Patriots Cut Brian Hoyer (1 Viewer)

[BallparkFrank]

The bottomline is Hoyer didn't play well this pre-season for a guy who has been in their system for awhile and was making decent money...not sure if they want him back at a reduced salary since they could use a number three and have no one else around right now...he will get picked up but I think he's being over-valued in a big way if you think he's a definitive starter waiting to happen...I don't see that...his value was knowing the Patriot system and becoming a mini-Brady (not in talent but he was QBing in a similar fashion...or at least attempting to)...he is not a big-time talent waiting in the wings...in Parcells terms he's a JAG (just another guy) who's upside is being a quality backup who will be respected by his teammates and hopefully be able to hold the fort down while a starter is out for a few games...all that being said I am a pretty surprised he got cut and the Pats currently only have two QBs...

The Pats carried three QBs last year for the first time in a number of years. I would guess they will try to find a bargain basement, scrap heap guy that gets cut from somewhere to add to the practice squad as an emergency / developmental QB.

I know but with a 35 year old starter and a QB with no real game experience I really thought they would go with three this year and than have Mallet move up to the #2 next year...I guess they have Edelman in a pinch but that's obviously not something you want to see...will be interesting to see if they bring in a real backup or a practice squad body....

If he doesn't get picked up somewhere else, the Pats will bring him back for less money.

I don't believe it was a money issue . . . I believe it is a space issue. NE had 70 rosterable players and only 53 spots to keep them.The Pats have been looking to unload Hoyer for a long time and were ready to roll with just Mallett even last year. Maybe you are right, but at this stage I think they just don't want to waste a roster spot on a back up to a back up.

Especially if keeping the backup to the backup would stunt the growth of the backup that they hope will one day rise from backup to starter.

 

[Boston]

The bottomline is Hoyer didn't play well this pre-season for a guy who has been in their system for awhile and was making decent money...not sure if they want him back at a reduced salary since they could use a number three and have no one else around right now...he will get picked up but I think he's being over-valued in a big way if you think he's a definitive starter waiting to happen...I don't see that...his value was knowing the Patriot system and becoming a mini-Brady (not in talent but he was QBing in a similar fashion...or at least attempting to)...he is not a big-time talent waiting in the wings...in Parcells terms he's a JAG (just another guy) who's upside is being a quality backup who will be respected by his teammates and hopefully be able to hold the fort down while a starter is out for a few games...all that being said I am a pretty surprised he got cut and the Pats currently only have two QBs...

The Pats carried three QBs last year for the first time in a number of years. I would guess they will try to find a bargain basement, scrap heap guy that gets cut from somewhere to add to the practice squad as an emergency / developmental QB.

I know but with a 35 year old starter and a QB with no real game experience I really thought they would go with three this year and than have Mallet move up to the #2 next year...I guess they have Edelman in a pinch but that's obviously not something you want to see...will be interesting to see if they bring in a real backup or a practice squad body....

There is no guarantee anyone will pick up Hoyer, but if the Pats needed to, they could swing a trade for Hoyer or Cassell if they really needed. I am not sure if the current staff in KC love Cassel as it is . . .I was more surprised they cut Koppen, given the struggles and health issues they had so far on the OL.

From what I hear if you took the Koppen name off his jersey he would not have been considered at all...I guess he just hasn't looked good...it's too bad since he was a quality player for them for awhile...

 

[tombonneau]

Is Edelman worth a stash in dynasty leagues?

I would for sure if I were in dynasty. He looked good his rookie year filling in the slot for Welker, but really has struggled at other WR positions. Could have just been beginner's luck, but as any Pats fan will tell you the rookie starting for injured Wes in the Ravens playoff game was the lone highlight of that nightmare of a game.I think if Wes is gone Edelman will be given a real shot to fill that role in 2013.

 

[RushHour]

The bottomline is Hoyer didn't play well this pre-season for a guy who has been in their system for awhile and was making decent money...not sure if they want him back at a reduced salary since they could use a number three and have no one else around right now...he will get picked up but I think he's being over-valued in a big way if you think he's a definitive starter waiting to happen...I don't see that...his value was knowing the Patriot system and becoming a mini-Brady (not in talent but he was QBing in a similar fashion...or at least attempting to)...he is not a big-time talent waiting in the wings...in Parcells terms he's a JAG (just another guy) who's upside is being a quality backup who will be respected by his teammates and hopefully be able to hold the fort down while a starter is out for a few games...all that being said I am a pretty surprised he got cut and the Pats currently only have two QBs...

 

[PatsWillWin]

I am thinking the Patriots are going to bring back one of Gaffney or Branch, and cutting them was to avoid having their salary become guaranteed. Their WR depth charts is Lloyd/Welker/EDELMAN/...? I know Hernandez is basically a WR, but that still seems pretty light.

 

[ponchsox]

I am thinking the Patriots are going to bring back one of Gaffney or Branch, and cutting them was to avoid having their salary become guaranteed. Their WR depth charts is Lloyd/Welker/EDELMAN/...? I know Hernandez is basically a WR, but that still seems pretty light.

They also have Slater who is primarily a special teamer and Ebert who is similar to Edelman.

 

[PatsWillWin]

I am thinking the Patriots are going to bring back one of Gaffney or Branch, and cutting them was to avoid having their salary become guaranteed. Their WR depth charts is Lloyd/Welker/EDELMAN/...? I know Hernandez is basically a WR, but that still seems pretty light.

They also have Slater who is primarily a special teamer and Ebert who is similar to Edelman.

Ebert has been cut as well.

 

[12punch]

The bottomline is Hoyer didn't play well this pre-season for a guy who has been in their system for awhile and was making decent money...not sure if they want him back at a reduced salary since they could use a number three and have no one else around right now...he will get picked up but I think he's being over-valued in a big way if you think he's a definitive starter waiting to happen...I don't see that...his value was knowing the Patriot system and becoming a mini-Brady (not in talent but he was QBing in a similar fashion...or at least attempting to)...he is not a big-time talent waiting in the wings...in Parcells terms he's a JAG (just another guy) who's upside is being a quality backup who will be respected by his teammates and hopefully be able to hold the fort down while a starter is out for a few games...all that being said I am a pretty surprised he got cut and the Pats currently only have two QBs...

The Pats carried three QBs last year for the first time in a number of years. I would guess they will try to find a bargain basement, scrap heap guy that gets cut from somewhere to add to the practice squad as an emergency / developmental QB.

I know but with a 35 year old starter and a QB with no real game experience I really thought they would go with three this year and than have Mallet move up to the #2 next year...I guess they have Edelman in a pinch but that's obviously not something you want to see...will be interesting to see if they bring in a real backup or a practice squad body....

There is no guarantee anyone will pick up Hoyer, but if the Pats needed to, they could swing a trade for Hoyer or Cassell if they really needed. I am not sure if the current staff in KC love Cassel as it is . . .I was more surprised they cut Koppen, given the struggles and health issues they had so far on the OL.

wut?

 

[Donnybrook]

Did Visanthe Shiancoe make the team? Not listed amongst cuts.

 

[12punch]

Did Visanthe Shiancoe make the team? Not listed amongst cuts.

I believe he didfor now, anyway......

 

[Frank Costanza's Lawyer]

@caplannfl

Former #Patriots QB Brian Hoyer passed through waivers unclaimed. He's free to sign with another team.

 

[PatsFanCT]

Well I guess this doesn't bode well for my case.

The New England Patriots worked out free-agent QB Mike Kafka (Eagles) Tuesday, Sept. 4.

I guess I was wrong, but I thought Hoyer looked better than Cassel ever did, and he's got a starting gig.

 

[PatsFanCT]

He's Baaaaaaack!

 

[Bri]

He's Baaaaaaack!

I'm willing to give Josh Gordon the benefit of the doubt here and see what he does next week

 

[Shutout]

I only saw about 5 minutes of this game and I see the final stat line. Not sure what people's thoughts on him are but I wanted to say that the pass I saw him toss the TD to Cameron in the corner of the endzone was pretty impressive. That was a very good touch pass under pressure.