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Rads did u get booted week 3 last year?
:yes: Booted by my own creation in the first bye week. Figures, lmao. I really just like doing these to get early takes on player values and seeing how they can change so much in less than a two month period of time. And the bragging rights aren't bad either. :goodposting:
 
14.13 Nate Kaeding

As a note, they released the 2007 FFLM edition already, so I'll start trying to get drafts up on the website. Usually they don't do this until after the draft, so I'm not sure if they have the rooks yet. If not, I'll probably wait until they do to avoid having to redo a lot of picks.

 
Now that I'm done venting fo a little while, I'll figure out what's been taken.These last few rounds have sure become rather lively.Since BnB brought it up, anyone else buying into the bye week theory I posted in the shark pool?I'm sure BnB would say I should have played it safe by taking Pennington over Rex, but I figured with 14-1 odds I wasn't likely to get beat on it, and I was wrong. Plus Rex is much better. Hopefully MUCH better in Week 8.
Okay, I'll definitely comment here. I instinctively have always drafted in these survivor leagues (that occur before the schedule release) by keeping that sort of info in the back of my mind. I didn't run the numbers which you did which is cool. But, I just assumed that the NFL wouldn't be stupid enough to cancel out certain geographical markets by eliminating multiple teams from adjoining markets. This is neither here nor there at this point.However, imo you really shot yourself in the foot by going for multiple double dips in a league before the schedule had been released. In other words, it is YOUR fault that you got greedy by trying to go for big weeks by taking QB/WR tandems from BOTH of your QBs. In WSLs and PDSLs, I almost do whatever I can to avoid taking players from the same division, let alone the same TEAM. I know you're thinking you can get some big weeks that way, but imo you were playing this for (maybe) a score maximizing type of angle versus a survival strategy. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I interpreted your game plan.
 
14.13 Nate Kaeding

As a note, they released the 2007 FFLM edition already, so I'll start trying to get drafts up on the website. Usually they don't do this until after the draft, so I'm not sure if they have the rooks yet. If not, I'll probably wait until they do to avoid having to redo a lot of picks.
Darren,Huge thumbs up for all the hard work you do with these. I'll buy you a beer the next time you're up in No. Cal again. Until then, I'll just keep contributing the miniscule amounts that I do (relative to everything you do) to your thank you fund each year. :shock:

Couldn't do it without you.

 
You had options available that were guaranteed not to share a bye, you just passed on them.
how do these guarantees work?
:bag: :goodposting: Explain this one BNB.
:lmao: Weren't you the guy who posted the thread with the early bye information? Even a PAC10 drop out could have used that to come up with some safe choices.
Gotta run...I mull over whether or not I'm up for educating the staff later tonite.
Some of us actually try and help people - unlike others.
Did you post the Miami and NYG bye info?You've figured out the obvious one which was Pennington. Losman, Brady, Romo, Campbell, and McNabb were the others. Garcia, Lefty, and McNair weren't locks, but rather high percentage safe options.
 
You had options available that were guaranteed not to share a bye, you just passed on them.
how do these guarantees work?
:popcorn: :rant: Explain this one BNB.
:yawn: Weren't you the guy who posted the thread with the early bye information? Even a PAC10 drop out could have used that to come up with some safe choices.
Gotta run...I mull over whether or not I'm up for educating the staff later tonite.
Some of us actually try and help people - unlike others.
Did you post the Miami and NYG bye info?You've figured out the obvious one which was Pennington. Losman, Brady, Romo, Campbell, and McNabb were the others. Garcia, Lefty, and McNair weren't locks, but rather high percentage safe options.
What ridonkulous premise is this? Pick the same division and you're fine?What draft were you watching?Eli Manning - QB10Losman - hardly a tie-in to the Giants with their bye week.Brady - gone.McNabb - gone.Washington has had the same bye week as the G-men before. So has Dallas. In fact, it's MORE likely that 2 from the same division get the week off.You're assumptions on bye week safety look extremely flaVVed.
 
Now that I'm done venting fo a little while, I'll figure out what's been taken.These last few rounds have sure become rather lively.Since BnB brought it up, anyone else buying into the bye week theory I posted in the shark pool?I'm sure BnB would say I should have played it safe by taking Pennington over Rex, but I figured with 14-1 odds I wasn't likely to get beat on it, and I was wrong. Plus Rex is much better. Hopefully MUCH better in Week 8.
Okay, I'll definitely comment here. I instinctively have always drafted in these survivor leagues (that occur before the schedule release) by keeping that sort of info in the back of my mind. I didn't run the numbers which you did which is cool. But, I just assumed that the NFL wouldn't be stupid enough to cancel out certain geographical markets by eliminating multiple teams from adjoining markets. This is neither here nor there at this point.However, imo you really shot yourself in the foot by going for multiple double dips in a league before the schedule had been released. In other words, it is YOUR fault that you got greedy by trying to go for big weeks by taking QB/WR tandems from BOTH of your QBs. In WSLs and PDSLs, I almost do whatever I can to avoid taking players from the same division, let alone the same TEAM. I know you're thinking you can get some big weeks that way, but imo you were playing this for (maybe) a score maximizing type of angle versus a survival strategy. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I interpreted your game plan.
Ollie,Thanks for the commentary.My intentions were never to double-dip on purpose, but I wasn't opposed to getting 2 on a team. I would have taken Shockey or Plax to go with Eli (and I wanted Lee Evans, but missed by 1 pick). I figured that I would be fine since I'd take plenty of WRs and my QB2 would have a 14-1 shot of not having the same bye week regardless of who I chose.Muhsin was the best available WR3, so I took him. If he's off the same week as my QB2 (which I chose later), so what - I'm going to have 6 or more WRs so no big deal.Well, I rolled the dice and lost here with that 1 in 15 shot. Who knew. Now I hope Carr can surpass Delhomme by Week 9 and my other WRs can step up.I passed on Toomer on purpose at the Henry pick for the same reasoning - I can't take 3 from one team, that'd be a problem - so I took Henry since he was at about where he should go and I didn't figure on more than a 4 game suspension. Wrong there too. Bye week on Cincy hurts (although that was highly likely) that makes him out until Week 10.Still worth the price of admission, especially if Carr takes the helm of BnB's fav team.
 
Now that I'm done venting fo a little while, I'll figure out what's been taken.These last few rounds have sure become rather lively.Since BnB brought it up, anyone else buying into the bye week theory I posted in the shark pool?I'm sure BnB would say I should have played it safe by taking Pennington over Rex, but I figured with 14-1 odds I wasn't likely to get beat on it, and I was wrong. Plus Rex is much better. Hopefully MUCH better in Week 8.
Okay, I'll definitely comment here. I instinctively have always drafted in these survivor leagues (that occur before the schedule release) by keeping that sort of info in the back of my mind. I didn't run the numbers which you did which is cool. But, I just assumed that the NFL wouldn't be stupid enough to cancel out certain geographical markets by eliminating multiple teams from adjoining markets. This is neither here nor there at this point.However, imo you really shot yourself in the foot by going for multiple double dips in a league before the schedule had been released. In other words, it is YOUR fault that you got greedy by trying to go for big weeks by taking QB/WR tandems from BOTH of your QBs. In WSLs and PDSLs, I almost do whatever I can to avoid taking players from the same division, let alone the same TEAM. I know you're thinking you can get some big weeks that way, but imo you were playing this for (maybe) a score maximizing type of angle versus a survival strategy. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I interpreted your game plan.
Now I hope Carr can surpass Delhomme by Week 9 and my other WRs can step up.Still worth the price of admission, especially if Carr takes the helm of BnB's fav team.
JP, I empathize with your byes, but you're starting to ruffle my feathers with this talk about Carr supplanting Delhomme. Either you think Carr is vastly underrated, you think Delhomme really sucks, or you think my favorite team is going to hell this season. Which is it?
 
JP, I empathize with your byes, but you're starting to ruffle my feathers with this talk about Carr supplanting Delhomme. Either you think Carr is vastly underrated, you think Delhomme really sucks, or you think my favorite team is going to hell this season. Which is it?
:confused: Another Panthers fan? I didn't know that.Delhomme's not that good - really. He's rather inaccurate, but he has the blessing of Steve Smith to make him look good.Look at what he did (or rather, didn't) without Smith. I'm sure you would agree that he's more of a chucker than a pinpoint passer, so a SSmith guy is great for him. Jake doesn't squeeze the ball into tight spaces and get the job done that way, and even though I missed on the Boller angle :wall: they aren't thrilled with him from what I've seen, heard and read in Carolina.He didn't do well last year, and Weinke isn't the answer (see ya) so they went and got a younger QB who has starter experience. Some on NFL-N have even said that they expect more starts from Carr than Jake this year. As for my team, with Fiddles taking both rookies back to back, I had a choice of very questionable QBs or a clear #2 with a good chance at starting and/or producing in Week 9. If Jake gets hurt or gets benched, Carolina plays Cleveland that week IIRC and could do well.Many have also said that it is a 2 QB league and you need 2, and fortunately for your team Carr is a very competent backup. I think he was more of a scapegoat in Houston than anything else.
 
Carr wont be replacing Delhomme unless Delhomme totally melts down.

He got backup money to be a backup.

I thought he was a horrible pick and I'll explain why after the draft.

 
JP, I empathize with your byes, but you're starting to ruffle my feathers with this talk about Carr supplanting Delhomme. Either you think Carr is vastly underrated, you think Delhomme really sucks, or you think my favorite team is going to hell this season. Which is it?
:goodposting: Another Panthers fan? I didn't know that.Delhomme's not that good - really. He's rather inaccurate, but he has the blessing of Steve Smith to make him look good.Look at what he did (or rather, didn't) without Smith. I'm sure you would agree that he's more of a chucker than a pinpoint passer, so a SSmith guy is great for him. Jake doesn't squeeze the ball into tight spaces and get the job done that way, and even though I missed on the Boller angle :unsure: they aren't thrilled with him from what I've seen, heard and read in Carolina.He didn't do well last year, and Weinke isn't the answer (see ya) so they went and got a younger QB who has starter experience. Some on NFL-N have even said that they expect more starts from Carr than Jake this year. As for my team, with Fiddles taking both rookies back to back, I had a choice of very questionable QBs or a clear #2 with a good chance at starting and/or producing in Week 9. If Jake gets hurt or gets benched, Carolina plays Cleveland that week IIRC and could do well.Many have also said that it is a 2 QB league and you need 2, and fortunately for your team Carr is a very competent backup. I think he was more of a scapegoat in Houston than anything else.
Wow...you just described McNabb.Even if your Carr angle has some merit, he would have been around for another five rounds at least. You could have drafted the Raiders week 9 QB instead. In summary, you win the Nall award for 2007.
 
Now that I'm done venting fo a little while, I'll figure out what's been taken.These last few rounds have sure become rather lively.Since BnB brought it up, anyone else buying into the bye week theory I posted in the shark pool?I'm sure BnB would say I should have played it safe by taking Pennington over Rex, but I figured with 14-1 odds I wasn't likely to get beat on it, and I was wrong. Plus Rex is much better. Hopefully MUCH better in Week 8.
Okay, I'll definitely comment here. I instinctively have always drafted in these survivor leagues (that occur before the schedule release) by keeping that sort of info in the back of my mind. I didn't run the numbers which you did which is cool. But, I just assumed that the NFL wouldn't be stupid enough to cancel out certain geographical markets by eliminating multiple teams from adjoining markets. This is neither here nor there at this point.However, imo you really shot yourself in the foot by going for multiple double dips in a league before the schedule had been released. In other words, it is YOUR fault that you got greedy by trying to go for big weeks by taking QB/WR tandems from BOTH of your QBs. In WSLs and PDSLs, I almost do whatever I can to avoid taking players from the same division, let alone the same TEAM. I know you're thinking you can get some big weeks that way, but imo you were playing this for (maybe) a score maximizing type of angle versus a survival strategy. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I interpreted your game plan.
Ollie,Thanks for the commentary.My intentions were never to double-dip on purpose, but I wasn't opposed to getting 2 on a team. I would have taken Shockey or Plax to go with Eli (and I wanted Lee Evans, but missed by 1 pick). I figured that I would be fine since I'd take plenty of WRs and my QB2 would have a 14-1 shot of not having the same bye week regardless of who I chose.Muhsin was the best available WR3, so I took him. If he's off the same week as my QB2 (which I chose later), so what - I'm going to have 6 or more WRs so no big deal.Well, I rolled the dice and lost here with that 1 in 15 shot. Who knew. Now I hope Carr can surpass Delhomme by Week 9 and my other WRs can step up.I passed on Toomer on purpose at the Henry pick for the same reasoning - I can't take 3 from one team, that'd be a problem - so I took Henry since he was at about where he should go and I didn't figure on more than a 4 game suspension. Wrong there too. Bye week on Cincy hurts (although that was highly likely) that makes him out until Week 10.Still worth the price of admission, especially if Carr takes the helm of BnB's fav team.
Fair enough. Good to get an understanding of your mindset so far through the draft. Maybe more than one survivor league before the schedule comes out is one too many anyway.I do agree with Bass though when he refers to the WSL leagues in terms of risk management. There's a ton of things going on in terms of how someone manages uncertainty that doesn't come up in other drafts that take place in the spring to summer months or later. For some people, it might mean taking QBs extremely earlier than normal, or maybe even three of them in case of potential bye week conflicts that later rear their ugly head. For others, it might mean doubling up on WR2s and WR3s from the same team in order to smooth out weekly scoring results or whatever. I learn something new each year when it comes to different survivor strategies that others try to employ. Jumping into 12 team redrafts in August and September ends up seeming like a cake walk once you've battled through 4 or 5 of these 16 teamers in the offseason for sure.
 
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I learn something new each year when it comes to different survivor strategies each year that others try to employ. Jumping into 12 team redrafts in August and September ends up seeming like a cake walk once you've battled through 4 or 5 of these 16 teamers in the offseason for sure.
On this point I couldn't agree more.Then again, NOTHING could compare to the startup dynasty league of Red Dog, where we did 16 teams, full IDP and 45 rounds.That's right - 720 players.I almost drafted Andy Reid.
 
Carr wont be replacing Delhomme unless Delhomme totally melts down.
That won't take that long.
He got backup money to be a backup.
Yes, but I think he's 6'4". I hear that helps.
I thought he was a horrible pick and I'll explain why after the draft.
This is high praise here, but of course cannot wait for the riveting commentary and in depth analysis.Is this before or after you start a SP thread on your 20th pick?
 
Leaving tomorrow afternoon for the mountains again...probably won't be back until Monday nite. Will get the SSL sign-ups rolling then. Co-owner Pimpin' will be in charge in the interim.

 

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