Pats Kaczur caught, turned drug informant (1 Viewer)

[Bri]

BOSTON - The Boston Globe is reporting that a New England Patriots [team stats] player was arrested on drug charges, and then helped federal authorities in a sting operation that resulted in the indictment of a supplier.

New York State Police say starting offensive lineman Nicholas Kaczur was arrested in New York in April on a misdemeanor charge of illegal possession of oxycodone, a prescription painkiller.

According to court documents, a cooperating witness then worked with the Drug Enforcement Administration by wearing a hidden recording device during three drug transactions.

The alleged dealer, Daniel Ekasala was arrested and faces arraignment Wednesday in federal court.

Although the cooperating witness was not identified in court documents, Bernard Grossberg, Ekasala’s lawyer, identified the person as Kaczur.

Kaczur, when approached by the Globe, denied knowledge of the investigation. A Patriots spokesman deferred comment to law enforcement.

Above is from the bostonherald.com site

Here is the Globe link

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patr...ids_drug_sting/

 

[Zoomanji]

Surprised there isn't more comments on this.

Listening to NFL radio this morning they were speculating that in addition to any suspension that the Pats could and would just cut ties with Kaczur.

Buying a couple hundred pills every few days (awful lot for 1 guy) and then having to wear a wire for the feds probably isn't the kind of PR the Pats or any team wants

 

[switz]

Surprised there isn't more comments on this.Listening to NFL radio this morning they were speculating that in addition to any suspension that the Pats could and would just cut ties with Kaczur.Buying a couple hundred pills every few days (awful lot for 1 guy) and then having to wear a wire for the feds probably isn't the kind of PR the Pats or any team wants

I was just going to ask - how quickly does the commish suspend him?

 

[Bubbles]

The Patriots or NFL suspension (or legal ramifications) would be the least of my worries if I were him. If they know he was the informant, I have to think someone may not like that.

 

[Zoomanji]

Surprised there isn't more comments on this.Listening to NFL radio this morning they were speculating that in addition to any suspension that the Pats could and would just cut ties with Kaczur.Buying a couple hundred pills every few days (awful lot for 1 guy) and then having to wear a wire for the feds probably isn't the kind of PR the Pats or any team wants

I was just going to ask - how quickly does the commish suspend him?

I would think it would be soon. But I think Goodell usually waits till all the legal issues have cleared up with DAs and such.I'm guessing this one starts at 4 games and maybe goes longer?

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

The Patriots or NFL suspension (or legal ramifications) would be the least of my worries if I were him. If they know he was the informant, I have to think someone may not like that.

yeah big problem for him if he turned on the wrong people. Could cost him more than his job. But usually when people turn NARC, they have the charges dropped.

 

[David Yudkin]

Not sure where he ranks in the strike list for the substance program, and that could potentially matter in what happens.

 

[theunfortunatealiai]

Nobody likes a rat

 

[Workhorse]

Kind of puts the Patriots signing Oliver Ross in a new light, eh?

Kazcur is gone.

 

[sho nuff]

Not sure where he ranks in the strike list for the substance program, and that could potentially matter in what happens.

Yup...and here is the issue.Since it was less of the drug issue and more of the legality of the drug. Will this fall under the substance abuce side or personal conduct side (just writing that, a DUI would also be questionable but has been treated as the substance abuse side of it)?As for if they let him go? Maybe...but Favre basically was doing similar things with Vicodin (getting them in not so legal ways). Though, he was not busted and "turned himself in".

 

[Ozymandias]

The obvious thing for the Pats to do is to threaten to cut him, but agree to keep him on if he will go undercover and talk to the Jets' coaches while wearing a wire.

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

The obvious thing for the Pats to do is to threaten to cut him, but agree to keep him on if he will go undercover and talk to the Jets' coaches while wearing a wire.

yes, but will he have a camera in his belt buckle?

 

[T Bell]

Sounds like he was medicating pain, like Brett Favre did with Vicodin.

When do we beatify him?

 

[Mr. Sparkle]

Sounds like he was medicating pain, like Brett Favre did with Vicodin. When do we beatify him?

That is up to John Madden

 

[Tremendous Upside]

Snitches get stitches

 

[saintfool]

Nobody likes a rat

Seriously, nobody likes a snitch.

 

[sho nuff]

Sounds like he was medicating pain, like Brett Favre did with Vicodin. When do we beatify him?

When he comes forward on his own...goes to rehab...still performs at an MVP level and wins the SB the year after rehab.HTH

 

[T Bell]

Sounds like he was medicating pain, like Brett Favre did with Vicodin. When do we beatify him?

When he comes forward on his own...goes to rehab...still performs at an MVP level and wins the SB the year after rehab.HTH

All as a linemen. Good to see the rules are the same for linemen as they are for QB's (who we like).

 

[sho nuff]

Sounds like he was medicating pain, like Brett Favre did with Vicodin. When do we beatify him?

When he comes forward on his own...goes to rehab...still performs at an MVP level and wins the SB the year after rehab.HTH

All as a linemen. Good to see the rules are the same for linemen as they are for QB's (who we like).

What rules...Favre came forward and went into rehab on his own.Kaczur was busted by the feds and later cooperated to keep himself out of jail.Nice try though.

 

[twitch]

Wow, this kindof sucks. What is that, 3 or 4 guys this offseason that have been in some kindof trouble with the Pats. I dont think he's gonna get cut, but Id fully expect some kindof suspension. Maybe 4 game? I dont think he has any priors with the league, though. Who knows, maybe he'll get a slap on the wrist.

Personally, I dont know that its a huge deal. As mentioned, Favre was an addict and it didnt exactly derail his career. Im sure Kaczur is capable of right his own personal ship. I really doubt the team gives up on the guy for one incident.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Wow, this kindof sucks. What is that, 3 or 4 guys this offseason that have been in some kindof trouble with the Pats. I dont think he's gonna get cut, but Id fully expect some kindof suspension. Maybe 4 game? I dont think he has any priors with the league, though. Who knows, maybe he'll get a slap on the wrist.Personally, I dont know that its a huge deal. As mentioned, Favre was an addict and it didnt exactly derail his career. Im sure Kaczur is capable of right his own personal ship. I really doubt the team gives up on the guy for one incident.

concur, as long as he wasn't dealing the oxy.

 

[T Bell]

Sounds like he was medicating pain, like Brett Favre did with Vicodin. When do we beatify him?

When he comes forward on his own...goes to rehab...still performs at an MVP level and wins the SB the year after rehab.HTH

All as a linemen. Good to see the rules are the same for linemen as they are for QB's (who we like).

What rules...Favre came forward and went into rehab on his own.Kaczur was busted by the feds and later cooperated to keep himself out of jail.Nice try though.

Yeah, Brett's lucky that he came forward when he did. Those Kiln and Green Bay cops in that huge drug task force were just itching to arrest him. Close one.

 

[Zoomanji]

Wow, this kindof sucks. What is that, 3 or 4 guys this offseason that have been in some kindof trouble with the Pats. I dont think he's gonna get cut, but Id fully expect some kindof suspension. Maybe 4 game? I dont think he has any priors with the league, though. Who knows, maybe he'll get a slap on the wrist.

Personally, I dont know that its a huge deal. As mentioned, Favre was an addict and it didnt exactly derail his career. Im sure Kaczur is capable of right his own personal ship. I really doubt the team gives up on the guy for one incident.

concur, as long as he wasn't dealing the oxy.

From link

Federal agents arrested the alleged dealer, Daniel Ekasala, moments after the third transaction with Kaczur, said Ekasala's lawyer. He was indicted by a federal grand jury yesterday on three counts of possession of oxycodone (the main ingredient in the prescription drug OxyContin) with intent to distribute. He is due to be arraigned today in federal court.

Grossberg said that, according to DEA documents presented to him before the indictment, Kaczur said he had begun buying OxyContin in November 2007 and purchased 100 pills every few days, paying tens of thousands of dollars over time.

Granted he's a big guy but I'm guessing he wasn't taking all of them himself

 

[sho nuff]

Sounds like he was medicating pain, like Brett Favre did with Vicodin. When do we beatify him?

When he comes forward on his own...goes to rehab...still performs at an MVP level and wins the SB the year after rehab.HTH

All as a linemen. Good to see the rules are the same for linemen as they are for QB's (who we like).

What rules...Favre came forward and went into rehab on his own.Kaczur was busted by the feds and later cooperated to keep himself out of jail.Nice try though.

Yeah, Brett's lucky that he came forward when he did. Those Kiln and Green Bay cops in that huge drug task force were just itching to arrest him. Close one.

Actually he is lucky he did not die with the amount of Vicodin he was taking while drinking.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Sounds like he was medicating pain, like Brett Favre did with Vicodin. When do we beatify him?

When he comes forward on his own...goes to rehab...still performs at an MVP level and wins the SB the year after rehab.HTH

All as a linemen. Good to see the rules are the same for linemen as they are for QB's (who we like).

What rules...Favre came forward and went into rehab on his own.Kaczur was busted by the feds and later cooperated to keep himself out of jail.Nice try though.

Kaczur turned snitch out of selfpreservation...which is the same reason Favre went into rehab. Almost OD'ing on 14 vicodin was obviously an eye opening experience.

 

[Chase Stuart]

at calling Kaczur a snitch or rat because he's helping to put big time drug dealers behind bars.

I'm guessing we should hold dear the prevention of prosecution for those running drug operations.

 

[ScottyFargo]

at calling Kaczur a snitch or rat because he's helping to put big time drug dealers behind bars.

I'm guessing we should hold dear the prevention of prosecution for those running drug operations.

Not at all. But it isn't like he volunteered the information to the police before he got in trouble. He's not a hero for looking out for himself, and the feds are smart for using him to get the bigger firsh. It's obviously a good arrangement for each of them.

 

[JAA]

Not sure you can drop someone who is a drug informant and (im sure) a recovering addict

 

[Chase Stuart]

at calling Kaczur a snitch or rat because he's helping to put big time drug dealers behind bars.

I'm guessing we should hold dear the prevention of prosecution for those running drug operations.

Not at all. But it isn't like he volunteered the information to the police before he got in trouble. He's not a hero for looking out for himself, and the feds are smart for using him to get the bigger firsh. It's obviously a good arrangement for each of them.

No, he's not a hero. But he's also doing something that society should encourage and approve of.

 

[Chaos Commish]

at calling Kaczur a snitch or rat because he's helping to put big time drug dealers behind bars.

I'm guessing we should hold dear the prevention of prosecution for those running drug operations.

Not at all. But it isn't like he volunteered the information to the police before he got in trouble. He's not a hero for looking out for himself, and the feds are smart for using him to get the bigger firsh. It's obviously a good arrangement for each of them.

No, he's not a hero. But he's also doing something that society should encourage and approve of.

:( Rats

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

:( at calling Kaczur a snitch or rat because he's helping to put big time drug dealers behind bars.I'm guessing we should hold dear the prevention of prosecution for those running drug operations.

a rat's a rat chase

 

[tombonneau]

Interesting ... I recall now the last few years who there were "whispers" that Kaczur was a bit of a bad seed and wasn't favored by the coaching staff, but when I pressed fellow Pat fans about it, no one could ever point to anything concrete.

It was always just "whispers", which I completely dismissed as sewing circle gossip.

I guess this time they had some basis in reality.

Not a huge loss for Pats if he is suspended as he is generally considered the weak link on the line. Not too much of a dropoff with OCallaghan, if any at all.

Agreed that the Oliver signing makes a lot more sense now. Bet BB is wishing this wasn't the one year he finally didn't draft an OL ...

 

[Chase Stuart]

at calling Kaczur a snitch or rat because he's helping to put big time drug dealers behind bars.I'm guessing we should hold dear the prevention of prosecution for those running drug operations.

a rat's a rat chase

 

[ScottyFargo]

at calling Kaczur a snitch or rat because he's helping to put big time drug dealers behind bars.

I'm guessing we should hold dear the prevention of prosecution for those running drug operations.

Not at all. But it isn't like he volunteered the information to the police before he got in trouble. He's not a hero for looking out for himself, and the feds are smart for using him to get the bigger firsh. It's obviously a good arrangement for each of them.

No, he's not a hero. But he's also doing something that society should encourage and approve of.

I am absolutely pleased that our law enforcement uses all the little tricks that they have at their disposal to put away criminals. I don't think that calling this guy a rat or snitch is in any way saying that he shouldn't have done it. I don't believe in some code where he has to protect other criminals. I don't know what else to call what he did other than snitch, narc, or rat, because that's what it was. Informants, stool pigeons, plant, there are plenty of "unsavory" words used to describe people who are willing to turn on people more deeply entrenched in the criminal underworld to improve their situation. It's just how it is.

 

[T Bell]

I don't think that calling this guy a rat or snitch is in any way saying that he shouldn't have done it. I don't believe in some code where he has to protect other criminals.

XRead up. And again.

 

[pizzatyme]

at calling Kaczur a snitch or rat because he's helping to put big time drug dealers behind bars.I'm guessing we should hold dear the prevention of prosecution for those running drug operations.

a rat's a rat chase

Wow Chase, he's only helping to put "big time drug dealers" behind bars to keep himself out of jail.If the numbers are true (buying 100s of pills ever few days), it is easy to speculate that he was a small time dealer. So, all is well for the supposed small time dealer, eh?

 

[ScottyFargo]

I don't think that calling this guy a rat or snitch is in any way saying that he shouldn't have done it. I don't believe in some code where he has to protect other criminals.

XRead up. And again.

I'm not propogating that snitching is a bad thing simply by calling a snitch a snitch. When I said "I don't believe" in the code on the street I meant that it's stupid, as those articles illustrate not giving info to the police is far more destructive than actually being a snitch. I am aware that the stigma against snitches is there, simply put it's juvenile.

 

[T Bell]

I don't think that calling this guy a rat or snitch is in any way saying that he shouldn't have done it. I don't believe in some code where he has to protect other criminals.

XRead up. And again.

I'm not propogating that snitching is a bad thing simply by calling a snitch a snitch. When I said "I don't believe" in the code on the street I meant that it's stupid, as those articles illustrate not giving info to the police is far more destructive than actually being a snitch. I am aware that the stigma against snitches is there, simply put it's juvenile.

 

[The Great Snook]

All this talk about snitching is pure bull####. I highly doubt that there is a single person on this (or any other board) who wouldn't do the same thing to avoid prosecution or going to jail. I know my lilly white ### wouldn't survive prison and I'd snitch in a heartbeat to ensure it remains an exit and not an entrance.

 

[Chase Stuart]

at calling Kaczur a snitch or rat because he's helping to put big time drug dealers behind bars.I'm guessing we should hold dear the prevention of prosecution for those running drug operations.

a rat's a rat chase

Wow Chase, he's only helping to put "big time drug dealers" behind bars to keep himself out of jail.If the numbers are true (buying 100s of pills ever few days), it is easy to speculate that he was a small time dealer. So, all is well for the supposed small time dealer, eh?

Where did we say all is well for the small time dealer?When someone does a good deed, it doesn't matter much that his motivation may not be pure. Someone may put out a fire that was going to kill a group of people for some really sinister purpose, but we should still be happy that he puts out the fire. If you want to be mad at him for his later sinister act (if he occurs), that's fine.We should condemn Kaczur for his drug dealing, and praise him for his help in prosecuting the big fish. It sounds like some people want to blow off his drug dealing and condemn him for helping catch the big fish. That's stupid.

 

[ScottyFargo]

Snitches get stitches

Nobody likes a rat

Seriously, nobody likes a snitch.

Ah, these comments didn't even register with me the first time I read thru the thread. I read stuff like this as attempts at being intentionally ironic, I guess.

 

[Zoomanji]

Snitches get stitches

Nobody likes a rat

Seriously, nobody likes a snitch.

Ah, these comments didn't even register with me the first time I read thru the thread. I read stuff like this as attempts at being intentionally ironic, I guess.

Me too.I just took it as a joke

not like

Interesting ... I recall now the last few years who there were "whispers" that Kaczur was a bit of a bad seed and wasn't favored by the coaching staff, but when I pressed fellow Pat fans about it, no one could ever point to anything concrete.

It was always just "whispers", which I completely dismissed as sewing circle gossip.

I guess this time they had some basis in reality.

Not a huge loss for Pats if he is suspended as he is generally considered the weak link on the line. Not too much of a dropoff with OCallaghan, if any at all.

Agreed that the Oliver signing makes a lot more sense now. Bet BB is wishing this wasn't the one year he finally didn't draft an OL ...

Maybe because he was the druggie on a team of cheaters. Now that he's clean maybe he'll play betterand before I get flamed, I'll add that I was

 

[Timberlend]

Nobody likes a rat

Seriously, nobody likes a snitch.

haha but if it was your rump on the line I bet you would squeel like a stuck pig.I love how people always say they would do the right thing in hypothetical situations. lol.

 

[Banger]

I think too many of you guys watched Goodfella's a few too many times.