Drunken knight
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going to be a lean year for ski trips
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going to be a lean year for ski trips
Terminalxylem
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Feb 9-16 at Revelstoke…when is Chamonix?
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
What do I owe for revelstoke? And do you want the chalet with the private chef?
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
I’m more of a yurt and PB & J kinda guy.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
works for me
⚡DEADHEAD⚡
Footballguy
Raining in the Bay Area. Unusual for this time of year. Maybe a sign of a good winter? One can hope...
Drunken knight
Footballguy
Redwes25
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Looks like the winter weather is getting started out west. Link below to a blog that I follow which covers mountains across the country. Mostly a focus out west but he does cover NE on occasion. He has it dumping basically everywhere for the next week or so with some huge numbers for Mammoth and Tahoe area.
christomer.com
Blog
The official blog of meteorologist Chris Tomer featuring interesting weather, expert-level forecasting, guest blogs, and new perspectives.
christomer.com
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DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
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Mammoth was off the chain this week. 4=5 feet fell 2 weeks ago. And the weather has held. The snow was unbelievable for this time of year. More or less, the entire mountain was open. SO. MUCH. FUN!!
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Just scheduled 10 days in Japan in Jan, so hopefully they get early snow, too.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
Sweet! Where you headed?
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Good question. Having never been there, Japan is a pretty confusing place to ski. There's like a bazillion mountains/resorts. We ended up booking nearly a week at Niseko United, staying at the Grand Hirafu Resort. It looks like we'll have access to 4 resorts via lifts or shuttles. Then we'll ski 3 days at Rusutsu.
Both places are supposed to benefit from "Japow", and have a decent variety of terrain, by Japanese standards. We also wanted to bathe in hot springs with the snow monkeys, but sadly, they're more prevalent elsewhere (near worse ski resorts, as far as I can tell).
Any ski guys have experience in Japan?
We still need to book our flights to Revelstoke in Feb. I failed to convince my wife to stay more than a week in Canada, but as long as I've gone to the trouble to lug my skis across the border, was debating extending my time with a solo week at Whistler. Exchange rates may be too good to pass up.
DA RAIDERS
Footballguy
2 awesome trips. I’ll need a report on both!
I’m waiting for the owners to release their time shares for my secret spot in park city.
Headed back to mammoth 1/1 for a week.
I’m waiting for the owners to release their time shares for my secret spot in park city.
Headed back to mammoth 1/1 for a week.
massraider
Footballguy
DA RAIDERS
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When it’s warm sure. But if it’s cold, the difference is nominal.
Any opinions on whether a day trip for first-timers is more fun skiing or snowboarding? I realized that one part of raising my kids that I've neglected so far is skiing. I used to be an intermediate-ish skiier, but have never gone snowboarding. Likely to bring them this winter, but for only one day, and I want to optimize for a fun day. I don't really have a sense of how quickly most people get the hang of snowboarding.
Probably will do it at one of the ski areas in the Poconos if that makes any difference.
Probably will do it at one of the ski areas in the Poconos if that makes any difference.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
Man you know how the first day works. It’s hell. Make sure to have extra gloves and plenty of butt padding.
All depends on the individual as far as the learning curve. I don’t know this to be a fact but I’d assume skateboarders prolly have a leg up.
MTskibum
Footballguy
Skiing and your kids should take lessons. You can become a beginner skier easier than a beginner snowboarder. It is easier to snowplow down a green than to learn how to turn toe edge on a snowboard.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Absolutely get lessons. And skis will do better on the icy crud out east.
Just make sure the kids are warm, dry, and their boots fit properly.
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skiing is easier at first. get lessons. have fun
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I learned to snowboard at 44. No prior ski/board experience to speak of, but skated a few years as a kid. My wife learned along with me. She did not grow up an athlete. Our kids were taking ski lessons at age 3 and 5 while we took snowboard lessons.
Took somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 lesson days for me to get down a green with heel and toe turns (on the ugly side). Lots of falls, some at speed. Catching an edge sucks. By the end of the season, maybe 10 days on the mountain, I was comfortable on greens. I was on blues quickly the following season.
My wife took a bit longer. The toe turn took her about 2 years to get down. It's a critical piece of riding.
Kids were a piece of cake. They're basically rubber. Fall, bend, get back up, fall, bend, get back up. Only the deep stuff can be a challenge for them.
Maybe helpful, maybe not. Snowboarding takes more patience, I suspect. I think the saying goes, skiing is easy to learn, harder to master; snowboarding is hard to learn, easy to master.
Took somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 lesson days for me to get down a green with heel and toe turns (on the ugly side). Lots of falls, some at speed. Catching an edge sucks. By the end of the season, maybe 10 days on the mountain, I was comfortable on greens. I was on blues quickly the following season.
My wife took a bit longer. The toe turn took her about 2 years to get down. It's a critical piece of riding.
Kids were a piece of cake. They're basically rubber. Fall, bend, get back up, fall, bend, get back up. Only the deep stuff can be a challenge for them.
Maybe helpful, maybe not. Snowboarding takes more patience, I suspect. I think the saying goes, skiing is easy to learn, harder to master; snowboarding is hard to learn, easy to master.
massraider
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What I always tell novices is that toe turns aren't hard, your mind is rejecting the idea of leaning over your toes, down the mountain. It feels like you are gonna pitch down the mountain.
Once you accept you aren't going headlong over the front of your boards down the slope, learning just snaps into place.
dkp993
Footballguy
Yes and no. At the very beginning (like day or 2) but progression on a board is quicker.
dkp993
Footballguy
Have rode basically everything from Denver west (minus Montana). Mammoth is my favorite mountain after whistler. Epic mountainWhen it’s warm sure. But if it’s cold, the difference is nominal.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
My whole family is from Florida and I live in Northern Utah now, so I get a ton of 1st time skiers/snowboarders through here.
The cliche is pretty simple, and accurate. Skiing is easier to learn, but harder to master. Snowboarding is harder to learn, but easier to master.
The first few days of boarding SUCK. Not fun. Whereas skiing you can pretty much have fun right away. But once you're a few days into boarding you're pretty much a boarder. 20 days into skiing you still have a LONG ways to go to become a really confident skiier.
One nice thing about boarding is once you are even a LITTLE bit confident you can pretty much get down anything. My 4th or 5th day snowboarding I could side-slip down a super steep black diamond I got in over my head on. But even dozens of days skiing, if you get stuck on something steeper than you're comfortable with, you can really freeze up and feel like there is no way for you to get to the bottom.
Regardless, I still prefer skiing because I like the mobility of it. All my friends are boarders and I've lost count of the number of times I've had to drag them through a flat area or wait for them to unstrap as we headed over to somewhere cool.
Basically you can't go wrong. For little kids it's less daunting to let them snowboard first, if for no other reason because when they're learning they'll fall down before they get going too fast, whereas kid skiiers hit this just-past-newbie stage where they can stand up pretty easily, but they can't reliably stop when they get on stuff steeper than the bunny hill. So then you have to worry about your kid becoming an out of control rocket projectile that breaks someone's leg, unless you're a competent skier yourself and can stay near them and grab them if they get out of control.
Also kids can get up from a fall on a board easily. Whereas getting up from a ski fall is often a 15 minute, aided affair to get their skis back on depending on the terrain the fall happened on.
The cliche is pretty simple, and accurate. Skiing is easier to learn, but harder to master. Snowboarding is harder to learn, but easier to master.
The first few days of boarding SUCK. Not fun. Whereas skiing you can pretty much have fun right away. But once you're a few days into boarding you're pretty much a boarder. 20 days into skiing you still have a LONG ways to go to become a really confident skiier.
One nice thing about boarding is once you are even a LITTLE bit confident you can pretty much get down anything. My 4th or 5th day snowboarding I could side-slip down a super steep black diamond I got in over my head on. But even dozens of days skiing, if you get stuck on something steeper than you're comfortable with, you can really freeze up and feel like there is no way for you to get to the bottom.
Regardless, I still prefer skiing because I like the mobility of it. All my friends are boarders and I've lost count of the number of times I've had to drag them through a flat area or wait for them to unstrap as we headed over to somewhere cool.
Basically you can't go wrong. For little kids it's less daunting to let them snowboard first, if for no other reason because when they're learning they'll fall down before they get going too fast, whereas kid skiiers hit this just-past-newbie stage where they can stand up pretty easily, but they can't reliably stop when they get on stuff steeper than the bunny hill. So then you have to worry about your kid becoming an out of control rocket projectile that breaks someone's leg, unless you're a competent skier yourself and can stay near them and grab them if they get out of control.
Also kids can get up from a fall on a board easily. Whereas getting up from a ski fall is often a 15 minute, aided affair to get their skis back on depending on the terrain the fall happened on.
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I'm trying to learn the toe turn again riding switch. It's frightening. I may pass.
MTskibum
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I am yet to teach my kids how to ski but this is a good point. I always assumed that they would be better off learning skiing but i will need to rethink that with my son.
I am hoping my daughter gets 2 days this year and my son 1, I had private lessons booked for them last year but they missed it due to travel issues.
MTskibum
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I can snowboard down double blacks, even moderately difficult ones, but i can't ride switch and I can't go that fast. I go about as fast as an intermediate boarder because of how scared i am of catching an edge at speed.
This makes boarding not as much fun for me so i rarely board anymore even though most the people i go with do.
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He’s asking about day 1
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Mammoth is ridiculous. So much snow. So awesome
Drunken knight
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Tahoe in less than two weeks 
Dickies
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Just skied Sugar Bowl last weekTahoe in less than two weeks
Drunken knight
Footballguy
Love sugar bowl.Just skied Sugar Bowl last weekTahoe in less than two weeks
Staying near donner… North Star. @northern exposure
Hope the abnb doesn’t cancel on us.
Dickies
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Not my favorite mountain to ski, but the mountain biking in the summer is legit.Love sugar bowl.Just skied Sugar Bowl last weekTahoe in less than two weeks
Staying near donner… North Star. @northern exposure
Hope the abnb doesn’t cancel on us.
Drunken knight
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Family friendly and we like grabbing drinks and a bite at the ritz.Not my favorite mountain to ski, but the mountain biking in the summer is legit.Love sugar bowl.Just skied Sugar Bowl last weekTahoe in less than two weeks
Staying near donner… North Star. @northern exposure
Hope the abnb doesn’t cancel on us.
DA RAIDERS
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i like evo.com.
Terminalxylem
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Have you been to Jackson Hole?Have rode basically everything from Denver west (minus Montana). Mammoth is my favorite mountain after whistler. Epic mountainWhen it’s warm sure. But if it’s cold, the difference is nominal.
dkp993
Footballguy
I have, epic. Still prefer Mammoth* and Whistler. But it’s not far off.Have you been to Jackson Hole?Have rode basically everything from Denver west (minus Montana). Mammoth is my favorite mountain after whistler. Epic mountainWhen it’s warm sure. But if it’s cold, the difference is nominal.
*though I will admit that I lived in Mammoth for 2 years and probably have over 400 days on the mountain. That probably weights into my decision.
Terminalxylem
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I‘ve only been to Mammoth once, but recall it being pretty good. I specifically remember a big cornice off the summit that I skied around. I’m a better skier now, so maybe I should revisit it , and see if I can muster the courage to drop in. Of course I say the same thing about Corbet’s in J-Hole…I have, epic. Still prefer Mammoth and Whistler. But it’s not far offHave you been to Jackson Hole?Have rode basically everything from Denver west (minus Montana). Mammoth is my favorite mountain after whistler. Epic mountainWhen it’s warm sure. But if it’s cold, the difference is nominal.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Is this the same grandson getting a Jeep, and going surfing? Lucky kid.
massraider
Footballguy
Yes, EBay.
Thing about this hobby, there is a massive amount of single year use. People use things three times, and get rid of it. There is never a shortage of barely used equipment people want to sell.
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If you’re talking to me, yes. A few times. Great mountain. Don’t love the layoutHave you been to Jackson Hole?Have rode basically everything from Denver west (minus Montana). Mammoth is my favorite mountain after whistler. Epic mountainWhen it’s warm sure. But if it’s cold, the difference is nominal.
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For those that know mammoth, cornice is like the the old days. Not groomed with a massive cornice(hence the name) at the top. The snow is coming in so fast and furious they don’t really have time to groom it.
massraider
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This is like the only place on the planet this is happening, and it's getting annoying.
Drunken knight
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My $. 02 on buying…
If you know what you want, try a local ski shop for used, browse fb market, eBay, Craig’s list.
If you are uncertain but know you’ll take a good amount of days in… see if you local shops offer some type of season demo deal where you can sample and return any time during the season… then purchase what you like in the off season.
If you know what you want, try a local ski shop for used, browse fb market, eBay, Craig’s list.
If you are uncertain but know you’ll take a good amount of days in… see if you local shops offer some type of season demo deal where you can sample and return any time during the season… then purchase what you like in the off season.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Wait, are you saying they groom the cornice now? Is/was there a run called cornice? I skied there almost 20 years ago, so don’t remember much.
Also, what don’t you like about Jackson HoLe’s layout?
....and I may have been talked out of the jeep.Similar threads
