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Terminalxylem
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I was thinking along the same lines, though I think they’re roughly equi-pricey.deer valley would like a word.....
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TripleThreat
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this week's fall weather also had me starting to coordinate trips and also kicked off leg burner circuits
Drunken knight
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Daughter’s activities are starting to dominate… with a shortened Christmas break this year. Not seeing many opportunities to break away.
Already looking to rebook a Maui trip due to a lacrosse tournament
Already looking to rebook a Maui trip due to a lacrosse tournament
Drunken knight
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Daughter is a sophomore. We are talking about "what's next?" Wife is leaning towards Capitola (near Santa Cruz). I keep bringing up Italian lakes (many alps are a close enough drive or train). Also possibly Lake Tahoe or back to Summit or Eagle Counties in Colorado
Daughter is a sophomore. We are talking about "what's next?" Wife is leaning towards Capitola (near Santa Cruz). I keep bringing up Italian lakes (many alps are a close enough drive or train). Also possibly Lake Tahoe or back to Summit or Eagle Counties in Colorado
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i booked deer valley a few weeks ago. gotta do that one early, in order to get my secret spot in town. 8 nights, 2300.Booked my first trip of this year, December 9th and 10th at Loveland
Conditions will probably suck, but that is why you keep an old pair of skis around.
1st week in feblooking at booking JH soon with my oldest ski buddy.
wife wants to go to aspen.
and gotta set up some mammoth trips.
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i hear ya! my daughter is a sophomore also. we need to go check out OR and WA. never skied up there. UT appeals to us, just so many places to ski, so close together and a little cheaper than CO. my wife has never skied CO. i've got to get her out there, so she can feels the vibe. so many choices.
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@Drunken knight where do you live? and does your kid ski? i'm always looking for a ski buddy for the kid. it's not as cool to ski with dad anymore. 
she rips too!
she rips too!
Drunken knight
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I think Utah can be a lot easier due to proximity to the airport. Many great options in both States.i hear ya! my daughter is a sophomore also. we need to go check out OR and WA. never skied up there. UT appeals to us, just so many places to ski, so close together and a little cheaper than CO. my wife has never skied CO. i've got to get her out there, so she can feels the vibe. so many choices.
I haven't done OR or Wash either. Whistler once.
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side bar: i confirmed that the pain in my knee is a small tear/burr in my meniscus. also found out that i vaporized the allograft ACL, in the same knee, sometime in the last year? years? gonna address it after the season. i'm 99% positive i skied, at least last year, in this condition. so i should be good. 
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the ease of SLC airport, can't be over stated. it takes the same 6 hours, door to door, to drive to mammoth or fly to UT, and then lyft to the resort.
Drunken knight
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We are in Sonoma County. I taught her at 3. She took a decent break, but enjoys it again. Our last trip was spring break (and we brought her friend). Three of us skied all day, but friend is a newer to it so i had to stay close to her. Music to my ears was at some point my daughter leaning in to say that she wished we had more time together...wanted some more instruction.@Drunken knight where do you live? and does your kid ski? i'm always looking for a ski buddy for the kid. it's not as cool to ski with dad anymore.
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love it! i took mine and 3 of her friends to mammoth for presidents weekend last year. 2 complete newbs and a beginner snowboarder. that was a long day. they only skied the one day.
there was a magical day as well. my kid said, wake me up early, i want to go skiing with you.
she got up without a single grumble, and we skied the hard stuff all day. she even went off on her own at the end of the day, to get in a few more runs. can't ask for much more as a dad.
Drunken knight
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I fully admit that i have a hard time doing a real full day. Like to get up early... no lines... burn the legs and back in for lunch/bar/hottublove it! i took mine and 3 of her friends to mammoth for presidents weekend last year. 2 complete newbs and a beginner snowboarder. that was a long day. they only skied the one day.
there was a magical day as well. my kid said, wake me up early, i want to go skiing with you.
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the first/last chair days are behind me as well. i like to be early and go to about 1:30 with no lunch break. if i break for lunch,
i'm good until 2:30-3
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we are living some odd parallels. wife has family in maui. we go from time to time. they want to go for xmas.
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Kanil
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Been a while since I've been in here. This is a long one so I'll put a TL;DR at the bottom.
We had a Vail trip from Feb 23-28th this year and on the second day, my wife ended up with a burst fracture of one of her vertebra jumping off a cornice. After a 3 hour sled ride down the mountain (she was out past the pommel lift in Mongolia Bowl) with no pain meds, she ended up in emergency surgery at Vail Health.
It's odd to say that you were lucky breaking your back but she was extremely lucky.
First off, the vertebra she broke (L1) is below the spinal column so she wasn't paralyzed and will eventually (probably another year or so) make a full recovery.
Second, we ended up getting one of the best surgeons in the world for this specific injury. He's the surgeon for the US Ski team and had developed a new surgery for this specific injury while he was in the US Air Force after seeing hundreds of these types of injuries caused by IEDs going off underneath vehicles. The new surgery is less invasive and leads to a faster full recovery because it doesn't "kill" as much muscle around the spine as the traditional surgery. Unfortunately, that muscle being alive does make the recovery more painful.
Third, that specific surgeon doesn't normally take "walk-ins" (for lack of a better word). After he got out of the USAF he started working more on patients that have degenerative issues (the old people who you see severely hunched over with a cane) who schedule their surgery months in advance. Luckily, he was writing a text book on this specific surgery and was looking for a trauma case with a person who was younger than 1000 years old to get some pictures of.
And lastly, he wasn't supposed to be working that day but his entire staff had just passed the two weeks from their second Covid shot and were celebrating with a pizza party when my wife was brought in.
The surgery lasted three hours and ended at 6:30PM the evening of Thursday, the 24th. The next morning they had her standing (with a brace and walker) but she could only stand for about 30 seconds before she was too tired (mostly because of all the pain meds she was on). That afternoon, she was shuffling to the bathroom with the help of a walker and someone standing behind her just in case she fell. The morning after (26th) she was able to go to the bathroom on her own and by noon was walking (with a walker) for 20 minutes at a time up and down the hospital hallway.
Incredibly, she was discharged the morning of the 27th. Almost exactly 72 hours after her breaking her back. I stole (with permission) about 20 pillows from both the hospital and the condo we stayed at and made the passenger seat of my Toyota Camry more luxurious than the VIP First Class section of an Al Qatar flight. With her laying in the bed/chair and doped up on every drug you could imagine I white knuckled the 4 hour drive home, trying to avoid every pebble in the road that could remotely cause a bump.
Thankfully, her mom flew in for a few weeks, mostly to help with making sure my kid got fed, got to school, etc... but also to help with my wife. She was an EMT/Paramedic for 20+ years and was a great resource to have around (especially since my wife had daily shots in her stomach). The first days we were back my wife was on 42 different pills a day along with two separate pain pumps (one inserted into each side of her back) with that number rapidly declining as she hated being high and preferred to just deal with the pain. The only things she's still on are 1000MG of Tylenol twice a day and 300mg of Gabapentin before bed to help with nerve pain through the night.
As soon as she was allowed to, she started going to physical therapy and has been crushing it. The PT she does now are legit 1.5 hour workouts (I'm too out of shape to do them myself) and she comes out of them disgustingly sweaty. She's doing every thing from planks, to agility ladders, to that weird balance half-ball, to pushups with her feet suspended a couple feet in the air.
Originally, the doctor told us she would most likely have to have the hardware removed within 12-18 months. Unfortunately, with her going back to work (she's a teacher who works with small groups of kids K-5 so hunched over on those tiny chairs all day) the rods in her back are rubbing the muscle and causing pain. Again, we got lucky in that after taking another MRI/CT scan, her bone is fully healed and the hardware will be coming out on the 21st. She'll have a 4 week recovery from that surgery but it shouldn't be near as bad as the initial one.
It's been a trial to get through this as a family, but I'm continuously amazed by how strong my wife is. Her pain tolerance and physical strength are only trumped by her mental strength. She's an phenomenal human and while we all would have preferred not to have the accident, it's been incredible watching her get through it.
And the best part is, we all have our ski passes for this season! Her doctor, physical therapists, and herself all expect her to be hitting groomers in December and starting to work on moguls again by the end of this season.
Funny side story: You could tell we were in a hospital in a ski town because when we were told she had a broken vertebra the exact words out of the neurosurgeon's mouth were, "You have a burst fracture in your L1 vertebra, but don't worry, you'll be skiing again this time next year".
TL;DR - Wife broke her back jumping off a cornice in February. Emergency surgery and 7 months of pain and hard work later she's looking at one last surgery to have the hardware taken out later this month. She's incredible, and is recovered enough to ski this season (although not as hard as she normally would).
We had a Vail trip from Feb 23-28th this year and on the second day, my wife ended up with a burst fracture of one of her vertebra jumping off a cornice. After a 3 hour sled ride down the mountain (she was out past the pommel lift in Mongolia Bowl) with no pain meds, she ended up in emergency surgery at Vail Health.
It's odd to say that you were lucky breaking your back but she was extremely lucky.
First off, the vertebra she broke (L1) is below the spinal column so she wasn't paralyzed and will eventually (probably another year or so) make a full recovery.
Second, we ended up getting one of the best surgeons in the world for this specific injury. He's the surgeon for the US Ski team and had developed a new surgery for this specific injury while he was in the US Air Force after seeing hundreds of these types of injuries caused by IEDs going off underneath vehicles. The new surgery is less invasive and leads to a faster full recovery because it doesn't "kill" as much muscle around the spine as the traditional surgery. Unfortunately, that muscle being alive does make the recovery more painful.
Third, that specific surgeon doesn't normally take "walk-ins" (for lack of a better word). After he got out of the USAF he started working more on patients that have degenerative issues (the old people who you see severely hunched over with a cane) who schedule their surgery months in advance. Luckily, he was writing a text book on this specific surgery and was looking for a trauma case with a person who was younger than 1000 years old to get some pictures of.
And lastly, he wasn't supposed to be working that day but his entire staff had just passed the two weeks from their second Covid shot and were celebrating with a pizza party when my wife was brought in.
The surgery lasted three hours and ended at 6:30PM the evening of Thursday, the 24th. The next morning they had her standing (with a brace and walker) but she could only stand for about 30 seconds before she was too tired (mostly because of all the pain meds she was on). That afternoon, she was shuffling to the bathroom with the help of a walker and someone standing behind her just in case she fell. The morning after (26th) she was able to go to the bathroom on her own and by noon was walking (with a walker) for 20 minutes at a time up and down the hospital hallway.
Incredibly, she was discharged the morning of the 27th. Almost exactly 72 hours after her breaking her back. I stole (with permission) about 20 pillows from both the hospital and the condo we stayed at and made the passenger seat of my Toyota Camry more luxurious than the VIP First Class section of an Al Qatar flight. With her laying in the bed/chair and doped up on every drug you could imagine I white knuckled the 4 hour drive home, trying to avoid every pebble in the road that could remotely cause a bump.
Thankfully, her mom flew in for a few weeks, mostly to help with making sure my kid got fed, got to school, etc... but also to help with my wife. She was an EMT/Paramedic for 20+ years and was a great resource to have around (especially since my wife had daily shots in her stomach). The first days we were back my wife was on 42 different pills a day along with two separate pain pumps (one inserted into each side of her back) with that number rapidly declining as she hated being high and preferred to just deal with the pain. The only things she's still on are 1000MG of Tylenol twice a day and 300mg of Gabapentin before bed to help with nerve pain through the night.
As soon as she was allowed to, she started going to physical therapy and has been crushing it. The PT she does now are legit 1.5 hour workouts (I'm too out of shape to do them myself) and she comes out of them disgustingly sweaty. She's doing every thing from planks, to agility ladders, to that weird balance half-ball, to pushups with her feet suspended a couple feet in the air.
Originally, the doctor told us she would most likely have to have the hardware removed within 12-18 months. Unfortunately, with her going back to work (she's a teacher who works with small groups of kids K-5 so hunched over on those tiny chairs all day) the rods in her back are rubbing the muscle and causing pain. Again, we got lucky in that after taking another MRI/CT scan, her bone is fully healed and the hardware will be coming out on the 21st. She'll have a 4 week recovery from that surgery but it shouldn't be near as bad as the initial one.
It's been a trial to get through this as a family, but I'm continuously amazed by how strong my wife is. Her pain tolerance and physical strength are only trumped by her mental strength. She's an phenomenal human and while we all would have preferred not to have the accident, it's been incredible watching her get through it.
And the best part is, we all have our ski passes for this season! Her doctor, physical therapists, and herself all expect her to be hitting groomers in December and starting to work on moguls again by the end of this season.
Funny side story: You could tell we were in a hospital in a ski town because when we were told she had a broken vertebra the exact words out of the neurosurgeon's mouth were, "You have a burst fracture in your L1 vertebra, but don't worry, you'll be skiing again this time next year".
TL;DR - Wife broke her back jumping off a cornice in February. Emergency surgery and 7 months of pain and hard work later she's looking at one last surgery to have the hardware taken out later this month. She's incredible, and is recovered enough to ski this season (although not as hard as she normally would).
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Kanil
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She was trying to look cool grabbing her skis and didnt realize there was another ledge right past the cornice until after she was in the air. Because she had squatted to grab her skis off the jump, she had no extension to absorb the compression. Butt to skis as soon as she hit.
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TripleThreat
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oof. glad she's on the mend.
Drunken knight
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Terminalxylem
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Just booked Telluride and Vail. Wife willing, gonna try Park City and J-Hole as well.i booked deer valley a few weeks ago. gotta do that one early, in order to get my secret spot in town. 8 nights, 2300.
looking at booking JH soon with my oldest ski buddy.
wife wants to go to aspen.
and gotta set up some mammoth trips.
Terminalxylem
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Yikes! Was this near that short hike above Outer Mongolia bowl?
Having experienced a tib-fib fracture right off the lift line at Alta, then suffering sans pain meds on the toboggan ~10 minutes down the mountain, I can’t imagine how miserable it must have been from the distant back bowls.
If it helps, I skied my record number of days the following season, a little less than a month.
At my age (50 in Jan) I’ve eliminated all jumps, and am a little more cautious in deep powder. But I still work my way down even EX terrain, so there’s definitely ski life following broken bones.
Kanil
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Yes sir. She took the pommel lift up and then hiked the ~200 yards or so past it.
Oddly enough, last fall she was talking about getting older and if she kept it up she was destined to injure something. She was thinking more along the lines of a knee or shoulder (her shoulder has bothered her for years).
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Kanil
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Thanks for the kind thoughts. I imagine she'll be out there at least by her school's winter break. In the meantime, it'll be me trying to keep up with the 10yo.
Terminalxylem
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I’ve made that hike many times. I’ve also inadvertently launched some cornices when the light is flat. Hopefully she’s back on the lifts again soon.
A loosely related question: have you guys ever skied the side country facing Mongolia Bowl? There are designated entry points from Blue Sky, which must funnel into the same catwalk exiting Mongolia/Siberia Bowls. I’ve always wanted to try it, but didn’t want to get involved with too long of a hike out.
TripleThreat
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Has anyone taken an avy course? I've signed up for the AIARE 1 over Christmas break (chose then so I can be in the snow while avoiding the crowded lifts) and I'm kinda excited about it.
Terminalxylem
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Nope, but read a bit, and would be interested to hear your experience. I’d like to ski Silverton some day.
TripleThreat
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I'll check back in after. Read someone's take that they'd wished they'd Tremper's Staying Alive in avalanche terrain prior, so I'm following that advice.
MTskibum
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Nope. In my 20's my group barely knew how to use our transceivers, the only reason we had them is because they were required to duck under the ropes. We were young and dumb.
Years after I moved away one of the group did die to an avalanche.
Those days are behind me now, I am content skiing inbounds.
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MTskibum
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Booked another ski trip, Steamboat springs in March. I had to book this one a long ways out because it is during spring break. It should be fun, I have never been there.
I booked a 1 day private and a half day public lesson for my 6 year old. I also plan on taking her skiing in April at Loveland, assuming they still have a ski school open at that time. I think 3 days is enough for her to start learning.
The 4 year old is not going to ski yet. But My wife and him can go swimming in the hotsprings, sledding, or something. I will need to search for more activities as it gets closer.
I booked a 1 day private and a half day public lesson for my 6 year old. I also plan on taking her skiing in April at Loveland, assuming they still have a ski school open at that time. I think 3 days is enough for her to start learning.
The 4 year old is not going to ski yet. But My wife and him can go swimming in the hotsprings, sledding, or something. I will need to search for more activities as it gets closer.
Drunken knight
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daughter wants to get a few trips in talking about a long weekend in dec. I don’t love dec skiing… hit and miss.
I think we are going to bring her bf who doesn’t ski or board. Probably put him in a half day lesson, ski with daughter…. Then the three of us can see how much longer we can go together
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just booked the 1st week of the year, ski in/out, at mammoth. my sister and her kids are coming with us. so f'ing stoked!!
Terminalxylem
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Hey, I was invited to join a friend in MT at the end of December. Any experience with Bridger Bowl? In general, how are conditions around that time?
I haven’t committed yet, as I expect the snow and temps might not be ideal.
Terminalxylem
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Also, I skied the best snow ever at Steamboat. While I don’t love the mountain, it’s hard to beat the ethereal “champagne powder” when it is knee to waist deep.
My stupid girlfriend at the time made me come in early, after she concussed herself. Shoulda known better than to date a snowboarder.
MTskibum
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Bridger bowl is where I always had my season pass, it used to be a great little hill although reports I have heard recently is that it can get too crowded.
December can be hit or miss, hopefully the whole of Rockies starts getting snow.
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first major storm since oct has arrived
Mookie
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Sorry to not see this sooner. I took the AIARE Avy 1 course a few years back and have since taken several refreshers. I've been more focused on the backcountry the last few years due to COVID and it being easier on my knees. It's a great course but it also scares the Hell out of you.
The main takeaway I got from it is (1) stay off steeps (anything greater than 30 degrees as that's is where most deadly slides happen); and (2) choose who you ski with carefully (avoid chargers, showoffs, and large groups as they are prone to bad decision-making). Skiing in the backcountry is awesome but it needs a healthy dose of respect.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
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Looking to plan a trip to Killington in Jan or Feb It will be the wife, our two kids and myself. In a perfect world there will be a hot tub and a fireplace.
Is that possible?
Is that possible?
Redwes25
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I would search on Airbnb as soon as possible. If trying for Presidents’ Day week doubt you will have much look for the hot tub but imagine you can find for other weeks.
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wilked
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Joke…. The above comment is right tho, demand is way up and supply is down, you’ll need to pony up some extra and look hard
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