Patriots being investigated after Colts game (2 Viewers)

[SaintsInDome2006]

Has anyone used the word Patsy here yet????

Because it will apply very soon.

 

[Anarchy99]

Just like everything else, we have no idea what the attendant did or didn't do or what he knows or doesn't know. But automatically he did something nefarious and the Patriots should hang from the gallows. The headlines all over the place are that the league has their guy, caught the culprit, and found the source of the deflated balls. None of that has been proven or disproven at this point.

 

[General Tso]

Another update from my snowmageddon travels today...

Felger and Mazz had a great interview with Mike Westoff, the old Special Teams Coach for the NY Jets, and one of is chief rivals over the years. As much as I dislike the Jets, I have to admit this guy sounded like a very credible guy when it comes to talking about BB. He said a lot of interesting things about BB pushing the envelope over the years. He was very matter of fact about it and told some great stories about former Pats players coming over, etc. In short, the crux of his belief is that BB pushes the envelope right up to the edge, but that he doesn't do anything egregious or out of the ordinary, he just does it better and it is therefore more obvious. Most interesting, he stated pretty emphatically that he doesn't believe the Pats tampered with the balls. He believes Belichik, which I thought was interesting and noteworthy.

But according to BB from his press conference on Saturday the Pats never do anything that even approaches the line.

I cant tell if you are being facetious or not - IMO, BB functions on other side of the line...and the line keeps getting pushed ahead of him.

You guys are all knowledgeable football fans. The crap BB does has been going on for decades. In the late 80's the Giants played the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game at San Fran. As you know Bill Walsh used to script and rehearse the first 15 plays, so that no signals had to be called in from the sidelines. When the 49ers got the ball the first time, Walsh told the refs that his headset wasn't working, which meant that the Giants had to stop using their headsets as well and couldn't call in plays to the defense. San Fran marched down the field and scored easily. Parcells confronted Walsh after the game about it and said, "If you ever do that #### again I'm going to call you out on it". Walsh paused, then slyly remarked, "Just a little gamesmanship Bill".

That's all fine and dandy. But it was BB who stood in front of the mic on Saturday and arrogantly stated how the Pats never do anything to cross or even approach the line.

Exactly....funny watching the guys pimping BB half ### "science" changing the tune to their old tag line of everyone does it. Spin away.

It's funny to watch the apologist's message change as info comes out that doesn't fit their current agenda. After BB's 'science experiment', a couple of them got pretty arrogant about the situation and were laughing at all the "Haters". I'm definitely noticing a quieter tone today.

I can only speak for myself. I am definitely quieter and more concerned today. I think I've been pretty consistent and fair throughout this process. I still believe BB.

Consistently biased would be more accurate.

But hey don't forget BB freaking owned all the haters with his science experiment.....run by his QB accused of cheating.

The only bias I have is against ignorance and trolling, and posting without adding anything to the discussion besides name calling. Yeah, I'll continue to call that out every time I see it. In an unmoderated environment like this, it's really the only hope we have to clean this place up. I honestly don't mind a difference of opinion. I welcome it actually. Diversity is good.

 

[skinsrule05]

Another update from my snowmageddon travels today...

Felger and Mazz had a great interview with Mike Westoff, the old Special Teams Coach for the NY Jets, and one of is chief rivals over the years. As much as I dislike the Jets, I have to admit this guy sounded like a very credible guy when it comes to talking about BB. He said a lot of interesting things about BB pushing the envelope over the years. He was very matter of fact about it and told some great stories about former Pats players coming over, etc. In short, the crux of his belief is that BB pushes the envelope right up to the edge, but that he doesn't do anything egregious or out of the ordinary, he just does it better and it is therefore more obvious. Most interesting, he stated pretty emphatically that he doesn't believe the Pats tampered with the balls. He believes Belichik, which I thought was interesting and noteworthy.

But according to BB from his press conference on Saturday the Pats never do anything that even approaches the line.

I cant tell if you are being facetious or not - IMO, BB functions on other side of the line...and the line keeps getting pushed ahead of him.

You guys are all knowledgeable football fans. The crap BB does has been going on for decades. In the late 80's the Giants played the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game at San Fran. As you know Bill Walsh used to script and rehearse the first 15 plays, so that no signals had to be called in from the sidelines. When the 49ers got the ball the first time, Walsh told the refs that his headset wasn't working, which meant that the Giants had to stop using their headsets as well and couldn't call in plays to the defense. San Fran marched down the field and scored easily. Parcells confronted Walsh after the game about it and said, "If you ever do that #### again I'm going to call you out on it". Walsh paused, then slyly remarked, "Just a little gamesmanship Bill".

That's all fine and dandy. But it was BB who stood in front of the mic on Saturday and arrogantly stated how the Pats never do anything to cross or even approach the line.

Exactly....funny watching the guys pimping BB half ### "science" changing the tune to their old tag line of everyone does it. Spin away.

It's funny to watch the apologist's message change as info comes out that doesn't fit their current agenda. After BB's 'science experiment', a couple of them got pretty arrogant about the situation and were laughing at all the "Haters". I'm definitely noticing a quieter tone today.

Oh sorry, I've been busy. I'm still being arrogant and laughing at the haters. Belichick's conference was the nail in the coffin. The NFL won't find anything and I doubt there'll be as much as a $25,000 fine.

I don't think you have been paying attention today then.

 

[Da Guru]

80 pages on 1.5 lbs of PSI air..... there will not be 40 pages on the Super Bowl game itself.

90 pages on 1.5 lbs of PSI air.

97 pages.

Will we hit 100 pages on 1.5 lbs of air??

 

[metoo]

I honestly do not think there is any doubt whatsoever that the air was let out intentionally and I also think Brady is lying through his teeth.

I consider myself pretty unbiased on this, but to me, it's pretty obvious they intentionally broke the rules - if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's a duck...that sort of thing.

To me Brady looked uncomfortable in the interview last week and that's when I felt there was more to this. I ignore anything BB says because I don't think he has a problem with lying.

 

[Old Smiley]

Sharks of Vegas ‏@SharksOfVegas 2h2 hours ago

You do realize the locker room attendant was one of the first 40 people interviewed early last week right?

Sharks of Vegas ‏@SharksOfVegas 22m22 minutes ago

Our source said THURSDAY NIGHT, the NFL has NO proof and no sanctions will be handed down. We stand by that.

 

[The General]

I honestly do not think there is any doubt whatsoever that the air was let out intentionally and I also think Brady is lying through his teeth.

I consider myself pretty unbiased on this, but to me, it's pretty obvious they intentionally broke the rules - if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, it's a duck...that sort of thing.

To me Brady looked uncomfortable in the interview last week and that's when I felt there was more to this. I ignore anything BB says because I don't think he has a problem with lying.

Here's the thing

 

[Late225]

Patriots fumble percentage became a statistical anomaly the season after Brady lobbied the league to change the rules about bringing their own game balls. http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2015/the-new-england-patriots-mysteriously-became-fumble-proof-in-2007

 

[Old Smiley]

Ted Wells says #DeflateGate investigation won’t be a quick one

So, I guess, game on? Go Pats?

Don't worry that someone at the league office is trying to torpedo us?

 

[PatsWillWin]

Another update from my snowmageddon travels today...

Felger and Mazz had a great interview with Mike Westoff, the old Special Teams Coach for the NY Jets, and one of is chief rivals over the years. As much as I dislike the Jets, I have to admit this guy sounded like a very credible guy when it comes to talking about BB. He said a lot of interesting things about BB pushing the envelope over the years. He was very matter of fact about it and told some great stories about former Pats players coming over, etc. In short, the crux of his belief is that BB pushes the envelope right up to the edge, but that he doesn't do anything egregious or out of the ordinary, he just does it better and it is therefore more obvious. Most interesting, he stated pretty emphatically that he doesn't believe the Pats tampered with the balls. He believes Belichik, which I thought was interesting and noteworthy.

But according to BB from his press conference on Saturday the Pats never do anything that even approaches the line.

I cant tell if you are being facetious or not - IMO, BB functions on other side of the line...and the line keeps getting pushed ahead of him.

You guys are all knowledgeable football fans. The crap BB does has been going on for decades. In the late 80's the Giants played the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game at San Fran. As you know Bill Walsh used to script and rehearse the first 15 plays, so that no signals had to be called in from the sidelines. When the 49ers got the ball the first time, Walsh told the refs that his headset wasn't working, which meant that the Giants had to stop using their headsets as well and couldn't call in plays to the defense. San Fran marched down the field and scored easily. Parcells confronted Walsh after the game about it and said, "If you ever do that #### again I'm going to call you out on it". Walsh paused, then slyly remarked, "Just a little gamesmanship Bill".

That's all fine and dandy. But it was BB who stood in front of the mic on Saturday and arrogantly stated how the Pats never do anything to cross or even approach the line.

Exactly....funny watching the guys pimping BB half ### "science" changing the tune to their old tag line of everyone does it. Spin away.

It's funny to watch the apologist's message change as info comes out that doesn't fit their current agenda. After BB's 'science experiment', a couple of them got pretty arrogant about the situation and were laughing at all the "Haters". I'm definitely noticing a quieter tone today.

Oh sorry, I've been busy. I'm still being arrogant and laughing at the haters. Belichick's conference was the nail in the coffin. The NFL won't find anything and I doubt there'll be as much as a $25,000 fine.

I don't think you have been paying attention today then.

Yeah, I'm up to speed. Doesn't move the needle for me. Media's been way off on this since the start (strangely, always counter to the Patriots' interests). This is no different to me.

 

[GoBirds]

Wow. What a big F-U to the League, the media, and the haters. He couldn't have been more emphatic. Wish he would have done this during Spygate.

Now watch all the mediots who blow with the wind change their tune. This thing blows over and is DEAD.

Nailed it.

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

Another update from my snowmageddon travels today...

Felger and Mazz had a great interview with Mike Westoff, the old Special Teams Coach for the NY Jets, and one of is chief rivals over the years. As much as I dislike the Jets, I have to admit this guy sounded like a very credible guy when it comes to talking about BB. He said a lot of interesting things about BB pushing the envelope over the years. He was very matter of fact about it and told some great stories about former Pats players coming over, etc. In short, the crux of his belief is that BB pushes the envelope right up to the edge, but that he doesn't do anything egregious or out of the ordinary, he just does it better and it is therefore more obvious. Most interesting, he stated pretty emphatically that he doesn't believe the Pats tampered with the balls. He believes Belichik, which I thought was interesting and noteworthy.

But according to BB from his press conference on Saturday the Pats never do anything that even approaches the line.

I cant tell if you are being facetious or not - IMO, BB functions on other side of the line...and the line keeps getting pushed ahead of him.

You guys are all knowledgeable football fans. The crap BB does has been going on for decades. In the late 80's the Giants played the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game at San Fran. As you know Bill Walsh used to script and rehearse the first 15 plays, so that no signals had to be called in from the sidelines. When the 49ers got the ball the first time, Walsh told the refs that his headset wasn't working, which meant that the Giants had to stop using their headsets as well and couldn't call in plays to the defense. San Fran marched down the field and scored easily. Parcells confronted Walsh after the game about it and said, "If you ever do that #### again I'm going to call you out on it". Walsh paused, then slyly remarked, "Just a little gamesmanship Bill".

That's all fine and dandy. But it was BB who stood in front of the mic on Saturday and arrogantly stated how the Pats never do anything to cross or even approach the line.

Exactly....funny watching the guys pimping BB half ### "science" changing the tune to their old tag line of everyone does it. Spin away.

It's funny to watch the apologist's message change as info comes out that doesn't fit their current agenda. After BB's 'science experiment', a couple of them got pretty arrogant about the situation and were laughing at all the "Haters". I'm definitely noticing a quieter tone today.

I can only speak for myself. I am definitely quieter and more concerned today. I think I've been pretty consistent and fair throughout this process. I still believe BB.

Consistently biased would be more accurate.

But hey don't forget BB freaking owned all the haters with his science experiment.....run by his QB accused of cheating.

Definitely, one of the worst 3 Pats fans in here. Thought he was going to have a meltdown after BB's presser, saying the Pats should sue just about everyone. Funny ####. This has been the funniest thread on this board in a long long time. Watching these guys go from cocky as hell to almost meek has been hilarious. Damn, I outgrew wrapping my identity around my fandom like 20'years ago.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Patriots fumble percentage became a statistical anomaly the season after Brady lobbied the league to change the rules about bringing their own game balls. http://www.sharpfootballanalysis.com/blog/2015/the-new-england-patriots-mysteriously-became-fumble-proof-in-2007

Hey, three days ago called, they want their anti-Patriots blog posts back.

 

[Baloney Sandwich]

Kraft ripping the media and calling on the NFL to apologize to Belichick and Brady unless they can definitely prove the Pats tampered with the footballs. Here comes Bill.

 

[General Tso]

Another update from my snowmageddon travels today...

Felger and Mazz had a great interview with Mike Westoff, the old Special Teams Coach for the NY Jets, and one of is chief rivals over the years. As much as I dislike the Jets, I have to admit this guy sounded like a very credible guy when it comes to talking about BB. He said a lot of interesting things about BB pushing the envelope over the years. He was very matter of fact about it and told some great stories about former Pats players coming over, etc. In short, the crux of his belief is that BB pushes the envelope right up to the edge, but that he doesn't do anything egregious or out of the ordinary, he just does it better and it is therefore more obvious. Most interesting, he stated pretty emphatically that he doesn't believe the Pats tampered with the balls. He believes Belichik, which I thought was interesting and noteworthy.

But according to BB from his press conference on Saturday the Pats never do anything that even approaches the line.

I cant tell if you are being facetious or not - IMO, BB functions on other side of the line...and the line keeps getting pushed ahead of him.

You guys are all knowledgeable football fans. The crap BB does has been going on for decades. In the late 80's the Giants played the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game at San Fran. As you know Bill Walsh used to script and rehearse the first 15 plays, so that no signals had to be called in from the sidelines. When the 49ers got the ball the first time, Walsh told the refs that his headset wasn't working, which meant that the Giants had to stop using their headsets as well and couldn't call in plays to the defense. San Fran marched down the field and scored easily. Parcells confronted Walsh after the game about it and said, "If you ever do that #### again I'm going to call you out on it". Walsh paused, then slyly remarked, "Just a little gamesmanship Bill".

That's all fine and dandy. But it was BB who stood in front of the mic on Saturday and arrogantly stated how the Pats never do anything to cross or even approach the line.

Exactly....funny watching the guys pimping BB half ### "science" changing the tune to their old tag line of everyone does it. Spin away.

It's funny to watch the apologist's message change as info comes out that doesn't fit their current agenda. After BB's 'science experiment', a couple of them got pretty arrogant about the situation and were laughing at all the "Haters". I'm definitely noticing a quieter tone today.

I can only speak for myself. I am definitely quieter and more concerned today. I think I've been pretty consistent and fair throughout this process. I still believe BB.

Consistently biased would be more accurate.

But hey don't forget BB freaking owned all the haters with his science experiment.....run by his QB accused of cheating.

Definitely, one of the worst 3 Pats fans in here. Thought he was going to have a meltdown after BB's presser, saying the Pats should sue just about everyone. Funny ####. This has been the funniest thread on this board in a long long time. Watching these guys go from cocky as hell to almost meek has been hilarious. Damn, I outgrew wrapping my identity around my fandom like 20'years ago.

Wrapping my identity around my fandom? LOL. You don't know what you are talking about ace. My ire on Saturday was directed at the NFL not because it's the Pats, but because I'm sick of Goodell and his cronies ruining the league. I've reacted just as strongly on many other issues this year, including Ray Rice, Peterson, the Dez Bryant call, etc. So can the personal attacks, eh? You'll lose that battle, I can guarantee you that.

 

[General Tso]

Kraft ripping the media and calling on the NFL to apologize to Belichick and Brady unless they can definitely prove the Pats tampered with the footballs. Here comes Bill.

Wow. Any supposed "friendship" that existed between Goodell and Kraft is clearly long gone. That was as scathing as it gets from Bob Kraft.The Pats have once again gone all-in. In no uncertain terms.

 

[PatsWillWin]

Wow. Kraft throwing all of his weight behind Belichick.

Pretty funny considering the Ron Borges et. al. reports speculating that Belichick could be FIRED over this.

Salty haters, please stop saying that all the homers are becoming "meek." I'm still here, I'm still laughing at all of your heavy breathing and watering mouths and awkward boners over the idea that some kind of hammer is going to come down on the Patriots.

We'll have a mid-February footnote about the Wells investigation finding nothing.

 

[Run It Up]

Kraft is going all in. Line drawn, #### Goodell, #### the media.

 

[The General]

It's going to be pretty awkward next time Kraft has Goodell over for a sleep over.

 

[Flying Elvis]

Damn. Missed this one too and it's not on the app yet. Link?

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

Another update from my snowmageddon travels today...

Felger and Mazz had a great interview with Mike Westoff, the old Special Teams Coach for the NY Jets, and one of is chief rivals over the years. As much as I dislike the Jets, I have to admit this guy sounded like a very credible guy when it comes to talking about BB. He said a lot of interesting things about BB pushing the envelope over the years. He was very matter of fact about it and told some great stories about former Pats players coming over, etc. In short, the crux of his belief is that BB pushes the envelope right up to the edge, but that he doesn't do anything egregious or out of the ordinary, he just does it better and it is therefore more obvious. Most interesting, he stated pretty emphatically that he doesn't believe the Pats tampered with the balls. He believes Belichik, which I thought was interesting and noteworthy.

But according to BB from his press conference on Saturday the Pats never do anything that even approaches the line.

I cant tell if you are being facetious or not - IMO, BB functions on other side of the line...and the line keeps getting pushed ahead of him.

You guys are all knowledgeable football fans. The crap BB does has been going on for decades. In the late 80's the Giants played the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game at San Fran. As you know Bill Walsh used to script and rehearse the first 15 plays, so that no signals had to be called in from the sidelines. When the 49ers got the ball the first time, Walsh told the refs that his headset wasn't working, which meant that the Giants had to stop using their headsets as well and couldn't call in plays to the defense. San Fran marched down the field and scored easily. Parcells confronted Walsh after the game about it and said, "If you ever do that #### again I'm going to call you out on it". Walsh paused, then slyly remarked, "Just a little gamesmanship Bill".

That's all fine and dandy. But it was BB who stood in front of the mic on Saturday and arrogantly stated how the Pats never do anything to cross or even approach the line.

Exactly....funny watching the guys pimping BB half ### "science" changing the tune to their old tag line of everyone does it. Spin away.

It's funny to watch the apologist's message change as info comes out that doesn't fit their current agenda. After BB's 'science experiment', a couple of them got pretty arrogant about the situation and were laughing at all the "Haters". I'm definitely noticing a quieter tone today.

I can only speak for myself. I am definitely quieter and more concerned today. I think I've been pretty consistent and fair throughout this process. I still believe BB.

Consistently biased would be more accurate.

But hey don't forget BB freaking owned all the haters with his science experiment.....run by his QB accused of cheating.

Definitely, one of the worst 3 Pats fans in here. Thought he was going to have a meltdown after BB's presser, saying the Pats should sue just about everyone. Funny ####. This has been the funniest thread on this board in a long long time. Watching these guys go from cocky as hell to almost meek has been hilarious. Damn, I outgrew wrapping my identity around my fandom like 20'years ago.

Wrapping my identity around my fandom? LOL. You don't know what you are talking about ace. My ire on Saturday was directed at the NFL not because it's the Pats, but because I'm sick of Goodell and his cronies ruining the league. I've reacted just as strongly on many other issues this year, including Ray Rice, Peterson, the Dez Bryant call, etc. So can the personal attacks, eh? You'll lose that battle, I can guarantee you that.

Settle down Beav. That wasn't much of a personal attack. Act like a wingnut, get called a wingnut. It's because of fans like you and several others here that so many can't stand your team, your heroes, and your fan base.

"You'll lose that battle...."? Wooooooooh rofl.

 

[Run It Up]

It's going to be pretty awkward next time Kraft has Goodell over for a sleep over.

Thats what you think, BB and Brady giving Jane Skinner a wobbly H while they eiffel tower. Goodell just sits in the corner in the darkness.

 

[MG345]

It's going to be pretty awkward next time Kraft has Goodell over for a sleep over.

https://i.imgflip.com/guu45.jpg

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

Kraft ripping the media and calling on the NFL to apologize to Belichick and Brady unless they can definitely prove the Pats tampered with the footballs. Here comes Bill.

Wow. Any supposed "friendship" that existed between Goodell and Kraft is clearly long gone. That was as scathing as it gets from Bob Kraft.The Pats have once again gone all-in. In no uncertain terms.

You going to get all loud and worked up and excited again?

 

[General Tso]

Wow. What a big F-U to the League, the media, and the haters. He couldn't have been more emphatic. Wish he would have done this during Spygate.

Now watch all the mediots who blow with the wind change their tune. This thing blows over and is DEAD.

Nailed it.

Don't you have some Pro Bowl highlights to watch? Seriously, dude, get a ####### life. Go out and get a cheesesteak or something. You are an incessant troll that brings nothing of value whatsoever to this forum. Do you understand that? Nothing of value, like a gnat or a piece of gum on the pavement.

 

[GoBirds]

You have to think Pats ballboy is smart enough to go in a room that doesn't have cameras....there's no way they can have evidence unless the guy cracks.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

quick question: were the Patriots balls re-inflated at halftime and put back into play, or were they kept inside during the 2nd half?

Pats balls were reportedly reinflated at halftime and put back in play.

FWIW, I don't think that is true

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2015/01/21/source-patriots-used-backup-balls-in-second-half-of-sundays-game/

The Patriots used 12 backup footballs for the second half of Sunday’s AFC championship game after issues were found with most of the original 12 balls used by the offense in the first half, an organizational source told WEEI’s Joe Zarbano.

Team spokesman Stacey James confirmed to WEEI.com that the team had 24 footballs available, 12 of which were tested by the officials pregame and another dozen stored inside as backups.

After the officials found that the majority of the balls used in the first half were below the acceptable PSI as mandated by the NFL, the backup balls were brought in. According to the source, the backup balls were tested and found to be at the correct levels, and subsequently put into play — just barely in time, as the second half already had started by the time the testing was completed. This is why the officials stopped play and swapped out the kicking ball on the first play from scrimmage of the second half.

 

[Thunderlips]

Like I've said before, makes no sense for the NFL to have let this go on as long as they've had unless there's meat on the bone. Doesn't help the image of the league and it takes away from the Super Bowl.

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

Wow. What a big F-U to the League, the media, and the haters. He couldn't have been more emphatic. Wish he would have done this during Spygate.

Now watch all the mediots who blow with the wind change their tune. This thing blows over and is DEAD.

Nailed it.

Don't you have some Pro Bowl highlights to watch? Seriously, dude, get a ####### life. Go out and get a cheesesteak or something. You are an incessant troll that brings nothing of value whatsoever to this forum. Do you understand that? Nothing of value, like a gnat or a piece of gum on the pavement.

Uh oh, meltdown incoming

 

[General Tso]

Another update from my snowmageddon travels today...

Felger and Mazz had a great interview with Mike Westoff, the old Special Teams Coach for the NY Jets, and one of is chief rivals over the years. As much as I dislike the Jets, I have to admit this guy sounded like a very credible guy when it comes to talking about BB. He said a lot of interesting things about BB pushing the envelope over the years. He was very matter of fact about it and told some great stories about former Pats players coming over, etc. In short, the crux of his belief is that BB pushes the envelope right up to the edge, but that he doesn't do anything egregious or out of the ordinary, he just does it better and it is therefore more obvious. Most interesting, he stated pretty emphatically that he doesn't believe the Pats tampered with the balls. He believes Belichik, which I thought was interesting and noteworthy.

But according to BB from his press conference on Saturday the Pats never do anything that even approaches the line.

I cant tell if you are being facetious or not - IMO, BB functions on other side of the line...and the line keeps getting pushed ahead of him.

You guys are all knowledgeable football fans. The crap BB does has been going on for decades. In the late 80's the Giants played the 49ers in the NFC Championship Game at San Fran. As you know Bill Walsh used to script and rehearse the first 15 plays, so that no signals had to be called in from the sidelines. When the 49ers got the ball the first time, Walsh told the refs that his headset wasn't working, which meant that the Giants had to stop using their headsets as well and couldn't call in plays to the defense. San Fran marched down the field and scored easily. Parcells confronted Walsh after the game about it and said, "If you ever do that #### again I'm going to call you out on it". Walsh paused, then slyly remarked, "Just a little gamesmanship Bill".

That's all fine and dandy. But it was BB who stood in front of the mic on Saturday and arrogantly stated how the Pats never do anything to cross or even approach the line.

Exactly....funny watching the guys pimping BB half ### "science" changing the tune to their old tag line of everyone does it. Spin away.

It's funny to watch the apologist's message change as info comes out that doesn't fit their current agenda. After BB's 'science experiment', a couple of them got pretty arrogant about the situation and were laughing at all the "Haters". I'm definitely noticing a quieter tone today.

I can only speak for myself. I am definitely quieter and more concerned today. I think I've been pretty consistent and fair throughout this process. I still believe BB.

Consistently biased would be more accurate.

But hey don't forget BB freaking owned all the haters with his science experiment.....run by his QB accused of cheating.

Definitely, one of the worst 3 Pats fans in here. Thought he was going to have a meltdown after BB's presser, saying the Pats should sue just about everyone. Funny ####. This has been the funniest thread on this board in a long long time. Watching these guys go from cocky as hell to almost meek has been hilarious. Damn, I outgrew wrapping my identity around my fandom like 20'years ago.

Wrapping my identity around my fandom? LOL. You don't know what you are talking about ace. My ire on Saturday was directed at the NFL not because it's the Pats, but because I'm sick of Goodell and his cronies ruining the league. I've reacted just as strongly on many other issues this year, including Ray Rice, Peterson, the Dez Bryant call, etc. So can the personal attacks, eh? You'll lose that battle, I can guarantee you that.

Settle down Beav. That wasn't much of a personal attack. Act like a wingnut, get called a wingnut. It's because of fans like you and several others here that so many can't stand your team, your heroes, and your fan base.

"You'll lose that battle...."? Wooooooooh rofl.

OK Junior. Now go do your homework and make sure you brush your teeth before bed. Leave the intelligent football discussions to the adults.

 

[GoBirds]

Wow. What a big F-U to the League, the media, and the haters. He couldn't have been more emphatic. Wish he would have done this during Spygate.

Now watch all the mediots who blow with the wind change their tune. This thing blows over and is DEAD.

Nailed it.

Don't you have some Pro Bowl highlights to watch? Seriously, dude, get a ####### life. Go out and get a cheesesteak or something. You are an incessant troll that brings nothing of value whatsoever to this forum. Do you understand that? Nothing of value, like a gnat or a piece of gum on the pavement.

Is this your warm up to getting emotional about Kraft talking? You act ridiculous and get called on it...that's your fault.

Your like a 12 year old with your insults.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Kraft is going all in. Line drawn, #### Goodell, #### the media.

I didn't see it, was It on the NFL network? Must admit I was a bit concerned not hearing much from Kraft so if he came out and defended BB & TB I say, bout time,,,

 

[General Tso]

Like I've said before, makes no sense for the NFL to have let this go on as long as they've had unless there's meat on the bone. Doesn't help the image of the league and it takes away from the Super Bowl.

That part of it confuses me as well. But then again. The Pats wouldn't be making such emphatic statements like this unless they were certain they did nothing wrong. That's what makes this story so intriguing.

 

[Old Smiley]

Transcript of Kraft?

 

[GoBirds]

Wow. What a big F-U to the League, the media, and the haters. He couldn't have been more emphatic. Wish he would have done this during Spygate.

Now watch all the mediots who blow with the wind change their tune. This thing blows over and is DEAD.

Nailed it.

Don't you have some Pro Bowl highlights to watch? Seriously, dude, get a ####### life. Go out and get a cheesesteak or something. You are an incessant troll that brings nothing of value whatsoever to this forum. Do you understand that? Nothing of value, like a gnat or a piece of gum on the pavement.

Uh oh, meltdown incoming

He is fired up....all the accused cheaters are denying! This is DEAD!

 

[Run It Up]

Kraft is going all in. Line drawn, #### Goodell, #### the media.

I didn't see it, was It on the NFL network? Must admit I was a bit concerned not hearing much from Kraft so if he came out and defended BB & TB I say, bout time,,,

They are talking about it now on NFLN.

He ripped the NFL and the media, expects the NFL to apologize to the entire team and organization.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Like I've said before, makes no sense for the NFL to have let this go on as long as they've had unless there's meat on the bone. Doesn't help the image of the league and it takes away from the Super Bowl.

That very well could be true.

It could also be true that they want to go over everything with a fine toothe comb since there is so much butt hurt coming from pats haters and the NFL knows if they dismissed it quickly the butt hurt crowd is going to claim they swept it under the rug.

 

[General Tso]

Wow. What a big F-U to the League, the media, and the haters. He couldn't have been more emphatic. Wish he would have done this during Spygate.

Now watch all the mediots who blow with the wind change their tune. This thing blows over and is DEAD.

Nailed it.

Don't you have some Pro Bowl highlights to watch? Seriously, dude, get a ####### life. Go out and get a cheesesteak or something. You are an incessant troll that brings nothing of value whatsoever to this forum. Do you understand that? Nothing of value, like a gnat or a piece of gum on the pavement.

Is this your warm up to getting emotional about Kraft talking? You act ridiculous and get called on it...that's your fault. Your like a 12 year old with your insults.

Nah, to be honest I'm just sick and tired of guys like you and Gandolf consistently ruining any chance this place has of being a good forum again. It's clear your only goal in here is to troll me and others. And if that's what gets you guys off, I actually feel a little sorry for you. I'm going to put you two clowns on ignore now. good bye.

 

[Run It Up]

For multiple streams of interviews go to the official Patriots website. Doing some media day stuff they are running like five interviews at a time.

 

[The General]

Transcript of Kraft?

Here

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Kraft is going all in. Line drawn, #### Goodell, #### the media.

I didn't see it, was It on the NFL network? Must admit I was a bit concerned not hearing much from Kraft so if he came out and defended BB & TB I say, bout time,,,

They are talking about it now on NFLN.

He ripped the NFL and the media, expects the NFL to apologize to the entire team and organization.

Thanks,

You saw my "The Patriots used 12 backup footballs for the second half of Sunday’s AFC championship game" above, right.

 

[Old Smiley]

Hope we get some fun dummy audibles on Sunday.

"RG LIZARD! RG LIZARD!!!"

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

Transcript of Kraft?

Here

The link was wrong?

I think that was John "the weasel" Harbaugh or possibly someone from the Colts organization....

 

[Run It Up]

Kraft is going all in. Line drawn, #### Goodell, #### the media.

I didn't see it, was It on the NFL network? Must admit I was a bit concerned not hearing much from Kraft so if he came out and defended BB & TB I say, bout time,,,

They are talking about it now on NFLN.

He ripped the NFL and the media, expects the NFL to apologize to the entire team and organization.

Thanks,

You saw my "The Patriots used 12 backup footballs for the second half of Sunday’s AFC championship game" above, right.

Yes, I was under the impression that was the initial report and it was later reported that they inflated the balls and used them for the second half.

Again, like 90% of this crap reported has been false.

 

[General Tso]

Kraft is going all in. Line drawn, #### Goodell, #### the media.

I didn't see it, was It on the NFL network? Must admit I was a bit concerned not hearing much from Kraft so if he came out and defended BB & TB I say, bout time,,,

It's some NBC Superbowl show on CSN. When he started talking I was thinking, "Hear we go again. Kraft saying nothing and kissing up to the League..." Then all of a sudden he starts slamming the NFL and saying that he expects an apology when it's all over. I've watched Kraft for years, even met him a few times when he was working on moving the team to Hartford, and I've never seen him like that. Awesome job by him.

 

[MG345]

What happens if the NFL actually does have something legit, now that Kraft has doubled down on BB's press conference?

 

[GoBirds]

Wow. What a big F-U to the League, the media, and the haters. He couldn't have been more emphatic. Wish he would have done this during Spygate.

Now watch all the mediots who blow with the wind change their tune. This thing blows over and is DEAD.

Nailed it.

Don't you have some Pro Bowl highlights to watch? Seriously, dude, get a ####### life. Go out and get a cheesesteak or something. You are an incessant troll that brings nothing of value whatsoever to this forum. Do you understand that? Nothing of value, like a gnat or a piece of gum on the pavement.

Is this your warm up to getting emotional about Kraft talking? You act ridiculous and get called on it...that's your fault. Your like a 12 year old with your insults.

Nah, to be honest I'm just sick and tired of guys like you and Gandolf consistently ruining any chance this place has of being a good forum again. It's clear your only goal in here is to troll me and others. And if that's what gets you guys off, I actually feel a little sorry for you. I'm going to put you two clowns on ignore now. good bye.

Nice.

 

[Run It Up]

What happens if the NFL actually does have something legit, now that Kraft has doubled down on BB's press conference?

It would be worse than spygate, not in regards to the game, but in regards to the franchise.

It would make BB, Brady and Kraft all liars.

Absolutely no chance that's the case.

 

[JIslander]

What happens if the NFL actually does have something legit, now that Kraft has doubled down on BB's press conference?

Kraft and the Patriots will secede from the NFL and start another league...with softer balls of course