Official Game 163 Thread (1 Viewer)

[CrossEyed]

What a major choke by Hoffman.

 

[Capella]

That was simply amazing. How about the roar of the crowd right before the safe call?

 

[meeka]

What a great game. Feel terrible for Hoffman there.

 

[Capella]

wow, never got the plate.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

What a major choke by Hoffman.

He doesn't pitch well at Coors.

 

[CrossEyed]

Wow, he never touched the plate. The ump blew that call.

 

[The Duff Man]

What an ending. And he didn't touch the plate to boot.

 

[wilked]

missed the plate

 

[whoknew]

That was a WEIRD call. Did Holliday touch the plate?!?

 

[Jules Winnfield]

Big miss there by the homeplate umpire.

He waited and then made the safe sign.

What's up with that?

 

[pgreenfan]

unreal.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

wow, never got the plate.

This crew(mainly the HP umpire) sucked all night. Just a fitting ending. Good luck Rockies.

 

[ffldrew]

Not a great game for the umps here.

 

[jonessed]

Big miss there by the homeplate umpire.He waited and then made the safe sign.What's up with that?

Payback for the Bradley incident. He's right there. No way he misses that.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Finishes like that are why October baseball rules. What a finish!

 

[RedRaiders]

Shame on Michael Barrett for not selling that - there was no call right away so you have to tag him and argue your case.

 

[Chase Stuart]

It's a shame God wasn't up in heaven helping the umpire.

 

[Capella]

wow, never got the plate.

This crew(mainly the HP umpire) sucked all night. Just a fitting ending. Good luck Rockies.

Well, they did have a 2-run lead in the 9th. Don't start the excuses.gunz > suck it

 

[shredhead]

SAWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Rockies!!!!!!!!!

 

[CrossEyed]

I think that ump has some 'splainin' to do.

 

[Jules Winnfield]

wow, never got the plate.

This crew(mainly the HP umpire) sucked all night. Just a fitting ending. Good luck Rockies.

Well, they did have a 2-run lead in the 9th. Don't start the excuses.gunz > suck it

I agree that Hoffman choked away the 2 run lead but that call is absolutely horrible.McClelland (sp?) hesitates and then makes the safe call. WTF?He missed that one and it was right there for the baseball world to see.

 

[Capella]

God, those playoff hats are atrocious.

 

[rascal]

makes it even for that horrible call on Atkins HR that was taken way.

GO ROCK!!!!!!!!

 

[BoltzNBrew]

wow, never got the plate.

This crew(mainly the HP umpire) sucked all night. Just a fitting ending. Good luck Rockies.

Well, they did have a 2-run lead in the 9th. Don't start the excuses.gunz > suck it

Did you watch the game or are you just here to rub it in? I'm not making excuses. They missed the Rockies HR (with 6 umpires), the Strike zone was erratic for both sides and finally the call at home.

 

[Elway Lives]

I thought for sure the Rocks were gonna join last years Donkeys and last years Avs as the third Denver team to miss the playoffs by 1 game.

Very exciting game!

 

[Capella]

Did you watch the game or are you just here to rub it in?

Both, actually.

 

[jonessed]

wow, never got the plate.

This crew(mainly the HP umpire) sucked all night. Just a fitting ending. Good luck Rockies.

Well, they did have a 2-run lead in the 9th. Don't start the excuses.gunz > suck it

Did you watch the game or are you just here to rub it in? I'm not making excuses. They missed the Rockies HR (with 6 umpires), the Strike zone was erratic for both sides and finally the call at home.

That wasn't a home run. It hit the back part of that fence line and shot out. The only other thing it could have hit was the wheelchair and that was too far back.

 

[QuizGuy66]

I think that ump has some 'splainin' to do.

heh you're soundin' a litle like a seahawks fan <grin>but seriously that is a tragic wrong call to end a fantastic game. They should still be playing right now.-QG

 

[Ghost Rider]

In those home plate situations, they said that the umpire will usually say if the guy missed the plate, so had he, the ump would have said it, and Holliday would have went for the plate again, instead of laying there and waiting for the call. That doesn't excuse the call, but I am just saying.

 

[Widbil83]

I'm on the Rockies bandwagon!

 

[jonessed]

In those home plate situations, they said that the umpire will usually say if the guy missed the plate, so had he, the ump would have said it, and Holliday would have went for the plate again, instead of laying there and waiting for the call. That doesn't excuse the call, but I am just saying.

Holliday had his face ground in the dirt and was 5+ feet off the bag. He wasn't moving.The call wasn't missed. Someone said a few days ago that the umps would have payback for the Bradley incident and this was it.

 

[Bogart]

The look on Helton's face and his reactions are simply priceless. That is what sports is all about.

 

[tommyGunZ]

wow, never got the plate.

This crew(mainly the HP umpire) sucked all night. Just a fitting ending. Good luck Rockies.

Well, they did have a 2-run lead in the 9th. Don't start the excuses.

Huh? What game were you watching?

gunz > suck it

 

[shredhead]

After further review, there is no conclusive video evidence to determine whether Matt Holliday touched home plate or not. The ruling on the field stands!!

 

[tommyGunZ]

No idea why Barrett didn't explode right there.

F'n Trevor Hoffman. F'n Jake Peavy. Padres were let down by their two best pitchers tonight. Hats off to the Rocks.

 

[Chase Stuart]

The call wasn't missed. Someone said a few days ago that the umps would have payback for the Bradley incident and this was it.

Hard for anyone to ignore that possibility.

 

[The Kansas Comet]

No idea why Barrett didn't explode right there.

F'n Trevor Hoffman. F'n Jake Peavy. Padres were let down by their two best pitchers tonight. Hats off to the Rocks.

That's the most surprising part of the night to me. The Pads bullpen was nails until Hoffman came out. The Rockies didn't do anything against anyone else, just the probable NL Cy Young winner and the all-time saves leader. Weird.

 

[tommyGunZ]

Disappointing result, but an absolute classic. The lead changed hands several times, both teams had late rallies with their backs against the walls, and the finish was dramatic and exciting.

GB sports.

Nite fellas, I've got some fetal position, thumb-sucking weeping to do.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Jake doing his best to prove he's not the big game pitcher he's been anointed.

And you're doing your best to prove the TGunz rooting interest curse is alive and well.At least when this is over you got the rest of the Chargers season to look forward too.......oh wait

Behold the power......

 

[ffldrew]

Nice work by San Diego fans on Wikipedia

Timothy Reid McClelland (born December 12, 1951 in Jackson, Michigan) is an umpire in Major League Baseball who has worked in the American League from 1983 to 1999 and throughout both leagues since 2000. He has called many important games, from postseason games to the George Brett "Pine Tar" game in 1983. More recently, he was the plate umpire for the Sammy Sosa corked bat game on June 3, 2003 when the Chicago Cubs hosted the Tampa Bay Devil Rays at Wrigley Field. He has worn uniform number 36 since his promotion to the AL, and kept the number when Major League Baseball merged the American and National League umpiring staffs in 2000.

He is one of the tallest major league umpires at 6-foot-6. He is known for working in a kneeling position behind the plate and for his deliberate strike calls. He has consistently been rated among the top umpires in the majors by players, managers and executives. He is noted for having a small strike zone, but is praised even by pitchers for the consistency of that zone.

McClelland has officiated in numerous noteworthy baseball games. He has been a World Series umpire four times (1993, 2000, 2002 and 2006), and worked in three All-Star games (1986, 1998 and 2003), calling balls and strikes on the last occasion. He has also called five Division Series (1997, 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006), serving as crew chief in 1997, 2004, and 2006 and in six League Championship Series (1988, 1995, 1999, 2001, 2003, and 2005), serving as crew chief in 1999, 2003, and 2005. He is the home plate umpire for the single-game playoff between the Colorado Rockies and the San Diego Padres to decide the NL's 2007 wild card team. He was also the third base umpire for Nolan Ryan's sixth career no-hitter on June 11, 1990.

In his first season in the AL, he was behind the plate in the infamous "Pine Tar" game at Yankee Stadium on July 24, 1983, in which George Brett of the Kansas City Royals hit a 3-run home run, which was immediately protested by New York Yankees manager Billy Martin due to an obscure equipment rule. McClelland inspected Brett's bat, which had pine tar 24 inches up the handle. Because of the rule stating that pine tar cannot extend more than 18 inches up a bat handle, McClelland called Brett out, which nullified the home run. AL president Lee MacPhail later overturned McClelland's decision, clarifying that any protest regarding equipment must be made prior to a play, and had the Yankees and Royals replay the inning. In a twist of irony, nine years later McClelland was a member of the crew that worked Brett's 3,000th hit game and was one of the first to congratulate the future Hall of Famer.

Fifteen years later, McClelland was once again behind the plate at Yankee Stadium for a famous game, as David Wells pitched a perfect game against the Minnesota Twins on May 17, 1998. He also was the umpire during the 2003 game where famous slugger Sammy Sosa was caught with a corked bat at Wrigley Field during the interleague game between the Tampa Bay Devil Rays at the Chicago Cubs. Sosa broke his bat hitting a routine ground out, and upon inspection of the fragments of the bat, cork was found, leading to Sosa's ejection and subsequent eight game suspension (appealed down to seven games).

Most recently, McClelland worked home plate for the one game playoff between San Diego and Colorado. In the bottom of the 13th inning, with the score even at 8-8, the Rockies appeared to score the winning run on a sacrifice fly when McClelland called the tagging baserunner safe. The baserunner, Matt Holliday, did not in fact touch home plate on the slide, getting blocked by San Diego catcher Michael Barrett. McClelland also hesitated several seconds before making the safe call. McClelland's noncommittal call, as well as the delay in making it, calls into question whether or not he had the proper angle to make it, and whether he was apprehensive about making a call that would have gone against the home team at a pivotal moment in the game.[citation needed]

McClelland, a graduate of Michigan State University, is a major league crew chief, and is among the fifteen most senior active major league umpires.

 

[Drifter]

Sweet Baby Jeebus. I've been to a lot of great sporting events in my life. I grew up in Pennsylvania during the height of the Steel Curtain. I was in grade school when Tug McGraw and Mike Schmidt won the World Series. I went to CU in the late 80s and early 90s when we were winning National Championships, with 5th downs and Kordell Stewart throwing Hail Mary's in the Big House. I've lived in Denver through Elways first and second Superbowl victories and both of the Avs' Stanley Cups. I have never, ever been to a sporting event like that. The emotion from Fogg throwing a first strike, chest high changeup to Gonzalez with the bases loaded, to the homerun that 50,000+ fans saw go out but not one of 6 umps did, to Holliday taking two steps in on a line drive that went over his head, to going 2 runs down in the 13th inning with one of the best closers of this decade coming up and coming through anyway. Unbelievable. I'm completely drained and I feel like I've swallowed 20 razor blades.

The true irony - we had a last minute bailout on our 4th ticket and we called at least 10 people (including Finless) who all turned it down for completely lame reasons (wanted to watch the Pats, had to watch the kids, wife wouldn't let them...) Big mistake.

 

[Drifter]

wow, never got the plate.

This crew(mainly the HP umpire) sucked all night. Just a fitting ending. Good luck Rockies.

Well, they did have a 2-run lead in the 9th. Don't start the excuses.gunz > suck it

Did you watch the game or are you just here to rub it in? I'm not making excuses. They missed the Rockies HR (with 6 umpires), the Strike zone was erratic for both sides and finally the call at home.

That wasn't a home run. It hit the back part of that fence line and shot out. The only other thing it could have hit was the wheelchair and that was too far back.

You know the yellow line is a homerun so your point is irrelevant even if it didn't hit the crip, right? Apparently not.

 

[NY/NJMFDIVER]

No idea why Barrett didn't explode right there. F'n Trevor Hoffman. F'n Jake Peavy. Padres were let down by their two best pitchers tonight. Hats off to the Rocks.

Peavy showed guts, he didn't seem to have anything, but he gutted well enough and pitched to the scoreboard. He gave his all and threw a ton of pitches, just didn't have it and got victimized by the real estate in Coors. But Hoffman, jeez, can the guy ever nail down a game that means anything. You can take those 500 saves and stick em. Great year Pods, you should be proud, and if that game is at Petco, I think San Diego takes it.

 

[jonessed]

wow, never got the plate.

This crew(mainly the HP umpire) sucked all night. Just a fitting ending. Good luck Rockies.

Well, they did have a 2-run lead in the 9th. Don't start the excuses.gunz > suck it

Did you watch the game or are you just here to rub it in? I'm not making excuses. They missed the Rockies HR (with 6 umpires), the Strike zone was erratic for both sides and finally the call at home.

That wasn't a home run. It hit the back part of that fence line and shot out. The only other thing it could have hit was the wheelchair and that was too far back.

You know the yellow line is a homerun so your point is irrelevant even if it didn't hit the crip, right? Apparently not.

Has to hit above it (or over it in this case).

 

[tommyGunZ]

Sweet Baby Jeebus. I've been to a lot of great sporting events in my life. I grew up in Pennsylvania during the height of the Steel Curtain. I was in grade school when Tug McGraw and Mike Schmidt won the World Series. I went to CU in the late 80s and early 90s when we were winning National Championships, with 5th downs and Kordell Stewart throwing Hail Mary's in the Big House. I've lived in Denver through Elways first and second Superbowl victories and both of the Avs' Stanley Cups. I have never, ever been to a sporting event like that. The emotion from Fogg throwing a first strike, chest high changeup to Gonzalez with the bases loaded, to the homerun that 50,000+ fans saw go out but not one of 6 umps did, to Holliday taking two steps in on a line drive that went over his head, to going 2 runs down in the 13th inning with one of the best closers of this decade coming up and coming through anyway. Unbelievable. I'm completely drained and I feel like I've swallowed 20 razor blades.The true irony - we had a last minute bailout on our 4th ticket and we called at least 10 people (including Finless) who all turned it down for completely lame reasons (wanted to watch the Pats, had to watch the kids, wife wouldn't let them...) Big mistake.

Glad you got to see the classic in person. If I'd have been in Denver tonight, I'd have taken you up on that ticket in a heartbeat.GL in against the Phillies. I'll be pulling for an AZ-COL NLCS.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

After further review, there is no conclusive video evidence to determine whether Matt Holliday touched home plate or not. The ruling on the field stands!!

This is seriously the case. If they had video review he would have been safe because although we assume looking at the play he didn’t touch home plate, there is really no way to tell. And Atkins home run should have been the difference in this game anyway but the ump blew that call for sure. Why those OF umps are standing where they are shukes me. They should be almost all the way to the wall because they aren't gonna be used for fair and foul calls anyway unless it's to overrule. Anyway that was an awesome game, just awesome. I was half asleep for most of it but kept waking up at the key moments. Rockies/Phillies series is gonna be insane good with all the runs out there. I really like the Rockies to win the series but will be rooting for the winner of that series to go to the World Series.

 

[DoubleG]

After further review, there is no conclusive video evidence to determine whether Matt Holliday touched home plate or not. The ruling on the field stands!!

This is seriously the case. If they had video review he would have been safe because although we assume looking at the play he didn’t touch home plate, there is really no way to tell. And Atkins home run should have been the difference in this game anyway but the ump blew that call for sure. Why those OF umps are standing where they are shukes me. They should be almost all the way to the wall because they aren't gonna be used for fair and foul calls anyway unless it's to overrule. Anyway that was an awesome game, just awesome. I was half asleep for most of it but kept waking up at the key moments. Rockies/Phillies series is gonna be insane good with all the runs out there. I really like the Rockies to win the series but will be rooting for the winner of that series to go to the World Series.

As a Cub fan, I hope gunz is too. McLelland blew that call, BTW - it's pretty obvious Holliday missed the plate completely. But why Barret didn't freak (once again, as a Cub fan, I've seen him do it plenty) and argue - I have no idea.

 

[RedRaiders]

So why again didn't Bud Black load the bases with no outs. Instead he just issues on IBB? Made no sense.

Peavy was also victimized by not having a CF - hard not to have in that park.

 

[shredhead]

After further review, there is no conclusive video evidence to determine whether Matt Holliday touched home plate or not. The ruling on the field stands!!

This is seriously the case. If they had video review he would have been safe because although we assume looking at the play he didn’t touch home plate, there is really no way to tell. And Atkins home run should have been the difference in this game anyway but the ump blew that call for sure. Why those OF umps are standing where they are shukes me. They should be almost all the way to the wall because they aren't gonna be used for fair and foul calls anyway unless it's to overrule. Anyway that was an awesome game, just awesome. I was half asleep for most of it but kept waking up at the key moments. Rockies/Phillies series is gonna be insane good with all the runs out there. I really like the Rockies to win the series but will be rooting for the winner of that series to go to the World Series.

As a Cub fan, I hope gunz is too. McLelland blew that call, BTW - it's pretty obvious Holliday missed the plate completely. But why Barret didn't freak (once again, as a Cub fan, I've seen him do it plenty) and argue - I have no idea.

It's not obvious at all. You need a reverse angle shot (or an overhear ariel shot) to tell if his hand touched the corner of the plate or not. All I saw is a clean plate before the slide and dirt on the plate after the slide. Whether that dirt was pushed onto the plate by the catchers foot or by Holliday's hand is too hard for me to tell by the replay angles that were shown. Don't tell me it was obvious because it wasn't. The non homerun that hit above the yellow line was more obvious than the play at home. For the record, I don't think either play was obvious. I have to trust the ump that Holliday's hand did brush the corner of the plate when the catcher moved his foot. He had a better view than I.

 

[Broncoholic]

Whatta game!!!!!!

Boy, I'm glad I bought NLDS last week!