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What develops through camp and preseason in our offensive backfield, and who will emerge (and into what role), is almost as intriguing to me as who is going to end up starting/being primary rotators in our D-line.
Gotta figure Gruden knows a little bit about him from his QB camp show...presuming Hack on that show...was he?
Interesting. Can anyone confirm that we parted ways with Kenny Hill? UDFA QB out of TCU we signed about a month ago, but was reportedly at the Eagles rookie minicamp on a try-out basis a week or two ago.
TESTIFY!
Good summary, thanks.Moonshine said:
I'm with ya, buddy.
Let the naysayers say what they want about Miller. Its possible the Raiders could have two big steals in this draft with Hurst and Key.
Florio reported he Left Minny w/o a contract. CLE apparently a possibility if he leaves Oakland w/o a contract.
He's visiting the Vikings first which of course his brother plays for. From what I understand he already met with the Vikings and is visiting the Raiders next. He went to school at California and he's from Fresno. I would think he would get more playing time with the Raiders then he would with the Vikings. I'm hoping the draw of getting more playing time which if he plays well could lead to a bigger contract down the road along with the prospect of being close to home will be a bigger draw then the prospect of playing with his brother in Minnesota.
side note....QB`s are big in our league...6 pts for TD`s ...bonus points for yards and long td`s and passing completions
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In 2017 D Carr had 1 away game where he threw for multiple td's(Titans 2). 2016 he had 2 away games with multiple td's
While I admit to being concerned when Gruden was rehired for many of the reasons people have talked about, ad nauseum, since it happened, for the most part every time I look at him, read about him, listen to him etc...
Please let us know what 8th round.pick means relative to other QBs.
Don't take this the wrong way @nightmare but telling me his ADP has zero value because there is no frame of reference. What kind of league does that represent?
99% of posts will be talking about 12 team leagues, 1 point per 10 yards rush/rec, 4 points for a passing TD. PPR in this
Sorry man but we moved along from those averages maybe two decades ago, but I'll call it 10 years to be fair. Nowhere close to 99% of leagues play by those rules, and they entirely ignore keeper and dynasty formats.
Then what exactly is the "average" scoring system. This board is full of old timers who still play by that scoring system
Don't be "done" please. My intent isn't to drive you away. I am simply trying to point out that if you say Carr is going as the 8th, or 18th, QB off the board it helps more people inform their decisions than saying 10th-12th round (or 128th player drafted).
I like to have a Raider to root for as well, but I don't think I'd keep Carr. Some other good options to choose from and there are a lot of good QBs. As others have pointed out you can probably get Carr as the 15th-20th QB off the board.
I believe you made this point last offseason, and it is a sound one. Probably having the discussion in the Oakland Raiders thread is raising the antagonism level a bit.
I think Waldman simply looked at the team, and made an evaluation.
well a lot of the top QB`s are kept by other people so those options are already off the table...then you get the guys who want a good 2nd QB and grab a guy like Carr for insurance fairly early in some cases...as wityh all drafts every league has 1 or 2 guys that grab guys way before their ADP so things dont ''fall into place '' as you would hope
Wow, that's a fantastic analogy, never thought of it that way. Of course, Vermiel is a lot more decorated in terms of his track record -- Coach of the Year across all 4 levels of the sport (high school, junior and Div I college, NFL), brought 3 teams from losing records to playoffs. Pretty emotional guy like Gruden, wears his heart on his sleeve.
I can see Miller making more of an impact in rotation than Martin will in relief for Lynch. And I definitely think Miller has the ability to make much more of an impact long term (but you did say this season, and that's kind of stating the obvious given where both are in their careers).
So do you view Miller as a project? Curious what others think of him. I haven't heard much talk about him being groomed as strictly a LT or if he's capable of winning the RT spot for the time being (since its obviously the weak spot on the Oline.) Then taking over at LT when Penn hangs 'em up.
