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***Official METAVERSE Thread*** Latest: A real life wedding at Taco Bell in the Metaverse (1 Viewer)

Leeroy Jenkins said:
Nathan R. Jessep said:
Boston Consulting Group advises industry giants on how they see the landscape shifting. They're telling them it's shifting towards the metaverse. Pretty thorough explanation here:

www.bcg.com

How the Metaverse Will Remake Your Strategy

The metaverse is already a big part of business. It will only become more central.
www.bcg.com
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Most of that isn’t what people think of when you say Metaverse though.
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That article is bs, in the bottom of the second paragraph they are trying to state that the metaverse is a machine learning with multiple data sets

If that is the case I am a metaverse expert, I was doing that ~3-4 years ago :lol:


In the case of consumers, the result might be a virtual-reality (VR) gaming platform, while for business it could be a machine-learning algorithm that incorporates multiple diverse data sets to provide better insights and improve decision making.
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That is the worst article I have ever read. The metaverse is not the below. It is not anything that the article claims to be. That article is claiming well established technologies and trying to call it the metaverse.

Another great example is below, but there are other examples of this junk in the first ~10 paragraphs of that article.


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It’s the technology that enables emergency services to respond when a phone or watch belonging to an injured person automatically sends an SOS.
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MTskibum said:
That is the worst article I have ever read. The metaverse is not the below. It is not anything that the article claims to be. That article is claiming well established technologies and trying to call it the metaverse.

Another great example is below, but there are other examples of this junk in the first ~10 paragraphs of that article.


WRONG
It’s the technology that enables emergency services to respond when a phone or watch belonging to an injured person automatically sends an SOS.
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You need to reread it without your poo-colored glasses on :lol: I know you are anti-metaverse, but the pieces you are referring to are not claiming to BE the metaverse nor claiming the items they mention are new technology. At the very beginning of that paragraph: "In this sense, the metaverse encompasses broad categories of technology (including computing, connectivity, artificial intelligence, and machine learning) that come together in rich ways to create new and unprecedented value."
 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
MTskibum said:
That is the worst article I have ever read. The metaverse is not the below. It is not anything that the article claims to be. That article is claiming well established technologies and trying to call it the metaverse.

Another great example is below, but there are other examples of this junk in the first ~10 paragraphs of that article.


WRONG
It’s the technology that enables emergency services to respond when a phone or watch belonging to an injured person automatically sends an SOS.
[/quote
Click to expand...
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You need to reread it without your poo-colored glasses on :lol: I know you are anti-metaverse, but the pieces you are referring to are not claiming to BE the metaverse nor claiming the items they mention are new technology. At the very beginning of that paragraph: "In this sense, the metaverse encompasses broad categories of technology (including computing, connectivity, artificial intelligence, and machine learning) that come together in rich ways to create new and unprecedented value."
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I haven’t done a lot of reading on this so maybe I don’t understand yet but it sounds like what they are proposing the Metaverse to be is just the intersection of a lot of existing technology. Is that correct?
 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
MTskibum said:
That is the worst article I have ever read. The metaverse is not the below. It is not anything that the article claims to be. That article is claiming well established technologies and trying to call it the metaverse.

Another great example is below, but there are other examples of this junk in the first ~10 paragraphs of that article.


WRONG
It’s the technology that enables emergency services to respond when a phone or watch belonging to an injured person automatically sends an SOS.
[/quote
Click to expand...
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You need to reread it without your poo-colored glasses on :lol: I know you are anti-metaverse, but the pieces you are referring to are not claiming to BE the metaverse nor claiming the items they mention are new technology. At the very beginning of that paragraph: "In this sense, the metaverse encompasses broad categories of technology (including computing, connectivity, artificial intelligence, and machine learning) that come together in rich ways to create new and unprecedented value."
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Sounds like corporate jargon to me and they clearly are claiming the metaverse to be existing technologies that work just fine without the metaverse.
 
AAABatteries said:
Nathan R. Jessep said:
MTskibum said:
That is the worst article I have ever read. The metaverse is not the below. It is not anything that the article claims to be. That article is claiming well established technologies and trying to call it the metaverse.

Another great example is below, but there are other examples of this junk in the first ~10 paragraphs of that article.


WRONG
It’s the technology that enables emergency services to respond when a phone or watch belonging to an injured person automatically sends an SOS.
[/quote
Click to expand...
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You need to reread it without your poo-colored glasses on :lol: I know you are anti-metaverse, but the pieces you are referring to are not claiming to BE the metaverse nor claiming the items they mention are new technology. At the very beginning of that paragraph: "In this sense, the metaverse encompasses broad categories of technology (including computing, connectivity, artificial intelligence, and machine learning) that come together in rich ways to create new and unprecedented value."
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I haven’t done a lot of reading on this so maybe I don’t understand yet but it sounds like what they are proposing the Metaverse to be is just the intersection of a lot of existing technology. Is that correct?
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I think it will be an intersection yes, but will also involve new technologies including enhanced AR and VR, integrated blockchain technologies, etc. This is not a "we are all going to be wearing clunky goggles" game, although that's certainly what some of it is currently. This is going to be, IMHO, a broader way to communicate and transact in general. Person to person, business to business and business to consumer (and vice versa). And for the record, I don't think a large portion of it is going to happen for another 3-5 years. That said, I don't think the clunky goggles and gamer nerds aren't going away either for the time being.
 
The metaverse is hot garabage.

This will eventually all be true but it won’t be called the metaverse and it’s not happening for another 10-15 years at least. The technology isn’t ready.
 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
The metaverse is hot garabage.

This will eventually all be true but it won’t be called the metaverse and it’s not happening for another 10-15 years at least. The technology isn’t ready.
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I just gave you a magic wand. What tech can you dream up that would make this not completely suck.
 
My wife's company (global mega tech/entertainment Corp) is trying to wrap their mind around how to capitalize on the metaverse. Another friend of mine works in marketing and is also trying to get their version of meta to catch on. Based on what I've heard, it's all a fad that won't last on cuz there are so many versions put out by every brand. Yet nobody has a clear vision on what it should be, they just want to make a buck off of it.
It feels NFT's but somehow even worse and more worthless.
 
Was at JBL Fest last week in Vegas and surprisingly day 1’s keynote and panel discussions was metaverse; the keynote was involved with Walmart’s design and also rang the nasdaq bell virtually recently, she’s apparently nicknamed the Godmother of the Metaverse.

I honestly thought the term was just some Facebook thing, not some all encompassing VR/AR world. In the end, after a few hours of presentations and discussions what I came away with it from is: why? I get VR/AR for games, but could not at all comprehend how incorporating into daily life functionality was the slightest enticing/intriguing
 
www.theverge.com

Meta’s VR social network Horizon is too buggy and employees are barely using it

‘We are working on a product that has not found product market fit,” says an exec in a leaked memo.
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com


Meta’s VR social network Horizon Worlds — the company’s flagship “metaverse” app — is suffering from too many quality issues and even the team building it isn’t using it very much, according to internal memos obtained by The Verge.

In one of the memos to employees dated September 15th, Meta’s VP of Metaverse, Vishal Shah, said the team would remain in a “quality lockdown” for the rest of the year to “ensure that we fix our quality gaps and performance issues before we open up Horizon to more users.”
 
any change in that article since Friday when it was last posted in here? :p

To the point though, I certainly don't think Meta has done themselves any favors thus far. Fighting with Google over who's going to be/control THE metaverse? I think they'd both be better served to work together on overall interoperability, since that is the entire point of decentralization, no? I kind of hope some other outside company ends up surpassing both of them to come up with THE metaverse blueprint. As it sits right now, you have all these independent little mini-metaverses (Decentraland, The Sandbox, etc.) not to mention Roblox-verse and Minecraft world. I think the vision most of these large corporations have is that there will be one (or a few perhaps) "main" metaverse(s) that most everything will end up settling into. For another example, you've got fast food restaurants already investing big as well (Wendy's, McDonald's, Chipotle), setting up virtual shops partnered with real-world functionality like ordering food in the metaverse and having it delivered to your home.
 
That one guy said:
Was at JBL Fest last week in Vegas and surprisingly day 1’s keynote and panel discussions was metaverse; the keynote was involved with Walmart’s design and also rang the nasdaq bell virtually recently, she’s apparently nicknamed the Godmother of the Metaverse.

I honestly thought the term was just some Facebook thing, not some all encompassing VR/AR world. In the end, after a few hours of presentations and discussions what I came away with it from is: why? I get VR/AR for games, but could not at all comprehend how incorporating into daily life functionality was the slightest enticing/intriguing
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I think it could be great in a learning setting -- remote learning etc. I also like it for medical school or practicing a surgery before you perform it. But all of these other ideas seem dumb.
 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
That one guy said:
Was at JBL Fest last week in Vegas and surprisingly day 1’s keynote and panel discussions was metaverse; the keynote was involved with Walmart’s design and also rang the nasdaq bell virtually recently, she’s apparently nicknamed the Godmother of the Metaverse.

I honestly thought the term was just some Facebook thing, not some all encompassing VR/AR world. In the end, after a few hours of presentations and discussions what I came away with it from is: why? I get VR/AR for games, but could not at all comprehend how incorporating into daily life functionality was the slightest enticing/intriguing
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I think it could be great in a learning setting -- remote learning etc. I also like it for medical school or practicing a surgery before you perform it. But all of these other ideas seem dumb.
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I wrote an EDA grant last year, successfully, for a nonprofit to use VR to train Opportunity Youth in precision measurement (think entry level into Honeywell or something) and for entry level jobs in semiconductor plants. The for-profit VR company they’ll partner with developed something similar with Lockheed and Lockheed reported higher retention rates and skill assessments with the VR training then they experienced in-person. It’s opening up excellent career paths for kids who don’t go to college for whatever reason and can then be trained remotely (removing lack of transportation as a barrier.)
 
Nathan R. Jessep said:
any change in that article since Friday when it was last posted in here? :p

To the point though, I certainly don't think Meta has done themselves any favors thus far. Fighting with Google over who's going to be/control THE metaverse? I think they'd both be better served to work together on overall interoperability, since that is the entire point of decentralization, no? I kind of hope some other outside company ends up surpassing both of them to come up with THE metaverse blueprint. As it sits right now, you have all these independent little mini-metaverses (Decentraland, The Sandbox, etc.) not to mention Roblox-verse and Minecraft world. I think the vision most of these large corporations have is that there will be one (or a few perhaps) "main" metaverse(s) that most everything will end up settling into. For another example, you've got fast food restaurants already investing big as well (Wendy's, McDonald's, Chipotle), setting up virtual shops partnered with real-world functionality like ordering food in the metaverse and having it delivered to your home.
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That food service stuff only makes sense if you are for some reason in a situation where you literally never take off your metaverse goggles and never want to leave the metaverse.
 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Nathan R. Jessep said:
any change in that article since Friday when it was last posted in here? :p

To the point though, I certainly don't think Meta has done themselves any favors thus far. Fighting with Google over who's going to be/control THE metaverse? I think they'd both be better served to work together on overall interoperability, since that is the entire point of decentralization, no? I kind of hope some other outside company ends up surpassing both of them to come up with THE metaverse blueprint. As it sits right now, you have all these independent little mini-metaverses (Decentraland, The Sandbox, etc.) not to mention Roblox-verse and Minecraft world. I think the vision most of these large corporations have is that there will be one (or a few perhaps) "main" metaverse(s) that most everything will end up settling into. For another example, you've got fast food restaurants already investing big as well (Wendy's, McDonald's, Chipotle), setting up virtual shops partnered with real-world functionality like ordering food in the metaverse and having it delivered to your home.
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That food service stuff only makes sense if you are for some reason in a situation where you literally never take off your metaverse goggles and never want to leave the metaverse.
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Do you have any teenage boys? :lol:
 
Meta announced partnerships today with NBCUniversal and Microsoft. The NBC deal seems like just a deal for branded VR content; the idea of a Dunder-Mifflin metaverse doesn't do anything for me but I'm way outside the target demographic.

The Microsoft deal sounds interesting on paper, especially if you believe in opportunities for VR in the enterprise. MS has seemingly abandoned their Hololens headset project so the Oculus Quest gizmo can substitute in while MS stays in its lane of software and services.

www.theverge.com

Microsoft partners with Meta to bring Teams, Office, Windows, and Xbox to VR

A big partnership for the future of the metaverse.
www.theverge.com www.theverge.com
 
Leeroy Jenkins said:
Nathan R. Jessep said:
any change in that article since Friday when it was last posted in here? :p

To the point though, I certainly don't think Meta has done themselves any favors thus far. Fighting with Google over who's going to be/control THE metaverse? I think they'd both be better served to work together on overall interoperability, since that is the entire point of decentralization, no? I kind of hope some other outside company ends up surpassing both of them to come up with THE metaverse blueprint. As it sits right now, you have all these independent little mini-metaverses (Decentraland, The Sandbox, etc.) not to mention Roblox-verse and Minecraft world. I think the vision most of these large corporations have is that there will be one (or a few perhaps) "main" metaverse(s) that most everything will end up settling into. For another example, you've got fast food restaurants already investing big as well (Wendy's, McDonald's, Chipotle), setting up virtual shops partnered with real-world functionality like ordering food in the metaverse and having it delivered to your home.
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That food service stuff only makes sense if you are for some reason in a situation where you literally never take off your metaverse goggles and never want to leave the metaverse.
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I should have been a bit more specific in my original post as I agree with the training/education aspect of being beneficial

That said, as presented that day the “metaverse” was indeed going to be everywhere and there was a 3 or 4 minute video showcasing what it could all look like…essentially a condensed day in the life of metaverse goggles going from your house to work to grocery store and back continually encountering some level of VR/AR engagement along the way

Will it ever get there? No idea, but no denying the business world would love to find a way to be that in your face (and wallet)
 
Not sure I completely understand the full extent, but it’s not hard to imagine the metaverse taking off. Young people are already glued to their phones, while people of all ages use mind-altering substances to escape reality. And immersive porn surely has a market.

And that’s just recreational users. As others have stated, if nothing else, it seems like a great tool for technical training,

All we need is a better interface, like VR contacts, instead of those stupid googles.
 
I don't know if the metaverse has a future but I bought a Meta Quest 2 a few months ago and VR these days is actually pretty dang amazing, and really really fun. This isn't like the VR in the mall 20 years ago.

Although the headsets are pretty powerful now even as a standalone (don't need to be plugged in to anything while you're using it) I think popularity will be limited until they can get the headsets really small (like putting on a pair of large glasses).

And I think the real big use case may be augmented reality (digital assets overlayed into the real world) as much as VR. The Quest 2 already has a feature where if you double tap the side of the headset it changes your view to the cameras from the device (so passthrough video like you're not wearing the headset), and digital stuff could be overlayed on that. The cameras are awful quality but again that stuff will improve with time as the technology improves. But I can definitely envision a future where you don't have to carry a laptop with you. You just put on a pair of bulkyish glasses and you can spin up a virtual computer to work on right in front of you. It's honestly not that far off, other than the part about shrinking the headset to a pair of bulky glasses.

But yea, got 4 old college buddies together in VR and we played a game of walkabout mini-golf and it was really freaking fun. Not the same as playing a round of golf together but honestly it was pretty dang comparable in terms of the fun that was had.

I've tried the metaverse stuff and it sucked mostly because it's just all 12 year olds running around saying bad words and giggling. But I can see the potential in the tech. The Quest 2 I think is like $299 now and it's really freaking cool.
 
Terminalxylem said:
Not sure I completely understand the full extent, but it’s not hard to imagine the metaverse taking off.
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I definitely don't understand the full extent, but everyone involved with controlling this thing, they have ignored the part where it becomes an integral part of our life, and skipped ahead to monetizing it.

It needs to either be indispensable, which really seems hard to project, or super cool to people. What we have right now is dancing hot sauce packets, so I think maybe indispensable is a better bet.

The issue with indispensible is that do people really want/need to immerse themselves in VR for a meeting? Are people desiring to block out ALL world stimuli to attend a TED talk? Everyone wants to unplug less, this seems like more.
 
massraider said:
Terminalxylem said:
Not sure I completely understand the full extent, but it’s not hard to imagine the metaverse taking off.
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I definitely don't understand the full extent, but everyone involved with controlling this thing, they have ignored the part where it becomes an integral part of our life, and skipped ahead to monetizing it.

It needs to either be indispensable, which really seems hard to project, or super cool to people. What we have right now is dancing hot sauce packets, so I think maybe indispensable is a better bet.

The issue with indispensible is that do people really want/need to immerse themselves in VR for a meeting? Are people desiring to block out ALL world stimuli to attend a TED talk? Everyone wants to unplug less, this seems like more.
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Not sure what the bolded means. Unplug less = more time in the virtual world. How is getting involved with the metaverse unplugging more?

Cell phones have long been considered essential. More and more devices are becoming “smart”. And we’re collectively lazy.

All we need is a streamlined conduit to more immersive technology. FOMO will suffice until it becomes cool, and we’ll eventually convince ourselves it’s indispensable.
 
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Terminalxylem said:
Not sure what the bolded means. Unplug less = more time in the virtual world. How is getting involved with the metaverse unplugging more?
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I mean everyone is trying to unplug less, the Metaverse cranking up is the other direction, so it seems to me the endgame of the Metaverse pushers (Zuckerberg, crypto bros), where we are all online MORE, is swimming upstream from what everyone wants.
 
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