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ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - Andy Pettitte declined his $16 million option with the New York Yankees, still uncertain whether he wants to pitch next season.

"I have spoken with Brian Cashman, who has reiterated what Hank Steinbrenner said about the Yankees wanting to give Andy all the time he needs to decide about next season," Pettitte's agent, Randy Hendricks, said Monday in an e-mail to The Associated Press. "Accordingly, we are declining to exercise the option for 2008 and Andy will declare free agency in order to free up a roster spot for the Yankees.

"If Andy decides to play, I am confident we can reach an agreement with the Yankees within 24 hours. The only options, as Andy has stated, are the Yankees or retirement. He appreciates the Yankees' willingness to give him the time he feels he needs. I do not expect him to make a decision for quite some time."

The 35-year-old left-hander went 15-9 with a 4.05 ERA for the Yankees this year, including 11-3 after the All-Star break. He was their most effective starter in the postseason, pitching 6 1-3 scoreless innings in Game 2 of New York's first-round loss to Cleveland.

Pettitte had until Wednesday to decide on his option, part of the contract he agreed to last December when he returned to the Yankees after three seasons with his hometown Houston Astros. That deal paid him a $16 million salary this year.

"Obviously, we want Andy to stay with the Yanks and pitch for us in '08. In fact, I'd say I need him to," said Cashman, the team's general manager. "He's an important piece for us. ... We're hopeful that at some point that the marriage of the Pettittes and the Yankees can continue."

Last month, Pettitte said he wasn't sure whether he would play again, saying he had to relax and discuss the matter with his family.

"I wouldn't have ever imagined my arm feeling as good as it has," he said. "I'm just very, very blessed, feel very blessed that my arm has held up and I felt strong all year. I haven't had any problems with my elbow this year."

New York is in a state of flux. Manager Joe Torre left after 12 seasons when the team offered him a paycut, and third baseman Alex Rodriguez chose to terminate his record $252 million, 10-year contract with three seasons remaining and become a free agent. The Yankees have said they won't negotiate with A-Rod now that he's opted out.

New York is attempting to re-sign closer Mariano Rivera and catcher Jorge Posada, who both became free agents.

Cashman said Pettitte called him and they spoke for 10-20 minutes. Pettitte has a standing offer of $16 million he can accept at any time. Cashman wouldn't discuss whether the team would entertain a new deal.

"He told me specifically this is not about waiting to see what kind of club we have on the field and anything regarding the manager," Cashman said. "He's earned the right to take some more time, as far as we're concerned."

Without Pettitte, new Yankees manager Joe Girardi would have a projected rotation that includes 19-game winner Chien-Ming Wang, who lost twice to Cleveland in the playoffs; Mike Mussina, who will be 39 next month; and youngsters Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain and Ian Kennedy.

On another front, Cashman said he will use this week's GM meetings to explore options for replacing Rodriguez at third base.

"It's time to start scoping out all our needs," he said. "Third is one of them. That's not going to develop all that quickly."

 

[wilked]

Yanks would be ####ed

 

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Yanks would be ####ed

somewhere the twins and johan santana are licking their chops. As a baseball fan, i hate to see andy go.... one hell of a pitcher and a class act. he's still got "it".... As a Red Sox fan... thank God... another big hit to the yankees in this offseason.

 

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Yanks would be ####ed

somewhere the twins and johan santana are licking their chops.

As a baseball fan, i hate to see andy go.... one hell of a pitcher and a class act. he's still got "it"....

As a Red Sox fan... thank God... another big hit to the yankees in this offseason.

Sounds to me like Petite is just buying time and will be back... JMO.And it's all opinions but, to me the Yankees had exactly 1 "Big Hit" this offseason, of course being AROD but, they also have that money to spend.

We'll see..... Fun to see the haters get all excited and pop open new threads though.

 

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Yanks would be ####ed

somewhere the twins and johan santana are licking their chops.

As a baseball fan, i hate to see andy go.... one hell of a pitcher and a class act. he's still got "it"....

As a Red Sox fan... thank God... another big hit to the yankees in this offseason.

Sounds to me like Petite is just buying time and will be back... JMO.And it's all opinions but, to me the Yankees had exactly 1 "Big Hit" this offseason, of course being AROD but, they also have that money to spend.

We'll see..... Fun to see the haters get all excited and pop open new threads though.

So you don't think losing Torre / Mattingly (not confirmed) is a hit? Arod (20% of the Yankee offense) is gone as well. Pettite MIGHT be gone. Roger's gone (not that he was much of anything)...etc. I don't think anyone's saying the Bronx is burning, nor am I being a "hater" by saying Andy is a class act and I hate to see him go, .... but you can'd deny that this Squad is losing a few key pieces of the puzzle... and losing Andy would be another big one.

 

[ooofffaaa]

Slowly but surely the rats are jumping ship . . .

Arod

Torre

Mattingly

Bowa

Who's next?

Posada?

Pettitte?

Did the Yankees underestimate some of the loyalty towards Torre?

 

[Reaper]

Yanks would be ####ed

somewhere the twins and johan santana are licking their chops.

As a baseball fan, i hate to see andy go.... one hell of a pitcher and a class act. he's still got "it"....

As a Red Sox fan... thank God... another big hit to the yankees in this offseason.

Sounds to me like Petite is just buying time and will be back... JMO.And it's all opinions but, to me the Yankees had exactly 1 "Big Hit" this offseason, of course being AROD but, they also have that money to spend.

We'll see..... Fun to see the haters get all excited and pop open new threads though.

So you don't think losing Torre / Mattingly (not confirmed) is a hit? Arod (20% of the Yankee offense) is gone as well. Pettite MIGHT be gone. Roger's gone (not that he was much of anything)...etc. I don't think anyone's saying the Bronx is burning, nor am I being a "hater" by saying Andy is a class act and I hate to see him go, .... but you can'd deny that this Squad is losing a few key pieces of the puzzle... and losing Andy would be another big one.

I Wanted Girardi.... Didn't hate Torre but, for a few years now I've said his time has come.

I did fear not getting Girardi - I grew up Loving Mattingly, - But, as a Coach????? He's got very little experience and only his playing reputation to lean on, I'd be fearful right now if they hired him to run the whole show off of a few years as a hitting and bench coach...

To me, the only loss was AROD so far.... And I was never anti-Arod.. I was always 100% in his corner but, still I think the team can do a lot with that money and the pitching staff WITH Pettite could be as good as it's been in a long while.

The start of this year was a complete pitching disaster, I can't see it being anywhere near....

I think Girardi can pump some life into the team where Joe's routine became a bit lackluster and lifeless at times where they needed a jump......

Roger?.. Oh and let me add. I'm probably in the minority in thinking that Roger was another big reason the team made the playoffs and was an incredible influence on the younger arms this past year but, he should finish off in the National league if he pitches again.

 

[shadyridr]

Yanks would be ####ed

somewhere the twins and johan santana are licking their chops.

As a baseball fan, i hate to see andy go.... one hell of a pitcher and a class act. he's still got "it"....

As a Red Sox fan... thank God... another big hit to the yankees in this offseason.

Sounds to me like Petite is just buying time and will be back... JMO.And it's all opinions but, to me the Yankees had exactly 1 "Big Hit" this offseason, of course being AROD but, they also have that money to spend.

We'll see..... Fun to see the haters get all excited and pop open new threads though.

So you don't think losing Torre / Mattingly (not confirmed) is a hit? Arod (20% of the Yankee offense) is gone as well. Pettite MIGHT be gone. Roger's gone (not that he was much of anything)...etc. I don't think anyone's saying the Bronx is burning, nor am I being a "hater" by saying Andy is a class act and I hate to see him go, .... but you can'd deny that this Squad is losing a few key pieces of the puzzle... and losing Andy would be another big one.

Lets wait to see A) if Pettitte is actually gone B) what the rest of the offseason brings before calling the demise of the Yankees

 

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Slowly but surely the rats are jumping ship . . . ArodTorreMattinglyBowaWho's next?Posada?Pettitte?Did the Yankees underestimate some of the loyalty towards Torre?

Come on ooof... Nothing has happened yet based on Torre leaving....MATTINGLY - Are you guys serious - I was the biggest Mattingly fan, I had Mattingly posters on my wall and based my original pin numbers and every number I had to use on his 23 and I didn't think twice about "losing" him.... Is he really viewed as the Next Great MLB Manager??????? Based off of what???? That would have been such a horrible hire based on Steinbrenner liking him. AROD is about $$$$$$$..... It'll be fun to see where he goes.I'd worry about the Muts and putting a staff together there that can beat the dregs of MLB down the stretch....... Too bad the Yankees can't play in the NL east though....

 

[Clifton]

I've heard insider rumors Theo has dinner reservations with Pettite on Thanksgiving

 

[Balco]

Huge hit to the Yanks if Pettite in fact retires. But like someone said, I have a feeling he will be back in pinstriped next year.

And for those who said Mattingly was a loss? Listen I am a Sox fan and am enjoying the Yankees roster getting decimated, but what exactly did Mattingly do? He has no managerial experience. I don't know what people's infatuation with him is. The Yankees made the right move by hiring Girardi and it's not even close.

 

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I dubbed him the nickname, Ape Titte a couple yrs. back. Thanks for reminding me.

 

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Lets wait to see A) if Pettitte is actually gone B) what the rest of the offseason brings before calling the demise of the Yankees

Who called the demise of the Yankees? I merely stated that these things (losing Arod, torre, mattingly, and possibly pettitte) are all blows to the franchise. I have no doubt that if Pettitte is gone that the yankees will go sign at least 1 if not 2 of th top arms in the FA market. I also am sure Girardi was the right hire. Not 100% sure he'll be as successfull as Torre but he's good.

MATTINGLY - Are you guys serious - I was the biggest Mattingly fan, I had Mattingly posters on my wall and based my original pin numbers and every number I had to use on his 23 and I didn't think twice about "losing" him.... Is he really viewed as the Next Great MLB Manager??????? Based off of what???? That would have been such a horrible hire based on Steinbrenner liking him.

Why, exactly, are you assuming I was saying Mattingly should have been a manager? He WAS the hitting coach for the Yankees right? Are you implying that he is easily replaceable in that role? I do not know. I assumed he was good at what he did.

 

[shadyridr]

Lets wait to see A) if Pettitte is actually gone B) what the rest of the offseason brings before calling the demise of the Yankees

Who called the demise of the Yankees? I merely stated that these things (losing Arod, torre, mattingly, and possibly pettitte) are all blows to the franchise. I have no doubt that if Pettitte is gone that the yankees will go sign at least 1 if not 2 of th top arms in the FA market. I also am sure Girardi was the right hire. Not 100% sure he'll be as successfull as Torre but he's good.

MATTINGLY - Are you guys serious - I was the biggest Mattingly fan, I had Mattingly posters on my wall and based my original pin numbers and every number I had to use on his 23 and I didn't think twice about "losing" him.... Is he really viewed as the Next Great MLB Manager??????? Based off of what???? That would have been such a horrible hire based on Steinbrenner liking him.

Why, exactly, are you assuming I was saying Mattingly should have been a manager? He WAS the hitting coach for the Yankees right? Are you implying that he is easily replaceable in that role? I do not know. I assumed he was good at what he did.

Wrong. Kevin Long was and is still the hitting coach

 

[shadyridr]

Lets wait to see A) if Pettitte is actually gone B) what the rest of the offseason brings before calling the demise of the Yankees

Who called the demise of the Yankees? I merely stated that these things (losing Arod, torre, mattingly, and possibly pettitte) are all blows to the franchise. I have no doubt that if Pettitte is gone that the yankees will go sign at least 1 if not 2 of th top arms in the FA market. I also am sure Girardi was the right hire. Not 100% sure he'll be as successfull as Torre but he's good.

Losing Mattingly is meaningless, losing Torre sucked but Girardi should be a very worthwhile replacement, we didnt lose Pettitte yet. So basically the only loss Im counting right now is ARod which I agree is a HUGE loss.

 

[Reaper]

Lets wait to see A) if Pettitte is actually gone B) what the rest of the offseason brings before calling the demise of the Yankees

Who called the demise of the Yankees? I merely stated that these things (losing Arod, torre, mattingly, and possibly pettitte) are all blows to the franchise. I have no doubt that if Pettitte is gone that the yankees will go sign at least 1 if not 2 of th top arms in the FA market. I also am sure Girardi was the right hire. Not 100% sure he'll be as successfull as Torre but he's good.

MATTINGLY - Are you guys serious - I was the biggest Mattingly fan, I had Mattingly posters on my wall and based my original pin numbers and every number I had to use on his 23 and I didn't think twice about "losing" him.... Is he really viewed as the Next Great MLB Manager??????? Based off of what???? That would have been such a horrible hire based on Steinbrenner liking him.

Why, exactly, are you assuming I was saying Mattingly should have been a manager? He WAS the hitting coach for the Yankees right? Are you implying that he is easily replaceable in that role? I do not know. I assumed he was good at what he did.

Kevin Long is the name of the Yankees hitting coach from last year.......Did Mattingly also give input???? Probably..... WAS he the hitting coach before, yeah. Yeah, I think he's easily replaceable.... Unless you can point to specific references and accomplishments of Mattingly, I think a lot of his hype comes from his playing days and the love and respect the Owners and management have for him.... I just don't see this as a BLOW....On my scorecard the Yankees have 1 loss.... Albeit a BIG loss, but, I don't think you just subtract Arod numbers without realizing that (1) I doubt he matches that again and (2) someone will fill part of those shoes - Possibly at 3rd base PLUS more for all that money and (3) The pitching staff shouldn't be in the dissaray it was for the 1st half of last year needing Arod heroics.....I kinda think that with Girardi and without AROD the TEAM becomes more of the focus again and they play better all around and inspired ball.....Hey, again, I grew up on Mattingly - One day when he has experience I hope he comes back to manage here and I can see that.

 

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As info for those who might not have heard the latest:

Andy wants "more time with his family"... ie hinting toward a Roger Clemens style "family-plan"... which I figured was going to be a slippery slope (once you offer it to one... others start asking for it). Apparently the Yankees are not keen on offfering the same deal.. but are working with him.

Steinbrenner praised Pettitte’s talent and leadership and said he understood Pettitte’s desire to be around his family more often. Steinbrenner said he was not suggesting the Yankees offer a Roger Clemens-style “family plan,” in which Pettitte could leave the team on the days he does not pitch, but he said the Yankees “can make sure that he gets plenty of family time.”

Info from PeteAbe to Cashman implies that a deal is close:

er PeteAbe's convo with Cashmoney in Orlando,

“What about Andy Pettitte?” I asked.

“I have a good hunch,” he said with a smile.

 

[Reaper]

As info for those who might not have heard the latest:

Andy wants "more time with his family"... ie hinting toward a Roger Clemens style "family-plan"... which I figured was going to be a slippery slope (once you offer it to one... others start asking for it). Apparently the Yankees are not keen on offfering the same deal.. but are working with him.

Steinbrenner praised Pettitte’s talent and leadership and said he understood Pettitte’s desire to be around his family more often. Steinbrenner said he was not suggesting the Yankees offer a Roger Clemens-style “family plan,” in which Pettitte could leave the team on the days he does not pitch, but he said the Yankees “can make sure that he gets plenty of family time.”

Info from PeteAbe to Cashman implies that a deal is close:

er PeteAbe's convo with Cashmoney in Orlando,

“What about Andy Pettitte?” I asked.

“I have a good hunch,” he said with a smile.

NICE!!!

Sounds good to me... The whole Roger plan thing was WAYYYYYY Overblown.

The most important part of all that is it that a deal will probably get done as we said.

 

[shadyridr]

And if I recall Roger was with the Yanks the majority of the time and only flew back to HOU about 2 times.

 

[Reaper]

And if I recall Roger was with the Yanks the majority of the time and only flew back to HOU about 2 times.

And I personally thought Roger was a tremendous influence on the younger guys - Which people scoffed at when I said it they day he was signed, talking about him being away and all... Now you read in the Sox threads about how Schilling is a good influence

 

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And if I recall Roger was with the Yanks the majority of the time and only flew back to HOU about 2 times.

And I personally thought Roger was a tremendous influence on the younger guys - Which people scoffed at when I said it they day he was signed, talking about him being away and all... Now you read in the Sox threads about how Schilling is a good influence

Wow you guys are cranky/sensitive. Schilling is a blowhard but he taught Papelbon his splitter which is now ranked among the best in baseball. He also didn't take a "Family plan" that gave him an option to only show up on days he pitched. I give roger credit if he only took 2 days off.. he was notorious for never being around when he played in Houston. Apparently he learned from the criticism and managed to show up every day in NY (except for days when he pitched )

 

[the moops]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.

His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.

Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

 

[shadyridr]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

 

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For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

Now that Schilling has signed... yes.

 

[the moops]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

Which says more about the free agent class than it does about Pettite.

 

[428143]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

This is true, Kerry Wood is the only pitcher on the market I'd take over Pettite, only because he had elite closer stuff for the last two months of the year, of course, it would be a huge gamble, but Wood did lose 50 pounds over the past two years, so maybe he has something left in the tank...

 

[shadyridr]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

This is true, Kerry Wood is the only pitcher on the market I'd take over Pettite, only because he had elite closer stuff for the last two months of the year, of course, it would be a huge gamble, but Wood did lose 50 pounds over the past two years, so maybe he has something left in the tank...

Im actually hoping the Yanks can sign him to be a setup man

 

[Reaper]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

Now that Schilling has signed... yes.

Guys on the radio shows last week were SCREAMING for the Mets to go after Schilling....

 

[wilked]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

Now that Schilling has signed... yes.

Guys on the radio shows last week were SCREAMING for the Mets to go after Schilling....

Schill was a better pitcher then Pettitte this year by any metric other than wins / innings. He struck out people at a higher rate, gave up runs at a lower rate, walked people about half as often as Pettitte, and gave up hits at a lower rate then Pettitte. Both pitchers clearly still have something left to offer, and probably are not too far apart in terms of effectiveness, but I take the guy who has the better career (as well as previous year) if I have to pick one pitcher for '08.

 

[shadyridr]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

Now that Schilling has signed... yes.

Guys on the radio shows last week were SCREAMING for the Mets to go after Schilling....

Schill was a better pitcher then Pettitte this year by any metric other than wins / innings. He struck out people at a higher rate, gave up runs at a lower rate, walked people about half as often as Pettitte, and gave up hits at a lower rate then Pettitte. Both pitchers clearly still have something left to offer, and probably are not too far apart in terms of effectiveness, but I take the guy who has the better career (as well as previous year) if I have to pick one pitcher for '08.

who said Pettitte was better than Schilling?

 

[Reaper]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

Now that Schilling has signed... yes.

Guys on the radio shows last week were SCREAMING for the Mets to go after Schilling....

Schill was a better pitcher then Pettitte this year by any metric other than wins / innings. He struck out people at a higher rate, gave up runs at a lower rate, walked people about half as often as Pettitte, and gave up hits at a lower rate then Pettitte. Both pitchers clearly still have something left to offer, and probably are not too far apart in terms of effectiveness, but I take the guy who has the better career (as well as previous year) if I have to pick one pitcher for '08.

who said Pettitte was better than Schilling?

WTF

 

[shadyridr]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

Now that Schilling has signed... yes.

Guys on the radio shows last week were SCREAMING for the Mets to go after Schilling....

Schill was a better pitcher then Pettitte this year by any metric other than wins / innings. He struck out people at a higher rate, gave up runs at a lower rate, walked people about half as often as Pettitte, and gave up hits at a lower rate then Pettitte. Both pitchers clearly still have something left to offer, and probably are not too far apart in terms of effectiveness, but I take the guy who has the better career (as well as previous year) if I have to pick one pitcher for '08.

who said Pettitte was better than Schilling?

WTF

why are you confused?

 

[Reaper]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

Now that Schilling has signed... yes.

Guys on the radio shows last week were SCREAMING for the Mets to go after Schilling....

Schill was a better pitcher then Pettitte this year by any metric other than wins / innings. He struck out people at a higher rate, gave up runs at a lower rate, walked people about half as often as Pettitte, and gave up hits at a lower rate then Pettitte. Both pitchers clearly still have something left to offer, and probably are not too far apart in terms of effectiveness, but I take the guy who has the better career (as well as previous year) if I have to pick one pitcher for '08.

who said Pettitte was better than Schilling?

WTF

why are you confused?

I'm agreeing with you - I have no idea how a mention of the Mets possible interest in Schilling turns into a comparison....I think it's safe to say that the Yankees and Yankee fans would rather have Pettite and Sox fans would rather have Schill.....

 

[the moops]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

Now that Schilling has signed... yes.

Guys on the radio shows last week were SCREAMING for the Mets to go after Schilling....

Schill was a better pitcher then Pettitte this year by any metric other than wins / innings. He struck out people at a higher rate, gave up runs at a lower rate, walked people about half as often as Pettitte, and gave up hits at a lower rate then Pettitte. Both pitchers clearly still have something left to offer, and probably are not too far apart in terms of effectiveness, but I take the guy who has the better career (as well as previous year) if I have to pick one pitcher for '08.

who said Pettitte was better than Schilling?

WTF

why are you confused?

I'm agreeing with you - I have no idea how a mention of the Mets possible interest in Schilling turns into a comparison....I think it's safe to say that the Yankees and Yankee fans would rather have Pettite and Sox fans would rather have Schill.....

I would hope fans of either team would want the better pitcher.

 

[shadyridr]

For 2 years now, Andy Pettite had been basically a slightly above average pitcher.His WHIP for the past 2 years has been a pretty ugly 1.43. ERA of over 4.00.Yea, he pitches alot of innings, and I know money isn't an issue with the Yanks....but he has been paid 16 million dollars each of the past 2 years. Overrated and overpaid.

Hed be the top FA on the market

Now that Schilling has signed... yes.

Guys on the radio shows last week were SCREAMING for the Mets to go after Schilling....

Schill was a better pitcher then Pettitte this year by any metric other than wins / innings. He struck out people at a higher rate, gave up runs at a lower rate, walked people about half as often as Pettitte, and gave up hits at a lower rate then Pettitte. Both pitchers clearly still have something left to offer, and probably are not too far apart in terms of effectiveness, but I take the guy who has the better career (as well as previous year) if I have to pick one pitcher for '08.

who said Pettitte was better than Schilling?

WTF

why are you confused?

I'm agreeing with you - I have no idea how a mention of the Mets possible interest in Schilling turns into a comparison....I think it's safe to say that the Yankees and Yankee fans would rather have Pettite and Sox fans would rather have Schill.....

Well Schilling is the better pitcher but I hate him with a passion so yes I would rather have Pettitte.