If Maroney had a serious injury I doubt we would have seen this trade.
Nevermind.Who the heck is Patrick Cobbs??
I believe he is the kid from North Texas who led the NCAA in rushing a few years back.Who the heck is Patrick Cobbs??
You obviously didn't see Duce this year. He was no threat to start.Not sure what this means for Duce. He was supposed to count for 2.45M this year, I think, but he renegotiated his contract earlier in the year and I'm not sure of the details.
Cobbs is much cheaper - and probably less of a threat to start as compared to Duce. Combined with his recent extension, if Duce is cut or traded it would be another big vote of confidence in Parker's ability to be the guy in Steel City....
Yeah, it's not like they don't have spot fillers for Dillon if the need arises. Was Cobbs going to be THAT valuable to them -- not likely -- IMO.diesel7982 said:jafo said:If Maroney had a serious injury I doubt we would have seen this trade., correct.Although, given both Evans and Pass's ability to play HB in a pinch, we might be overstating things here.
Err, yes, I did, and ... you're rightCrossEyed said:You obviously didn't see Duce this year. He was no threat to start.corpcow said:Not sure what this means for Duce. He was supposed to count for 2.45M this year, I think, but he renegotiated his contract earlier in the year and I'm not sure of the details.
Cobbs is much cheaper - and probably less of a threat to start as compared to Duce. Combined with his recent extension, if Duce is cut or traded it would be another big vote of confidence in Parker's ability to be the guy in Steel City....
But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
http://cbs4boston.com/sports/local_story_244162629.htmlBeisel, Warfield Among Ten Players Cut By Patriots
Pats Trade Cobbs To Steelers
(CBS4) FOXBORO The Patriots cut ten players on Friday, including linebackers Monty Beisel, Chad Brown and cornerback Eric Warfield.
The Pats also traded rookie running back Patrick Cobbs to the Steelers for an undisclosed draft choice.
Also released were WR Eddie Berlin, QB Corey Bramlet, CB Vernell Brown, DL Eddie Freeman, TE Chris Luzar, LB Jeremy Mincy and WR John Stone.
The decision to cut Bramlet means the Patriots will go into the season with two quarterbacks, Tom Brady and Matt Cassel, on the roster.
The Patriots start the season Sunday, Sept 10th in Foxboro against the Buffalo Bills.
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FWP was an UDFA.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
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Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
Not shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.
agreed. But, I think all view FWP producing so early in his career as an anomoly. I hope it does work out for Cobbs. But, I do not see him pushing Haynes for time this early into the season.Plus, the think omitted is that Parker was able to go through camp with the Steelers and impress along the way for his opportunity.FWP was an UDFA.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
Not shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.![]()
Oh, for this year I certainly agree with you. So where do you think Duce ends up? Back in Philly?agreed. But, I think all view FWP producing so early in his career as an anomoly. I hope it does work out for Cobbs. But, I do not see him pushing Haynes for time this early into the season.Plus, the think omitted is that Parker was able to go through camp with the Steelers and impress along the way for his opportunity.FWP was an UDFA.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
Not shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.![]()
And North Texas State, as it was then known, is the alma mater of one (Mean) Joe Greene. Some of you might have heard of him, although younger FBGs probably think all he ever did was drink a Coke in the dressing room tunnel.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
Not shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.
Hard to say. I personally believe that Humes will make it and Staley will be cut, but that's just a gut feeling at this point.Is Humes going to make the team?
Aren't Mike Bell and Wali Lundy also UDFA's.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.
FWP down ???Aren't Mike Bell and Wali Lundy also UDFA's.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.![]()
I think Lundy was drafted in the 5th or 6th round.Aren't Mike Bell and Wali Lundy also UDFA's.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.![]()
Lundy was drafted in the 6th round . . .Aren't Mike Bell and Wali Lundy also UDFA's.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.![]()
you might read the thread, especially post 23 ....FWP down ???Aren't Mike Bell and Wali Lundy also UDFA's.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.![]()
It was injuries to Bettis and Staley that gave him the opportunity - the key is that he made the most of it and never let go of the starting role once they returned.Plus, the think omitted is that Parker was able to go through camp with the Steelers and impress along the way for his opportunity.
Humes runs too upright. He's a project at best, Practice Squad at worst. Veron Hayes has disappointed this preseason. He's locked up a spot of course, but couldn't restle the goal-line back chores away from FWP. That's saying something. Expect to see him on 3rd down screens. Whatever. You all know already that Staley is old and runs like it. He'll make the team because of his experience, but this move shows the Steelers are very thin at the RB position and are concerned about it. Who's the handcuff to FWP? Hell if I know.reading comp down?you might read the thread, especially post 23 ....FWP down ???Aren't Mike Bell and Wali Lundy also UDFA's.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.![]()
Agreed. He played well in the preseason although it was against second teamers. The one thing I didn't like about him was he seemed to go down upon contact. He didn't get much extra yardage. I'm sure the Pats only get a pick if he makes the Steelers and if that's the case it makes sense on both sides.Looks like we need to root for Gorin, Tucker and Cobbs as the better they do the better the pick the Pats will get. Between these three and some compensatory picks the Pats look to be pretty busy in those last few rounds next year.Good for Cobbs, and good for the Pats. Got a pick for a player they would have to cut. He's an impressive young back. Good hands, great in the open field, hits the hold hard. Pats just had too much depth in the backfield to keep him. I think they would have liked to have put him to the practice squad, but he never would have made it there.
Being reported as a "conditional draft pick".Agreed. He played well in the preseason although it was against second teamers. The one thing I didn't like about him was he seemed to go down upon contact. He didn't get much extra yardage. I'm sure the Pats only get a pick if he makes the Steelers and if that's the case it makes sense on both sides.Good for Cobbs, and good for the Pats. Got a pick for a player they would have to cut.
He's an impressive young back. Good hands, great in the open field, hits the hold hard. Pats just had too much depth in the backfield to keep him. I think they would have liked to have put him to the practice squad, but he never would have made it there.
Looks like we need to root for Gorin, Tucker and Cobbs as the better they do the better the pick the Pats will get. Between these three and some compensatory picks the Pats look to be pretty busy in those last few rounds next year.
FWP and KreiderSteelers had the only starting backfield with undrafted free agents as starters.FWP was an UDFA.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
Not shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.![]()
I wouldn't say Colbert can't hit late although I don't recall when Colbert took over. So at a guess: Clark Haggans, Larry Foote, FWP, Chris Hope, Hines, Colclough, Ike Taylor but missed out on guys like Alonzo Jackson and Fred Gibson...Humes runs too upright. He's a project at best, Practice Squad at worst. Veron Hayes has disappointed this preseason. He's locked up a spot of course, but couldn't restle the goal-line back chores away from FWP. That's saying something. Expect to see him on 3rd down screens. Whatever. You all know already that Staley is old and runs like it. He'll make the team because of his experience, but this move shows the Steelers are very thin at the RB position and are concerned about it. Who's the handcuff to FWP? Hell if I know.reading comp down?you might read the thread, especially post 23 ....FWP down ???Aren't Mike Bell and Wali Lundy also UDFA's.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.![]()
I bet the Steelers gave up no more than a 7th for Cobb. This is symptomatic of Kevin Colbert drafts. They guy is a genius in the first 2 rounds, but then he just looses control. 3-7 is always a crap shoot with him. Donohoe was the opposite. They guy couldn't hit on a top pick to save his life (Chad Scott, Mark Bruener, Troy Edwards, etc.), but constantly got gems in the lower rounds (Earl Holmes, Chris Fu, Kris Brown, Carlos Emmons, etc.)
Also, knock off the "sarcasm or whatever is down" posts. Waste of space. TIA.
-jp
Colclough was a 2nd rounder, but otherwise some good points. I think Ike was a 4th rounder, which was a huge steal!I wouldn't say Colbert can't hit late although I don't recall when Colbert took over. So at a guess: Clark Haggans, Larry Foote, FWP, Chris Hope, Hines, Colclough, Ike Taylor but missed out on guys like Alonzo Jackson and Fred Gibson...Humes runs too upright. He's a project at best, Practice Squad at worst. Veron Hayes has disappointed this preseason. He's locked up a spot of course, but couldn't restle the goal-line back chores away from FWP. That's saying something. Expect to see him on 3rd down screens. Whatever. You all know already that Staley is old and runs like it. He'll make the team because of his experience, but this move shows the Steelers are very thin at the RB position and are concerned about it. Who's the handcuff to FWP? Hell if I know.reading comp down?you might read the thread, especially post 23 ....FWP down ???Aren't Mike Bell and Wali Lundy also UDFA's.But the Draft History going back to 1982 only lists these players as grads from North Texas:North Texas
Year Rd Sel# Player Pos. Team
1982 4 100 Louis Haynes LB Kansas City
1982 5 114 Tony Elliott NT New Orleans
1983 11 297 Mark Witte TE Tampa Bay
1989 3 79 Kim Phillips CB New Orleans
1991 6 145 Erric Pegram RB Atlanta
1991 6 165 Scott Bowles T San Francisco
1995 6 205 Anthony Bridges DB Arizona
2004 6 182 Cody Spencer OLB Oakland
He is an undrafted free agent from North Texas (the Mean Green). Here are his stats from last year:
RUSHING GP Att Gain Loss Net Avg TD Long Avg/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
Cobbs, Patrick 11 231 1237 83 1154 5.0 6 59 104.9
shabby, but also, let's remember that he is an UDFA, so Cobbs offers little other than depth.![]()
I bet the Steelers gave up no more than a 7th for Cobb. This is symptomatic of Kevin Colbert drafts. They guy is a genius in the first 2 rounds, but then he just looses control. 3-7 is always a crap shoot with him. Donohoe was the opposite. They guy couldn't hit on a top pick to save his life (Chad Scott, Mark Bruener, Troy Edwards, etc.), but constantly got gems in the lower rounds (Earl Holmes, Chris Fu, Kris Brown, Carlos Emmons, etc.)
Also, knock off the "sarcasm or whatever is down" posts. Waste of space. TIA.
-jp
I'm not sure if it's safe to respond to you... but yes I think this is an attempt to find a power back. Even though Cobbs isn't that big (compared to the Bus anywho) he does seem to excel through power running. I wouldn't mind taking a flier on him in Zealots seeing as he will most likely be on the roster seeing they just traded for him.It will be interesting to see the Steeler offense sans Bettis. Is this an attempt to fill that role?
I don't think Colbert can get credit for FWP. It was a Rooney who remembered him from his high school days that was the reason the Steelers invited him to camp.I wouldn't say Colbert can't hit late although I don't recall when Colbert took over. So at a guess: Clark Haggans, Larry Foote, FWP, Chris Hope, Hines, Colclough, Ike Taylor but missed out on guys like Alonzo Jackson and Fred Gibson...
Yeah, just ask Jerome.It will be interesting to see the Steeler offense sans Bettis. Is this an attempt to fill that role?
I don't think it matters all that much. That front office is one of the most cohesive front offices in the NFL. I just didn't think it was fair to say that Colbert hasn't hit late when he has found a good mix of role players and stars late.I don't think Colbert can get credit for FWP. It was a Rooney who remembered him from his high school days that was the reason the Steelers invited him to camp.I wouldn't say Colbert can't hit late although I don't recall when Colbert took over. So at a guess: Clark Haggans, Larry Foote, FWP, Chris Hope, Hines, Colclough, Ike Taylor but missed out on guys like Alonzo Jackson and Fred Gibson...
Also, knock off the "sarcasm or whatever is down" posts. Waste of space. TIA.-jp