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Patriots drop Adalius Thomas (1 Viewer)
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Dr. Octopus
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Rex Ryan probably has him on the phone already.
pantherclub
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Ravens/Jets will sign him soon
whitewizard
Footballguy
the lions have a hole where ernie used to be. adding adalius could actually make us worth something.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
But he'd still have to drive in snow.
Chadstroma
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Was he just a bad system fit in NE? Was he just over rated coming from the Ravens where the talent around him allowed him to get the stats? I just have never figured out why he failed so badly in NE.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
his stock's been down since last year, if not even before that for all we know.this cut's been speculated on for quite some time, most just expected it to be a little later since there's no cap urgency this year.
I guess belichick wanted the roster spot for another udfa.
Ray Lewis rips Adalius Thomas
So it turns out Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis took serious exception to comments in Sports Illustrated by former teammate Adalius Thomas suggesting the Patriots are better team players less concerned about individual glory than the players and coaches in Baltimore.
Lewis has a radio show there and he used it yesterday to tear into Thomas.
“You don’t become a Super Bowl champion in this business without having character and dignity in what you do for your teammates,” Lewis said. “You don’t become a Super Bowl champion in this business without having character and dignity in what you do for your teammates. We won a Super Bowl without Adalius Thomas. The New England Patriots won three Super Bowls without Adalius Thomas. You’re talking about a guy – great talent, great talent, don’t ever get me wrong – but systematically we had to fit him into our scheme. Now is that discrediting A.D.? No. A.D., we appreciate you. But when you go and you do your own thing, do your own thing. You got your money, you’re with a new team, be with your new team. But when take a shot at men who you claimed you loved to go to war with, I call those (types of guys) cowards. Because if you’ve got something to say privately, you don’t have to go to a newspaper. If you have something to say to a man, speak it.” We won a Super Bowl without Adalius Thomas. The New England Patriots won three Super Bowls without Adalius Thomas. You’re talking about a guy – great talent, great talent, don’t ever get me wrong – but systematically we had to fit him into our scheme. Now is that discrediting A.D.? No. A.D., we appreciate you. But when you go and you do your own thing, do your own thing. You got your money, you’re with a new team, be with your new team. But when take a shot at men who you claimed you loved to go to war with, I call those (types of guys) cowards. Because if you’ve got something to say privately, you don’t have to go to a newspaper. If you have something to say to a man, speak it.”
http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/r...adalius-thomas/
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fruity pebbles
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he got his big payday and basically mailed it in.
phthalatemagic
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Before people get all slathered up about Thomas becoming a FA, ask yourself when was the last time the Patriots cut a guy and he had a good season the next year?
switz
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What's your definition of good? Pats FA magic is not what it once was... Adalius Thomas and Stallworth are pretty good examples of that.
phthalatemagic
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Your second statement - aint it the truth!Your first statement - I guess I wasn't going to try to get all semantical here.
I wasn't going to try to fight about what is good and what isn't. I guess even just a reliable consistent starter would do. I simply can't remember any. Maybe Thomas just hated BB because he wanted him to be versatile and play within the defense. I read somewhere that Thomas loved to freelance. I imagine BB didn't like that. Maybe he can play well elsewhere? It just doesn't seem that BB lets go of players that have much use to the rest of the league, for whatever reason.
Cassius
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switz
Footballguy
Yeah, for sure... we'll see what Thomas has left in the tank, he's three years older now. LB is a young players' position.I guess Branch is the last FA I can think of who left NE and had moderate success. He wasn't great though... Pats seem to know when to let players go.Your second statement - aint it the truth!Your first statement - I guess I wasn't going to try to get all semantical here.
Adebisi
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Asante Samuel comes to mind.
PlasmaDogPlasma
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They didn't really cut Samuel.
PatsFanCT
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Ty Law
pantherclub
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Tau837
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He did? His best season was 53/725/4 after leaving the Pats. For that matter, he was never particularly good with the Pats... I thought he was significantly overrated.
switz
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yeah, that's "moderate success" and "not great" ... offseason in the shark pool
Boston
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No surprise here...this was expected as soon as he had his "flare-up" this season. Underachieving and being a distraction while making big bucks is never a good combination.
Thomas was a guy every Patriot fan salivated over when they signed him to the biggest free agent deal of the BB era. The expectations for him were huge and double-digit sack seasons were a given. Unfortunately, he was never the player they thought they signed and he got worse each season and last year he was little more than an afterthought. To make matters worse he became a negative influence in the locker-room. I heard Christian Fauria on the radio and he was pretty frank saying Thomas was not a good guy. He went on to say that this wasn't a big issue when veterans like Rodney, Bruschi, Vrabel and Seymour were running things and he was put in his place but once they were gone and a leadership vacuum ensued Thomas became trouble and not a guy you wanted aroung young and impressionable players (I don't think it's a coincidence the Pats draft was heavy on leadership this year). At the end of the day Thomas was a bust and probably the worst personel move of the BB era.
Overall Thomas could help a veteran team in the depth department...but anyone who gives him good money is making a big mistake. He's on the downside of his career and he'll probably end up a journeyman the next three years or so.
Thomas was a guy every Patriot fan salivated over when they signed him to the biggest free agent deal of the BB era. The expectations for him were huge and double-digit sack seasons were a given. Unfortunately, he was never the player they thought they signed and he got worse each season and last year he was little more than an afterthought. To make matters worse he became a negative influence in the locker-room. I heard Christian Fauria on the radio and he was pretty frank saying Thomas was not a good guy. He went on to say that this wasn't a big issue when veterans like Rodney, Bruschi, Vrabel and Seymour were running things and he was put in his place but once they were gone and a leadership vacuum ensued Thomas became trouble and not a guy you wanted aroung young and impressionable players (I don't think it's a coincidence the Pats draft was heavy on leadership this year). At the end of the day Thomas was a bust and probably the worst personel move of the BB era.
Overall Thomas could help a veteran team in the depth department...but anyone who gives him good money is making a big mistake. He's on the downside of his career and he'll probably end up a journeyman the next three years or so.
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Cassius
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Off-season indeed.yeah, that's "moderate success" and "not great" ... offseason in the shark pool
It's stupid to bring up Branch anyways. He wasn't "let go" like Thomas, he was traded for a 1st round pick to Seattle, where he signed a gross $40 million deal that he hasn't come close to living up to. To bring this up as some kind of mistake by the Patriots is shortbus, they made out like bandits.
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Tau837
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I wouldn't call that any form of success. Is it even average performance? If so, that's all it is.switz.yeah, that's "moderate success" and "not great" ... offseason in the shark pool
switz
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No one brought it up as a mistake by the Pats... sheesh kids, take some reading comprehension classes. No one said he lived up to his contract, that wasn't even part of the discussion... as for the point about him not being an FA, good catch, I had thought he was an RFA who SEA signed and so NE got a pick in return....Off-season indeed.yeah, that's "moderate success" and "not great" ... offseason in the shark pool
It's stupid to bring up Branch anyways. He wasn't "let go" like Thomas, he was traded for a 1st round pick to Seattle, where he signed a gross $40 million deal that he hasn't come close to living up to. To bring this up as some kind of mistake by the Patriots is shortbus, they made out like bandits.
switz
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Stop being asinine... Branch was a starter in SEA whether you want to argue 725 yards is junk (it's #2 WR area) or not. In my books, being considered good enough to be a starter is moderate success.I wouldn't call that any form of success. Is it even average performance? If so, that's all it is.switz.yeah, that's "moderate success" and "not great" ... offseason in the shark pool
Kool-Aid Larry
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could we get the subject line of this thread changed?
