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Dead sexy
i'm a fan of Oris watches. they have done some lovely timepieces, like this one, and have a solid reputation.
If I'm getting a Rolex I'm sure not getting one with a lightning bolt. Not my cup of tea.I already posted what I have. Since I'm bored and in an effort to revive this thread, I thought I'd post what I want. Here's my three grails at the moment. I've gotten to see and try on all these watches in person.
Rolex Milgauss -- This one was mentioned earlier by fantasycurse42. To me, it's a Rolex that seems modern and edgy rather than old and stodgy. Some people don't like the lightning bolt, but I think it fits the theme of the watch as anti-magnetic.
Glashutte Original Panomatic Lunar -- Such a different yet clean design. The case is a little thick when I tried it on, but it still felt OK on the wrist. I think it has the most beautiful, ornate displayed movement of any watch you can get for under $10k.
Jaeger-LeCoultre Master Calendar Meteorite -- I used to want a JLC Master Ultra Thin Moon, but the dial on this special edition meteorite version really stood out to me in store.
Did you pick it up in Basel?
Probably not. The crown will generally pull out farther from where you can adjust the time. Rotating it from there will change the date. I've never seen a Seamaster IRL though.I inherited an old Omega Seamaster from my dad. He wore it everyday for like 40 years or something. It's a windup, but I don't know how to adjust the date. Do I need to keep turning the hands until the dates change one day at a time?
I've tried pulling the crown beyond the first "click", no luck. I'm going to try the back and forth at midnight trick and see if that works.Probably not. The crown will generally pull out farther from where you can adjust the time. Rotating it from there will change the date. I've never seen a Seamaster IRL though.
happy belatedWasn't exactly planning on it, but pulled the trigger on this Saturday. Put it on and fell in love. Got it as a gift to myself for my upcoming 40th bday
https://shop-us.tagheuer.com/en/calibre-16-automatic-chronograph-44-mm-caz2010-ba0876.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=google_shopping_us&utm_term=&utm_content=formula1&mkwid=snyeaxvkm_dt&pcrid=77911357872&pmt=&pkw=&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_campaign=TAG%20Heuer_US_Shopping&gclid=CNTp4JGInMsCFQsDaQodGtgICw
Be careful when you do this on an old watch. Crown stems can be delicate to torque especially if you're reversing directions. Try to avoid the tendency to do this quickly; rotate the crown slowly with a definite stop before reversing.I've tried pulling the crown beyond the first "click", no luck. I'm going to try the back and forth at midnight trick and see if that works.
NATO straps are great. They're light, comfortable and easy to swap. They come in three or five ring models. 007 switched back to wearing one in Spectre for the first time since it featured prominently in the pre-credits sequence of Goldfinger.moleculo said:my wife bought me this watch (used, but in good shape) on our anniversary last year: Omega Seamaster. I've worn it pretty much every week-day since then. Love it. It's a good size and a bit heavy. love the 48 hour power reserve - I can not wear it almost all weekend, give it a quick wind on Saturday night and it will still be keeping the correct time Monday morning. It's a simple, clean face, easy to read, no complications to distract when I glance at my wrist.
What are your thoughts on putting this on a NATO type strap?
Shoot the lock off your wallet and post a pic of what you get.Damn I am getting the itch again....
You pull the trigger. I'm getting it bad lately, looking to get rid of a rubber band watch and replace with another.Damn I am getting the itch again....
Like the Omega but I have never been a fan of Breitlings.You pull the trigger. I'm getting it bad lately, looking to get rid of a rubber band watch and replace with another.
Here is what I'm eyeing
https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/seamaster/planet-ocean-600m/the-collection/product/
Black/Orange w/ rubber band
https://www.breitling.com/en/models/superocean-heritage/superocean-heritage-ii-chronographe/versions/
Any of the 1st 3, but not stainless steel, rubber band as well
https://www.breitling.com/en/models/avenger/super-avenger-ii/
Black with the white chronograph, rubber band
Almost did a week ago. Turned 40 and stood at the entrance to the watch shop. I didn't go in.fantasycurse42 said:You pull the trigger. I'm getting it bad lately, looking to get rid of a rubber band watch and replace with another.
Here is what I'm eyeing
https://www.omegawatches.com/watches/seamaster/planet-ocean-600m/the-collection/product/
Black/Orange w/ rubber band
https://www.breitling.com/en/models/superocean-heritage/superocean-heritage-ii-chronographe/versions/
Any of the 1st 3, but not stainless steel, rubber band as well
https://www.breitling.com/en/models/avenger/super-avenger-ii/
Black with the white chronograph, rubber band
Love that watch!fantasycurse42 said:Here is a better shot of the Omega - https://www.omegawatches.com/images/Watches/Product_Presentation/Seamaster/Planet_Ocean_MasterChronometer/SE_PlanetOcean_21532465101001_VueC_large.jpg
I'd be using it for weekend stuff, casual non-dressy stuff, around the neighborhood, out with the kids... I like the orange, but IDK.
Any watch guys have any thoughts on this one?
I wonder the same thing. I can buy an Omega on the grey market for a good bit cheaper. I would love to find one of the snoopy speedmasters, but they are a nice chunk of change for a watch with a snoopy on it.I like that Omega, but I'm not in love with it. I located a good deal on it which is leaning me towards it, but I'm not 100%
The SuperOcean is a little big/heavy for what I'm looking for. I'm up in the air on the Avenger ii.
I left work for like 3 hours today to look at watches. Today I hit Tourneau, Breitling, & Omega. I might just wander through 47th St to try and find something I liked priced aggressively.
Who would actually buy at any of the places I visited today? Like why would you buy something from a place that doesn't discount. How does Tourneau stay in business? I understand the flagship stores are there to be there for the presence and not the sales, but Tourneau?
Love that Omega. I'd put it on a nice Zulu strapfantasycurse42 said:Here is a better shot of the Omega - https://www.omegawatches.com/images/Watches/Product_Presentation/Seamaster/Planet_Ocean_MasterChronometer/SE_PlanetOcean_21532465101001_VueC_large.jpg
I'd be using it for weekend stuff, casual non-dressy stuff, around the neighborhood, out with the kids... I like the orange, but IDK.
Any watch guys have any thoughts on this one?
something a bit less orangeLove that Omega. I'd put it on a nice Zulu strap
As a person that has been in the jewelry and watch trade for over 24 years--I can tell you that Omegas are fantastic watches. I own several Omegas--and my current day to day beat around watch is a stainless steel automatic Seamaster chronograph with a blue dial. I also recently acquired a "Dark Side of the Moon" Speedmaster--but I ended up selling it off of my wrist to a great client of mine as he didn't want to wait a few days for me to order him a new one. In regards to the Planet Ocean--it is a great series. It features the proprietary Co-Axial automatic movement. It is lubricated with synthetic oil so it doesn't need to be serviced as frequently as most automatic watches. Co-axial movements are also designed to be more frictionless--so they are very accurate and very efficient. With Omega--I can tell you that they are fantastic watches in regards to construction and mechanical quality. The styling is subjective to the user--so that is something that is completely up to you. In regards to re-sale value--neither Omega or Breitling are currently great (as the current market is very Rolex and Patek centric)--so I'd call them fairly even in that respect. I do agree with the poster that said that if you go for an Omega--you should purchase it with a bracelet on it. There is virtually no discount on Omega bracelets--and while you can find nice affordable aftermarket straps to fit on an Omega--there really is no good factory quality aftermarket bracelet that you can get.fantasycurse42 said:Here is a better shot of the Omega - https://www.omegawatches.com/images/Watches/Product_Presentation/Seamaster/Planet_Ocean_MasterChronometer/SE_PlanetOcean_21532465101001_VueC_large.jpg
I'd be using it for weekend stuff, casual non-dressy stuff, around the neighborhood, out with the kids... I like the orange, but IDK.
Any watch guys have any thoughts on this one?
Great post, I did not know all these details but always knew when purchasing on grey market you don't have the warranty. One of these days I plan to get myself a Patek Calatrava (which I think is the quintessential dress watch) and if making a purchase of that significance I think I would go to an authorized dealer. My other watches I have either purchased on grey market or directly from the manufacturer (my nomos).As a person that has been in the jewelry and watch trade for over 24 years--I can tell you that Omegas are fantastic watches. I own several Omegas--and my current day to day beat around watch is a stainless steel automatic Seamaster chronograph with a blue dial. I also recently acquired a "Dark Side of the Moon" Speedmaster--but I ended up selling it off of my wrist to a great client of mine as he didn't want to wait a few days for me to order him a new one. In regards to the Planet Ocean--it is a great series. It features the proprietary Co-Axial automatic movement. It is lubricated with synthetic oil so it doesn't need to be serviced as frequently as most automatic watches. Co-axial movements are also designed to be more frictionless--so they are very accurate and very efficient. With Omega--I can tell you that they are fantastic watches in regards to construction and mechanical quality. The styling is subjective to the user--so that is something that is completely up to you. In regards to re-sale value--neither Omega or Breitling are currently great (as the current market is very Rolex and Patek centric)--so I'd call them fairly even in that respect. I do agree with the poster that said that if you go for an Omega--you should purchase it with a bracelet on it. There is virtually no discount on Omega bracelets--and while you can find nice affordable aftermarket straps to fit on an Omega--there really is no good factory quality aftermarket bracelet that you can get.
In regards to the Breitling--they are too nice watches. Their aviation rich heritage is really cool and their watches tend to be bigger and bulkier. I believe the Super Avenger II is a 48mm watch--and it features what they are calling their BR 13 movement. This movement is basically based off a valjoux 7750--which is a solid workhorse movement. My only hesitation with Breitling at this moment in time is that they are under new ownership. They recently sold to a venture capital group. Because of this--you can find some of their timepieces available at aggressive discounts on the gray market. I personally slightly prefer Omega to Breitlng--but both brands are similar in regards to their quality and construction.
In regards to your question about why anybody would purchase a watch from a place like Tourneau because of their lack of discounting--I can tell you that the fault is not that of Tourneau. Much of the public is unaware that when you become an authorized dealer for a major watch brand--that you do have several contractual obligations. You are subject to minimum opening orders, minimum annual commitments, some brands require annual advertising and marketing budgets, and almost every significant brand disallows discounting. The major watch companies feel like their authorized dealers offering discounts on their watches cheapens the brand and erodes their desirability. Tourneau doesn't give discounts because they are contractually obligated to not give them--not because they are choosing to be snooty. This is why most major brands don't refer to watches coming from unauthorized dealers as being "grey market"--instead they give them more dramatic titles--such as "watches of unknown origin". Grey market watches do not come with factory warranties and are technically pre-owned watches that happen to be in brand new condition. The reason for this is because in the world of watches--a watch can technically only be new once. This "once" is the moment when the watch is sold from an authorized agent of that brand to a consumer. If that consumer happens to be a grey market broker--the result is still the same. The moment that broker purchases the watch--it is no longer "technically brand new"--rather it is a "pre-owned watch that is in new condition". Secondly--because most watch brands do not offer transferable warranties--this explains why most grey market dealers do not offer factory warranties. This is why you cannot compare prices of grey market watches to watches from authorized dealers. A watch from an authorized dealer will come with a factory warranty and a proven provenance. When you buy a grey market watch--you could be purchasing a European or Asian model-where a US broker went on an international shopping spree to take advantage of a strong dollar. These are factors that can effect the resale value of your watch down the road. The people that purchase a watch from a place like Tourneau are essentially willing to pay full price for the advantage of these perks. I apologize for the length of this post--but I hope that a few people find it informative and helpful.
Thank you for words about my post. I'm glad you found it informative. You certainly seem to have a wonderful and sophisticated taste in watches. In my opinion Patek is the top of the timepiece food chain when it comes to timelessness and quality. Their elegance is perfectly understated and their attention to detail in every aspect is impeccable. Every piece they make is fully archived and they truly treat each of their timepieces as if they are museum pieces. Even their movement screws often have several finishes--brushing/polishing/beveled edges. Etc. I certainly hope that you get your Calatrava soon--and I do think that getting a Patek from an authorized dealer is a sound decision. While most people that get Pateks don't end up selling them (as most Pateks end up becomming family heirlooms)---if you ever decided to sell or trade in a Patek--most buyers will most likely be collectors that will want provenance that it came from an authorized dealer. If and when you get it--make sure you keep everything--from the box/papers--to even the hang tags --because a fully "complete" Patek will always hold more value than an incomplete one.Great post, I did not know all these details but always knew when purchasing on grey market you don't have the warranty. One of these days I plan to get myself a Patek Calatrava (which I think is the quintessential dress watch) and if making a purchase of that significance I think I would go to an authorized dealer. My other watches I have either purchased on grey market or directly from the manufacturer (my nomos).
There is a first time for everything.Thank you for words about my post. I'm glad you found it informative. You certainly seem to have a wonderful and sophisticated taste in watches. In my opinion Patek is the top of the timepiece food chain when it comes to timelessness and quality. Their elegance is perfectly understated and their attention to detail in every aspect is impeccable. Every piece they make is fully archived and they truly treat each of their timepieces as if they are museum pieces. Even their movement screws often have several finishes--brushing/polishing/beveled edges. Etc. I certainly hope that you get your Calatrava soon--and I do think that getting a Patek from an authorized dealer is a sound decision. While most people that get Pateks don't end up selling them (as most Pateks end up becomming family heirlooms)---if you ever decided to sell or trade in a Patek--most buyers will most likely be collectors that will want provenance that it came from an authorized dealer. If and when you get it--make sure you keep everything--from the box/papers--to even the hang tags --because a fully "complete" Patek will always hold more value than an incomplete one.
Nomos is a small but fantastic smaller brand. Very clean styling and very innovative design when it comes to their movements. I like how most of their watches are not super thick--and their dials are understated and nice. Definitely one of the nicer "boutique" brands in my opinion. About a year ago--I did have a slight back and forth with one of the top execs at Nomos (his name is actually Merlin--no joke) about a warranty issue with them that one of my customers was having with a watch that he had purchased from an authorized dealer in Europe. After a couple emails--he ended up agreeing to fix the watch--and it was really cool actually getting to know him through that unusual circumstance. He really takes pride in the quality of their timepieces--which is a very nice thing to see in a smaller brand.
OMEGA PLANET OCEAN 600m 45.5mm 2908.50.38 Mens WatchHere is a better shot of the Omega - https://www.omegawatches.com/images/Watches/Product_Presentation/Seamaster/Planet_Ocean_MasterChronometer/SE_PlanetOcean_21532465101001_VueC_large.jpg
I'd be using it for weekend stuff, casual non-dressy stuff, around the neighborhood, out with the kids... I like the orange, but IDK.
Any watch guys have any thoughts on this one?