappy contract!

Let me know, I can readjust contracts for players that level up after.

I'm level 4 now, with mad tackling skills.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

Did I mention he is 6'4"?Thanks for the offer. I'll probably accept, but I want to see what's out there. You going to keep me as a starter?

yeah, you'd start... I probably have a level 6 QB coming (I think he's the highest rated QB on the planet right now)

This could be awesome. What sort of offense you plan on having?

 

[BigJohn]

Yeah, so I'm a level 2 LB. I'm assuming the guys that already have level 4 and 5 guys are shelling out $ to upgrade?

 

[UOFI_316]

Larry boy - What positions do you need??? I will be making my player shortly.

 

[Master of Past and Present]

Someone just offered my CB level 4 a starting spot when they have 2 CBs level 6 (cpu). Is a person lvl 4 better than a cpu level 6 or is this just some sort of ploy to sign me as a 3rd CB?

slow up, I'll sign you... lolwhat's the name?

Raistlin Majere

you'll start for the Free for All.I'm gonna use the high-rated CPU guys to trade for other, higher rated, CPU guys at other positions...

So coach, I still don't get what would be best for training intensity so if you have an idea, please advise.

for now do the lowest level so you keep your stamina up. We are very deep at CB, but I've decided that with your speed I'd like you to give returning kicks and punts a shot. Be our Devin Hester...

Cool cause I had returning in mind when I made him. Hopefully I didn't screw it up.

The only thing you might wanna do is make your carry a little better so you don't fumble, but its already pretty decent...make sure to train on lower levels (so stamina is + a lot) so you can play more, though... Starting CB and kick/punt returner is a lot of playing time...

What about this?Training Intensity: Relaxed ($40/day, +15 en.)Training Focus: Carrying (+.43/day)

 

[larry_boy_44]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

Did I mention he is 6'4"?Thanks for the offer. I'll probably accept, but I want to see what's out there. You going to keep me as a starter?

yeah, you'd start... I probably have a level 6 QB coming (I think he's the highest rated QB on the planet right now)

This could be awesome. What sort of offense you plan on having?

power running up the middle to free up our WRs on the outside. That's as deep as I'm seeing the ability to make lolBut we need a guy who isn't just a speedster and is gonna catch most everything thrown to him on the outside. You sound like a perfect fit for what we're gonna do.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Yeah, so I'm a level 2 LB. I'm assuming the guys that already have level 4 and 5 guys are shelling out $ to upgrade?

you should be able to get to level 4 if you only create 1 player to start off...

 

[The Duff Man]

Yeah, so I'm a level 2 LB. I'm assuming the guys that already have level 4 and 5 guys are shelling out $ to upgrade?

you should be able to get to level 4 if you only create 1 player to start off...

LBs cost 200 so you can only get to level 2 to start. RBs and QBs can't even level up without $

 

[BigJohn]

Yeah, so I'm a level 2 LB. I'm assuming the guys that already have level 4 and 5 guys are shelling out $ to upgrade?

you should be able to get to level 4 if you only create 1 player to start off...

Well, LB costs $200, then $200 to upgrade. That's my initial allotment. I have 2 referrals, but it says "pending activity".

 

[larry_boy_44]

Larry boy - What positions do you need??? I will be making my player shortly.

SS could be useful, especially if you only create 1 guy and he's level 4...TE and LB could use upgrades, too... and would be options...otherwise I can't promise the starting gig, but you would definately get playing time (and probably start next year). The only places I definately have someone is I have a RB, WR, T, G, DT, and CB... so other than RB no spot is 100% taken...

 

[larry_boy_44]

Someone just offered my CB level 4 a starting spot when they have 2 CBs level 6 (cpu). Is a person lvl 4 better than a cpu level 6 or is this just some sort of ploy to sign me as a 3rd CB?

slow up, I'll sign you... lolwhat's the name?

Raistlin Majere

you'll start for the Free for All.I'm gonna use the high-rated CPU guys to trade for other, higher rated, CPU guys at other positions...

So coach, I still don't get what would be best for training intensity so if you have an idea, please advise.

for now do the lowest level so you keep your stamina up. We are very deep at CB, but I've decided that with your speed I'd like you to give returning kicks and punts a shot. Be our Devin Hester...

Cool cause I had returning in mind when I made him. Hopefully I didn't screw it up.

The only thing you might wanna do is make your carry a little better so you don't fumble, but its already pretty decent...make sure to train on lower levels (so stamina is + a lot) so you can play more, though... Starting CB and kick/punt returner is a lot of playing time...

What about this?Training Intensity: Relaxed ($40/day, +15 en.)Training Focus: Carrying (+.43/day)

perfect... do that for a couple days and get carry up some, then maybe tackling or something (whatever you think it best)

 

[The Duff Man]

I started a strategy discussion in the Detroit Footballguy Forum for our first matchup. If you are on the team pop in and let me know your thoughts.

 

[larry_boy_44]

Yeah, so I'm a level 2 LB. I'm assuming the guys that already have level 4 and 5 guys are shelling out $ to upgrade?

you should be able to get to level 4 if you only create 1 player to start off...

LBs cost 200 so you can only get to level 2 to start. RBs and QBs can't even level up without $

oh... maybe I was wrong and couldn't level up that far 'til I gave them $$..

 

[UOFI_316]

Larry boy - What positions do you need??? I will be making my player shortly.

SS could be useful, especially if you only create 1 guy and he's level 4...TE and LB could use upgrades, too... and would be options...otherwise I can't promise the starting gig, but you would definately get playing time (and probably start next year). The only places I definately have someone is I have a RB, WR, T, G, DT, and CB... so other than RB no spot is 100% taken...

I was thinking TE so I will go that route.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

Did I mention he is 6'4"?Thanks for the offer. I'll probably accept, but I want to see what's out there. You going to keep me as a starter?

yeah, you'd start... I probably have a level 6 QB coming (I think he's the highest rated QB on the planet right now)

This could be awesome. What sort of offense you plan on having?

power running up the middle to free up our WRs on the outside. That's as deep as I'm seeing the ability to make lolBut we need a guy who isn't just a speedster and is gonna catch most everything thrown to him on the outside. You sound like a perfect fit for what we're gonna do.

Ehh screw the other offers. Paul is catching a flight to Milwaukee right now to shop for a house. I hope we win it all this year.

 

[BigJohn]

Yeah, so I'm a level 2 LB. I'm assuming the guys that already have level 4 and 5 guys are shelling out $ to upgrade?

you should be able to get to level 4 if you only create 1 player to start off...

LBs cost 200 so you can only get to level 2 to start. RBs and QBs can't even level up without $

oh... maybe I was wrong and couldn't level up that far 'til I gave them $$..

Well, if you need a LB....John Hill.

 

[larry_boy_44]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

Did I mention he is 6'4"?Thanks for the offer. I'll probably accept, but I want to see what's out there. You going to keep me as a starter?

yeah, you'd start... I probably have a level 6 QB coming (I think he's the highest rated QB on the planet right now)

This could be awesome. What sort of offense you plan on having?

power running up the middle to free up our WRs on the outside. That's as deep as I'm seeing the ability to make lolBut we need a guy who isn't just a speedster and is gonna catch most everything thrown to him on the outside. You sound like a perfect fit for what we're gonna do.

Ehh screw the other offers. Paul is catching a flight to Milwaukee right now to shop for a house. I hope we win it all this year.

welcome to the team, you are gonna like it here.

 

[Master of Past and Present]

Someone just offered my CB level 4 a starting spot when they have 2 CBs level 6 (cpu). Is a person lvl 4 better than a cpu level 6 or is this just some sort of ploy to sign me as a 3rd CB?

slow up, I'll sign you... lolwhat's the name?

Raistlin Majere

you'll start for the Free for All.I'm gonna use the high-rated CPU guys to trade for other, higher rated, CPU guys at other positions...

So coach, I still don't get what would be best for training intensity so if you have an idea, please advise.

for now do the lowest level so you keep your stamina up. We are very deep at CB, but I've decided that with your speed I'd like you to give returning kicks and punts a shot. Be our Devin Hester...

Cool cause I had returning in mind when I made him. Hopefully I didn't screw it up.

The only thing you might wanna do is make your carry a little better so you don't fumble, but its already pretty decent...make sure to train on lower levels (so stamina is + a lot) so you can play more, though... Starting CB and kick/punt returner is a lot of playing time...

What about this?Training Intensity: Relaxed ($40/day, +15 en.)Training Focus: Carrying (+.43/day)

perfect... do that for a couple days and get carry up some, then maybe tackling or something (whatever you think it best)

I could also get some custom equipment to power up some areas. Looking at raw numbers though is hard for me to figure out what would be best and how many of those to use.

 

[The Duff Man]

If you are interested in joining something special - a FBG team that is going to win with hard work and smarts instead of fancy trades and $ - join Detroit Football Guys.

Still need:

FB

G

NT

DT

DE

LB

LB

K

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[Master of Past and Present]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

Did I mention he is 6'4"?Thanks for the offer. I'll probably accept, but I want to see what's out there. You going to keep me as a starter?

yeah, you'd start... I probably have a level 6 QB coming (I think he's the highest rated QB on the planet right now)

This could be awesome. What sort of offense you plan on having?

power running up the middle to free up our WRs on the outside. That's as deep as I'm seeing the ability to make lolBut we need a guy who isn't just a speedster and is gonna catch most everything thrown to him on the outside. You sound like a perfect fit for what we're gonna do.

Ehh screw the other offers. Paul is catching a flight to Milwaukee right now to shop for a house. I hope we win it all this year.

I had some guy offer about $25000 more than Larry boy but I created a player to play for a FBG owner.

 

[larry_boy_44]

I could also get some custom equipment to power up some areas. Looking at raw numbers though is hard for me to figure out what would be best and how many of those to use.

wherever you think it works best. You're a corner, so speed, hands, agility are important. Tackling since you're on d. hands are a concern because you are a returner.lean towards those areas if you are gonna make equiptment.

 

[larry_boy_44]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

Did I mention he is 6'4"?Thanks for the offer. I'll probably accept, but I want to see what's out there. You going to keep me as a starter?

yeah, you'd start... I probably have a level 6 QB coming (I think he's the highest rated QB on the planet right now)

This could be awesome. What sort of offense you plan on having?

power running up the middle to free up our WRs on the outside. That's as deep as I'm seeing the ability to make lolBut we need a guy who isn't just a speedster and is gonna catch most everything thrown to him on the outside. You sound like a perfect fit for what we're gonna do.

Ehh screw the other offers. Paul is catching a flight to Milwaukee right now to shop for a house. I hope we win it all this year.

I had some guy offer about $25000 more than Larry boy but I created a player to play for a FBG owner.

wow... I have no idea how this games economy works... lol

 

[Dope]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

Did I mention he is 6'4"?Thanks for the offer. I'll probably accept, but I want to see what's out there. You going to keep me as a starter?

yeah, you'd start... I probably have a level 6 QB coming (I think he's the highest rated QB on the planet right now)

This could be awesome. What sort of offense you plan on having?

power running up the middle to free up our WRs on the outside. That's as deep as I'm seeing the ability to make lolBut we need a guy who isn't just a speedster and is gonna catch most everything thrown to him on the outside. You sound like a perfect fit for what we're gonna do.

Coach...I am modeling myslef after John Hannah. Not the strongest guy, but one who is athletic too.I hope that fits in with your power running game.

 

[Master of Past and Present]

I could also get some custom equipment to power up some areas. Looking at raw numbers though is hard for me to figure out what would be best and how many of those to use.

wherever you think it works best. You're a corner, so speed, hands, agility are important. Tackling since you're on d. hands are a concern because you are a returner.lean towards those areas if you are gonna make equiptment.

Probably hold off for some results first. If I start fumbling, I'll get some hands. If I start missing too many tackles, I'll do some there. Think the best thing right now is to sit tight and let the results tell me where to go.

 

[phthalatemagic]

I just made a level 4 WR. Didn't make him specifically a burner, or a possession WR, he has great overall skills though.Paul Warfield.He'll be looking for so if you aren't willing to open the checkbook, look elsewhere. Someone will.

offer sent...

Did I mention he is 6'4"?Thanks for the offer. I'll probably accept, but I want to see what's out there. You going to keep me as a starter?

yeah, you'd start... I probably have a level 6 QB coming (I think he's the highest rated QB on the planet right now)

This could be awesome. What sort of offense you plan on having?

power running up the middle to free up our WRs on the outside. That's as deep as I'm seeing the ability to make lolBut we need a guy who isn't just a speedster and is gonna catch most everything thrown to him on the outside. You sound like a perfect fit for what we're gonna do.

Ehh screw the other offers. Paul is catching a flight to Milwaukee right now to shop for a house. I hope we win it all this year.

I had some guy offer about $25000 more than Larry boy but I created a player to play for a FBG owner.

 

[larry_boy_44]

I could also get some custom equipment to power up some areas. Looking at raw numbers though is hard for me to figure out what would be best and how many of those to use.

wherever you think it works best. You're a corner, so speed, hands, agility are important. Tackling since you're on d. hands are a concern because you are a returner.lean towards those areas if you are gonna make equiptment.

Probably hold off for some results first. If I start fumbling, I'll get some hands. If I start missing too many tackles, I'll do some there. Think the best thing right now is to sit tight and let the results tell me where to go.

exactly what I'm doing, too. I have an OT and a DT and I'm waiting to see what the results say for a game or two before I make anything costum (I did buy equiptment that is basic in all 4 areas, though...)

 

[Drifter]

I think the reason why someone would offer a starting job to someone even though they have a CPU at a higher level is that you can strategize with a human player better and have them adjust their tactics to your game plan.

 

[larry_boy_44]

I think the reason why someone would offer a starting job to someone even though they have a CPU at a higher level is that you can strategize with a human player better and have them adjust their tactics to your game plan.

plus if you take into account equiptment (and costum equiptment) a human is almost 1 level higher than thier actual level at minimum as far as ratings go... and they'll probably improve better/faster than computer players (who might not improve at all)

 

[UOFI_316]

Larry boy - What positions do you need??? I will be making my player shortly.

SS could be useful, especially if you only create 1 guy and he's level 4...TE and LB could use upgrades, too... and would be options...

otherwise I can't promise the starting gig, but you would definately get playing time (and probably start next year). The only places I definately have someone is I have a RB, WR, T, G, DT, and CB... so other than RB no spot is 100% taken...

I was thinking TE so I will go that route.

Iron MikeL2 TE, 6'-5", 246lbs increased route running and catching, slight bump in speed. Planning on making him catch anything over the middle.

 

[larry_boy_44]

uh... guys...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=692

all players are getting wiped after season 1... WTF?

n/m

we're in season 2...

 

[phthalatemagic]

This is a crazy theory of mine, hell it may be clear as day to everyone else here -

I think stamina will play into how your players perform in game. I also think stamina also plays into how your players train. When I see the training intensity values, with intense being +3 en, and the relaxed being +15 en that says to me that intense makes your current energy refill slower, but whatever you are training increases at about a 20% greater rate. This really means something after a few weeks (if we keep playing that is). Now if I'm assuming you guys had the same priorities as me, you wanted to put your points into other stuff, and not stamina when creating your character, you may have put in a token point but nothing of any value over the original newbie stamina value. So we are all low in stamina. In my opinion, if we all make the investment in training stamina intensely for a week or maybe two, we will be able to train harder for real tangible values that have actual payoffs ingame. This may cost us some wins or stats in the short term, but our players will be better long term (if that matters to anyone)

 

[The Duff Man]

uh... guys...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=692

all players are getting wiped after season 1... WTF?

n/m

we're in season 2...

I assume this is Season 2, with alpha testing being season 1. It says it will go public during season 2, which it has.

 

[BigJohn]

uh... guys...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=692

all players are getting wiped after season 1... WTF?

n/m

we're in season 2...

Beta. Wonder if this is gonna be a pay league by the time it gets launched.

 

[phthalatemagic]

uh... guys...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/forum_thread.pl?thread_id=692

all players are getting wiped after season 1... WTF?

n/m

we're in season 2...

Ehhh.... the power of FBG means if everyone starts out at the same point after this season, then we will dominate after the wipe

 

[larry_boy_44]

This is a crazy theory of mine, hell it may be clear as day to everyone else here - I think stamina will play into how your players perform in game. I also think stamina also plays into how your players train. When I see the training intensity values, with intense being +3 en, and the relaxed being +15 en that says to me that intense makes your current energy refill slower, but whatever you are training increases at about a 20% greater rate. This really means something after a few weeks (if we keep playing that is). Now if I'm assuming you guys had the same priorities as me, you wanted to put your points into other stuff, and not stamina when creating your character, you may have put in a token point but nothing of any value over the original newbie stamina value. So we are all low in stamina. In my opinion, if we all make the investment in training stamina intensely for a week or maybe two, we will be able to train harder for real tangible values that have actual payoffs ingame. This may cost us some wins or stats in the short term, but our players will be better long term (if that matters to anyone)

I gave my guy a ton of stamina...if you are worried about stamina, I'm pretty sure I gave all my guys signing bonuses, buy equiptment (basic stuff for now) that has +1 stamina on it, you'll go up 4 points (which is like a 50% increase over where most guys started)...