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The NFL has arranged with broadcast television partners CBS and NBC for an unprecedented three-way national simulcast of the NFL Network telecast of Saturday night’s New England Patriots at New York Giants game when the Patriots will try to become the first NFL team to go 16-0 in a regular season, NFL Commissioner ROGER GOODELL announced today.
“We have taken this extraordinary step because it is in the best interest of our fans,” Commissioner Goodell said. “What we have seen for the past year is a very strong consumer demand for NFL Network. We appreciate CBS and NBC delivering the NFL Network telecast on Saturday night to the broad audience that deserves to see this potentially historic game. Our commitment to the NFL Network is stronger than ever.”
CBS and NBC will carry the NFL Network feed of the game with BRYANT GUMBEL and CRIS COLLINSWORTH in the broadcast booth. The game also will be televised by WCVB-ABC (Channel 5) in Boston, WMUR-ABC in Manchester, New Hampshire (Channel 9) and WWOR (Channel 9) in New York. The telecast begins at 8 p.m. ET with kickoff set at 8:15 p.m. ET.
This will be the first three-network simulcast in NFL history and the first simulcast of any kind of an NFL game since Super Bowl I in 1967 when CBS and NBC both televised the first meeting of the champions of the newly merged National Football League and American Football League. CBS was the network partner of the NFL at that time and NBC televised the AFL. In that first Super Bowl – in which the NFL Green Bay Packers beat the AFL Kansas City Chiefs 35-10 in the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on January 15, 1967 – Ray Scott, Jack Whitaker and Frank Gifford called the game for CBS while Curt Gowdy and Paul Christman broadcast the game on NBC.
Against the 10-5 playoff-bound Giants, the 15-0 Patriots on Saturday night will seek to become the first NFL team to complete an unbeaten regular season since the Miami Dolphins went 14-0 in 1972. The Dolphins proceeded to win three more games, including Super Bowl VII, to finish 17-0 for the only perfect season in NFL history. The NFL regular season was expanded to 16 games in 1978.
The Patriots also are aiming for their record 19th consecutive regular-season victory dating back to the 2006 season. With six points, they also will become the highest scoring team in one NFL season, breaking the Minnesota Vikings’ total of 556 in 1998. Individually, quarterback TOM BRADY (48) is in position to break PEYTON MANNING’s NFL record for most touchdown passes in a season (49 in 2004) and wide receiver RANDY MOSS (21) will set a new league mark if he catches two touchdown passes to surpass JERRY RICE’s 22 in 1987.
NFL Network is currently available on 240 cable systems, including Cox, plus satellite television providers DirecTV and Dish Network, and the telephone company TV services of AT&T U-VERSE and Verizon FiOS. But a few of the largest cable companies have refused to carry NFL Network on their most broadly distributed and affordable packages.
“NFL Network is a programming service of great interest to fans and should be broadly distributed by the cable industry,” said NFL Network President and CEO STEVE BORNSTEIN. “The only channel devoted 24/7 to America’s favorite sport is not programming that should be relegated to a poorly promoted, pay-extra sports tier that takes advantage of our fans’ passion for the NFL. A few of the biggest cable operators have refused to negotiate. We call on them to do what’s right for their consumers and negotiate agreements for NFL Network that make sense for everybody.”
NFL Network also will televise two college football bowl games over the next week. The Texas Bowl in Houston matches the University of Houston against TCU at 8 p.m. ET on Friday (December 28) and the Insight Bowl in Tempe, Arizona will send Indiana University against Oklahoma State on Monday (December 31) at 6 p.m. ET.
“We have taken this extraordinary step because it is in the best interest of our fans,” Commissioner Goodell said. “What we have seen for the past year is a very strong consumer demand for NFL Network. We appreciate CBS and NBC delivering the NFL Network telecast on Saturday night to the broad audience that deserves to see this potentially historic game. Our commitment to the NFL Network is stronger than ever.”
CBS and NBC will carry the NFL Network feed of the game with BRYANT GUMBEL and CRIS COLLINSWORTH in the broadcast booth. The game also will be televised by WCVB-ABC (Channel 5) in Boston, WMUR-ABC in Manchester, New Hampshire (Channel 9) and WWOR (Channel 9) in New York. The telecast begins at 8 p.m. ET with kickoff set at 8:15 p.m. ET.
This will be the first three-network simulcast in NFL history and the first simulcast of any kind of an NFL game since Super Bowl I in 1967 when CBS and NBC both televised the first meeting of the champions of the newly merged National Football League and American Football League. CBS was the network partner of the NFL at that time and NBC televised the AFL. In that first Super Bowl – in which the NFL Green Bay Packers beat the AFL Kansas City Chiefs 35-10 in the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum on January 15, 1967 – Ray Scott, Jack Whitaker and Frank Gifford called the game for CBS while Curt Gowdy and Paul Christman broadcast the game on NBC.
Against the 10-5 playoff-bound Giants, the 15-0 Patriots on Saturday night will seek to become the first NFL team to complete an unbeaten regular season since the Miami Dolphins went 14-0 in 1972. The Dolphins proceeded to win three more games, including Super Bowl VII, to finish 17-0 for the only perfect season in NFL history. The NFL regular season was expanded to 16 games in 1978.
The Patriots also are aiming for their record 19th consecutive regular-season victory dating back to the 2006 season. With six points, they also will become the highest scoring team in one NFL season, breaking the Minnesota Vikings’ total of 556 in 1998. Individually, quarterback TOM BRADY (48) is in position to break PEYTON MANNING’s NFL record for most touchdown passes in a season (49 in 2004) and wide receiver RANDY MOSS (21) will set a new league mark if he catches two touchdown passes to surpass JERRY RICE’s 22 in 1987.
NFL Network is currently available on 240 cable systems, including Cox, plus satellite television providers DirecTV and Dish Network, and the telephone company TV services of AT&T U-VERSE and Verizon FiOS. But a few of the largest cable companies have refused to carry NFL Network on their most broadly distributed and affordable packages.
“NFL Network is a programming service of great interest to fans and should be broadly distributed by the cable industry,” said NFL Network President and CEO STEVE BORNSTEIN. “The only channel devoted 24/7 to America’s favorite sport is not programming that should be relegated to a poorly promoted, pay-extra sports tier that takes advantage of our fans’ passion for the NFL. A few of the biggest cable operators have refused to negotiate. We call on them to do what’s right for their consumers and negotiate agreements for NFL Network that make sense for everybody.”
NFL Network also will televise two college football bowl games over the next week. The Texas Bowl in Houston matches the University of Houston against TCU at 8 p.m. ET on Friday (December 28) and the Insight Bowl in Tempe, Arizona will send Indiana University against Oklahoma State on Monday (December 31) at 6 p.m. ET.
Angry Beavers
Footballguy
That is pretty cool - but isn't the NFL Ticket just using this as a Great advertising ploy?
Footballg
Footballguy
What will you be having for dinner?
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Absolutely. They'll be flashing their iwantnflnetwork.com ad all over the place as they always do. But what it really is is an admission of defeat in their arbitration PR ploy. They couldn't bully TW to accept a 3rd party ruling by saying "we'll air the game while the arbitrator considers". So that failed and they had to make a choice. Lose millions in advertising dollars and show that the fan was the last person whose interests they were looking out for, or cave and show the game so that everyone can see it and the commercial spots will garner full prices. I see this as a minor win for TW, however the NFLN is going to get plenty of shots in during the game to try and make the cable companies look like the bad guys in this.
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Phurfur
Footballguy
Since it is Saturday I will have a liquid dinner. My point is this is a meaningless game, I could care less if NE goes 16-0 or 15-1. Everyone is making too big of a deal out of this.
Assani Fisher
Footballguy
its only meaningless for this season. Its very important for ranking the Pats all time. Do you only care about this season? Personally I care MORE about all time than any one season as its more important.
Footballg
Footballguy
#### --- I'd watch the Pats every night if they were on.
Arnold. S
Footballguy
the possibility of a team going 16-0 in the regular season for the first time in NFL history meaningless?
Newslang
Footballguy
MOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!! Havent seen you in forever.
Phurfur
Footballguy
So the 16th win is more important than 1-15. Do you hear anyone talking about seeing Miami's last regular season game in 1972? This game is not important if the Pats lose in the playoffs and if they don't the SB will be the game that determines the undefeated season. The 1934 Chicago Bears went 13-0 but lost to the NYG in the championship game. So an undefeated regular season is not the measure. Too many people are drinking the NFL kool-aid. This game is meaningless.
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Darth Cheney
Footballguy
So what they are saying is that the NFL can budge on this blackout thing if they want to? While it's nice for us Pats fans, the supporting fans who want to see history being made and the haters who need Patriot victories to warm them inside...it really makes the NFL look hypocritical.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
To you perhaps, but with the number of NFL records that could fall during that game, there seems to be enough interest for unprecedented simulcasts. You don't want to watch it, fine, don't. But to say it's meaningless (other than to you) is simply not true.
nerangers
Footballguy
Prior to the NFL Network hosting the NFL games themselves, the game would have been on TV for all to see anyway...maybe that is more the reason people are making a big deal out of it.If the Pats somehow lose this game, you would wish you had seen it!
omally
Footballguy
The Patriots won't lose this game. They want to break records, and the Giants want to make sure they don't have any more injuries in a meaningless game to them. Coughlin will not play his starters more than a half, and I wouldn't be surprised to see Burress barely play or not at all, and Jacobs barely play or not at all. This will be a gimmee game for the Patriots.
gethugefast1
Footballguy
PATS will be playing GIANTS Bench...no need for Giants to win, will be benching starters...IMO
Phurfur
Footballguy
I will grant you that. I am just so sick of the NFL and all the drama they have caused, that I no longer have any interest in the game.
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omally
Footballguy
So, national TV gets to watch Matt Cassel Tom Brady handing throwing to Heath Evans Randy Moss for 3 4 quarters.
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Unfortunately this is
. Personally the GF has already made movie plans and I see no need to change them just for this game.
Phurfur
Footballguy
What is all this history, a passing record and receiving record? Do you even know how many records were broken this season? Was there this much of a big deal made when Manning broke the record? How about all of Favre's records over the last few years? It is all NFL hype and I am not buying it. If the records are set I will see them dozons of times on replay. This is important to NE fans but not to the whole country.
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
Actually no, because this game had nothing to do with their blackout policy. It's a network thing. It was to be shown on NFLN, which as you know is not available to all cable customers across the country. One of the sticky points is that New England covers more area geographically than the TV networks deem to be in the Patriots' home broadcasting area. The blackout issue is when a home game doesn't sell out, the home broadcasting range of the team can't carry it. They are relenting and letting non NFLN networks carry it, in addition to their own broadcast because of the massive public pressure. It's less them being hypocritical than it is them being practical, as this will allow them to charge much more for commercial time than if the braodcast was limited. It also helps their image, though there is a degree of hipocrisy in that other NFLN games weren't similarly simulcast. However, none of it has to do with their blackout policy.As for the rest, back in line with the rest of the neo-Pat trolls.
Footballg
Footballguy
Noted. You are going to the movies and not watching the game.FYI - I will be watching the game, as will a couple friends of mine. I'll start my own thread on Sunday when I figure out which games I'm watching.
ChromeWeasel
Footballguy
Even people who arent big NFL football fans will enjoy watching these things happen LIVE. Its only no big deal if you actively avoid watching everything. It IS a big deal if you're watching the game and you talk about for 30 years afterwards. Hopefully these are records that never fall again in your lifetime, and every real football fan you know reminds you of what an idiot you were to intentionally avoid watching them happen LIVE. That will be especially easy to do since NFL network is now simulcasting the games for everyone to see.But you go ahead and pretend that no one should care and that your little stance against the NFL is significant. The rest of us will be enjoying history unfolding in front of our eyes.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
A passing record, receiving record, team points record, regular season record, no biggies. I guess no one should've cared about Bonds' record game either, surprised that sold out. In fact, why watch any games at all when you can see clips of all of them on Sportscenter? I am very far from a NE fan and I want to see it, but hey that's just me (along with a huge percentage of the football watching population that doens't have your lofty cynicism). It is in fact a game that people across the country want to see, you don't. We get that. You're the minority, not the other way around. Have fun at the bar.
Mystery Achiever
Footballguy
i don't think saturday night ratings are very high normally. esp during holiday season. this could end up being a bump..or they may just be a competitive thing...and, lol at the goodell quote about doing this because the fans deserve it. they're avoiding negative press and getting a lot more buzz around the event and cross-promotion opportunities from a larger audience.
Phurfur
Footballguy
Pleasssseeee, they will fall sooner than you think, ask P. Manning. The NFL Kool-aid is stronger than I thought.Do people you know really talk about records they saw broken on TV? You talk about seeing them live, to me that means you are at the game. This will be big for people at the game very minor to those not at the game.
Saying that, it is great you are so hyped up about it and I hope you have a great time Saturday Night, I just can't get to that place.
ChromeWeasel
Footballguy
People have been talking about this all year, do you really think we arent going to be talking about it once we watch it live?Go ahead and convince yourself that these records will fall quickly. You are only robbing yourself of a good time.
Phurfur
Footballguy
I guess watching the Pats beat up on a resting Giants team is not my idea of a good time.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
You know he has somewhat of a point here.Name me the game (without looking it up) that Manning broke the passing TD record. Who were they playing? Similarly with Tomlinson.And those were recent.The compilation type records don't make the games in which the record breaker happens very memorable (unless it's done in an extremely memorable fashion). Single game records do.I can't tell you who the Dolphins beat in the last regular season game of the 72 season. I do know the Dolphins beat the Bears to end their undefeated season in 85, and the Chargers beat the Colts to end their undefeated season a couple of years ago.The only way this game is worth watching/memorable is if the Pats somehow lose, someone sets a single game record, or maybe if the Giants keep it close right up to the end.Not very likely.I'll be watching the game.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Denver, Dec 10. Once outside Cardinals stadium my buddy updated me on the game. Sadly, the Seahawks had just lost.Yeah, this isn't the gretest matchup for a huge game competition wise. But that's only because the Giants are going to do the smart football thing and rest their starters as much as possible. NE won't. Which is fine as long as they don't expect us to buy their BS when they say they weren't after the records. But alot of stars have lined up for this game to have a lot of NFL history attached to it. None of those other games had so many things (probably) fall at the same time.You know he has somewhat of a point here.Name me the game (without looking it up) that Manning broke the passing TD record. Who were they playing?
Similarly with Tomlinson.
And those were recent.
The compilation type records don't make the games in which the record breaker happens very memorable (unless it's done in an extremely memorable fashion). Single game records do.
I can't tell you who the Dolphins beat in the last regular season game of the 72 season. I do know the Dolphins beat the Bears to end their undefeated season in 85, and the Chargers beat the Colts to end their undefeated season a couple of years ago.
The only way this game is worth watching/memorable is if the Pats somehow lose, someone sets a single game record, or maybe if the Giants keep it close right up to the end.
Not very likely.
I'll be watching the game.
ChromeWeasel
Footballguy
That's because you're ignoring the historic stats. Again, that's your loss. Meanwhile you DO enjoy making a bunch of meaningless posts on a fantasy football forum.
JaxBill
Footballguy
1) I would think NFLN would get higher ad prices for this game if they stayed exclusive. I would think all three outlets will have lower ad prices since there's no exclusivity.2) How is offering arbitration "Bullying"?3) Maybe if people watch CBS/NBC, NFLN will get the message as to how terrible Gumbel is.4) I think Directv, who hosts the Ticket and was an early NFLN adopter is one of the losers. They can't spend all offseason promoting NFLN. (Well they can, but it won't have as much impact.)5) I'm another non-Pats fan who sees this game as a nice bit of history but not compelling TV. I'm much more interested in Cowboys/Redskins.
Please See Mine
Footballguy
Heeeyyy, here's a fun guy.
Darth Cheney
Footballguy
It's the same difference. You don't think a good portion of the SouthWest or the MidWest are Packers and Cowboys fans? It's being hypocritical....and don't hate us Pats fans....we're just having fun this season.
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[scooter]
Footballguy
Fox's contract is for NFC road games, while CBS' contract is for AFC road games. So, this game already falls under CBS's domain. NBC is allowed to broadcast both NFC and AFC games.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
1. If they stayed exclusive then their audience is a lot smaller, therefore less money. I don't know how the ad money will work through a simuilcast, but NFLN can charge a lot more with a national audience than they could if the game weren't even available in 50% of the households to begin with. More people watching=more money. 2. Offering arbitration isn't necessarily bullying, going public with a deal they knew would be rejected in order to make TW look like they were the ones responsible for the impasse is. It was all basically a PR move to try and force TW's hand by saying if you agree to it, we'll show this game while the arbitrater figures it out. 3. If they don't already know that, then they are not an NFL network.4. DirecTV doesn't care about NFLN. They have exclusive rights to the Sunday Ticket. NFLN is an extremely minor part of their packaging, even among football fans, because of the exclusivity contract.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Not really the same difference. I agree that there is hypocrisy in the Dal/Gb vs the NE/NY game, or any other of the NFLN's games that didn't go national. That's the same. But it has nothing whatsoever to do with the blackout issue. That's a whole different topic.And I don't hate Pats fans, I just hate certain types of Pats fans.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
3 simulcast national feeds of a of Bryant Gumhole broadcast.
Stock up on bottled water and canned food, I give the world about 3 more weeks.
Stock up on bottled water and canned food, I give the world about 3 more weeks.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Please See Mine said:
TC
Footballguy
Guys -
Despite our interest in the game, most of America could care less if a Boston team goes 16-0 (or 26-0) this season. Everyone who is a pro football fan has some interest. However, there is not enough interest to justify NBC -and- Fox -and- NFLN each carrying it. It's a Saturday evening in December, with a writer's strike contributing to no new prime time shows. If it were not Saturday evening, this duplicated event would not be happening.
Despite our interest in the game, most of America could care less if a Boston team goes 16-0 (or 26-0) this season. Everyone who is a pro football fan has some interest. However, there is not enough interest to justify NBC -and- Fox -and- NFLN each carrying it. It's a Saturday evening in December, with a writer's strike contributing to no new prime time shows. If it were not Saturday evening, this duplicated event would not be happening.
Neil Beaufort Zod
Footballguy
It's okay to watch and it's okay not to watch. You aren't Superfan if you watch the Patriots beat up on Giants scrubs. You aren't a rebel if you decide to do something else.
I'm not really expecting it to be a close or interesting contest. If I'm not doing anything else, I'll watch it. But it's the holiday season, so I won't turn down a party invite like I would if it was the playoffs. It's not an enticing game, but NFL football is better than anything else on TV.
Spending a few hours in front of a glowing screen doesn't make you a part of history, and purposely missing it doesn't make you a minimalist hero. It's just nice that fans don't have to worry about which obnoxiously-greedy business venture is winning their turf war. No matter what TV system you use, you can see the game if you want. That's good for us.
I'm not really expecting it to be a close or interesting contest. If I'm not doing anything else, I'll watch it. But it's the holiday season, so I won't turn down a party invite like I would if it was the playoffs. It's not an enticing game, but NFL football is better than anything else on TV.
Spending a few hours in front of a glowing screen doesn't make you a part of history, and purposely missing it doesn't make you a minimalist hero. It's just nice that fans don't have to worry about which obnoxiously-greedy business venture is winning their turf war. No matter what TV system you use, you can see the game if you want. That's good for us.
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