ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I mean, if Shanahan is fired someone WILL take the job as interim head coach. You can't exactly turn that down.
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***Official*** Washington Redskins 2013 Thread (1 Viewer)
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dgreen
Footballguy
Why not? I'm not familiar with Interim Head Coach being some great stepping stone to a promotion. Didn't Ray Rhodes turn it down when Norv was fired? Sure, someone would take it. There's likely a Robiskie somewhere on this staff.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
That's more or less what I meant. Someone will accept the role, and it doesn't really matter who it is because it's three more weeks and then we start over. If it was week 10 or something, and there was someone we liked going forward on staff, you'd give him the chance to earn and keep the job. We don't have that, so who cares who accepts?
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Hang 10
Footballguy
You know, I thought we had a pass catching TE before we drafted Reed. Just one more reason to get rid of Shanahan. If you can't or don't want to use Davis anymore, why the #### did you bring him back this past off season??
Is that because there isn't any options to begin with? Right now the only thing that makes him qualified as a NFL head coach is that RG3 (and probably Richie Rich) loves it.
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dgreen
Footballguy
I really hope there's more to this than "Well, RG3 will like it!" I mostly care that someone competent is the person making the selection of the next HC. Too often, we think of a HC as just a more important OC or more important DC. There's more to being a HC than installing your scheme.
Hang 10
Footballguy
Turning a doormat program like Baylor in big 12 champs is note worthy. He also had a ridiculous offense that our franchise QB knows well. Might be the best coach to hit the ground running.
Hang 10
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Steve Spurrier didn't want to work, he wanted to golf and coach on Sundays. That's not how the NFL works. Briles isn't necessarily my top choice either, but he's not Spurrier.
Yes I would assume that Briles will have a harder work ethic that Spurrier but like Spurrier the idea of bringing someone in because he had a great system in college is worrysome. Even Chip Kelly in that great Oregon system had to make it more NFL in order to work.
Also think about this. Who is going to be the GM of this team? Bruce Allen job is basically to make sure that special events go without a hitch. He hasn't done anything to make you think he is a real football GM. Hell he doesn't even talk. So are you going to let Briles be the GM. If not then you are basically saying that Dan Synder is the GM of the team like when Vinny the goof was here.
Also think about this. Who is going to be the GM of this team? Bruce Allen job is basically to make sure that special events go without a hitch. He hasn't done anything to make you think he is a real football GM. Hell he doesn't even talk. So are you going to let Briles be the GM. If not then you are basically saying that Dan Synder is the GM of the team like when Vinny the goof was here.
phrozen
Footballguy
I think Kyle would go if Mike is fired. Also Synder might as well fire Haslett too while he is at it. We all know he is gone at the end of the season so might as well rip the band-aid.
I would be intrigued if Tomlin is fired from the Steelers.
phrozen
Footballguy
I shudder thinking about the Vinny days. As bad as things are right now, the Vinny era as worse
dgreen
Footballguy
Agreed. I don't want Snyder making the decision. Not sure I'd have a problem with Allen selecting the next HC, but he'd also need to pick someone to do the tradition GM duties (possibly without the GM title, probably limiting the type of candidates you get).
Hang 10
Footballguy
I don't know, I'm willing to let things play out a little more before I just start assuming 5 to 10 steps a head. I don't really know what happens to Allen. Personally, I think he should go but I could see him staying. But I never said I'd be good with Briles as GM. Ideally the new GM will pick the new coach and if he likes Briles, I'm good with that.
I mean, really...this is a crapshoot. Retread, hot coordinator or college coach. If you know anyone that's a lock, I'm all ears here.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Let's hope it's because he already knew, in his heart, he wouldn't be here to make that decision next week.
RGIII HTTR
Footballguy
Armageddon is upon us...
I mentioned earlier in the season, changes would occur in season if we came across an embarrassing loss for D. Snyder. This was one for sure! One problem I have with Shanny, Burns' special teams have been a disaster all season and even got worse. At what point does your loyalty stop when it involves the betterment of the team or your responsibility to the team???
I don't think the Baylor coach is the answer, I am for Jay Gruden or Zimmer as choices. I'd like to know more about the SEA OC too. Change is need and the horrible display on the field proves that nothing is working anymore. Time for change!
I mentioned earlier in the season, changes would occur in season if we came across an embarrassing loss for D. Snyder. This was one for sure! One problem I have with Shanny, Burns' special teams have been a disaster all season and even got worse. At what point does your loyalty stop when it involves the betterment of the team or your responsibility to the team???
I don't think the Baylor coach is the answer, I am for Jay Gruden or Zimmer as choices. I'd like to know more about the SEA OC too. Change is need and the horrible display on the field proves that nothing is working anymore. Time for change!
Ted Mullins
Footballguy
My first thought was that he was trying to force Shanny's hand into just getting rid of him now, although who knows. Messy situation all around.
fatness
Footballguy
I'd say that uncertainty about his job status next week is the reason he answered that way.
fatness
Footballguy
I don't know enough about Briles to have an intelligent opinion about him, frankly.
I do think that if Mike goes there's a decent chance Kyle and Haslett will finish out the year to do the honorable thing, knowing they're gone at the end of the season. They may not be allowed that opportunity, though. But replacing the HC, both coordinators, and the special teams coach all at once mid-season is a pretty daunting task. Watch the craigslist ads tonight.
I do think that if Mike goes there's a decent chance Kyle and Haslett will finish out the year to do the honorable thing, knowing they're gone at the end of the season. They may not be allowed that opportunity, though. But replacing the HC, both coordinators, and the special teams coach all at once mid-season is a pretty daunting task. Watch the craigslist ads tonight.
fatness
Footballguy
dgreen
Footballguy
Which would go along with theories that the story broke this morning because Mike is trying to get himself fired.
fatness
Footballguy
Yes. I've been mentioning for the last couple weeks that Shanahan had that "don't want to be here" look during games, the same look Spurrier had near the end. I think he'd be happier exiting now.
edited to add: And he'd be happier being fired, thus collecting his salary, than quitting.
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fatness
Footballguy
No. The ultimate problem with this franchise is an owner who does not know how to pick qualified general managers and head coaches.
fatness
Footballguy
fatness
Footballguy
valhallan
Footballguy
I think Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan are more than qualified. Vinny Cerrato certainly wasn't.
And yes, it's the owner treating those picks like toys. I was just trying to point to something specific.
dgreen
Footballguy
I think there are tons of blame on Richie Rich for this mess but it is sort of like that old drunk relative who screws up everything on the holidays. You knew it was going to happen eventually and you should have prepared for it. So complaining about it now seems stupid.dgreen said:
The guy who really seems to be given the free pass is RG3. He is the biggest player on the team but it is obvious that stroking his ego and pandering to his family is causing way too many problems. Now it seems that he is going to choose the next head coach for the team. Only two people have that kind of stroke and their last name is Manning and Brady. I hope someone in this organization tells him that some serious pressure is on him next year. You can't use the "my leg is still hurt" excuse anymore. Hell you really shouldn't be using it now
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Excellent. Reports are that Snyder and Allen had a late night at Redskins Park. Probably dicussing details, writing statements, and choosing an interim HC.
