*** Official Milwaukee Brewers 2008 Thread *** (1 Viewer)

[strykerpks]

Come See What's Brewin

 

[Eephus]

Come See What's Brewin

Well, that's three minutes of my life I'll never get back.So it's time for opening day overreaction.

If Gagne can't hold the job, who gets the call? The Brewers have four guys (Riske, Mota, Torres & Turnbow) who have closed before with some level of success.

What is it with the Brewers and catchers? They haven't had an above replacement level receiver since B.J. Surhoff, maybe Matheny if you overlook offense. Lately, they've been renting retreads in Miller, Perez, Estrada and now Kendall. Batting Kendall ninth is a gimmick that does nothing to help hide the hole in the order he causes.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

Come See What's Brewin

Well, that's three minutes of my life I'll never get back.So it's time for opening day overreaction.



If Gagne can't hold the job, who gets the call? The Brewers have four guys (Riske, Mota, Torres & Turnbow) who have closed before with some level of success.

What is it with the Brewers and catchers? They haven't had an above replacement level receiver since B.J. Surhoff, maybe Matheny if you overlook offense. Lately, they've been renting retreads in Miller, Perez, Estrada and now Kendall. Batting Kendall ninth is a gimmick that does nothing to help hide the hole in the order he causes.

I'm betting on Riske, he can pitch, and he has the attitude. I added him to my fantasy team awhile ago on a hunch, and yesterday he did what Gagne coun't. Yes Gagne got $10 Million and they won't give up on him too easily, but Yost needs to win this year, or he may be out, and Gagne will have a short leash in my opinion.As fo the back-up catcher, I really like Mike Rivera, the guy can flat out hit, and has a nice arm. if Kendall can't stay healthy (Which wouldn't surprise me) Rivera will get a chance and may not look back.

 

[larry_boy_44]

what's with the pitcher batting 8th thing?

Is Kendall that bad at the plate?

 

[Eephus]

what's with the pitcher batting 8th thing?Is Kendall that bad at the plate?

Voodoo sabermetrics

 

[strykerpks]

what's with the pitcher batting 8th thing?Is Kendall that bad at the plate?

Voodoo sabermetrics

LB - there's some talk about it in the April 2 Gameday thread. Statistically speaking, Yost is saying the Brewers will score about 30 more runs this year with this method. I'm not 100% sure but I think this is only when Kendall is playing. If Rivera starts, I think he hits 8. @ taking the 1st series against the Cubbies

 

[larry_boy_44]

what's with the pitcher batting 8th thing?Is Kendall that bad at the plate?

Voodoo sabermetrics

LB - there's some talk about it in the April 2 Gameday thread. Statistically speaking, Yost is saying the Brewers will score about 30 more runs this year with this method. I'm not 100% sure but I think this is only when Kendall is playing. If Rivera starts, I think he hits 8. @ taking the 1st series against the Cubbies

I try not to pay too much attention too early 'cuz then I stop watching in August...normally with the Brewers that works out well as we suck really bad by August...But I figure this year I want to still be interested come October, so I need to not pay too much attention now... lol

 

[trader jake]

So far, so good.

Jason Kendall's batting statistics may not match what the C spot has put up last season but his hustle, baseball smarts, and leadership are all important factors for the Brew Crew in 08'. His infield hit and strike out/throwout plays today illustrated it perfectly.

 

[Eviloutsider]

4-1

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

:broom:

 

[boom king]

So far, so good.Jason Kendall's batting statistics may not match what the C spot has put up last season but his hustle, baseball smarts, and leadership are all important factors for the Brew Crew in 08'. His infield hit and strike out/throwout plays today illustrated it perfectly.

yeah, but he throws like a girl.

 

[Tony Danza]

Look good so far, and Yost can get on these guys and remind them that they started off hot last year as well...

 

[strykerpks]

Good win last night. That Cueto kid has some wicked stuff. It was good to see them manufacture runs and Suppan give a good performance. 2 of their 3 runs were a direct result of the pitcher batting 8th. There may be some merit to that strategy after all.

Not quite sure what to make of Gagne yet. It was obvious last season that he isn't and won't be in the form he was a few years ago. He looked good last night except that one pitch to Patterson, but I guess one pitch can kill you in the 9th. Hopefully this doesn't get into his head and he can right the ship. It will be interesting to see how long of a leash Yost has on him and if we start to see more Turnbow/Riske or some combo in save situations.

 

[mr. furley]

Batting Kendall ninth is a gimmick that does nothing to help hide the hole in the order he causes.

he's a lifetime .298 hitter

 

[Eephus]

Batting Kendall ninth is a gimmick that does nothing to help hide the hole in the order he causes.

he's a lifetime .298 hitter

You're not getting 1998-2000 version of Kendall. He only has two seasons with positive OPS+ this century. The power and speed he had when he was an All-Star are long gone. If he can't keep his OPS over .700 this year, he's a drain whether he bats 8th or 9th.

 

[Softballguy]

Batting Kendall ninth is a gimmick that does nothing to help hide the hole in the order he causes.

he's a lifetime .298 hitter

You're not getting 1998-2000 version of Kendall. He only has two seasons with positive OPS+ this century. The power and speed he had when he was an All-Star are long gone. If he can't keep his OPS over .700 this year, he's a drain whether he bats 8th or 9th.

What does his SLG have to do with anything? The number they're concerned with is his OBP, not OPS.

 

[Eephus]

Batting Kendall ninth is a gimmick that does nothing to help hide the hole in the order he causes.

he's a lifetime .298 hitter

You're not getting 1998-2000 version of Kendall. He only has two seasons with positive OPS+ this century. The power and speed he had when he was an All-Star are long gone. If he can't keep his OPS over .700 this year, he's a drain whether he bats 8th or 9th.

What does his SLG have to do with anything? The number they're concerned with is his OBP, not OPS.

If you consider Kendall as an OBP guy (even though his 2007 OBP was .301 ), I agree it makes some sense to bat him 9th instead of 8th. But other negative factors also come into play. Kendall's low AVG and SLG make him a poor RBI guy in the #8 hole, and his very high GIDP rate increases the possibility of having the pitcher lead off the following inning.If he keeps hitting .500 like he has this season, maybe everyone should bat #9. If he reverts back to 2007 form, he's basically a right handed Brian Schneider with less power.

 

[mr. furley]

i was listening to Uecker on 107.5 in my car, walked in to the building, jump to 107.5 online and it's Jim Rome.

wtf

anyone know where i can hear the games on the web?

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

i was listening to Uecker on 107.5 in my car, walked in to the building, jump to 107.5 online and it's Jim Rome.wtf anyone know where i can hear the games on the web?

I don't think you can. I don't think they can stream them as MLB has a licensing thing going on with that. Something like that anyway.....

 

[strykerpks]

Good to see Prince finally get off the schnide and go yard. Hopefully they can take the series against the Reds and come out of this roadtrip above .500.

 

[mr. furley]

i was listening to Uecker on 107.5 in my car, walked in to the building, jump to 107.5 online and it's Jim Rome.wtf anyone know where i can hear the games on the web?

I don't think you can. I don't think they can stream them as MLB has a licensing thing going on with that. Something like that anyway.....

 

[strykerpks]

i was listening to Uecker on 107.5 in my car, walked in to the building, jump to 107.5 online and it's Jim Rome.wtf anyone know where i can hear the games on the web?

I don't think you can. I don't think they can stream them as MLB has a licensing thing going on with that. Something like that anyway.....

From the 620wtmj.com website:

IMPORTANT NOTES ABOUT STREAMING CONTENT:* SPORTS TEAMS RETAIN THEIR OWN INTERNET AUDIO STREAMING RIGHTS. We are not able to stream any sports play-by-play broadcasts. That means you will not be able to hear any Brewers, Bucks, Packers or Badgers games through this site. For information on how to listen to Brewers games on the Internet, visit the Milwaukee Brewers Web site.

 

[mr. furley]

thanks

 

[snorlax]

Gagne is awful.

 

[EZD222]

How did Yovani look?

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

How did Yovani look?

sharp.

 

[strykerpks]

Jesus

 

[Statorama]

I think Turnbow sucks and all, but damn, tonight is brutal to watch. I wouldn't fault the guy for having a complete mental breakdown on the mound soon.

 

[jylly18]

I hope Turnbow, once released, can make a comeback as I think as a baseball player he has gone through too much.

 

[boom king]

 

[strykerpks]

Jesus

You said it man

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

I love Turnbow. The only guy who can make me laugh just by box score numbers.

 

[Statorama]

I hope Turnbow, once released, can make a comeback as I think as a baseball player he has gone through too much.

The Brewers would cut him today if they didn't think that he'd end up as a Dave Duncan reclamation project setting up Isringhausen.When he had that little run of success in his last few appearances, the Brewers should have traded him to some AL team for some minor league Crash Davis type.

 

[boom king]

gallardo apparently took a spill...whats goin on? im listening on the radio...

 

[strykerpks]

gallardo apparently took a spill...whats goin on? im listening on the radio...

Heard it too in the office...he pitched out of the inning though. Tough kid We'll see if it tightens up on him or not.The Brewer blogs made it sound pretty bad. A lot of "blown ACL" claims and such.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

I'm so sick of Sveum running them out of innings as 3B coach. He did it again today, twice.

Those "Contact" plays too, are fine if the ball is hit to the right side, but you CANNOT run on contact with less than 2 outs and a hit to the third baseman!!!!!!

Wayyyy too many times they are running themselves out of innings this year. Stupid stupid stupid.

 

[strykerpks]

I hear ya Dusty. Aggressive baserunning is one thing but they've run themselves out of too many innings.

That being said, nice comeback today.

 

[strykerpks]

Turnbow DFA'd

<H4 class=BlogSubject>Brewers designate Turnbow for assignment</H4><H5 class=BlogAuthor>By Journal Sentinel staff</H5>

Friday, May 2 2008, 03:08 PM

The Milwaukee Brewers today designated relief pitcher Derrick Turnbow for assignment.

In a corresponding move, Joe Dillon was recalled from Class AAA Nashville.

Dillon will be in uniform tonight when the Brewers play the Houston Astros.

Turnbow was an all-star closer for the Brewers in 2006 and pitched well for the most part last season in a set-up role, but has become increasingly unreliable this year. His low point came Wednesday night when Yost sent him to pitch the eighth inning with the Cubs leading, 13-5.

Turnbow was unable to get out of the inning, surrendering six runs on four hits and four walks, forcing Yost to use left-hander Mitch Stetter to get the third out in the 19-5 loss. That meltdown came on the heels of an outing Sunday against Florida in which Turnbow failed to retire any of the three hitters he faced (two walks, single).

The numbers tell the story of how awful Turnbow has been. In eight outings, he is 0-1 with a 15.63 earned run average, allowing 12 hits, 13 walks and 11 runs in 6 1/3 innings. Opponents are batting .414 against him.

Good move here, but probably too little too late. If he denies the assignment they are free of his salary. Otherwise he can work on his game and hopefully raise his trade value.

 

[Power Monster]

Wayyyy too many times they are running themselves out of innings this year. Stupid stupid stupid.

When listening to the Cubs game yesterday in Chicago on the radio- the Cub broadcasters mentioned that Weeks ran thru a stop sign at 3rd base

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

Turnbow DFA'd

<H4 class=BlogSubject>Brewers designate Turnbow for assignment</H4><H5 class=BlogAuthor>By Journal Sentinel staff</H5>

Friday, May 2 2008, 03:08 PM

The Milwaukee Brewers today designated relief pitcher Derrick Turnbow for assignment.

In a corresponding move, Joe Dillon was recalled from Class AAA Nashville.

Dillon will be in uniform tonight when the Brewers play the Houston Astros.

Turnbow was an all-star closer for the Brewers in 2006 and pitched well for the most part last season in a set-up role, but has become increasingly unreliable this year. His low point came Wednesday night when Yost sent him to pitch the eighth inning with the Cubs leading, 13-5.

Turnbow was unable to get out of the inning, surrendering six runs on four hits and four walks, forcing Yost to use left-hander Mitch Stetter to get the third out in the 19-5 loss. That meltdown came on the heels of an outing Sunday against Florida in which Turnbow failed to retire any of the three hitters he faced (two walks, single).

The numbers tell the story of how awful Turnbow has been. In eight outings, he is 0-1 with a 15.63 earned run average, allowing 12 hits, 13 walks and 11 runs in 6 1/3 innings. Opponents are batting .414 against him.

Good move here, but probably too little too late. If he denies the assignment they are free of his salary. Otherwise he can work on his game and hopefully raise his trade value.

I hope he takes the assignment and goes down and gets himself right. He's got good stuff, he just needs to learn another pitch like a slider and get his head straight.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

Wayyyy too many times they are running themselves out of innings this year. Stupid stupid stupid.When listening to the Cubs game yesterday in Chicago on the radio- the Cub broadcasters mentioned that Weeks ran thru a stop sign at 3rd base

I heard this last night, but it seems as though it was speculation and no one said for sure if he really did.It was stupid all the way around. You just got 2 runs to go ahead by 1 in the 9th. if they stop Weeks at 2nd, you now have runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out and Fielder at the plate with Hart on deck.Stupid stupid stupid

 

[Power Monster]

Wayyyy too many times they are running themselves out of innings this year. Stupid stupid stupid.When listening to the Cubs game yesterday in Chicago on the radio- the Cub broadcasters mentioned that Weeks ran thru a stop sign at 3rd base

I heard this last night, but it seems as though it was speculation and no one said for sure if he really did.It was stupid all the way around. You just got 2 runs to go ahead by 1 in the 9th. if they stop Weeks at 2nd, you now have runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out and Fielder at the plate with Hart on deck.Stupid stupid stupid

I agree- I was listening and doing some light reading and I jumped and was like- what in the world was that all about? It was a nice win and that win just sent the Cub fans into a tizzy.

 

[strykerpks]

Turnbow DFA'd

<H4 class=BlogSubject>Brewers designate Turnbow for assignment</H4><H5 class=BlogAuthor>By Journal Sentinel staff</H5>

Friday, May 2 2008, 03:08 PM

The Milwaukee Brewers today designated relief pitcher Derrick Turnbow for assignment.

In a corresponding move, Joe Dillon was recalled from Class AAA Nashville.

Dillon will be in uniform tonight when the Brewers play the Houston Astros.

Turnbow was an all-star closer for the Brewers in 2006 and pitched well for the most part last season in a set-up role, but has become increasingly unreliable this year. His low point came Wednesday night when Yost sent him to pitch the eighth inning with the Cubs leading, 13-5.

Turnbow was unable to get out of the inning, surrendering six runs on four hits and four walks, forcing Yost to use left-hander Mitch Stetter to get the third out in the 19-5 loss. That meltdown came on the heels of an outing Sunday against Florida in which Turnbow failed to retire any of the three hitters he faced (two walks, single).

The numbers tell the story of how awful Turnbow has been. In eight outings, he is 0-1 with a 15.63 earned run average, allowing 12 hits, 13 walks and 11 runs in 6 1/3 innings. Opponents are batting .414 against him.

Good move here, but probably too little too late. If he denies the assignment they are free of his salary. Otherwise he can work on his game and hopefully raise his trade value.

I hope he takes the assignment and goes down and gets himself right. He's got good stuff, he just needs to learn another pitch like a slider and get his head straight.

Fixed. Another pitch comes after he works on his location/control....and even that comes after he gets his fragile psyche fixed.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

gallardo apparently took a spill...whats goin on? im listening on the radio...

Heard it too in the office...he pitched out of the inning though. Tough kid We'll see if it tightens up on him or not.The Brewer blogs made it sound pretty bad. A lot of "blown ACL" claims and such.

An examination in Milwaukee this morning revealed Gallardo suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee in that collision with Chicago's Reed Johnson near first base in the fifth inning. He was placed on the 15-day DL and right-hande Dave Bush was recalled from Class AAA Nashville to replace him.

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&amp...08&id=39150

 

[Redwes25]

Guys who keep close tabs on the Brewers - what is the deal with Weeks. I know he has strikeout issues but any chance he starts hitting with a better average than .200. Great other numbers but that average is killing me.

 

[Dusty Rhodes]

gallardo apparently took a spill...whats goin on? im listening on the radio...

Heard it too in the office...he pitched out of the inning though. Tough kid We'll see if it tightens up on him or not.The Brewer blogs made it sound pretty bad. A lot of "blown ACL" claims and such.

An examination in Milwaukee this morning revealed Gallardo suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee in that collision with Chicago's Reed Johnson near first base in the fifth inning. He was placed on the 15-day DL and right-hande Dave Bush was recalled from Class AAA Nashville to replace him.

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&amp...08&id=39150

Way to keep Gallardo out there and let him pitch 2 more innings after this happened, Yost you friggin idiot.ETA, I know if he knew that at the time he wouldn't have kept him out there. But in listening to the broadcast, they even said it looked horrible. Bad enough that even if the kid said he could stay in (Which he did) there's no way as manager you can keep him in that game after the spill he took. He's too young and there's WAY too much season left to risk further injury.

Yost is an idiot.

 

[meeka]

Guys who keep close tabs on the Brewers - what is the deal with Weeks. I know he has strikeout issues but any chance he starts hitting with a better average than .200. Great other numbers but that average is killing me.

Yeah, he should climb up to about .240. This is Rickie Weeks. He fills the stat sheet, but does not hit for a high average. Nothing new here.

 

[Redwes25]

Guys who keep close tabs on the Brewers - what is the deal with Weeks. I know he has strikeout issues but any chance he starts hitting with a better average than .200. Great other numbers but that average is killing me.

Yeah, he should climb up to about .240. This is Rickie Weeks. He fills the stat sheet, but does not hit for a high average. Nothing new here.

agreed; I knew he was an average killer but was hoping for at least .250 or so, which he did after the all star break last yaer. Hopefully he can pick up the average a little as .200 is brutal.

 

[strykerpks]

gallardo apparently took a spill...whats goin on? im listening on the radio...

Heard it too in the office...he pitched out of the inning though. Tough kid We'll see if it tightens up on him or not.The Brewer blogs made it sound pretty bad. A lot of "blown ACL" claims and such.

An examination in Milwaukee this morning revealed Gallardo suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee in that collision with Chicago's Reed Johnson near first base in the fifth inning. He was placed on the 15-day DL and right-hande Dave Bush was recalled from Class AAA Nashville to replace him.

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&amp...08&id=39150

Damn, thats a tough break for the Crew. They really needed him to fill the #1 spot if/when Sheets tears his labia.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

gallardo apparently took a spill...whats goin on? im listening on the radio...

Heard it too in the office...he pitched out of the inning though. Tough kid We'll see if it tightens up on him or not.The Brewer blogs made it sound pretty bad. A lot of "blown ACL" claims and such.

An examination in Milwaukee this morning revealed Gallardo suffered a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his right knee in that collision with Chicago's Reed Johnson near first base in the fifth inning. He was placed on the 15-day DL and right-hande Dave Bush was recalled from Class AAA Nashville to replace him.

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1&amp...08&id=39150

Damn, thats a tough break for the Crew. They really needed him to fill the #1 spot if/when Sheets tears his labia.

Watching the game on FSN, the camera showed Sheets in the bullpen while Gallardo was shaking off the effects of the collision. I was thinking - why would they show Ben Sheets right now other than to suggest that he would obviously be taking himself out of the game and missing the next two starts after a collision like that? Strangely, it appears Gallardo may have been better off if he had done that.