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**OFFICIAL** Skyfall Thread (1 Viewer)

can't wait.

last bond was a little on the weak side after a great casino royale movie.

I've got high hopes, but with the bond franchise, you never know whether you are going to walk into the next Goldfinger or Goldeneye or Spy Who Loved Me, or the next Die Another Day or Diamonds Are Forever.

 
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yeah it's not bad.. very classic-ish like a weaker version of goldfinger or diamonds are foreverI'm definitely anticipating this coming out. Previews seems good. I'm hoping for an improvement from the last one

 
Early reviews have been over the moon, many calling it the best Bond movie to date.Here's something from Roger Moore:

"I was invited on Saturday morning to a private screening of Skyfall. Now, I have always said that the best Bond was obviously Sean [Connery], but I’m happy to say when Skyfall is released on October 26, it is going to be the biggest [bond film] there has ever been in the cinema, and he [Daniel Craig] will go down as the best Bond in history. It is fantastic."
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'Kumerica said:
Early reviews have been over the moon, many calling it the best Bond movie to date.Here's something from Roger Moore:

"I was invited on Saturday morning to a private screening of Skyfall. Now, I have always said that the best Bond was obviously Sean [Connery], but I’m happy to say when Skyfall is released on October 26, it is going to be the biggest [bond film] there has ever been in the cinema, and he [Daniel Craig] will go down as the best Bond in history. It is fantastic."
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I respect the hell out of Roger Moore, my favorite bond and star of my favorite Bond film - the spy who loved me.But that's either hyperbole or they paid him well.I hope the film is great, but that statement is really over the top.. no movie can be THAT great, can it? to just eclipse all of Moore's work, classics like From Russia with Love and Goldfinger?wow.
 
looking forward to this, getting great reviews...

craig might be best bond since connery...

connery for me definitive bond... he looked like he could strangle somebody with his bare hands for real...

moore seemed more like an actor playing a part... good comic timing at delivering one liners, but imo not as convincing physically...

because of the 50th anniversary (dr. no released '62), got the bond 50 blu-ray set, 22 movies, through quantum of solace (not including casino royale, a parody, or never say never again, a remake of thunderball, neither part of eon production canon)... between bond marathons, i saw some of these in HEAVY rotation (i think the network term is stripped :) ), but some not as much, so it was interesting to see some of lesser shown ones (like for your eyes only, on her majesty's secret service, etc.)...

you only live twice has become one of my favorite connery's...

after rewatching them, i thought connery's were more "serious", moore's became more farcical...

i realize there were elements even in the source material that were over the top, but ian fleming was really a spy (assistant to head of naval intelligence, formed a commando squad), and i thought connery captured the dark, menacing undercurrent better than moore (craig very good, too, liked the casino royale reboot)...

bond fun fact... reportedly when tom jones hit the sustained high note at end of thunderball theme song, he almost passed out! :)

* after watching the series, despite the cavalcade of bonds, there was impressive continuity between the series... certainly through connery and moore, they would tend to use same writers, few stock directors, john barry's excellent music added a lot... the spectacular, death defying stunts were a big recurring theme...

 
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Remember that Roger Moore was James Bond in the 70's and early 80's.. that entire era was a little less serious and a little more hilarious.

Those bond movies fit their era.

It's only been in the last 10 years that we as audiences have demanded really dark, gritty, intense movies (Craig's Bond, Bourne, the newest Dark Knight movies, etc)

So viewing the Moore Bond's in this era makes them look really bad.

 
Just back from the midnight IMAX screening.

Skyfall is excellent. If you liked Casino Royale, you'll like this a lot. It's a bit darker, but has a lot of wit to it as well.

The cinematography was gorgeous, Craig, Dench, and Fiennes were great, and Bardem was remarkable.

Great film. Can't wait to see it again.

 
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just got back from skyfall - i thought it was very good.

a bit slow at times if i had to get critical (they probably could've taken 10 min off the running time)

but great movie, great homage to past bond movies, more insight into the character that is Bond, some cool ways to integrate some characters of old back into play.

i'd say go ahead and pay up for the imax, it looked really good

 
'Dentist said:
just got back from skyfall - i thought it was very good.a bit slow at times if i had to get critical (they probably could've taken 10 min off the running time)but great movie, great homage to past bond movies, more insight into the character that is Bond, some cool ways to integrate some characters of old back into play.i'd say go ahead and pay up for the imax, it looked really good
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going tomorrow. :yes:
 
I enjoyed and recommend it.

The last 3rd could be a bit faster and pack a bigger punch but Daniel Craig is my favorite 007 and Bardiem is great. :thumbup:

 
'Dentist said:
just got back from skyfall - i thought it was very good.a bit slow at times if i had to get critical (they probably could've taken 10 min off the running time)
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Saw it today, thought it was really good. I walked away thinking that it wasn't really that action packed, but then thinking through it, there was a LOT of action scenes (and they were well done.) So I think your comment about it being a bit slow was what made me feel that way, but I didn't think it necessarily detracted from the movie. I really enjoyed it, but not sure I'd put it at the top of the Bond movies I've seen (and I really need to go back and watch some of the older ones that I haven't seen yet.)
 
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'Dentist said:
just got back from skyfall - i thought it was very good.a bit slow at times if i had to get critical (they probably could've taken 10 min off the running time)
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Saw it today, thought it was really good. I walked away thinking that it wasn't really that action packed, but then thinking through it, there was a LOT of action scenes (and they were well done.) So I think your comment about it being a bit slow was what made me feel that way, but I didn't think it necessarily detracted from the movie. I really enjoyed it, but not sure I'd put it at the top of the Bond movies I've seen (and I really need to go back and watch some of the older ones that I haven't seen yet.)
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Definitely one of the best. Nice balance of action, story, characters and humor. Great cast.
 
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Better than Quantum of Solace, but I wasn't a big fan. The cinematography is gorgeous (almost as gorgeous as Bérénice), but the plot is ludicrous. Javier Bardem's plan is a silly Rube Goldberg machine that's more in line with the Bond villains of old than this new, more grounded approach they're taking. Bond's strategy for the final showdown was equally unbelievable. Shut himself in an isolated house with virtually no weapons to take on Bardem and his gang? That's the best he could think up? The action scenes weren't particularly creative either.

Either a 6 or a 7.

 
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'Abrantes said:
Better than Quantum of Solace, but I wasn't a big fan. The cinematography is gorgeous (almost as gorgeous as Bérénice), but the plot is ludicrous. Javier Bardem's plan is a silly Rube Goldberg machine that's more in line with the Bond villains of old than this new, more grounded approach they're taking. Bond's strategy for the final showdown was equally unbelievable. Shut himself in an isolated house with virtually no weapons to take on Bardem and his gang? That's the best he could think up? The action scenes weren't particularly creative either.

Either a 6 or a 7.
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I wont argue that many plot aspects were ludicrous, but by that logic arent 95% of action movies or actually most fiction stories also stupid? What bond movie doesnt have a ridiculous plot?

 
'Abrantes said:
Better than Quantum of Solace, but I wasn't a big fan. The cinematography is gorgeous (almost as gorgeous as Bérénice), but the plot is ludicrous. Javier Bardem's plan is a silly Rube Goldberg machine that's more in line with the Bond villains of old than this new, more grounded approach they're taking. Bond's strategy for the final showdown was equally unbelievable. Shut himself in an isolated house with virtually no weapons to take on Bardem and his gang? That's the best he could think up? The action scenes weren't particularly creative either.

Either a 6 or a 7.
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THISI really love Craig as Bond and he was terrific as Bond once again in this movie, without a doubt.

However, I had a hell of a time trying to "suspend my disbelief" in dealing with the stupid plot so I could completely enjoy this film.

If you are able to approach Skyfall with the same mentality as you would going into a typical summertime superhero movie-then you should be fine. The acting, the action, and the cinematography are all terrific.

 
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'Abrantes said:
Better than Quantum of Solace, but I wasn't a big fan. The cinematography is gorgeous (almost as gorgeous as Bérénice), but the plot is ludicrous. Javier Bardem's plan is a silly Rube Goldberg machine that's more in line with the Bond villains of old than this new, more grounded approach they're taking. Bond's strategy for the final showdown was equally unbelievable. Shut himself in an isolated house with virtually no weapons to take on Bardem and his gang? That's the best he could think up? The action scenes weren't particularly creative either.

Either a 6 or a 7.
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THISI really love Craig as Bond and he was terrific as Bond once again in this movie, without a doubt.

However, I had a hell of a time trying to "suspend my disbelief" in dealing with the stupid plot so I could completely enjoy this film.

If you are able to approach Skyfall with the same mentality as you would going into a typical summertime superhero movie-then you should be fine. The acting, the action, and the cinematography are all terrific.
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Name 2 james bond movies you like
 
'Dentist said:
'geoff8695 said:
'Abrantes said:
Better than Quantum of Solace, but I wasn't a big fan. The cinematography is gorgeous (almost as gorgeous as Bérénice), but the plot is ludicrous. Javier Bardem's plan is a silly Rube Goldberg machine that's more in line with the Bond villains of old than this new, more grounded approach they're taking. Bond's strategy for the final showdown was equally unbelievable. Shut himself in an isolated house with virtually no weapons to take on Bardem and his gang? That's the best he could think up? The action scenes weren't particularly creative either.

Either a 6 or a 7.
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THISI really love Craig as Bond and he was terrific as Bond once again in this movie, without a doubt.

However, I had a hell of a time trying to "suspend my disbelief" in dealing with the stupid plot so I could completely enjoy this film.

If you are able to approach Skyfall with the same mentality as you would going into a typical summertime superhero movie-then you should be fine. The acting, the action, and the cinematography are all terrific.
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Name 2 james bond movies you like
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Point taken - I'm not the hugest Bond fan in the world but here are my favorites:From Russia With Love, Casino Royale, For Your Eyes Only, You Only Live Twice

I realize that most Bond movies are basically fantasy-superhero-spy movies with outlandish villains, wimmens, and plots.

I just usually prefer the ones that are a little more understated and don't go out of there way to strain my imagination past its breaking point.

Obviously my most notable exception is You Only Live Twice. But how can you not love a dormant volcano - rocketship base being assaulted by an army of Bond friendly ninjas. :excited:

Yes it's absolutely ridiculous, but it holds sentimetal value to me since I saw that one as a kid and thought it absolutely rocked.

 
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'Dentist said:
'Abrantes said:
Better than Quantum of Solace, but I wasn't a big fan. The cinematography is gorgeous (almost as gorgeous as Bérénice), but the plot is ludicrous. Javier Bardem's plan is a silly Rube Goldberg machine that's more in line with the Bond villains of old than this new, more grounded approach they're taking. Bond's strategy for the final showdown was equally unbelievable. Shut himself in an isolated house with virtually no weapons to take on Bardem and his gang? That's the best he could think up? The action scenes weren't particularly creative either.

Either a 6 or a 7.
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I wont argue that many plot aspects were ludicrous, but by that logic arent 95% of action movies or actually most fiction stories also stupid? What bond movie doesnt have a ridiculous plot?
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It's perfectly possible to create good fiction which isn't stupid or ridiculous, in spite of extraordinary elements. What bothers me is when the movie feels half-baked.If Bardem knew that M would be answering for her actions at that very moment, why didn't he simply storm the place with his goons (who were already infiltrated, as we saw)? What exactly was the point of him being captured by the MI6? Further, if he was capable of sneaking a bomb into the original MI6 headquarters, how much harder could it have been to get inside on his own? How did he figure out that there would be a subway running at the exact moment after he delivered his quip to Bond in the underground tunnels? Wouldn't it have been more reasonable to place more bombs there? What was the point of the groundskeeper character at Skyfall? Why the bloody heck was he using a flashlight during his escape? The first half of the film was damn good, but the machinations in the latter half felt poorly thought-out.

 
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'Dentist said:
'geoff8695 said:
'Abrantes said:
Better than Quantum of Solace, but I wasn't a big fan. The cinematography is gorgeous (almost as gorgeous as Bérénice), but the plot is ludicrous. Javier Bardem's plan is a silly Rube Goldberg machine that's more in line with the Bond villains of old than this new, more grounded approach they're taking. Bond's strategy for the final showdown was equally unbelievable. Shut himself in an isolated house with virtually no weapons to take on Bardem and his gang? That's the best he could think up? The action scenes weren't particularly creative either.

Either a 6 or a 7.
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THISI really love Craig as Bond and he was terrific as Bond once again in this movie, without a doubt.

However, I had a hell of a time trying to "suspend my disbelief" in dealing with the stupid plot so I could completely enjoy this film.

If you are able to approach Skyfall with the same mentality as you would going into a typical summertime superhero movie-then you should be fine. The acting, the action, and the cinematography are all terrific.
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Point taken - I'm not the hugest Bond fan in the world but here are my favorites:From Russia With Love - probably one of the more realistic ones, so i agree here, and i like that one a lot.

Casino Royale - the poker scenes (which were a major part of the film) were so ridiculous that even someone who wasn't serious about poker would've had to crack up at the insanity... someone into poker like myself almost vomited in the theater. Overall a great movie, but by no means realistic.

For Your Eyes Only - again you did a good job at picking one the slightly less outlandish ones - good job.

You Only Live Twice - you analyzed this one correctly yourself... lol
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'Abrantes said:
'Dentist said:
'Abrantes said:
Better than Quantum of Solace, but I wasn't a big fan. The cinematography is gorgeous (almost as gorgeous as Bérénice), but the plot is ludicrous. Javier Bardem's plan is a silly Rube Goldberg machine that's more in line with the Bond villains of old than this new, more grounded approach they're taking. Bond's strategy for the final showdown was equally unbelievable. Shut himself in an isolated house with virtually no weapons to take on Bardem and his gang? That's the best he could think up? The action scenes weren't particularly creative either.

Either a 6 or a 7.
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I wont argue that many plot aspects were ludicrous, but by that logic arent 95% of action movies or actually most fiction stories also stupid? What bond movie doesnt have a ridiculous plot?
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It's perfectly possible to create good fiction which isn't stupid or ridiculous, in spite of extraordinary elements. What bothers me is when the movie feels half-baked.If Bardem knew that M would be answering for her actions at that very moment, why didn't he simply storm the place with his goons (who were already infiltrated, as we saw)? What exactly was the point of him being captured by the MI6? Further, if he was capable of sneaking a bomb into the original MI6 headquarters, how much harder could it have been to get inside on his own? How did he figure out that there would be a subway running at the exact moment after he delivered his quip to Bond in the underground tunnels? Wouldn't it have been more reasonable to place more bombs there? What was the point of the groundskeeper character at Skyfall? Why the bloody heck was he using a flashlight during his escape? The first half of the film was damn good, but the machinations in the latter half felt poorly thought-out.
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why didn't they just shoot bond when they had him tied up on the island and just end the whole series.

Realistically James Bond should've died about 79 times in his 23 movies but the "villains" never just shot him in the face when they could... instead opting for a different death, from which he always escaped.

I thought it was dumb "M" died (spoiler alert) after going to all the effort to do all the escaping... did she just then at that point lose enough blood to die? that was the worst part of the film to me.

 
:hifive: to dentist

Definitely not trying to rain on the new Bond movie. I really love Craig as Bond and the fact that the franchise is going more gritty and less gadgety these days.

I was extremely psyched to see this movie. Knew I'ld see it opening weekend, which immediately turned into opening night after I heard Adele's "Skyfall" on the radio Friday afternoon.

It's a good movie for what it is, and Bond fans should celebrate and enjoy it. Those like myself that are kind of on the fringe (watch most or all of them but especially dig the Bond movies with Connery and Craig just because they are freakin' cool in the role) might take issue with some of the plot points.

However, as long as Craig continues to sign up for future installments you can count me in as well...

 
'Dentist said:
'Abrantes said:
'Dentist said:
'Abrantes said:
Better than Quantum of Solace, but I wasn't a big fan. The cinematography is gorgeous (almost as gorgeous as Bérénice), but the plot is ludicrous. Javier Bardem's plan is a silly Rube Goldberg machine that's more in line with the Bond villains of old than this new, more grounded approach they're taking. Bond's strategy for the final showdown was equally unbelievable. Shut himself in an isolated house with virtually no weapons to take on Bardem and his gang? That's the best he could think up? The action scenes weren't particularly creative either.

Either a 6 or a 7.
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I wont argue that many plot aspects were ludicrous, but by that logic arent 95% of action movies or actually most fiction stories also stupid? What bond movie doesnt have a ridiculous plot?
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It's perfectly possible to create good fiction which isn't stupid or ridiculous, in spite of extraordinary elements. What bothers me is when the movie feels half-baked.If Bardem knew that M would be answering for her actions at that very moment, why didn't he simply storm the place with his goons (who were already infiltrated, as we saw)? What exactly was the point of him being captured by the MI6? Further, if he was capable of sneaking a bomb into the original MI6 headquarters, how much harder could it have been to get inside on his own? How did he figure out that there would be a subway running at the exact moment after he delivered his quip to Bond in the underground tunnels? Wouldn't it have been more reasonable to place more bombs there? What was the point of the groundskeeper character at Skyfall? Why the bloody heck was he using a flashlight during his escape? The first half of the film was damn good, but the machinations in the latter half felt poorly thought-out.
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why didn't they just shoot bond when they had him tied up on the island and just end the whole series.

Realistically James Bond should've died about 79 times in his 23 movies but the "villains" never just shot him in the face when they could... instead opting for a different death, from which he always escaped.

I thought it was dumb "M" died (spoiler alert) after going to all the effort to do all the escaping... did she just then at that point lose enough blood to die? that was the worst part of the film to me.
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Being an over-the-top supervillain with delusions of grandeur is one thing. Being dumb is something else entirely - particularly when we're led to believe that these are exceptionally bright characters. The Daniel Craig movies are meant to be grittier and more grounded in realism, and have to be assessed as such.I had no problem with Bardem not shooting Bond on the island, since his driving motivation was revenge against M. He had nothing personal against Bond himself. Didn't have a problem with M dying either. It fit the story they wanted to tell, and you could see it coming a mile away with "M"allory showing up early in the film and Judi Dench getting a ton of screen time, with Tennyson and all. The silliness mentioned in my post had nothing to do with that, though.

For the record, I do love Craig as Bond, despite my lukewarm reaction to two of his three films to date.

 
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Hey gents, how bout some spoiler tags in here?
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Pretty safe to assume you should stay out of a movie thread a week or so after it is released if you don't want to be spoiled. I stop opening movie threads for movies I want to see the day they open until I see them, then I'll catch up.
 
Last movie I had seen in the theaters - Avatar.

Needless to say I was pretty fired up when my buddy suggested date night and my wife enthusiastically agreed (Daniel Craig makes her moist). We were running a little late, and my buddy texts asking for ETA. Of course, by the time we get to their house, he lets me know that his wife decided to have a glass of wine while she waited - oh yeah and a ####### hydromorphone, too. She puked her guts out for a half an hour, and we called the date.

I hope you ####ers enjoyed the movie :angry:

 
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I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Wasn't the beginning a bit over the top? How did he survive that?

Favorite line was probably "welcome to Scotland".
 
'17seconds said:
I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Wasn't the beginning a bit over the top? How did he survive that?Favorite line was probably "welcome to Scotland".
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Pretty sure hitting the water from that far up would be just like hitting concrete. So yah, he should be dead there.
:shrug: Just par for the course for a Bond movie though.

 
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'17seconds said:
I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Wasn't the beginning a bit over the top? How did he survive that?Favorite line was probably "welcome to Scotland".
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Pretty sure hitting the water from that far up would be just like hitting concrete. So yah, he should be dead there.
:shrug: Just par for the course for a Bond movie though.

well the problem is...
It was so impossible it had me thinking it was a flash-forward scene. Also, there was something later on that led me to believe the woman who shot him did not grab him out of the water, making it even more confusing.
 
So people are judging Bond films by how "realistic" they are now?

I'd think in general movie theatres would be a rough experience for you given realism as a benchmark.

And yea, spoiler tags are usually a common courtesy. Believe it or not people have not seen the movie a whole "week or so" after it came out.

 
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