Ourlads-Depth Charts (1 Viewer)

[Keg]

https://secure.ourlads.com/SubscriptionLogin.cfm

Ourlads NFL Depth Charts are now available by subscription. The charts may be accessed free if you are a current subscriber to either the Ourlads' Guide or the Total Package. If you are not a Guide or Total Package subscriber, an Annual Depth Chart Subscription package can be purchased for $25.00.

Here is the link to another site that I have used that is pretty good(right now the site is down and that has never happened before)http://www.localsports.ca/nfl_rosters/

 

[coolnerd]

Even as a purchaser of Ourlads' products, I think this is a mistake. One of the reasons several years ago that I started buying the guide was that they built my trust by having update and accurate as possible depth charts. They are giving me a reason not to subscribe versus generating a new income stream.

 

[Bri]

Seems silly to me but I've been wrong before. You'd be surprised what info people will pay for. I know someone that pays 20 bucks to have the lines emailed to him rather than openning the paper or using the web.

 

[3C's]

https://secure.ourlads.com/SubscriptionLogin.cfm

Ourlads NFL Depth Charts are now available by subscription. The charts may be accessed free if you are a current subscriber to either the Ourlads' Guide or the Total Package. If you are not a Guide or Total Package subscriber, an Annual Depth Chart Subscription package can be purchased for $25.00.

That blows. Now I have to change my MFL page. Again.Why do you have the bear factory in your sig?

 

[Keg]

I have found this site to be very good but right now it is down and I have never seen it not work

http://www.localsports.ca/nfl_rosters/

gonna add this link into my OP and hope that it is just a problem today and not going forward

 

[Keg]

https://secure.ourlads.com/SubscriptionLogin.cfm

Ourlads NFL Depth Charts are now available by subscription. The charts may be accessed free if you are a current subscriber to either the Ourlads' Guide or the Total Package. If you are not a Guide or Total Package subscriber, an Annual Depth Chart Subscription package can be purchased for $25.00.

That blows. Now I have to change my MFL page. Again.Why do you have the bear factory in your sig?

because my wife and I own it

 

[3C's]

https://secure.ourlads.com/SubscriptionLogin.cfm

Ourlads NFL Depth Charts are now available by subscription. The charts may be accessed free if you are a current subscriber to either the Ourlads' Guide or the Total Package. If you are not a Guide or Total Package subscriber, an Annual Depth Chart Subscription package can be purchased for $25.00.

That blows. Now I have to change my MFL page. Again.Why do you have the bear factory in your sig?

because my wife and I own it

no ####?! In the outlet mall, right? When my daughter was younger, she used to love going there.

 

[Renegades of Funk]

I wouldn't give that turd, Dan Shonka, that runs Ourlads a penny. He ran a scam and sold off retired racing dogs to labs to be mutilated. He said he was finding homes for the retired dogs. This guy makes me sick.

http://www.doj.state.wi.us/news/2003/nr020703_DCI.asp

 

[Renegades of Funk]

Here is another link that gives more details on the story:

http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/Su...otherdealer.htm

I hope Ourlads goes out of business.

 

[Bri]

Here is another link that gives more details on the story:

http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/Su...otherdealer.htm

I hope Ourlads goes out of business.

that's despicableSome site, was it our lads?, had an owner or co-owner pass away or have a heart attack or somesuch during the spring so he stopped running the site, of course. Can't recall....obviously if it's ourlads I'd have a followup Q. This ring any bells with anyone?

 

[pinequick]

https://secure.ourlads.com/SubscriptionLogin.cfm

Ourlads NFL Depth Charts are now available by subscription. The charts may be accessed free if you are a current subscriber to either the Ourlads' Guide or the Total Package. If you are not a Guide or Total Package subscriber, an Annual Depth Chart Subscription package can be purchased for $25.00.

Here is the link to another site that I have used that is pretty good(right now the site is down and that has never happened before)http://www.localsports.ca/nfl_rosters/

???Doesn't Footballguys have depth charts, and the whole subscription here is $25?

Am I missing something? Enlighten me. . .

 

[3C's]

Here is another link that gives more details on the story:

http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/Su...otherdealer.htm

I hope Ourlads goes out of business.

that's despicableSome site, was it our lads?, had an owner or co-owner pass away or have a heart attack or somesuch during the spring so he stopped running the site, of course. Can't recall....obviously if it's ourlads I'd have a followup Q. This ring any bells with anyone?

Joel Bushbaum?

 

[Marauder]

 

[Jason Wood]

Huh, I know a place you can get stone-cold accurate depth charts virtually all year round for that price, and they throw in about 40,000 pages of other content for free.

 

[pinequick]

Huh, I know a place you can get stone-cold accurate depth charts virtually all year round for that price, and they throw in about 40,000 pages of other content for free.

Okay, so I'm not missing something.Why the heck would anybody pay 25 bucks for depth charts???

 

[hector31]

Thanks for the story. I used to use that site. I never will again. That dog story is terrible.

 

[onionsack]

Thanks for the story. I used to use that site. I never will again. That dog story is terrible.

Very happy to see that people are finally getting the message on this turd of a human being. How anybody of conscience can put another shilling in this guy's wallet is beyond me.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...6&hl=Shonka (post #8)

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...1&hl=Shonka (post#7)

 

[trader jake]

And Ourlads gets deleted from thousands of bookmark pages.

Poor business decision imo. The traffic (potential customers) that went to that site because of those depth charts was huge. Now they will be forgotten and not visited by 99% of the growing fantasy football community. FBG's keep their message boards free for this exact reason.

 

[Grimmett]

Here is another link that gives more details on the story:

http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/Su...otherdealer.htm

I hope Ourlads goes out of business.

that's despicableSome site, was it our lads?, had an owner or co-owner pass away or have a heart attack or somesuch during the spring so he stopped running the site, of course. Can't recall....obviously if it's ourlads I'd have a followup Q. This ring any bells with anyone?

Joel Bushbaum?

I reckon he's the one you're thinking of but wasn't he a Pro Football Weekly guy?

 

[Bri]

Here is another link that gives more details on the story:

http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/Su...otherdealer.htm

I hope Ourlads goes out of business.

that's despicableSome site, was it our lads?, had an owner or co-owner pass away or have a heart attack or somesuch during the spring so he stopped running the site, of course. Can't recall....obviously if it's ourlads I'd have a followup Q. This ring any bells with anyone?

Joel Bushbaum?

I reckon he's the one you're thinking of but wasn't he a Pro Football Weekly guy?

Maybe...hmmm this is gonna bug me for a few days til it "hits me". Thanks for your help though Renegads and 3cs

 

[Bri]

Here is another link that gives more details on the story:

http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/Su...otherdealer.htm

I hope Ourlads goes out of business.

BTW this reminded me of that HBO special earlier this year.

 

[coolnerd]

Here is another link that gives more details on the story:

http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/Su...otherdealer.htm

I hope Ourlads goes out of business.

that's despicableSome site, was it our lads?, had an owner or co-owner pass away or have a heart attack or somesuch during the spring so he stopped running the site, of course. Can't recall....obviously if it's ourlads I'd have a followup Q. This ring any bells with anyone?

Joel Bushbaum?

I reckon he's the one you're thinking of but wasn't he a Pro Football Weekly guy?

Joel worked exclusively for profootballweekly and did some radio.The original owner retired.

http://ourlads.com/pressreleases.cfm

Press Releases

December 29, 2004

Dear Faithful Ourlads' Subscribers,

My name is Dan Shonka. I am a sixteen-year NFL scouting veteran with the Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Kansas City Chiefs, and National Football Scouting. In 2003, I was President of Pro Scout Confidential, a player personnel consulting firm that worked with teams and agents. (See my website at proscoutconfidential). In addition, my wife Peggy and I published College Football Preview, a small college football magazine, for 10 years from 1988-1997.

During my last four years at National I was rated as one of the top scouts by general managers and college directors before joining the Eagles after the 1994 draft. It has been my good fortune to work as an area, regional, and national scout. In addition, I was a college assistant coach, head coach, and recruiter for 13 years prior to scouting.

Intent film study is a blue collar job. I love player personnel work. I hope my passion and enthusiasm for my job will be clearly evident in my work for you as subscribers of Ourlads' Scouting Services. Ourlads' has been America's top independent professional football scouting organization for over 23 years. Some companies get more publicity or self promotion. Some say they are "the book the scouts buy." But as a subscriber to Ourlads', you know America's biggest secret. Ourlads' evaluations are based on solid tape and live observation. I can confidently say that Ourlads' is the best because every ball club I worked for had several copies and I was amazed how Tom, Phil, and the Laddies hit on the players. In addition, I had talks with several top agents in 2003 who used Ourlads' as a scouting bible. Numerous agents graded the various scouting reports out there and they told me that Ourlads' consistently was their top guide for accurate player information. As an NFL scout sitting in a draft room waiting for the next selection, I observed owners, general managers, coaches, and scouts studying and highlighting the newsletters and draft guide. Ourlads' Draft Guide was also popular during the week prior to the draft for information on the numerous mock drafts that were used to simulate the weekend draft.

I want to thank Tom, Catherine, Phil, Mary, the Laddies, et al, for affording me this opportunity to direct Ourlads' Guides. Several of my colleagues have told me that if they had it to do all over again, they would watch their kids play high school sports. One long time scout had five sons, all quarterbacks, and didn't get to see any of them play a high school game. My 16 year old son, Teddy, plays football, basketball, soccer, and baseball. My daughter, Sarah is a sophomore at the University of Northern Iowa where she works part-time in the football office. The Ourlads' family is giving me the cake and letting me eat it too! When I was with National Football Scouting I never had to have an emblem on my shirt or a team logo on my hat to declare I was a football scout. I love to watch the players play. Please visit my former website at www.proscoutconfidential.com. You can look at reports on Kurt Warner and Priest Holmes, my spring report on Robert Gallery, and the free agent players that I've signed. You can add Aaron Elling, the Vikings' kicker to that list. Also, for additional reading , my opinions prior to the 2004 draft and writeups on every player in every All-Star game, go to proscoutconfidential. You will receive this for no charge.

We will continue with the popular newsletters that contain features such as the draft winds, Laddie Awards, and independent player evaluations. Some new features will include the all time free agent teams, scouting 101, among others. Lastly, there is a popular saying that is a good fit for Tom and the Lads-the opportunity for destination lies in doing ordinary things extraordinarily well.

October 8th, 2004

Thomas E. Hepler announced today that he is retiring as President and General Manager of OURLADS' Scouting Services. The company is being taken over by Dan Shonka and the headquarters will be moved from New Jersey to Iowa.

"This second career of mine has been an exciting and enjoyable period of my life and has encompassed almost a quarter of a century," said Hepler. "From a few lads sitting around our computer early on, rolling film (and later video), stalking sidelines, rating players, analyzing the teams, and projecting the draft, the company has been transformed into THE premier independent football scouting organization. I feel Dan Shonka's experience as a player, scout, coach, and businessman portends good things for our lads and our clients."

He later added, "It is conventional to say that I wanted to spend more time with my family, and all of those vague read-between-the-lines statements. When one has passed his seventh decade, those comments are absurd. I will be involved, for some period, as a consultant and expect to spend time doing radio and TV appearances and doing what I enjoy most, evaluating players and reporting my findings. It is that latter aspect that I miss most as, more and more, administrative duties have impacted on my time as we continued to grow."

"When confronted with the thought of letting go, I wasn't sure I wanted to. Two words uttered by one of my most trusted friends, 'It's time' made it all clear - and easy," Hepler further stated in an interview that will eventually appear on the website and in a subsequent newsletter.

 

[TheDemon]

Thanks for the story. I used to use that site. I never will again. That dog story is terrible.

Very happy to see that people are finally getting the message on this turd of a human being. How anybody of conscience can put another shilling in this guy's wallet is beyond me.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...6&hl=Shonka (post #8)

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...1&hl=Shonka (post#7)

Thanks for the info on this scumbag. #### him.

 

[reg]

Huh, I know a place you can get stone-cold accurate depth charts virtually all year round for that price, and they throw in about 40,000 pages of other content for free.

I know a place where you can get dephtcharts for free all year round!!!!http://footballguys.com/depthcharts.htm

 

[Keg]

Huh, I know a place you can get stone-cold accurate depth charts virtually all year round for that price, and they throw in about 40,000 pages of other content for free.

I know a place where you can get dephtcharts for free all year round!!!!http://footballguys.com/depthcharts.htm

yep very true but one of the things i liked about ourlads was that if you clicked on a players name you had all their vital info age, height, weight years in the league etcbut they wont be getting my money going forward

 

[Wingnut]

Huh, I know a place you can get stone-cold accurate depth charts virtually all year round for that price, and they throw in about 40,000 pages of other content for free.

I know a place where you can get dephtcharts for free all year round!!!!http://footballguys.com/depthcharts.htm

yep very true but one of the things i liked about ourlads was that if you clicked on a players name you had all their vital info age, height, weight years in the league etc

Surpsising that FBG hasnt done this yet. Almost every other place a players name is listed on FBG, its clickable. They should see about implementing this in their depth charts.

 

[pinequick]

Joel worked exclusively for profootballweekly and did some radio.

The original owner retired.

http://ourlads.com/pressreleases.cfm

Press Releases

December 29, 2004

Dear Faithful Ourlads' Subscribers,

My name is Dan Shonka. I am a sixteen-year NFL scouting veteran with the Philadelphia Eagles, Washington Redskins, Kansas City Chiefs, and National Football Scouting. In 2003, I was President of Pro Scout Confidential, a player personnel consulting firm that worked with teams and agents. (See my website at proscoutconfidential). In addition, my wife Peggy and I published College Football Preview, a small college football magazine, for 10 years from 1988-1997.

During my last four years at National I was rated as one of the top scouts by general managers and college directors before joining the Eagles after the 1994 draft. It has been my good fortune to work as an area, regional, and national scout. In addition, I was a college assistant coach, head coach, and recruiter for 13 years prior to scouting. I'm a Pisces, I take long walks on the beach, and in my spare time I enjoy torturing dogs or other small, furry mammals.

Updated.

 

[Phurfur]

This is really bad. Depth charts are set by the team they have no input or insight. They are charging for something they have no input on. I guess lazy people will buy it.

 

[redman]

Here is another link that gives more details on the story:

http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/Su...otherdealer.htm

I hope Ourlads goes out of business.

What a turd!

 

[Godsbrother]

Huh, I know a place you can get stone-cold accurate depth charts virtually all year round for that price, and they throw in about 40,000 pages of other content for free.

I know a place where you can get dephtcharts for free all year round!!!!http://footballguys.com/depthcharts.htm

nfl.com also has free depth charts