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Packer v. Browns Pre Season (1 Viewer)

smackdaddies

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Packer v. Browns

2nd qtr, 21 - 14, Clevland up

Both teams look good, but Packers special teams have sucked - Sam Shields is not going to make the team - doing the Roberto Duran imitation

 
Shields wasn't brought in as a returner so I don't think his stinky performance will get him canned. Let's see if he plays more on defense in the 2nd half.

 
McCoy has looked good, till he just threw a jump ball in the end zone, short, plus the pack had coverage both under and over the reciever - int

Rogers looked great 143 qb rating, Flynn is in now, so far has thrown the ball ok, but not really moved the team

 
Shields wasn't brought in as a returner so I don't think his stinky performance will get him canned. Let's see if he plays more on defense in the 2nd half.
Announcers said that Woodson has said good things about S.S., but man, if you hope to make a team as a back up, you have to play well on special teams - two fumbles on returns so far - I like SS - insane speed, can't coach that. But the guy has hands of stone, which I suppose why the packers are playing as a dback, not wr like his senior year in college - this

- but of course Miami didn't trust him fielding the kick off....
 
Shields wasn't brought in as a returner so I don't think his stinky performance will get him canned. Let's see if he plays more on defense in the 2nd half.
He's a project- a free agent converted WR at Miami to a CB. They like his speed and this year he'll probably just be a special teamer. They would like him to be able to return kicks(sparring Nelson and Blackman) but he has dropped too many so far.

Interesting story on Shields

The 5-foot-11, 184-pound Shields has been the surprise of camp, signing as an undrafted free agent with mostly special teams experience at the University of Miami. He was a wide receiver until his senior year, when he switched to cornerback and started 10 of 12 games.

"He's definitely got the speed," Woodson said this week. "He's a fast guy, but he's a young guy and he hasn't played at this level. He still has a lot of learning to do. But one thing you can't coach is speed, and so if he gets the defense down and understands the ins and outs of being a corner, he'll get better and contribute to this team."

Shields considers special teams his ticket to a roster spot, and not just returning punts and kickoffs. In fact, he has struggled to field both cleanly. Rather, it's his ability to chase down punt and kickoff returners - he was Miami's special teams player of the year in 2008 - that could be his most important asset this year.

He'll get a chance to show whether he can handle the physical nature of the NFL on Saturday in the exhibition opener against Cleveland at Lambeau Field.

"That's how you're going to make the team, special teams," Shields said. "That's what the coaches are stressing right now, getting better at special teams."

 
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Half time - game has started to look rough with the 2nd teamers in.

First team offenses looked good.

Kuhn got the short yardage TD run, which could have an impact on Grant

 
Browns QBs - Delhomme and Wallace --were a combined 10 of 15 for 13 yard, 2 TDs and 135.6 rating.

Gotta like that (well, I don't , but if your a brownie, some hope for the year)

 
Browns QBs - Delhomme and Wallace --were a combined 10 of 15 for 13 yard, 2 TDs and 135.6 rating.Gotta like that (well, I don't , but if your a brownie, some hope for the year)
Delhomme looked real good, 3 step drops, accurateGrant is out injured, hit to the head, announcers have said nothing since it happened, no feed back at half time, not sure if he just got his bell rung or what
 
I like that Robiskie was targeted the most of the CLE WRs and was able to score a td. I didn't see the game, but I keep hearing good things about him from TC.

 
Rodgers had a nice td pass to Jennings, couple of nice passes to Finley.

Personally, I think Finley will be a top 3 TE, and the 1st quarter gave no indication of anything different

 
Driver started, looked good. I would not bet against him having another fine year

Meanwhile, Flynn just threw another terrible pass

 
Interesting fact, Havner played TE in first half, doing LB all second half. Good way (plus good sp teams) way to make a team if your not an allstar

And McCoy throws his second int, and again, a terrible throw. DB had good position, got his helmet ripped off by the WR, but a really terrible pass

 
Porter doing punt returns now. Fumbled one of them, this time hesitates, stutter steps before he runs - get the freak up field rookie - you ain't barry sanders

 
Shields is not getting cut.

They are trying him on returns and have been trying to work on his hands.

He has been playing well on D, and they know he is a solid special teams guy (not returner so far though, he was not really a returner even in college).

 
Shields is not getting cut.They are trying him on returns and have been trying to work on his hands.He has been playing well on D, and they know he is a solid special teams guy (not returner so far though, he was not really a returner even in college).
has practice squad written all over him. I just don't see him making the opening day roster if he cant play special teams - I haven't seen him on special teams tonight other than return - no gunner, no coverage. Not sure he is big enough/strong enough to be a gunner. Sure is fast enough. If he has played dback, I have not heard his name called or seen him tonight.
 
Nice Coverage here Smackdaddies.

:confused:

I'm looking forward to geting me some packer passing game in my draft this year.

 
Shields is not getting cut.They are trying him on returns and have been trying to work on his hands.He has been playing well on D, and they know he is a solid special teams guy (not returner so far though, he was not really a returner even in college).
has practice squad written all over him. I just don't see him making the opening day roster if he cant play special teams - I haven't seen him on special teams tonight other than return - no gunner, no coverage. Not sure he is big enough/strong enough to be a gunner. Sure is fast enough. If he has played dback, I have not heard his name called or seen him tonight.
Well, shields just had a great db play (of course he dropped the INT). But great position, got right in front of the receiver, and I mean better position on the ball than the WR
 
Nice Coverage here Smackdaddies. :confused: I'm looking forward to geting me some packer passing game in my draft this year.
da nadaAnd I agree - the only issue is there are so many weapons that Rodgers is a great choice, but the others will have their stats cut compared to other teams which concentrate on fewer recieversAnd a 59 yard fg by Dawson - really nice kick
 
wow, another special teams screw up. Lee drops the ball this time, does pick it up, but should of had a much better return

Packers coaching staff is going to kill the special teams players next practice

 
Shields is not getting cut.They are trying him on returns and have been trying to work on his hands.He has been playing well on D, and they know he is a solid special teams guy (not returner so far though, he was not really a returner even in college).
has practice squad written all over him. I just don't see him making the opening day roster if he cant play special teams - I haven't seen him on special teams tonight other than return - no gunner, no coverage. Not sure he is big enough/strong enough to be a gunner. Sure is fast enough. If he has played dback, I have not heard his name called or seen him tonight.
Who said he can't play special teams?He was a special teams standout I believe in college and they liked that part of it...I think they know he can do the others, but they want to try and use his speed on the returns.He has supposedly impressed big time at DB in camp and will push Bush off the roster IMO.
 
Shields is not getting cut.They are trying him on returns and have been trying to work on his hands.He has been playing well on D, and they know he is a solid special teams guy (not returner so far though, he was not really a returner even in college).
has practice squad written all over him. I just don't see him making the opening day roster if he cant play special teams - I haven't seen him on special teams tonight other than return - no gunner, no coverage. Not sure he is big enough/strong enough to be a gunner. Sure is fast enough. If he has played dback, I have not heard his name called or seen him tonight.
Who said he can't play special teams?He was a special teams standout I believe in college and they liked that part of it...I think they know he can do the others, but they want to try and use his speed on the returns.He has supposedly impressed big time at DB in camp and will push Bush off the roster IMO.
announcers are all over shields for letting recievers off the line without any pressure. I just think shields doesn't have NFL strength yet to play bump and run
 
Packers three RBs - Grant, Jackson, Kuhn - have 7 rushes for 14 yards against the BrownsMay I say, that simply SUCKS
Grant = Steve Slaton of 2009
I can understand if you don't like Grant even if I disagree but he is nothing like Slaton because Grant has played well the past few seasons. I will never get the Grant hate all the guy does is produce and people take rookies and 2nd string players over him.
 
Game summary

1st team offenses - looked great. If Delhomme plays that way in the regular season, good value late in the draft. Packers starting RB were terrible, Grant leaves early with a blow to the head.

1st team defenses - looked bad against 1st string offenses

2nd/3rd string, not good. Pack 3rd string db better than Browns 3rd/4th string QB. Porter good RB stats for the pack, but against scrubs.

Big difference - Packers TERRIBLE special teams, plus too many players pretending they are Roberto Duran. Wow, just insanely bad hands all night by way to many players.

 
Packers three RBs - Grant, Jackson, Kuhn - have 7 rushes for 14 yards against the BrownsMay I say, that simply SUCKS
Grant = Steve Slaton of 2009
I can understand if you don't like Grant even if I disagree but he is nothing like Slaton because Grant has played well the past few seasons. I will never get the Grant hate all the guy does is produce and people take rookies and 2nd string players over him.
Have to agree - Grant has demonstrated ability to be a good RB over several seasons.
 
Shields is not getting cut.

They are trying him on returns and have been trying to work on his hands.

He has been playing well on D, and they know he is a solid special teams guy (not returner so far though, he was not really a returner even in college).
has practice squad written all over him. I just don't see him making the opening day roster if he cant play special teams - I haven't seen him on special teams tonight other than return - no gunner, no coverage. Not sure he is big enough/strong enough to be a gunner. Sure is fast enough. If he has played dback, I have not heard his name called or seen him tonight.
Who said he can't play special teams?He was a special teams standout I believe in college and they liked that part of it...I think they know he can do the others, but they want to try and use his speed on the returns.

He has supposedly impressed big time at DB in camp and will push Bush off the roster IMO.
mmm, no, certainly not based on this game.
 
Shields is not getting cut.

They are trying him on returns and have been trying to work on his hands.

He has been playing well on D, and they know he is a solid special teams guy (not returner so far though, he was not really a returner even in college).
has practice squad written all over him. I just don't see him making the opening day roster if he cant play special teams - I haven't seen him on special teams tonight other than return - no gunner, no coverage. Not sure he is big enough/strong enough to be a gunner. Sure is fast enough. If he has played dback, I have not heard his name called or seen him tonight.
Who said he can't play special teams?He was a special teams standout I believe in college and they liked that part of it...I think they know he can do the others, but they want to try and use his speed on the returns.

He has supposedly impressed big time at DB in camp and will push Bush off the roster IMO.
mmm, no, certainly not based on this game.
I doubt the coaches are basing decisions off of one game.Again, its my opinion, and part of it is a very low opinion of Bush.

 
Shields is not getting cut.

They are trying him on returns and have been trying to work on his hands.

He has been playing well on D, and they know he is a solid special teams guy (not returner so far though, he was not really a returner even in college).
has practice squad written all over him. I just don't see him making the opening day roster if he cant play special teams - I haven't seen him on special teams tonight other than return - no gunner, no coverage. Not sure he is big enough/strong enough to be a gunner. Sure is fast enough. If he has played dback, I have not heard his name called or seen him tonight.
Who said he can't play special teams?He was a special teams standout I believe in college and they liked that part of it...I think they know he can do the others, but they want to try and use his speed on the returns.

He has supposedly impressed big time at DB in camp and will push Bush off the roster IMO.
mmm, no, certainly not based on this game.
I doubt the coaches are basing decisions off of one game.Again, its my opinion, and part of it is a very low opinion of Bush.
Bush plays in 1st half, Shields in 2nd. Coaches have allready told us there opinion based on that fact
 
YOu are reading way too much into one preseason game.

BTW...Bush sucked in coverage again, and his special teams play has dropped significantly over the past several years.

I simply don't think he makes this team.

 
YOu are reading way too much into one preseason game.BTW...Bush sucked in coverage again, and his special teams play has dropped significantly over the past several years.I simply don't think he makes this team.
And your not reading enoughBush plays in 1st half, SS plays in secondBush knows the defense, SS doesntRookies who arent starters need to play good on special teams, SS does an imitation of Roberto Duran, twice. And SS is not big enough or strong enough to play any other position on special teams in the NFL. He is definately not strong enough to play bump and run coverage in the NFL.SS has great speed. He has just yet to show he can use that speed to be a good nfl player. He couldnt do it to show he was a good college player. Practice squad.Bush may be (is) a marginal dback in the pros. SS is not at that level yet to be even a marginal player.
 
Bush was on the gunner like glue with Martin.

I don't think he needs to worry about his roster spot. If we need to rely on him in the 2ndary there's problems

 

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