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I can't do it.......The 1st person I'd fire after this season is Suzy Waldman......COME ON WITH THIS CRAP!!!!!You think he's bad...Try listening to the Yankees radio broadcast sometime...2 useless homer shtickers...Like listening to my best friend's Jewish grandparents try to broadcast a game with as much Borsct Belt humor as possible...GDB not being able to stomach your own team's broadcasts...
And they talked about game 4 on the telecast quite a bit throughout the entire game (possible starters, etc).
It's not like he's a power pitcher - He actually had Too much rest for the last start.....He's on a quick leash.... No doubt I'd start Wang tonight and as I said, I'm expecting good things, just keep the ball down.
This is how I see it. Then IF there is a game 5 everyone will be available obviously.
Maybe CC has a poor history on 3 days rest? I dont know I am just speculating.
Most pitchers have a poor history on 3 days rest, but the Yanks can't afford not to at this time.
If he's not starting CC on 3 days rest, he's not pitching Carmona on 2 days rest with the expectation of having him available for Game 5, I would imagine...
They should also remember Josh Beckett too though.Similar situation, though it's a bit different in that Florida would have been looking at an elimination game in Yankee Stadium if they didn't take Game 6. Cleveland at least knows if they lose tonight, they still get the Yanks at home.If it's me, though, I'm going Crooked Cap in 4/Carmona 5.
It's the same philosophy of throwing Pettitte for a couple outs tonight and still coming back with Pettitte in Game 5 to actually start the game. I don't see what you're saying. The Yanks do this in the regular season with starters from time to time. That said, I think there is little chance we see Carmona tonight based on Wedge's tendencies and his confidence in his pen.
I'm saying it more from the managerial perspectives of Wedge and Torre than from Carmona's actual ability to do it...
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Don't forget what Pedro did to us on short rest.
:( Are you going on record as saying you are rooting for the Yanks? Best case scenario for the Sox is for it to go to 5.....C.C. lasts 2 1/3 innings, they need to pull Carmona in to pitch the rest and the Indians win it in the 9th.Sinkerballers (ie Wang) tend to do well on short rest. This was the case with Lowe when he pitched for the Sox anyways. I gotta say I am HOPING the yanks run Joba out there for 1 and Mariano for 2 tonight.... then use them again in game 5. Those guys arms will be falling off by the time they get to Boston (if they get to Boston)... meanwhile the Sox pen will have had a week off to get healtthy
I'll dream and play along....CC pitches game 2 on three days rest Saturday and then game 5 on full rest. Carmona pitches game 3 at home on full rest and then game 6. Westbrook game 1 on full rest. Games 4 and 7 are crapshoots, either Byrd/Bryd (full/normal rest) or Bryd then Westbrook (8 days rest). No way CC and Carmona don't see the mound until games 3 and 4 at home, meaning Laffey would start game 2.Sinkerballers (ie Wang) tend to do well on short rest. This was the case with Lowe when he pitched for the Sox anyways. I gotta say I am HOPING the yanks run Joba out there for 1 and Mariano for 2 tonight.... then use them again in game 5. Those guys arms will be falling off by the time they get to Boston (if they get to Boston)... meanwhile the Sox pen will have had a week off to get healtthy
Are you going on record as saying you are rooting for the Yanks? Best case scenario for the Sox is for it to go to 5.....C.C. lasts 2 1/3 innings, they need to pull Carmona in to pitch the rest and the Indians win it in the 9th.
Thankfully.
about game 4 besides me?I think the Yanks win tonight and am very glad that they will probably be facing C.C. over Carmona....although that choice is much like asking if it would be more enjoyable to get hit in the head with a brick or kicked in the nuts.....either way it's not going to be nice.Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
about game 4 besides me?Here's what I mean...the Indians pound the Yanks into submission in game 1. You follow that up with a heartbreaker in game 2 that sends the Yankees reeling. Game 3, you knock Clemens out of the box and stake yourself to an early lead...and then you seemingly let up. Martinez makes that throw to try and throw out gimp-meister Matsui at 3rd instead of taking the sure out. Matsui later scores to bring the crowd back into it, and within a couple of innings we're the ones on the ropes and now the Yankees "believe". They're no longer down and out; they're back and their swinging.Am I alone here?
Head with a brick...No brainer (no pun intended)...I think the Yanks win tonight and am very glad that they will probably be facing C.C. over Carmona....although that choice is much like asking if it would be more enjoyable to get hit in the head with a brick or kicked in the nuts.....either way it's not going to be nice.Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
You're not alone. I'm definitely concerned. Losing tonight, I would be very concerned about the psyche of this team in game 5, even with CC on the mound. It's not like he was dominant in game 1...Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
Huge Yankee homer but I know how you feel. I had the same feeling when the yanks were up 3-0 on boston. I laughed off game four and 5 however when game six rolled around, everyone was saying, "if we lose game six, boston still has to come to our house and try and win a game 7"....all while I was saying "i do not even want to fathom a game 7"...anything can happen in that last game and home field means nothing. It is one game to win or lose. I can see how Indians fans despeately want to end it tonight....im hoping wanger pulls out the right stuffAre there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
No, you are not alone. But weird things happen and as much as we're debating this game 5 stuff (who to start, etc), I have a funny feeling that it's over tonight. If Byrd goes 5 and the game is close, I like our chances. If Byrd starts walking guys, like CC in Game 1, Wedge needs to get him out ASAP. Rather have the lefty Laffey going if that is the case. Byrd doesn't walk guys, like CC, and obviously doesn't have the K potential that CC does. The tight strike zone we've seen in this series both ways could doom Byrd.If there was any pitcher that the zone was extended for in this series, I would say it was Hughes last night. Guy was just nasty either way though.OK. I'm out. GO TRIBE!Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
It's playoff baseball so I'm nervous already. Have two games to try to close it out and hopefully Byrd gives us 6 decent innings.BTW...Tribe lineup for tonight:CF Sizemore2B CabreraDH Hafner1B MartinezSS PeraltaLF LoftonRF Gutierrez3B BlakeC ShoppachYou're not alone. I'm definitely concerned. Losing tonight, I would be very concerned about the psyche of this team in game 5, even with CC on the mound. It's not like he was dominant in game 1...Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
This is not always a bad thing. He didn't get hit around either, ya know.You're not alone. I'm definitely concerned. Losing tonight, I would be very concerned about the psyche of this team in game 5, even with CC on the mound. It's not like he was dominant in game 1...Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
Here's what I mean...the Indians pound the Yanks into submission in game 1. You follow that up with a heartbreaker in game 2 that sends the Yankees reeling. Game 3, you knock Clemens out of the box and stake yourself to an early lead...and then you seemingly let up. Martinez makes that throw to try and throw out gimp-meister Matsui at 3rd instead of taking the sure out. Matsui later scores to bring the crowd back into it, and within a couple of innings we're the ones on the ropes and now the Yankees "believe". They're no longer down and out; they're back and their swinging.
Am I alone here?
No Garko? OMG. I gotta leave now.....It's playoff baseball so I'm nervous already. Have two games to try to close it out and hopefully Byrd gives us 6 decent innings.BTW...Tribe lineup for tonight:CF Sizemore2B CabreraDH Hafner1B MartinezSS PeraltaLF LoftonRF Gutierrez3B BlakeC ShoppachYou're not alone. I'm definitely concerned. Losing tonight, I would be very concerned about the psyche of this team in game 5, even with CC on the mound. It's not like he was dominant in game 1...Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
I sure don't mind not seeing Garko in there...He's hit us this series....364/.500/.636 with a homer and 3 ribbiesIs Shoppach Byrd's personal catcher or something?It's playoff baseball so I'm nervous already. Have two games to try to close it out and hopefully Byrd gives us 6 decent innings.BTW...Tribe lineup for tonight:CF Sizemore2B CabreraDH Hafner1B MartinezSS PeraltaLF LoftonRF Gutierrez3B BlakeC ShoppachYou're not alone. I'm definitely concerned. Losing tonight, I would be very concerned about the psyche of this team in game 5, even with CC on the mound. It's not like he was dominant in game 1...Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little:( about game 4 besides me?Here's what I mean...the Indians pound the Yanks into submission in game 1. You follow that up with a heartbreaker in game 2 that sends the Yankees reeling. Game 3, you knock Clemens out of the box and stake yourself to an early lead...and then you seemingly let up. Martinez makes that throw to try and throw out gimp-meister Matsui at 3rd instead of taking the sure out. Matsui later scores to bring the crowd back into it, and within a couple of innings we're the ones on the ropes and now the Yankees "believe". They're no longer down and out; they're back and their swinging.Am I alone here?
Has caught him all year. Would prefer keeping Garko in there myself.ETA: much better defensive catcher than VMart though.I sure don't mind not seeing Garko in there...He's hit us this series...It's playoff baseball so I'm nervous already. Have two games to try to close it out and hopefully Byrd gives us 6 decent innings.BTW...Tribe lineup for tonight:You're not alone. I'm definitely concerned. Losing tonight, I would be very concerned about the psyche of this team in game 5, even with CC on the mound. It's not like he was dominant in game 1...Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
Here's what I mean...the Indians pound the Yanks into submission in game 1. You follow that up with a heartbreaker in game 2 that sends the Yankees reeling. Game 3, you knock Clemens out of the box and stake yourself to an early lead...and then you seemingly let up. Martinez makes that throw to try and throw out gimp-meister Matsui at 3rd instead of taking the sure out. Matsui later scores to bring the crowd back into it, and within a couple of innings we're the ones on the ropes and now the Yankees "believe". They're no longer down and out; they're back and their swinging.
Am I alone here?
CF Sizemore
2B Cabrera
DH Hafner
1B Martinez
SS Peralta
LF Lofton
RF Gutierrez
3B Blake
C Shoppach
.364/.500/.636 with a homer and 3 ribbies
Is Shoppach Byrd's personal catcher or something?
They can PH Garko for Shoppach if they're behind, move VM behind the plate, and put Garko at 1st. I guess...Has caught him all year. Would prefer keeping Garko in there myself.ETA: much better defensive catcher than VMart though.I sure don't mind not seeing Garko in there...He's hit us this series...It's playoff baseball so I'm nervous already. Have two games to try to close it out and hopefully Byrd gives us 6 decent innings.BTW...Tribe lineup for tonight:You're not alone. I'm definitely concerned. Losing tonight, I would be very concerned about the psyche of this team in game 5, even with CC on the mound. It's not like he was dominant in game 1...Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
Here's what I mean...the Indians pound the Yanks into submission in game 1. You follow that up with a heartbreaker in game 2 that sends the Yankees reeling. Game 3, you knock Clemens out of the box and stake yourself to an early lead...and then you seemingly let up. Martinez makes that throw to try and throw out gimp-meister Matsui at 3rd instead of taking the sure out. Matsui later scores to bring the crowd back into it, and within a couple of innings we're the ones on the ropes and now the Yankees "believe". They're no longer down and out; they're back and their swinging.
Am I alone here?
CF Sizemore
2B Cabrera
DH Hafner
1B Martinez
SS Peralta
LF Lofton
RF Gutierrez
3B Blake
C Shoppach
.364/.500/.636 with a homer and 3 ribbies
Is Shoppach Byrd's personal catcher or something?
You can't count on walking 6 guys, and not allowing any of them to score. But my concern is more that his Game 1 performance will be in the back of everyone's mind, and they'll play tight.This is not always a bad thing. He didn't get hit around either, ya know.You're not alone. I'm definitely concerned. Losing tonight, I would be very concerned about the psyche of this team in game 5, even with CC on the mound. It's not like he was dominant in game 1...Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a little
Here's what I mean...the Indians pound the Yanks into submission in game 1. You follow that up with a heartbreaker in game 2 that sends the Yankees reeling. Game 3, you knock Clemens out of the box and stake yourself to an early lead...and then you seemingly let up. Martinez makes that throw to try and throw out gimp-meister Matsui at 3rd instead of taking the sure out. Matsui later scores to bring the crowd back into it, and within a couple of innings we're the ones on the ropes and now the Yankees "believe". They're no longer down and out; they're back and their swinging.
Am I alone here?
This is where I don't get the personal catcher thing. I can see one for Wakefield and maybe a few others...but Byrd? Kelly is better defensively, but VMart has been much better this year than last throwing runners out. Both are very solid with balls in the dirt.They can PH Garko for Shoppach if they're behind, move VM behind the plate, and put Garko at 1st. I guess...Has caught him all year. Would prefer keeping Garko in there myself.ETA: much better defensive catcher than VMart though.I sure don't mind not seeing Garko in there...He's hit us this series...It's playoff baseball so I'm nervous already. Have two games to try to close it out and hopefully Byrd gives us 6 decent innings.BTW...Tribe lineup for tonight:You're not alone. I'm definitely concerned. Losing tonight, I would be very concerned about the psyche of this team in game 5, even with CC on the mound. It's not like he was dominant in game 1...Are there any other Tribe fans or those rooting for the Tribe a littleabout game 4 besides me?
Here's what I mean...the Indians pound the Yanks into submission in game 1. You follow that up with a heartbreaker in game 2 that sends the Yankees reeling. Game 3, you knock Clemens out of the box and stake yourself to an early lead...and then you seemingly let up. Martinez makes that throw to try and throw out gimp-meister Matsui at 3rd instead of taking the sure out. Matsui later scores to bring the crowd back into it, and within a couple of innings we're the ones on the ropes and now the Yankees "believe". They're no longer down and out; they're back and their swinging.
Am I alone here?
CF Sizemore
2B Cabrera
DH Hafner
1B Martinez
SS Peralta
LF Lofton
RF Gutierrez
3B Blake
C Shoppach
.364/.500/.636 with a homer and 3 ribbies
Is Shoppach Byrd's personal catcher or something?
I think this is the right call.NYY has to have Wang come back on 3 days rest tonight. So you send out Byrd and try to sneak out a victory and have CC for game 1 against Bos.If not, you have CC on full rest versus at home versus Pettite on short rest and a depleted bullpen. It's a good call.
How come I can't get some of that rain? It's 90 damn degrees down here and hasn't rained since I don't know.......
where are you?
Maybe Mother Nature can save Eric Wedge from himself.
Doesn't look awful, now it's just night time dark so it's hard to tell...It never ended up raining,.,Forecast isn't for sustained rain...May have some sprinkles, maybe even a delay, but not postponed...
