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Top 20 WR, Giants best receiver
He's the total package!Top 20 WR, Giants best receiver
In PPR, perhaps. But Nicks sure looks like a stud in the making to me. He's a guy I added last year as much as possible. He's the real deal.
based on last years numbers, yea steve smith is the safer pick but nicks is a way better value at his ADP plus the fact that we have pretty much seen smith's ceiling and Nick's upside is so tremendous that it's the type of saavy drafting that win's fantasy championships.I am a die hard Giants fan and after watching Nick's rookie year, considering he was injured the start of the season and put up the numbers he did in 6 starts (I believe), he is primed for a monsterous season. Plus the fact that the new Meadowlands Stadium is likely engineered to decrese their infamous "swirling winds" thus enhancing Eli's ability to throw the deep ball to Nicks. He's had all off season, camp, and preseason to get acclimated with all Giant's recieving routes (something he didn't have last year). If he's able to stay healthy, between his increase in playing time and rookie numbers, his projections for this season are almost mind boggling.
3rd year is a misnomer. Its used because most rookies take about 2 full years to first get acclimated to the long season and then the full playbook. If a guy has talent, they will shine through. I.e Randy Moss, DeSean Jackson, Calvin Johnson, Jerry Rice, etc.
Depends on how pro ready a WR is coming in; last year I think Nicks and Crabtree fit the bill, but Maclin was pretty good as well.3rd year theory was a good one around 2004-07, but what is the recent trend?
I said what specifically a few posts up..plus, i've never seen a team throw so many screens to a WR before. He consistently gets yardage on them too. He has tremendous playmaking ability and despite his limited exposure to the giants WR routes last year, they literally just gave him the ball because of his abilit. He ran simple routes last year and was spectacular. Look to see him to line up on differnt sides of the ball and give differnt looks and routes. The Giants will get him the ball.
This type of savvy drafting? So what, people that draft Nicks will win their leagues? Everyone agrees he has upside. If he goes for 1200+ yards and 10 tds, those that draft him look great. If he goes for 900 yards and 7 tds...it's not such a savvy move getting him ahead of Garcon, TO, Malcolm Floyd, Hines Ward, etc.
Not much of a gamble when you get him at the beginning of round 9 like I did in one of my drafts.....
Got him at the beginning of the 6th in the other one, which I can also live with.
you just proved my point as last year he went for 790/6..........STARTING ONLY 6 GAMES. Throw out the fact that he had a year to better acquaint himself with the giants offense, and work with Eli more for 2010. Throw that out. Take those numbers and project them over a 16 game season. Do you have those numbers in your head? Thats strictly statistics. Now, throw in genearl development of a 1st year WR to a 2nd and then add in a HEALTHY year of getting acquainted with the Giants Offense (which he missed out on last year, as a rookie, and still produced) Mind Boggling numbers. Like I said, if he gets anywhere close to those numbers, I will be happy.
I don't agree with the above one bit, as I think the Giants defense is going to be much better than last years. The injuries that occurred on the '09 Giants would have decimated ANY defensive unit. Back to the original topic of Nicks, this is not a power running team right now, and have proven that recently. Manning is their ticket to winning games and scoring points on the offense. Not so much pass first as Peyton and the Colts, but Eli, Nicks, Smith and Manningham are going to be relied on heavily this year no matter the score. The fact that he can also take a simple OUT or Quick Hitch pattern 70 yards to the house gives him more than that one-dimensional deep ball look. I think he could be in for a pretty big year.
I appreciate your take on Nicks and agree that it's risky to assume him a WR1, even after yesterday's game. He's a strong WR2 with WR1 upside. The risk being, are you willing to bet on that upside and take him as a WR1? I have him as a WR3 in my 14 team league, so no I did not take that risk but this is what I'm talking about when I said he could win fantasy championships. The potential of 2 or 3 WR 1's on a team, with Nicks being drafted as a WR2/3 on a team that already has a stud 1 and high 2.I was at the game yesterday and he looked great. It seemed like when the Giants went with 3 WR, Smith was in the slot (which makes sense) with Nicks and Manningham out wide. Nick's is the Giant's #1, as we saw yesterday. I don't want it to seem like I'm over hyping his performance yesterday, but I am just as high on him now as I was before preseason. Him and Manning did look a bit "off" on a few routes but connected when it mattered, and this is why I don't consider yesterday a fluke at all. Here is why Nicks' is the Giants #1: Correct me if I'm wrong, but his first few targets went incomplete and although they weren't the best balls by Manning, Nick's got his hands on them and could have come down with the ball. Eli still trusted him enough to target him in the red zone and they connected when it mattered most, with Eli targeting him despite his first few targets ending incomplete. I hope yesterday's game lent some insight to Nicks' tremendous situation with the New York Football Giants.
Yeah. I thought Nicks looked good and was close to having a big day; Manning just missed him on a couple routes. The only play I can think where he looked bad was the interception in the first quarter. The ball was way behind him and I think it was a reasonable drop, but when it caromed and was intercepted, Nicks just stood there and didn't try to make a play. It looked worse in real time than it did on the replay. I think he just didn't see the ball get deflected so drastically and was wondering what was going on. But for a second it looked like he was quitting on the play.
From the attitude perspective I really wouldn't worry too much, he seems like a quiet dude and I haven't noticed him sulking. Though, if you did see something yesterday it can almost be understood-it was a rough game for the Giants. The Titans roughed them up and goaded them into 6 Personal Fouls. So maybe he felt like the Titans were playing dirty or something. Though he definitely drops some balls (to be expected from a young receiver) Nicks has stud potential. Big, fast and physical. His biggest problem right now is that Eli spreads the ball around (Smith, Manningham, Boss, Bradshaw..) and teams dont respect the Giants ability to run the ball. Last week vs Indy he was double covered a lot of the game too.In short, he can't be counted on as a #1, but he is going to have some big games this year. My prediction is 65 receptions, 1050 yards, 8 TDs.Sincerely,Hakeem Nicks' FanClub
He did get in a borderline fistfight during a preseason game but I guess that happens.
Hit the nail on the head on this one..
Yea there aren't too many players I'd trade him for..Roddy and Austin are the only 2 at this point. Nick's is just too good.
Right except for the new stadium not having swirling winds. During the Giants first practice there, the one Hixon got hurt at, Tuck pointed out that the goal post flags on each end were blowing in towards the field at the same time.
Yea forget about the whole wind thing im not an engineer although ive been to all 3 games and 2 jets game and the winds are definitly not as bad as they were in the old stadium
No. I have both Nicks Andre.. & Fitz and needless to say so far Nicks has been my number 1..and I am a huge Andre fan
