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Official John Kasich 2016 thread (1 Viewer)

Lol.  Kasich just threw his campaign manager under the bus for a harmless tweet.  On national television.  What a Richard this guy is.

 
Yeah.  No need to focus on his responses that make Trump and Cruz look like children.  Need to vote on who has the best mannerisms.  

 
Captain Cranks said:
Yeah.  No need to focus on his responses that make Trump and Cruz look like children.  Need to vote on who has the best mannerisms.  
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Cmon - dude should have dropped out long ago. He's earning his ridicule on overtime now. A few more proportional states and he MAY catch up to . . . Rubio.

 
Is this the kind of president people want?  A guy who eats pizza with a knife and fork?

Gov. John Kasich, presidential candidate, doesn't know how to eat pizza

CINCINNATI – The public was shocked by the offensive behavior of a GOP presidential candidate this week.

But for once, it wasn’t the ever-controversial Donald Trump making headlines. This time, Ohio’s own Gov. John Kasich gave us all something to think about when he publicly revealed he doesn’t know how to eat pizza.

During a campaign stop in Queens, New York Tuesday, Kasich blasphemed against cheesy goodness everywhere when he cut into a classic New York-style slice with a knife and fork.
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I mean, we're not even talking Chicago Deep Dish for cryin' out loud!  It was a NY-style thin crust slice of pizza.  C'mon man!   :no:

 
His ads in Wisconsin are terrible.  Nothing pointing out what his attributes are, just commercial after commercial about how he's the only one that beats Hillary according to the polls.

 
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/politics/john-kasich-chows-sandwich-stop-bronx-deli-article-1.2592086

Move over Kobayashi, move over Joey Chestnut, move over Matt Stonie and move over Black Widow because NYC has it's newest contender for the Nathan's Hot Dog competition although he's got about as good a shot at winning that as he does at being president..   John Kasich put down a sandwich over at Mike Deli in the Bronx and looked like he was channeling his inner Matt Stonie. 

 
He threw down this sandwich and looked like he regurgitated it immediately which I'm sure will ingratiate him with NY Voters because nothing make me want to vote for a guy more than a guy who looks like he is about to puke all over his payless shoes.
 
thanks John, don't let the door hit you in the ### on your way out of the state.
 
Righetti said:
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/politics/john-kasich-chows-sandwich-stop-bronx-deli-article-1.2592086

Move over Kobayashi, move over Joey Chestnut, move over Matt Stonie and move over Black Widow because NYC has it's newest contender for the Nathan's Hot Dog competition although he's got about as good a shot at winning that as he does at being president..   John Kasich put down a sandwich over at Mike Deli in the Bronx and looked like he was channeling his inner Matt Stonie. 

 
He threw down this sandwich and looked like he regurgitated it immediately which I'm sure will ingratiate him with NY Voters because nothing make me want to vote for a guy more than a guy who looks like he is about to puke all over his payless shoes.
 
thanks John, don't let the door hit you in the ### on your way out of the state.
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"Kasich, in between bites of food, got a little testy when one worker asked him if maybe he wasn't doing well because he was "too nice."

He also snapped at reporters afterwards when asked how he planned on winning the New York primary when he was behind in the polls."

Seriously, when does this guy completely snap and punch someone?

 
At this point, Marco Rubio has more bragging rights than John Kasich. At least Rubio knew when to get out. Rubio is salivating at the chance to play some political chess. No way he lets Kasich get it over him if he ends up with more delegates. If Kasich can't get more delegates than Rubio, then his whole campaign is a sham. That's not a knock, I really like the guy.

 
Eminence said:
At this point, Marco Rubio has more bragging rights than John Kasich. At least Rubio knew when to get out. Rubio is salivating at the chance to play some political chess. No way he lets Kasich get it over him if he ends up with more delegates. If Kasich can't get more delegates than Rubio, then his whole campaign is a sham. That's not a knock, I really like the guy.
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Yeah, I think we all saw how little Marco isn't up to playing chess. Even checkers looks to be a little beyond his capability.

 
It's pitiful at this point. The establishment has backed so many different candidates throughout the campaign and now, by sheer virtue of refusing to throw in the towel, he is the only one left. And they're still not picking him.

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
It's pitiful at this point. The establishment has backed so many different candidates throughout the campaign and now, by sheer virtue of refusing to throw in the towel, he is the only one left. And they're still not picking him.
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You're making the mistake of thinking he's a good candidate.

 
ChopMeat said:
You're making the mistake of thinking he's a good candidate.
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Yeah, he's obviously much worse of a candidate than Trump or Cruz.  Good call.

The fact that Kasich isn't getting traction isn't an indictment on him as a presidential candidate; it's an indictment on Republican voters.  Not only have they migrated towards the two most divisive candidates, but the two with the least chance of winning the general election.  At some point people need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask, "what are we doing wrong with our votes" rather than, "stupid government".  

 
Captain Cranks said:
Yeah, he's obviously much worse of a candidate than Trump or Cruz.  Good call.

The fact that Kasich isn't getting traction isn't an indictment on him as a presidential candidate; it's an indictment on Republican voters.  Not only have they migrated towards the two most divisive candidates, but the two with the least chance of winning the general election.  At some point people need to look at themselves in the mirror and ask, "what are we doing wrong with our votes" rather than, "stupid government".  
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Are you saying Cruz isn't a viable candidate because he's too conservative or is it something else?

 
Kasich is the best candidate although he hasn't been able to gain the necessary attention to snag the nomination. The likelihood that he will be the nominee is quite slim. 

 
I can't be the only one who can't stand Kasich. It's not really a policy issue, although we disagree on a fair amount of topics. It's his corny ### ####### jokes and his whiny tone. 

 
RBM said:
Are you saying Cruz isn't a viable candidate because he's too conservative or is it something else?
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He's too conservative, too Evangelical, and too creepy.  He appeals to a relatively small sect of the Republican party, but has very little appeal to moderates like myself who are repulsed by the Christian right.  Beyond that, to be elected president you have to have a likeability factor.  Clinton, GW, and Obama all had a "I like this guy" factor that could draw some people in despite a disagreement on policy.  Bernie Sanders does that for a lot of people.  Cruz is the exact opposite.  You'd have to think twice about voting for the guy even if you agreed with him on every policy.  He's that creepy.   

ETA - Kasich has the likeability factor for me.  I don't agree with all his policies and I usually vote Democratic, but I'd vote for him because he comes across as a genuine, honest person whose policy decisions will be dictated by what he thinks is best for the American people, not what's best for himself or the party.

ETA v2 - Just noticed Sho nailed my answer before I said it.   

 
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Captain Cranks said:
He's too conservative, too Evangelical, and too creepy.  He appeals to a relatively small sect of the Republican party, but has very little appeal to moderates like myself who are repulsed by the Christian right.
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I will agree with all of this. I am conservative but this guy is over the top. As each election passes, religion becomes a smaller and smaller part of the bigger picture. The fact that candidates even use religion as a crutch is completely pathetic. Honestly...who cares (besides the select few who still care about such an irrelevant topic)? He is quite creepy -- I get 'weirded-out' watching his speeches. 

 
Captain Cranks said:
He's too conservative, too Evangelical, and too creepy.  He appeals to a relatively small sect of the Republican party, but has very little appeal to moderates like myself who are repulsed by the Christian right.  Beyond that, to be elected president you have to have a likeability factor.  Clinton, GW, and Obama all had a "I like this guy" factor that could draw some people in despite a disagreement on policy.  Bernie Sanders does that for a lot of people.  Cruz is the exact opposite.  You'd have to think twice about voting for the guy even if you agreed with him on every policy.  He's that creepy.   

ETA - Kasich has the likeability factor for me.  I don't agree with all his policies and I usually vote Democratic, but I'd vote for him because he comes across as a genuine, honest person whose policy decisions will be dictated by what he thinks is best for the American people, not what's best for himself or the party.

ETA v2 - Just noticed Sho nailed my answer before I said it.   
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I feel exactly the same way about Cruz and Kasich, to the letter. Cruz comes off completely rehearsed and phony, and obviously has some weird fetish. Probably diapers or furry costumes, something really bizarre.

Kasich seems smart, plain spoken, pragmatic, plus he's a governor which has been a good proving ground for the presidency. He seems like he'd be able to work with democrats to get things done. So of course he has no chance, not sure why he'd even run in the first place.

 
McGarnicle said:
I feel exactly the same way about Cruz and Kasich, to the letter. Cruz comes off completely rehearsed and phony, and obviously has some weird fetish. Probably diapers or furry costumes, something really bizarre.
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That's tame relative to my thoughts on him.  When I think of Ted Cruz and weird fetish, my mind goes to ice cream truck and little kids.  That's obviously not fair to him, but I'll be damned if he doesn't look the part.  

 
Captain Cranks said:
That's tame relative to my thoughts on him.  When I think of Ted Cruz and weird fetish, my mind goes to ice cream truck and little kids.  That's obviously not fair to him, but I'll be damned if he doesn't look the part.  
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There could be a whole thread about all the creepy stuff he's into. 

 
Republicans have stuck with "the most electable" candidate each of the last two cycles.  Time to shake that up.

Say what you want about Obama.  He's a petulant, petty, divisive, worthless little dink of a human being but he's also as cutthroat an MF'er as you're ever going to find.  He gets stuff done, and is pretty ruthless in how he goes about it.  Republicans don't need someone like Kasich that can "reach across the aisle", they need a cunning, devious dude like Obama that can get something done.

 
One other thing, Democrats and "Independents" (but I repeat myself) love to talk about how they'll vote for a middle of the road candidate like McCain until it actually comes time to vote.  Romney was so middle of the road he was the danged GRANDFATHER of Obamacare and didn't get their votes.

Never believe a Democrat (or so called Independent) when they say they'd vote for a Republican if gosh doggit they'd only nominate a moderate.

Two moderate Republicans in a row are proof positive of that.

Edit to add: I would vote for Kasich if he were the nominee.  He's BY FAR a superior alternative to Clinton and would probably make a decent GW Bush type President (without a lot of the stupidity)

 
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Statorama said:
One other thing, Democrats and "Independents" (but I repeat myself) love to talk about how they'll vote for a middle of the road candidate like McCain until it actually comes time to vote.  Romney was so middle of the road he was the danged GRANDFATHER of Obamacare and didn't get their votes.

Never believe a Democrat (or so called Independent) when they say they'd vote for a Republican if gosh doggit they'd only nominate a moderate.

Two moderate Republicans in a row are proof positive of that.
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So true. That's why I laugh when I hear Kasich can win. When these "moderates" hear him spouting republican ideology next to Hillary they will change their tune real fast. 

 
Statorama said:
Republicans have stuck with "the most electable" candidate each of the last two cycles.  Time to shake that up.

Say what you want about Obama.  He's a petulant, petty, divisive, worthless little dink of a human being but he's also as cutthroat an MF'er as you're ever going to find.  He gets stuff done, and is pretty ruthless in how he goes about it.  Republicans don't need someone like Kasich that can "reach across the aisle", they need a cunning, devious dude like Obama that can get something done.
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You're forgetting matchups.

Romney vs Obama, no. - Incumbent president, 47%, Romney pulled punches, ran against ACA but his law was the pro-ACA, he only had one term as governor from MA of all places.

McCain vs Obama - well maybe this should have worked. McCain was doing quite well and then 1. recession & market crash and 2. Palin, and 3. Iraq had already worn people out.

I think Romney 12 or McCain 08 would win against Hillary 16 myself.

 
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RBM said:
So true. That's why I laugh when I hear Kasich can win. When these "moderates" hear him spouting republican ideology next to Hillary they will change their tune real fast. 
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McCain blew the election by selecting Palin. Romney went too far right during the primary. 

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
You're forgetting matchups.

Romney vs Obama, no. - Incumbent president, 47%, Romney pulled punches, ran against ACA but his law was the pro-ACA, he only had one term as governor from MA of all places.

McCain vs Obama - well maybe this should have worked. McCain was doing quite well and then 1. recession & market crash and 2. Palin, and 3. Iraq had already worn people out.

I think Romney 12 or McCain 08 would win against Hillary 16 myself.
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Yeah, I'm not sure where Statorama is getting his 'stats', but this liberal was all tee'd up to vote for Ron Paul.  I even registered Republican so I could vote for him in the primary.

The majority of Americans identify with libertarian principles; socially liberal, fiscally conservative.  So to say that Indies and moderate liberals won't vote for a moderate Republican is an unsubstantiated opinion.  Give us a fiscal conservative who leaves the Bible gobbly-#### at home when it comes to social issues, and he's got a chance for our vote.   

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
You're forgetting matchups.

Romney vs Obama, no. - Incumbent president, 47%, Romney pulled punches, ran against ACA but his law was the pro-ACA, he only had one term as governor from MA of all places.

McCain vs Obama - well maybe this should have worked. McCain was doing quite well and then 1. recession & market crash and 2. Palin, and 3. Iraq had already worn people out.

I think Romney 12 or McCain 08 would win against Hillary 16 myself.
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Correct. Romney lost by 126 electoral votes in 2012 but had several close states, that he would win in 2016, if running against Hillary. To have won in 2012, Romney would've had to swing 64 electoral votes: Florida - 29 votes, lost by less than 1%; Ohio - 18 votes, lost by 3%; Virginia - 13 votes, lost by less than 4%; and either Colorado or Pennsylvania. In 2016 versus a weaker opponent in Hillary, Romney would be very close in the electoral college. If the Republican voters were patient and stayed the course in 2016, the White House would've been a shoe-in with Kasich or Rubio, who are both stronger GE candidates than Romney.  It's a crap shoot with Trump or Cruz.  

 
joffer said:
Cruz or Trump have zero chance in a general
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Specifically Cruz. I don't care if that isn't reflected in current polls, but the more exposure Cruz gets the more turned off people will get. Trump is a known commodity, I think Cruz's floor is somehow lower than Trump's.

 
SameSongNDance said:
Specifically Cruz. I don't care if that isn't reflected in current polls, but the more exposure Cruz gets the more turned off people will get. Trump is a known commodity, I think Cruz's floor is somehow lower than Trump's.
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Agree. I think Trump has a puncher's chance.  Cruz lol no way. 

 
NorvilleBarnes said:
It's pitiful at this point. The establishment has backed so many different candidates throughout the campaign and now, by sheer virtue of refusing to throw in the towel, he is the only one left. And they're still not picking him.
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Only reason I think he's still in is that he's been told to ride it out and if it gets to a brokered convention, he'll get the nod.

 
SoBeDad said:
Correct. Romney lost by 126 electoral votes in 2012 but had several close states, that he would win in 2016, if running against Hillary. To have won in 2012, Romney would've had to swing 64 electoral votes: Florida - 29 votes, lost by less than 1%; Ohio - 18 votes, lost by 3%; Virginia - 13 votes, lost by less than 4%; and either Colorado or Pennsylvania. In 2016 versus a weaker opponent in Hillary, Romney would be very close in the electoral college. If the Republican voters were patient and stayed the course in 2016, the White House would've been a shoe-in with Kasich or Rubio, who are both stronger GE candidates than Romney.  It's a crap shoot with Trump or Cruz.  
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You forgot something - Hillary is white.

 
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