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*** Official Jaguars have NO SHOT against the Patriots *** (1 Viewer)

JaxBill

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- Lost in all of the hoopla from the Jags victory is that the Jags' one-two punch of Taylor & MJD only managed to run for a combined 77 yards.

- That was against a banged-up defense missing a run-stuffing DE and their best tackling safety was playing hurt. The Pats in contrast are healthy and rested.

-Another fact from that game is that the Jags DID blow an 18 point lead. To beat Brady and company, they'll have to score and score with no letup.

- You have to think Belichick has been gameplanning for the Jags since the media pointed to them as a potentially worthy opponent several weeks ago.

- Jack Del Rio's song at http://www.ryanparkersongs.com/ is clearly a bad sign.

- Jaguars have never won a playoff game in a state with a former Mormon governor turned Presidential candidate.

- As if the Pats needed any more incentive, there are plaenty of Jags quotes surfacing this week regarding spygate.

- Jaguars gave up 337 yards passing last week and that was with Roethlisberger playing behind a banged-up offensive line. In contrast three of the Pats offensive linemen are headed to the Pro Bowl.

- The Titans were the last team to beat the Patriots at home in a playoff game. There's a good chance that you don't remember it, because the Titans were still the Houston Oilers. And the Phillips head coach on the sideline was Bum, not Wade. (Earl Campbell was 27/118/1, Dan Pastorini was 12/15/200 3 TD, 1 INT)

- Jags converted 3 interceptions last game into 14 points. Meanwhile, Brady has only had EIGHT interception all year. He's averaging roughly an interception every 50 attempts.

- The teams that have played the Pats the toughest were Philadelphia and Baltimore. They're both blitzing teams and the Jags generally don't blitz. Jags prefer to rush 4 and drop 7. Brady has shown that he can rip the coverages apart if given time.

- In the conspiracy department, the Pats-Colts matchup would get infinitely higher TV ratings nationwide than the Jags -Colts or worse yet, Jags-Chargers.

- Hellloooo? What part of 16-0, don't you understand?

 
This strategy worked against Pittsburgh because they suck.

I officially curse this jinx with the devil pot stirrer.

:goodposting:

Jacksonville will NEVER win now...... haahaahaaaaaa (evil laugh)

 
Another ominois sign, a team that runs out of draft beer in the first quarter is in big trouble going up to Sam Adams country-

Shortage of brew at the Bud ZoneBy TRACY COLLINS, Tracy.collins@jacksonville.comThere was plenty of celebrating at Jacksonville Municipal Stadium after the Jaguars won their first-round playoff game at Pittsburgh Saturday. But not everybody went home happy. Fans reported 45-minute waits to get a drink, a lack of condiments and long bathroom lines at the Bud Zone, which the Jaguars opened inside the stadium to allow fans to watch the game. The team offered free parking and $2 beer specials, but the draft beer supply ran dry. According to Jaguars Vice President of Stadium Operations Bill Prescott, the organization was caught off guard by the turnout. "We were expecting between 1,500 and 2,000 people," Prescott said. Instead, nearly 5,000 showed up. The stadium ran out of draft beer before the first quarter was over and sold bottled beer for $5. "We were pulling draft beer from the coliseum to accommodate the stadium," Prescott said. "The response was overwhelming.'' "We were really looking forward to watching the game there, but we left halfway through the first quarter," said Mike Bird, a 12-year season ticket holder. "It was woefully understaffed, and we were tired of waiting.'' The Jaguars will open the stadium again for Saturday night's game against New England. In addition to beefing up staff, the stadium is opening four more restrooms and two large concession stands along the main concourse in the south end zone. "We're planning for not only 5,000," Prescott said. "We're prepared to handle double that number for this Saturday night." tracy.collins@jacksonville.com
 
i appreciate this thread, jaxbill.

a couple of other things (not like they are needed, the pats are a 16-0 nazi war machine):

-the jags are most vulnerable to teams that are willing to abandon the running game (like brees ripping us apart, like what the steelers should've done earlier in both games). the pats are smart enough not to waste time fiddling with a the running game. belichick has shown all season that he doesn't care about the "nfl coaching handbook rule no. 1" that you must establish a running game. years ago, belichick questioned why anyone would try to run the ball if they weren't having success with it (and that was pre-randy moss/wes welker).

-who in the hell is going to cover randy moss? the secondary is extremely vulnerable and if anything, rashean's big game will probably just have him overconfident against moss. there won't be routes to jump. it will only be moss jumping over rashean's head 60 yards down the field.

the pats will fling the ball all over the field. deep for fun. short to welker when we pretend to try to take away to the deep stuff to moss.

in all likelihood, it will be the most demoralizing 60 minutes of football i have ever watched in my entire life.

 
That's a great article. I'm a Pats fan but I can admit... they're #######s. Malfunctioning audio equipment - they can't "prove" it was the Patriots, just like they couldn't "prove" Bill Walsh and the 49ers were doing it back in the 80's, just as no one can "prove" the Colts pump artificial noise into the RCA Dome nowadays - but who are we kidding, right? (I have to say, complaining about Brady not sliding was weak; it's akin to complaining about a kicker who flops around after getting brushed - it's dishonest but nonetheless accepted gamesmanship, and you come across as an LDTesque whiner by commenting about it).

But anyway, the Pats got nailed for videotaping signals, which in and of itself is a pretty small trangression (when you look at the rules, when you consider the razor thin competitive advantage it gave them, when you consider the quotes around the league from personnel people and scouts, etc.) Anyone who argues that point usually says, "well, if it was no big deal, why did they lose a 1st rounder and all that money... an UNPRECEDENTED penalty.... blah blah blah." You know why? Because of all this other stuff. Because they have a reputation for bending or flat out breaking the rules any way and every way they can. If you're a cop, and you stop Al Capone for speeding, would you let him off with a warning? Hell no, you ticket him for as much as you justifiable can, search his car, throw on an imprudent driving charge, etc. etc. Same thing here; the Pats were caught red-handed, and Goodell had all the discretion in the world (he could've made the penalty 10 times worse or 10 times lighter; it's not like there's a legal precedent to deal with). So he poured it on, and good for him - he sent a tough message to Belichick just as he'd done with Pacman and Chris Henry. At the very least, the Pats won't be so arrogant about flaunting league rules anymore, even if they are insignificant (and make no mistake, this "cameras on the sidelines" thing is insignificant).

But getting back to this article - how funny is it that people are talking about the Pats being motivated by all this? Jacksonville basically thinks the Pats cheated them out of a playoff victory, shouldn't they be the ones royally pissed off and ready to burn Gillette to the ground? Shouldn't this stuff be a motivational advantage for THEM?

 
- As if the Pats needed any more incentive, there are plaenty of Jags quotes surfacing this week regarding spygate.
OK; I'll bite. Link?
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/footbal...amp;format=text
Thanks for the link. From the article...The last word goes to Spicer.

“They’re the ones that have to pay the consequences for it,” he said in September. “If that’s the way they feel like they have to get the upper hand, then so be it. Everybody’s been running around calling them geniuses for years. What are they going to say now?”

To answer Paul's question, I think he'll find out on Saturday what New England has to say about his and Del Rio's comments.

 
- As if the Pats needed any more incentive, there are plaenty of Jags quotes surfacing this week regarding spygate.
OK; I'll bite. Link?
http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/footbal...amp;format=text
Thanks for the link. From the article...The last word goes to Spicer.

“They’re the ones that have to pay the consequences for it,” he said in September. “If that’s the way they feel like they have to get the upper hand, then so be it. Everybody’s been running around calling them geniuses for years. What are they going to say now?”

To answer Paul's question, I think he'll find out on Saturday what New England has to say about his and Del Rio's comments.
From September. Where was this article then?
 
Del Rio has announcd today that although Mike Peterson has his cast off, he will NOT be playing this week.

 
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous.

Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.

 
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous. Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.
You mean, they should begin to believe they're the best. Then they can assume that since they're the best, they can relax a little. They're still the best. And when no team catches them napping once they've relaxed a bit, they start to feel entitled. And then the get their collective a**es whipped because they got away from the one driving force that has made them the team that they are... Laser focus on the objective and a complete belief that they need their absolute best every time to win.It may not play well for your sensibilities, but it sure seems to work for them.
 
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous. Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.
You mean, they should begin to believe they're the best. Then they can assume that since they're the best, they can relax a little. They're still the best. And when no team catches them napping once they've relaxed a bit, they start to feel entitled. And then the get their collective a**es whipped because they got away from the one driving force that has made them the team that they are... Laser focus on the objective and a complete belief that they need their absolute best every time to win.It may not play well for your sensibilities, but it sure seems to work for them.
Believing you are the best is not the same as not feeling disrespected. Nor should you need to feel disrespected to work hard.
 
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous. Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.
You mean, they should begin to believe they're the best. Then they can assume that since they're the best, they can relax a little. They're still the best. And when no team catches them napping once they've relaxed a bit, they start to feel entitled. And then the get their collective a**es whipped because they got away from the one driving force that has made them the team that they are... Laser focus on the objective and a complete belief that they need their absolute best every time to win.It may not play well for your sensibilities, but it sure seems to work for them.
Believing you are the best is not the same as not feeling disrespected. Nor should you need to feel disrespected to work hard.
Absolutely true. But believing you are the best can lead to complacency. The leadership of this team understands that and uses whatever motivation they can to make sure that doesn't happen.
 
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous. Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.
You mean, they should begin to believe they're the best. Then they can assume that since they're the best, they can relax a little. They're still the best. And when no team catches them napping once they've relaxed a bit, they start to feel entitled. And then the get their collective a**es whipped because they got away from the one driving force that has made them the team that they are... Laser focus on the objective and a complete belief that they need their absolute best every time to win.It may not play well for your sensibilities, but it sure seems to work for them.
Believing you are the best is not the same as not feeling disrespected. Nor should you need to feel disrespected to work hard.
Absolutely true. But believing you are the best can lead to complacency. The leadership of this team understands that and uses whatever motivation they can to make sure that doesn't happen.
They can't find better motivation? Funny because the Pats players were just using the "as a player you shouldn't need more motivation than it's the playoffs" card when talking about the Jags' Spicer.
 
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous. Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.
You mean, they should begin to believe they're the best. Then they can assume that since they're the best, they can relax a little. They're still the best. And when no team catches them napping once they've relaxed a bit, they start to feel entitled. And then the get their collective a**es whipped because they got away from the one driving force that has made them the team that they are... Laser focus on the objective and a complete belief that they need their absolute best every time to win.It may not play well for your sensibilities, but it sure seems to work for them.
Believing you are the best is not the same as not feeling disrespected. Nor should you need to feel disrespected to work hard.
Absolutely true. But believing you are the best can lead to complacency. The leadership of this team understands that and uses whatever motivation they can to make sure that doesn't happen.
They can't find better motivation? Funny because the Pats players were just using the "as a player you shouldn't need more motivation than it's the playoffs" card when talking about the Jags' Spicer.
Maybe they could, but I'm from the school of stick with what works.
 
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous. Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.
You mean, they should begin to believe they're the best. Then they can assume that since they're the best, they can relax a little. They're still the best. And when no team catches them napping once they've relaxed a bit, they start to feel entitled. And then the get their collective a**es whipped because they got away from the one driving force that has made them the team that they are... Laser focus on the objective and a complete belief that they need their absolute best every time to win.It may not play well for your sensibilities, but it sure seems to work for them.
Believing you are the best is not the same as not feeling disrespected. Nor should you need to feel disrespected to work hard.
Absolutely true. But believing you are the best can lead to complacency. The leadership of this team understands that and uses whatever motivation they can to make sure that doesn't happen.
They can't find better motivation? Funny because the Pats players were just using the "as a player you shouldn't need more motivation than it's the playoffs" card when talking about the Jags' Spicer.
So now we're criticizing the methods a team uses to motivate themselves :rant: ? Some of these posts are priceless......
 
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous. Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.
You mean, they should begin to believe they're the best. Then they can assume that since they're the best, they can relax a little. They're still the best. And when no team catches them napping once they've relaxed a bit, they start to feel entitled. And then the get their collective a**es whipped because they got away from the one driving force that has made them the team that they are... Laser focus on the objective and a complete belief that they need their absolute best every time to win.It may not play well for your sensibilities, but it sure seems to work for them.
Believing you are the best is not the same as not feeling disrespected. Nor should you need to feel disrespected to work hard.
Absolutely true. But believing you are the best can lead to complacency. The leadership of this team understands that and uses whatever motivation they can to make sure that doesn't happen.
They can't find better motivation? Funny because the Pats players were just using the "as a player you shouldn't need more motivation than it's the playoffs" card when talking about the Jags' Spicer.
So now we're criticizing the methods a team uses to motivate themselves :unsure: ? Some of these posts are priceless......
Um, Fred? This is the 'Official Jaguars have NO SHOT against the Patriots' thread. What did you expect?
 
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous. Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.
You mean, they should begin to believe they're the best. Then they can assume that since they're the best, they can relax a little. They're still the best. And when no team catches them napping once they've relaxed a bit, they start to feel entitled. And then the get their collective a**es whipped because they got away from the one driving force that has made them the team that they are... Laser focus on the objective and a complete belief that they need their absolute best every time to win.It may not play well for your sensibilities, but it sure seems to work for them.
Believing you are the best is not the same as not feeling disrespected. Nor should you need to feel disrespected to work hard.
Absolutely true. But believing you are the best can lead to complacency. The leadership of this team understands that and uses whatever motivation they can to make sure that doesn't happen.
So, the leadership on the team actively tries to get the team to believe that they are not the best? or they make them believe that other people don't think they are the best? If the latter, why would this matter if you have true confidence in your skills? Wouldn't you just simply believe that the other people are wrong? or is there a sneaky suspicion that the other people may be right...
 
PhD said:
Road Warriors said:
switz said:
Road Warriors said:
PhD said:
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous. Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.
You mean, they should begin to believe they're the best. Then they can assume that since they're the best, they can relax a little. They're still the best. And when no team catches them napping once they've relaxed a bit, they start to feel entitled. And then the get their collective a**es whipped because they got away from the one driving force that has made them the team that they are... Laser focus on the objective and a complete belief that they need their absolute best every time to win.It may not play well for your sensibilities, but it sure seems to work for them.
Believing you are the best is not the same as not feeling disrespected. Nor should you need to feel disrespected to work hard.
Absolutely true. But believing you are the best can lead to complacency. The leadership of this team understands that and uses whatever motivation they can to make sure that doesn't happen.
So, the leadership on the team actively tries to get the team to believe that they are not the best? or they make them believe that other people don't think they are the best? If the latter, why would this matter if you have true confidence in your skills? Wouldn't you just simply believe that the other people are wrong? or is there a sneaky suspicion that the other people may be right...
Nitpick if you want. If you don't understand that successful teams often get complacent when they've been on top for some time, and a bit of humble pie now and then letting them know they can only stay on top by keeping their edge, then I don't know what to tell you.Again, stick with what works.
 
PhD said:
The whole Patriot disrespect angle is so overplayed it's ridiculous. Bottom line: Has there ever been such a talented team with confidence issues? If the players had half the confidence that they should have by now this junk would never mean anything to them.
I'm not sure the team has confidence issues. Just the fans.
 
Now the defensive coordinator will be distracted heading into the game, just great.

Jags’ defensive coordinator to interview in AtlantaPosted: Wednesday, January 9th, 2008 at 5:23 amBy MICHAEL C. WRIGHTThe Times-UnionJaguars defensive coordinator Mike Smith will interview for Atlanta’s head coaching vacancy late this week, according to a source who requested anonymity because of the delicate nature of the situation.Atlanta has asked and received permission from the Jaguars to interview Smith, the source said.This week is the NFL allotted window for coaches from teams that won wildcard playoff games to interview for jobs if granted permission by their respective teams.Dallas offensive assistants Jason Garrett and Tony Sparano have interviewed with the Falcons within the past week, according to reports in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, in addition to Indianapolis assistant head coach Jim Caldwell and former Baltimore defensive coordinator Rex Ryan.According to reports, the Falcons were also recently granted permission to interview Tennessee defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz for its head-coaching job. Adding further intrigue to the search is a late Tuesday night report from ESPN.com citing anonymous sources stating that Falcons owner Arthur Blank is interested in pursuing USC coach Pete Carroll.Atlanta is simultaneously conducting searches for a head coach and a general manager, and interviewed Jaguars director of college scouting, Gene Smith, on Tuesday. The Falcons have interviewed five candidates for its GM vacancy and an offer could be made by the end of the week, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.In his fifth year with Jacksonville, Mike Smith has helped the Jaguars defense become one of the league’s best. Smith became the club’s defensive coordinator in 2003, and entering the season, the Jags ranked fourth in total defense (296.6 yards per game), and third in points allowed (16.1 per game) while allowing the third-fewest rushing touchdowns (37) from 2003-06.The Jaguars finished the 2007 regular season ranked 12th in total defense despite a rash of injuries, most notably along the defensive front.Smith, 48, is a 26-year coaching veteran on various levels, including the last nine years in the NFL. Prior to joining the Jags, he coached four seasons with the Baltimore Ravens, where he spent 1999-2001 as a defensive assistant/defensive line coach. A native of Daytona Beach, Smith replaced current Jags head coach Jack Del Rio as the Ravens linebackers coach in 2002.
 
Not a lack of confidence but unless the Patriots never have to punt or settle for a FG... and can hold the other team scoreless, they will always be driven to improve.

That's the mindset of the coach and the players.

 
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It's not bad enough that both coordinators are talking to other teams (OC Koetter - Hawaii, DC Mike Smith - Atlanta) this week.

Now, a local sports talk host / TV sports anchor has done a "song" (and I use this term loosely) "Sweet Jags Of Mine"...

http://1010xl.com/interviews/Sweet%20Jags%...ine%20(mix).mp3

WARNING: Use headphones. May cause neighboring dogs to howl.

They're hopelessly, hopelessly doomed now.

 
It's not bad enough that both coordinators are talking to other teams (OC Koetter - Hawaii, DC Mike Smith - Atlanta) this week.

Now, a local sports talk host / TV sports anchor has done a "song" (and I use this term loosely) "Sweet Jags Of Mine"...

http://1010xl.com/interviews/Sweet%20Jags%...ine%20(mix).mp3

WARNING: Use headphones. May cause neighboring dogs to howl.

They're hopelessly, hopelessly doomed now.
Hey, how those Flyers lookin' this year anyway? :goodposting:
 
No shot at all. The line could be over 14 points by game time. Weather is good. The dynasty will role on and the Jags will wait until next season.

 
- Lost in all of the hoopla from the Jags victory is that the Jags' one-two punch of Taylor & MJD only managed to run for a combined 77 yards.

- That was against a banged-up defense missing a run-stuffing DE and their best tackling safety was playing hurt. The Pats in contrast are healthy and rested.

-Another fact from that game is that the Jags DID blow an 18 point lead. To beat Brady and company, they'll have to score and score with no letup.

- You have to think Belichick has been gameplanning for the Jags since the media pointed to them as a potentially worthy opponent several weeks ago.

- Jack Del Rio's song at http://www.ryanparkersongs.com/ is clearly a bad sign.

- Jaguars have never won a playoff game in a state with a former Mormon governor turned Presidential candidate.

- As if the Pats needed any more incentive, there are plaenty of Jags quotes surfacing this week regarding spygate.

- Jaguars gave up 337 yards passing last week and that was with Roethlisberger playing behind a banged-up offensive line. In contrast three of the Pats offensive linemen are headed to the Pro Bowl.

- The Titans were the last team to beat the Patriots at home in a playoff game. There's a good chance that you don't remember it, because the Titans were still the Houston Oilers. And the Phillips head coach on the sideline was Bum, not Wade. (Earl Campbell was 27/118/1, Dan Pastorini was 12/15/200 3 TD, 1 INT)

- Jags converted 3 interceptions last game into 14 points. Meanwhile, Brady has only had EIGHT interception all year. He's averaging roughly an interception every 50 attempts.

- The teams that have played the Pats the toughest were Philadelphia and Baltimore. They're both blitzing teams and the Jags generally don't blitz. Jags prefer to rush 4 and drop 7. Brady has shown that he can rip the coverages apart if given time.

- In the conspiracy department, the Pats-Colts matchup would get infinitely higher TV ratings nationwide than the Jags -Colts or worse yet, Jags-Chargers.

- Hellloooo? What part of 16-0, don't you understand?
JaxBill, I served with Keerock. I knew Keerock; Keerock was a friend of mine. JaxBill, you're no Keerock.
 
The Jaguars are the beneficiaries of the biggest media hype job in this year's playoffs. When you start hearing a lot of people talk about an upset with confidence...that's when you can probably forget about it. I'd be happy to see it happen, but it won't.

Patriots 45, Jaguars 17.

 
NO CHANCE!

For the Love of Pete, Tom Brady didn't throw a single incompletion in the first half, let alone an INT.

It's just a matter of time before Brady snaps his fingers and says the game's over.

 

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