they should recheck the pressure after EVERY PLAY.sounds like Bill was saying that they hand the balls to the refs and "request" it at a certain psi. If that is the case are you saying alll the teams need to recheck them after the refs did them?I'll still say they should just simply require the teams to be held accountable for being compliant at all times during the game regardless of temperature.Me too -- with the exception that I don't believe they weren't aware of what was happening to the PSI and am not ready to rule out that "the process" was more about temporarily increasing the PSI than it was about "getting the feel" right. And obviously we're taking BB's word that "the process" only added one temporary PSI.But if there's nothing else to it, it'll be really hard to prove shenanigans and I'm not sure what the NFL can do except say cut it out.Having watched that, honestly, I think I'm siding with the Patriots on this one.
In the SPACE SHUTTLEthey should recheck the pressure after EVERY PLAY.sounds like Bill was saying that they hand the balls to the refs and "request" it at a certain psi. If that is the case are you saying alll the teams need to recheck them after the refs did them?I'll still say they should just simply require the teams to be held accountable for being compliant at all times during the game regardless of temperature.Me too -- with the exception that I don't believe they weren't aware of what was happening to the PSI and am not ready to rule out that "the process" was more about temporarily increasing the PSI than it was about "getting the feel" right. And obviously we're taking BB's word that "the process" only added one temporary PSI.But if there's nothing else to it, it'll be really hard to prove shenanigans and I'm not sure what the NFL can do except say cut it out.Having watched that, honestly, I think I'm siding with the Patriots on this one.
Like BB, I am not a scientist either. But if his math and science is accurate, why the Colts footballs didn't drop PSI also needs to be explained.So Pats fans are saying end of story. Don't think so. This cover up is going to cost the Pats big time. Next round will be a different set of "experts" that debunk the Pats "story". Bottom line the Colts balls did not deflate like the Pats.
This has gone beyond the game and it's on the ego of the Pats organization. Let's see if the NFL has the stones to stand up to the Pats.
I don't think you are following this closely enough. It definitely isn't over but it has NOTHING to do with any comparison to what did or did not happen to Indy's footballs. Please go back and try again, perhaps see my talking points from a few posts ago if you need help.So Pats fans are saying end of story. Don't think so. This cover up is going to cost the Pats big time. Next round will be a different set of "experts" that debunk the Pats "story". Bottom line the Colts balls did not deflate like the Pats.
This has gone beyond the game and it's on the ego of the Pats organization. Let's see if the NFL has the stones to stand up to the Pats.
You are going to see a lot of people in the media make some really dumb statements this evening.####### Heath Evans just compared the science approach from BB to this ordeal, to ####### creationism vs evolution
Especially the ones that aren't that smart and don't realize that BB just ended the whole controversy.
You may not think the story is over now....but it's over. We are a couple days away from people getting annoyed if you even bring up #deflategate, that's how over this story is.Its hilarious to me that a head coach and franchise that paid the biggest fine and penalty in the history of professional sports for cheating holds that kind of press conference and the fans of that franchise treat his word as gospel and the case is closed.
Of course he presented another alternative story. That's what he needed to do to get people off their backs in the short term so that they can focus on the Super Bowl.
Newsflash - its not over and the idea that they rubbed down the balls with enough force without using a dryer or tumbling machine to raise the PSI by a full pound while the ball was at room temperature sounds a bit far fetched. The NFL will surely have a response.
Of course they dropped, we just don't know if the league measured them before or after the game.Like BB, I am not a scientist either. But if his math and science is accurate, why the Colts footballs didn't drop PSI also needs to be explained.So Pats fans are saying end of story. Don't think so. This cover up is going to cost the Pats big time. Next round will be a different set of "experts" that debunk the Pats "story". Bottom line the Colts balls did not deflate like the Pats.
This has gone beyond the game and it's on the ego of the Pats organization. Let's see if the NFL has the stones to stand up to the Pats.
newsflash -- it'll be over a week from sundayNewsflash - its not over and the idea that they rubbed down the balls with enough force without using a dryer or tumbling machine to raise the PSI by a full pound while the ball was at room temperature sounds a bit far fetched. The NFL will surely have a response.
We don't know anything, except that PSI's can vary based on a number of factors.Of course they dropped, we just don't know if the league measured them before or after the game.Like BB, I am not a scientist either. But if his math and science is accurate, why the Colts footballs didn't drop PSI also needs to be explained.So Pats fans are saying end of story. Don't think so. This cover up is going to cost the Pats big time. Next round will be a different set of "experts" that debunk the Pats "story". Bottom line the Colts balls did not deflate like the Pats.
This has gone beyond the game and it's on the ego of the Pats organization. Let's see if the NFL has the stones to stand up to the Pats.
Unless they are used by the Colts?We don't know anything, except that PSI's can vary based on a number of factors.Of course they dropped, we just don't know if the league measured them before or after the game.Like BB, I am not a scientist either. But if his math and science is accurate, why the Colts footballs didn't drop PSI also needs to be explained.So Pats fans are saying end of story. Don't think so. This cover up is going to cost the Pats big time. Next round will be a different set of "experts" that debunk the Pats "story". Bottom line the Colts balls did not deflate like the Pats.
This has gone beyond the game and it's on the ego of the Pats organization. Let's see if the NFL has the stones to stand up to the Pats.
Another thing any member of the sports media with a brain will quickly realize, is that PSI's in extremely cold weather games are likely FAR under the 12.5-13.5 PSI range that the media has made out to be the holy grail of football perfection.
Unless they are used by the Colts?We don't know anything, except that PSI's can vary based on a number of factors.Of course they dropped, we just don't know if the league measured them before or after the game.Like BB, I am not a scientist either. But if his math and science is accurate, why the Colts footballs didn't drop PSI also needs to be explained.So Pats fans are saying end of story. Don't think so. This cover up is going to cost the Pats big time. Next round will be a different set of "experts" that debunk the Pats "story". Bottom line the Colts balls did not deflate like the Pats.
This has gone beyond the game and it's on the ego of the Pats organization. Let's see if the NFL has the stones to stand up to the Pats.
Another thing any member of the sports media with a brain will quickly realize, is that PSI's in extremely cold weather games are likely FAR under the 12.5-13.5 PSI range that the media has made out to be the holy grail of football perfection.
Bingo.We don't know anything, except that PSI's can vary based on a number of factors.Of course they dropped, we just don't know if the league measured them before or after the game.Like BB, I am not a scientist either. But if his math and science is accurate, why the Colts footballs didn't drop PSI also needs to be explained.So Pats fans are saying end of story. Don't think so. This cover up is going to cost the Pats big time. Next round will be a different set of "experts" that debunk the Pats "story". Bottom line the Colts balls did not deflate like the Pats.
This has gone beyond the game and it's on the ego of the Pats organization. Let's see if the NFL has the stones to stand up to the Pats.
Another thing any member of the sports media with a brain will quickly realize, is that PSI's in extremely cold weather games are likely FAR under the 12.5-13.5 PSI range that the media has made out to be the holy grail of football perfection.....meaning every team in the NFL has played with "under-inflated footballs" on a regular basis.
Irrelevant. The "what about the Colts" argument will subside quickly when people realize that the NFL's documentation of the PSI readings of the Colts' footballs is extremely....lacking.Unless they are used by the Colts?We don't know anything, except that PSI's can vary based on a number of factors.Of course they dropped, we just don't know if the league measured them before or after the game.Like BB, I am not a scientist either. But if his math and science is accurate, why the Colts footballs didn't drop PSI also needs to be explained.So Pats fans are saying end of story. Don't think so. This cover up is going to cost the Pats big time. Next round will be a different set of "experts" that debunk the Pats "story". Bottom line the Colts balls did not deflate like the Pats.
This has gone beyond the game and it's on the ego of the Pats organization. Let's see if the NFL has the stones to stand up to the Pats.
Another thing any member of the sports media with a brain will quickly realize, is that PSI's in extremely cold weather games are likely FAR under the 12.5-13.5 PSI range that the media has made out to be the holy grail of football perfection.
Suddenly Belicheat is a physics professor schooled in atmospheric pressure?? Theyre going to get killed on media day this os NOT going away.question for the Professor...how come all Colts balls were at the absolute correct weight throughout the entite game???
Dopes gonna be dopes..and Belicheat is the master..
Sinple answer to him and Tommy Asterisk: take a polygraph .if youre as innocent as you claim put it all to rest right now, nice and quick..take a polygraph..and i hope a reporter asks both of these clowns this very question..
Stay clasdy Pats fans you're backing the biggest bunch of cheaters in pro sports history.theyve been doing for a decade since they cheated the Rams Eagles Panthers out of SB victories..
Like the last two Super Bowls post-Spygate?It's over.
You people are all morons.
And you just provided NE fuel.
Thanks everyone.
He stated that is exactly what he is NOT.Suddenly Belicheat is a physics professor schooled in atmospheric pressure?? Theyre going to get killed on media day this os NOT going away.question for the Professor...how come all Colts balls were at the absolute correct weight throughout the entite game???
Dopes gonna be dopes..and Belicheat is the master..
Sinple answer to him and Tommy Asterisk: take a polygraph .if youre as innocent as you claim put it all to rest right now, nice and quick..take a polygraph..and i hope a reporter asks both of these clowns this very question..
Stay clasdy Pats fans you're backing the biggest bunch of cheaters in pro sports history.theyve been doing for a decade since they cheated the Rams Eagles Panthers out of SB victories..
Yup lots riding on this one.Like the last two Super Bowls post-Spygate?It's over.
You people are all morons.
And you just provided NE fuel.
Thanks everyone.
Yep. One of the greatest smackdowns I've seen. Kudos to BB for taking the fight to the league and a ridiculous media.Unless the NFL comes out with some compelling evidence quickly, this thing is over. What Belichik did today was slap a beat down on the NFL and the media the likes of which I've never seen. If this were a prize fight the refs would have stepped in and put a stop to it.
The NFL has knowingly allowed a franchise, a fan base, it's greatest coach, and maybe it's greatest quarterback - to be dragged through the mud for 6 days while they should be preparing for a Superbowl. After what Belichik did today, Goodell has to respond with something. The fact that he hasn't seems to point to what I've suspected all along - that the NFL has nothing here, and that once again Roger Goodell is showing how incompetent and incapable he is - hopefully for the last time.
And the NFL blew it.Unless the NFL comes out with some compelling evidence quickly, this thing is over. What Belichik did today was slap a beat down on the NFL and the media the likes of which I've never seen. If this were a prize fight the refs would have stepped in and put a stop to it.
The NFL has knowingly allowed a franchise, a fan base, it's greatest coach, and maybe it's greatest quarterback - to be dragged through the mud for 6 days while they should be preparing for a Superbowl. After what Belichik did today, Goodell has to respond with something. The fact that he hasn't seems to point to what I've suspected all along - that the NFL has nothing here, and that once again Roger Goodell is showing how incompetent and incapable he is - hopefully for the last time.
Ironically what may come out of this is a complete re-evaluation of Belichik, including Spygate. I've been of the opinion for many years that he and the Pats got a very raw deal in Spygate and in other subsequent accusations. History may wind up being much more kind to Belichik. I wouldn't rule it out.Suddenly Belicheat is a physics professor schooled in atmospheric pressure?? Theyre going to get killed on media day this os NOT going away.question for the Professor...how come all Colts balls were at the absolute correct weight throughout the entite game???
Dopes gonna be dopes..and Belicheat is the master..
Sinple answer to him and Tommy Asterisk: take a polygraph .if youre as innocent as you claim put it all to rest right now, nice and quick..take a polygraph..and i hope a reporter asks both of these clowns this very question..
Stay clasdy Pats fans you're backing the biggest bunch of cheaters in pro sports history.theyve been doing for a decade since they cheated the Rams Eagles Panthers out of SB victories..
Keep grasping at straws.Belichick say he followed the 'letter of the law'...and I believe him. He didn't violate the 'letter of the law' if he heated the balls to 12.5 in a hot room knowing they'd rapidly lose pressure once they hit the cold.
Welcome aboard!Yep. One of the greatest smackdowns I've seen. Kudos to BB for taking the fight to the league and a ridiculous media.Unless the NFL comes out with some compelling evidence quickly, this thing is over. What Belichik did today was slap a beat down on the NFL and the media the likes of which I've never seen. If this were a prize fight the refs would have stepped in and put a stop to it.
The NFL has knowingly allowed a franchise, a fan base, it's greatest coach, and maybe it's greatest quarterback - to be dragged through the mud for 6 days while they should be preparing for a Superbowl. After what Belichik did today, Goodell has to respond with something. The fact that he hasn't seems to point to what I've suspected all along - that the NFL has nothing here, and that once again Roger Goodell is showing how incompetent and incapable he is - hopefully for the last time.
I've always been a huge Brady fan, and while I've been an admirer of Belichick, I've never considered myself a full-fledged Patriots fan. But I think that's finally changed today. Proud of the Pats organization and the way they've handled this ridiculous week. Pats gained a new fan today. Too bad I'm finally joining the fanbase at the likely end of the Brady/Belichick era.
If they were so confident in their little science experiment to figure out what happened, why didn't they document it by video recording it and releasing the video to the media today? That would have put an end to it. Instead they came up with a lame cover story to try to cover their tracks, hoping the media would buy it. Instead, only the gullible and blinded Pats fans are going, "See, told you so"Suddenly Belicheat is a physics professor schooled in atmospheric pressure?? Theyre going to get killed on media day this os NOT going away.question for the Professor...how come all Colts balls were at the absolute correct weight throughout the entite game???
Dopes gonna be dopes..and Belicheat is the master..
Sinple answer to him and Tommy Asterisk: take a polygraph .if youre as innocent as you claim put it all to rest right now, nice and quick..take a polygraph..and i hope a reporter asks both of these clowns this very question..
Stay clasdy Pats fans you're backing the biggest bunch of cheaters in pro sports history.theyve been doing for a decade since they cheated the Rams Eagles Panthers out of SB victories..
Well, you obviously didn't watch the press conference because he specifically said they did not heat the balls in a room.Belichick say he followed the 'letter of the law'...and I believe him. He didn't violate the 'letter of the law' if he heated the balls to 12.5 in a hot room knowing they'd rapidly lose pressure once they hit the cold.
Nah, it was over for the Steelers a long while ago. They never had the defense this year to compete in the playoffs and weren't a serious contender. Having two Super Bowls since the Pats won their last Spygate tainted one has been pretty nice though.newsflash -- it'll be over a week from sundayNewsflash - its not over and the idea that they rubbed down the balls with enough force without using a dryer or tumbling machine to raise the PSI by a full pound while the ball was at room temperature sounds a bit far fetched. The NFL will surely have a response.
then it's on to 2015!!!!!!!
I mean for us -- it was over for you a long time ago
He encouraged anyone to do exactly the same test.If they were so confident in their little science experiment to figure out what happened, why didn't they document it by video recording it and releasing the video to the media today? That would have put an end to it. Instead they came up with a lame cover story to try to cover their tracks, hoping the media would buy it. Instead, only the gullible and blinded Pats fans are going, "See, told you so"Suddenly Belicheat is a physics professor schooled in atmospheric pressure?? Theyre going to get killed on media day this os NOT going away.question for the Professor...how come all Colts balls were at the absolute correct weight throughout the entite game???
Dopes gonna be dopes..and Belicheat is the master..
Sinple answer to him and Tommy Asterisk: take a polygraph .if youre as innocent as you claim put it all to rest right now, nice and quick..take a polygraph..and i hope a reporter asks both of these clowns this very question..
Stay clasdy Pats fans you're backing the biggest bunch of cheaters in pro sports history.theyve been doing for a decade since they cheated the Rams Eagles Panthers out of SB victories..
Dude ...he has a SB to prepare for ...he even said he wasIf they were so confident in their little science experiment to figure out what happened, why didn't they document it by video recording it and releasing the video to the media today? That would have put an end to it. Instead they came up with a lame cover story to try to cover their tracks, hoping the media would buy it. Instead, only the gullible and blinded Pats fans are going, "See, told you so"Suddenly Belicheat is a physics professor schooled in atmospheric pressure?? Theyre going to get killed on media day this os NOT going away.question for the Professor...how come all Colts balls were at the absolute correct weight throughout the entite game???
Dopes gonna be dopes..and Belicheat is the master..
Sinple answer to him and Tommy Asterisk: take a polygraph .if youre as innocent as you claim put it all to rest right now, nice and quick..take a polygraph..and i hope a reporter asks both of these clowns this very question..
Stay clasdy Pats fans you're backing the biggest bunch of cheaters in pro sports history.theyve been doing for a decade since they cheated the Rams Eagles Panthers out of SB victories..
Last night when I realized that MIT professors and anyone with a YouTube account were proving that psi changes due to weather, I knew the patriots were one press conference away from ending the whole controversy, which is what they did today.Keep grasping at straws.Belichick say he followed the 'letter of the law'...and I believe him. He didn't violate the 'letter of the law' if he heated the balls to 12.5 in a hot room knowing they'd rapidly lose pressure once they hit the cold.
That's all everyone has.
I agree with Al Michaels. With everything going on in the world, people are fixated on how much air was in a bunch of footballs. Really?
LOL. Now they are being called out for not videotaping their investigation? When the NFL, who is making the accusation and has the burden of proof here, has released NOTHING?The only one blind here Pawn is you. Always have been when it comes to the Pats.If they were so confident in their little science experiment to figure out what happened, why didn't they document it by video recording it and releasing the video to the media today? That would have put an end to it. Instead they came up with a lame cover story to try to cover their tracks, hoping the media would buy it. Instead, only the gullible and blinded Pats fans are going, "See, told you so"Suddenly Belicheat is a physics professor schooled in atmospheric pressure?? Theyre going to get killed on media day this os NOT going away.question for the Professor...how come all Colts balls were at the absolute correct weight throughout the entite game???
Dopes gonna be dopes..and Belicheat is the master..
Sinple answer to him and Tommy Asterisk: take a polygraph .if youre as innocent as you claim put it all to rest right now, nice and quick..take a polygraph..and i hope a reporter asks both of these clowns this very question..
Stay clasdy Pats fans you're backing the biggest bunch of cheaters in pro sports history.theyve been doing for a decade since they cheated the Rams Eagles Panthers out of SB victories..
right...i think it time to shift the attention to the people who made this an issue to begin with...and find out what there agenda wasLast night when I realized that MIT professors and anyone with a YouTube account were proving that psi changes due to weather, I knew the patriots were one press conference away from ending the whole controversy, which is what they did today.Keep grasping at straws.Belichick say he followed the 'letter of the law'...and I believe him. He didn't violate the 'letter of the law' if he heated the balls to 12.5 in a hot room knowing they'd rapidly lose pressure once they hit the cold.
That's all everyone has.
All they had to prove is that psi levels don't remain constant and can fluctuate based on weather. That's it. That's what they did and so there is nothing left, unless of course you get a confession from the mythical rogue ball boy.