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***Official*** Holy Grail Redux WW Game Thread (2 Viewers)

It would be a brilliant bluff though, and I'd be tempted to vote along, but it's a little too good IMO. If it were a seasoned player, I'd think differently.

I want to talk about norm's list again. Hodor was next bg listed, and that list was insanely accurate. How did he do it? And now Hodor jumps on the Lambskin train just like that?

 
McGarnicle said:
It would be a brilliant bluff though, and I'd be tempted to vote along, but it's a little too good IMO. If it were a seasoned player, I'd think differently.

I want to talk about norm's list again. Hodor was next bg listed, and that list was insanely accurate. How did he do it? And now Hodor jumps on the Lambskin train just like that?
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Dude, I think Dan just basically admitted to being bad.

 
Hodor said:
McGarnicle said:
It would be a brilliant bluff though, and I'd be tempted to vote along, but it's a little too good IMO. If it were a seasoned player, I'd think differently.

I want to talk about norm's list again. Hodor was next bg listed, and that list was insanely accurate. How did he do it? And now Hodor jumps on the Lambskin train just like that?
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Dude, I think Dan just basically admitted to being bad.
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Why would he do that??? We can't find our own asses with both hands and a flashlight, so he hands us the game on a platter?
 
I think we all believe Witz GG at this point, right? If we got duped by reading too much into game roles then I can live with that

I know I'm good so I've gotta choose one of the remaining 3

At this point I'd rank them most likely BG

McG

Hodor

EG

So I figure we either choose from those 3 now or you vote me off and probably still end up having to choose between those 3, right? I guess BG could kill someone else off and let Witz decide the game too, but at some point someone in the group of 3 has to string the other one up

 
I want to hear from witz and EG on Norm's list. If we're this unsure about what to do, why not take another look at a list that was so accurate?

Is Hodor a good enough player to pull it off?

 
McGarnicle said:
Hodor said:
McGarnicle said:
It would be a brilliant bluff though, and I'd be tempted to vote along, but it's a little too good IMO. If it were a seasoned player, I'd think differently.

I want to talk about norm's list again. Hodor was next bg listed, and that list was insanely accurate. How did he do it? And now Hodor jumps on the Lambskin train just like that?
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Dude, I think Dan just basically admitted to being bad.
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Why would he do that??? We can't find our own asses with both hands and a flashlight, so he hands us the game on a platter?
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I dunno, giving up, too hard for him to make a case against GGs

 
end game pressure makes people do strange things, don't think I have ever seen a self vote though except when BGs give up

 
If we're just going to throw darts, my vote goes to the best player standing -- most likely to pull off a brilliantly deceptive bg game. In my estimation, that would be Hodor or EG. The Hodor vote has the additional advantage of being next up on Norm's list. If it's a miss, I can live with it because at least there is some logic behind it. Barring that strategy, I see any vote right now as being just a shot in the dark.

 
If I'm the last BG I'm doing everything I can to win

If I'm just one of 3 remaining PJB and I can help the GG win then sure, why not? I'm fine with getting the win as a corpse if that's what it takes

 
I mean if you look at it

Witz kind of confirmed GGRP cause of numbers

Dan looks really good cause of the nade

EG looks good cause of pointing that out about Witz

I am obvious GG.

A BG might feel backed into the corner a bit.

 
Hodor said:
end game pressure makes people do strange things, don't think I have ever seen a self vote though except when BGs give up
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If we lose, I don't want it to be because we voted along with a noob putting himself up as a sacrificial lamb which is a strategy that makes ZERO sense. If he wants to now come out and OBGS, different story.
 
McG nade proves nothing...nothing gives more GG cred than axing a BG

"I'm A GG...trust me" doesn't really give me a ton of confidence either

 
McGarnicle said:
Hodor said:
end game pressure makes people do strange things, don't think I have ever seen a self vote though except when BGs give up
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If we lose, I don't want it to be because we voted along with a noob putting himself up as a sacrificial lamb which is a strategy that makes ZERO sense. If he wants to now come out and OBGS, different story.
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You also gotta realize a bg might be desperate and do what he did to make you think like that.. It makes zero sense for a bg or a gg to do.

 
McGarnicle said:
Hodor said:
end game pressure makes people do strange things, don't think I have ever seen a self vote though except when BGs give up
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If we lose, I don't want it to be because we voted along with a noob putting himself up as a sacrificial lamb which is a strategy that makes ZERO sense. If he wants to now come out and OBGS, different story.
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Unless there's 2 BG worst case is you get another crack at it...

 
Aside from Dan being new to this game, is he known as pretty intelligent around the FFA/SP? Would he be capable of pulling a stunt like this as a bg to create doubt?

 
McGarnicle said:
Merlin said:
McGarnicle said:
FatUncleJerryBuss said:
McGarnicle said:
I whacked icon btw. The thought process is a long story...and then I thought I'd better keep my mouth shut, but I want the village to have all available info in case I go soon.
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Well nice hit brother, why didn't you toast me?
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I got the grenade last night and couldn't sleep, that's how freaking amped I am about this game. First two thoughts I had -- don't screw up by taking out a gg, and don't tell anyone in case stealing grenades is a real thing.So I thought about who I thought was bad. At the time, you and EG were near the top of the list, along with others...definitely Loan, icon, few others. But, I'm a noob and I've been wrong before so I said, I'd better just trust the collective wisdom of the village.

So I figured I would see who got run up with votes, take him out if he looked bad, then let votes get someone else hopefully bad....boom, two bg's in one day.

Loan and Foos were the choices. Both clearly bad IMO. One was obviously going to get lynched. Then it started looking so bad for both of them that I didn't want to waste the grenade on one of them. Neither of them is getting away.

We're way behind, I need to think outside the box. Experienced people were adamant that Buss and EG are good, so I need to chill with those ideas.

Icon looked sketchy as hell, yet no one was talking about him. And I didn't think as a noob anyone would follow me if I threw his name out there. Then he's throwing my name around, which just seemed completely idiotic and I concluded there's no way he's good. So I pulled the trigger and started hitting refresh a million times, hoped like crazy I was right.

No option to pass the grenade to anyone else, btw.

Figured I should keep my mouth shut so I'm not a target, but that's actually not a smart play for the village in the long run, so here you go.
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LoL

The moral of this story is don't bad mouth the guy with the pineapple

Well played GB

:tipscap:

:banned:
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The biggest tell was when he said it was a good night, after we had just gotten our asses handed to us. Then I knew he was an experienced player, everyone else has me on the right list, yet there he is talking about me when there were obviously bigger fish to fry at that point. The things he was saying felt way off to be a gg. Anything pro-village felt casual and fake.
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Bumping in case anyone missed it.
 
So going back to that day....Loan and Foos were going out anyway, so if I was a bg, why not just nade one of them? By taking out a bg that wasn't on anyone's radar, I handed them a significant loss. I get the strategy of bg's nading bg's, but there was a way to do it there that would not have been so devastating to the bg team.

 
If I'm a bg and Hodor's happy to take out Lambskin, why am I talking him out of it? I could've voted Dan right after Hodor, and he'd be gone.

 
I've gone back and looked at a few of the pivotal lynches and you can make cases GG/BG for pretty much everyone left. This is brutal.

 
Here's the thing - if I go back and wanted to point out something suspicious on the four of you, I can point out something on Dan, McG and EG. I don't know of anything that has stood out about Hodor.

 
- Dan's comments around the Icon death and Foos/Loan run-ups were fishy along with his possible HC

- EG's cut and paste possible HC

- McG's long winded response as to why he decided to throw the grenade at Icon as opposed to Loan/Foos who were both getting run up

Hodor - nothing. Nothing stands out one way or the other.

 
Witz said:
Here's the thing - if I go back and wanted to point out something suspicious on the four of you, I can point out something on Dan, McG and EG. I don't know of anything that has stood out about Hodor.
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I don't have the advantage of knowing how often an "obvious" gg turned out be bad and tricked everyone all the way to the end. That's why I've sincerely asked if it's plausible and if so, would Hodor be a guy who could pull it off?
 
Witz said:
- Dan's comments around the Icon death and Foos/Loan run-ups were fishy along with his possible HC

- EG's cut and paste possible HC

- McG's long winded response as to why he decided to throw the grenade at Icon as opposed to Loan/Foos who were both getting run up

Hodor - nothing. Nothing stands out one way or the other.
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The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist

 
Witz said:
- Dan's comments around the Icon death and Foos/Loan run-ups were fishy along with his possible HC

- EG's cut and paste possible HC

- McG's long winded response as to why he decided to throw the grenade at Icon as opposed to Loan/Foos who were both getting run up

Hodor - nothing. Nothing stands out one way or the other.
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What were Dan's comments?
 
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