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Peyton Hillis - Chiefs (1 Viewer)

Peyton to the Chiefs!!! would have been a cool thread title.

I like Hillis and think this is a great fit.

 
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thank you thank you thank you......great signing by my boys......Hillis will quickly become a fan favorite.....

 
Charles owners used to scream at Haley for using Thomas Jones..now they have something to cry about. Charles will not get a sniff of the goal line with Hillis.

 
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I still think Charles is a good back but this is confirmation that the team doesn't think he can carry the load without help. It's just smart on their part. Not too many RBs anymore CAN carry the ball 300 plus times/season.

 
Back together will Daboll. He is going to get serious carries. I'm guessing a 60/40 split with the majority going to Charles, assuming he is healthy.

 
plus he can catch....

this a great signing....Hillis could carry 30 times a game if need be if Charles is dinged or 12 or whatever otherwise......can wear down the defense here and there opening things up for Charles...4th quarter clock eater....

cartwheels from this KC fan.....well done boys

 
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'Hoosier16 said:
'Gawain said:
Bush to Cincy, Tolbert to Giants makes too much sense to happen.
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Cincy can get a much, much, younger RB in the draft for about 2 mil a year. Unless Bush is willing to sign for that, I can't see it happening.
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I see Bush as similar to Benson only he is a better receiver and doesn't fumble as much. If they can get Bush for less than they were paying Benson that seems like an improvement.
 
'az_prof said:
'Hoosier16 said:
'Gawain said:
Bush to Cincy, Tolbert to Giants makes too much sense to happen.
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Cincy can get a much, much, younger RB in the draft for about 2 mil a year. Unless Bush is willing to sign for that, I can't see it happening.
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I see Bush as similar to Benson only he is a better receiver and doesn't fumble as much. If they can get Bush for less than they were paying Benson that seems like an improvement.
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Benson played for 3 million last year. I can't see Bush signing a 1 year deal for 3 million. Bush had 4 fumbles in about 700 touches. Benson had 11 in about 1600 touches. No siginificant difference.In addition, Bush is only 1 1/2 years younger than Benson. It doesn't make any sense.
 
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'Hoosier16 said:
'az_prof said:
'Hoosier16 said:
'Gawain said:
Bush to Cincy, Tolbert to Giants makes too much sense to happen.
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Cincy can get a much, much, younger RB in the draft for about 2 mil a year. Unless Bush is willing to sign for that, I can't see it happening.
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I see Bush as similar to Benson only he is a better receiver and doesn't fumble as much. If they can get Bush for less than they were paying Benson that seems like an improvement.
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Benson played for 3 million last year. I can't see Bush signing a 1 year deal for 3 million. Bush had 4 fumbles in about 700 touches. Benson had 11 in about 1600 touches. No siginificant difference.In addition, Bush is only 1 1/2 years younger than Benson. It doesn't make any sense.
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Charles 1,600-1,800 total yards (rushing/receiving) 4 TD'sHillis 1,100-1,300 total yards (rushing/receiving) 16 TD'sI think the Chiefs will run 60%-65% of the time in 20012. I think Hillis could score alot of TD's with the Chiefs. Charles won't score many rushing TD's if any.
 
'Donsmith753 said:
'greggorymac said:
Horrible news for Charles owners.
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Disagree, obviously he's not in the position he was yesterday but it was unrealistic to expect KC not to sign another back and this is far from horrible.
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How can you disagree? How many TDs did Thomas Jones "steal" from Charles in 2010? Hillis is 3x the back TJ is. Hillis can also catch really well so their playbook is wide open with him in at the goal line. Plus Charles is coming off a knee injury so you think the Chiefs are going to let him carry it at the goal line? Yes, it was clear that KC was going to bring in another back but Hillis is the best all around back they could have brought in (compared to BGE, Tolbert or Bush).
 
'greggorymac said:
'Donsmith753 said:
'greggorymac said:
Horrible news for Charles owners.
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Disagree, obviously he's not in the position he was yesterday but it was unrealistic to expect KC not to sign another back and this is far from horrible.
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How can you disagree? How many TDs did Thomas Jones "steal" from Charles in 2010? Hillis is 3x the back TJ is. Hillis can also catch really well so their playbook is wide open with him in at the goal line. Plus Charles is coming off a knee injury so you think the Chiefs are going to let him carry it at the goal line? Yes, it was clear that KC was going to bring in another back but Hillis is the best all around back they could have brought in (compared to BGE, Tolbert or Bush).
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You realize Haley the sh**bag is gone. Also this should remove Richardson from KC boards. To be honest Hillis looked like garbage last year, he has a lot of quit in him.
 
'greggorymac said:
'Donsmith753 said:
'greggorymac said:
Horrible news for Charles owners.
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Disagree, obviously he's not in the position he was yesterday but it was unrealistic to expect KC not to sign another back and this is far from horrible.
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How can you disagree? How many TDs did Thomas Jones "steal" from Charles in 2010? Hillis is 3x the back TJ is. Hillis can also catch really well so their playbook is wide open with him in at the goal line. Plus Charles is coming off a knee injury so you think the Chiefs are going to let him carry it at the goal line? Yes, it was clear that KC was going to bring in another back but Hillis is the best all around back they could have brought in (compared to BGE, Tolbert or Bush).
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Well, he was in 2010 anyway. 3.6 yards/carry in 2011.
 
Hillis is going to steal everything from Charles inside the 5. The rest of his role? Depends if there's an attitude change.

 
I can't believe he went that cheap. After reflecting on the contracts guys like Chester Taylor and some other situation backs got it's really shocking. He must have wanted to get the F out of Cleveland.

 
Charles

Hillis

McCluster

Bowe

Baldwin

Breaston

Moeaki

if Cassel can stay helathy this has some potential....although I would have rather seen Orton stay and actually compete with Cassel.....KC has to bring in some type of bckup for Cassel....the Tyler Palko/Ricki Stanzi thing ain't gonna cut it if he gets dinged.....

Baldwin taking the next step would be nice and would like to see them bring in another WR....maybe Santana Moss or something if he gets cut....

 
'griff321 said:
I can't believe he went that cheap. After reflecting on the contracts guys like Chester Taylor and some other situation backs got it's really shocking. He must have wanted to get the F out of Cleveland.
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Browns are spinning it to say they wanted him out (never made him an offer), but my guess is it's somewhere in between.
 
of the backs available in free agency Hillis is the best option for KC....I can envision them both lined up in the same backfield...Hillis has some experience as a FB....and providing some nice dump off matchup problems for LB's.....fake a pitch to Charles....and hit Hillis on the other side in open space...etc

much better option than Jacobs or somebody......

in addition, I didn't see anyway that by the time the draft rolls around that Richardson falls to the 11th pick.....

it will be a long day for defenses trying to tackle these two guys all day.....

 
if Manning stays out of Denver....the AFC west looks wide open

Den offense won't scare anybody....VJax and Tolbert are gone....Bush is out in OAk and McFad can't stay healthy.....

 
'griff321 said:
I can't believe he went that cheap. After reflecting on the contracts guys like Chester Taylor and some other situation backs got it's really shocking. He must have wanted to get the F out of Cleveland.
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I think it also points to the tepid value of FA RBs. Bush seems to have a shot at Cincy, but there's been nary a peep about Tolbert, Jacobs and even Hillis before he went off to KC.
 
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'zamboni said:
'griff321 said:
I can't believe he went that cheap. After reflecting on the contracts guys like Chester Taylor and some other situation backs got it's really shocking. He must have wanted to get the F out of Cleveland.
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I think it also points to the tepid value of FA RBs. Bush seems to have a shot at Cincy, but there's been nary a peep about Tolbert, Jacobs and even Hillis before he went off to KC.
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Tolbert (to me at least) is a tremendous value, I'm a little surprised he's still floating out there.
 
Does this render McCluster valueless in dynasty or is he worth a stash (in leagues that have fairly deep rosters and/or give points for return yardage)?

 
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'Benchwarmers said:
Charles 1,600-1,800 total yards (rushing/receiving) 4 TD'sHillis 1,100-1,300 total yards (rushing/receiving) 16 TD'sI think the Chiefs will run 60%-65% of the time in 20012. I think Hillis could score alot of TD's with the Chiefs. Charles won't score many rushing TD's if any.
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Ah, the crisp smell of offseason optimism. I am no KC fan, but if I was I'd be all about this signing as I am a Hillis fan. I think he'll fit in well there, but it's hard to know with a new regime and all. I doubt we see 16 TDs from him, though. One of those guys might put up those numbers, but we won't see both of those guys putting up those numbers. In 2010 when they absolutely exploded (518 RB carries and 95 rec), they put up 3,365 combined (rush/rec) yards and 16 TDs from all their RBs. These two guys are not going to get 2,700-3,100 and 20 TDs by themselves.I think Multiple Scores claimed Hillis quit last year because his stats sucked, but get real. That whole offense tanked. You can't expect one guy to tear it up while the rest of the team tanks. That offense was putrid. And if you cite his injury and claim he was faking bc he is a quitter, I think there was proof that he had legitimate muscle damage. Hillis is a solid blue collar player that any team should want.
 
'FF Ninja said:
'Benchwarmers said:
Charles 1,600-1,800 total yards (rushing/receiving) 4 TD'sHillis 1,100-1,300 total yards (rushing/receiving) 16 TD'sI think the Chiefs will run 60%-65% of the time in 20012. I think Hillis could score alot of TD's with the Chiefs. Charles won't score many rushing TD's if any.
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Ah, the crisp smell of offseason optimism. I am no KC fan, but if I was I'd be all about this signing as I am a Hillis fan. I think he'll fit in well there, but it's hard to know with a new regime and all. I doubt we see 16 TDs from him, though. One of those guys might put up those numbers, but we won't see both of those guys putting up those numbers. In 2010 when they absolutely exploded (518 RB carries and 95 rec), they put up 3,365 combined (rush/rec) yards and 16 TDs from all their RBs. These two guys are not going to get 2,700-3,100 and 20 TDs by themselves.I think Multiple Scores claimed Hillis quit last year because his stats sucked, but get real. That whole offense tanked. You can't expect one guy to tear it up while the rest of the team tanks. That offense was putrid. And if you cite his injury and claim he was faking bc he is a quitter, I think there was proof that he had legitimate muscle damage. Hillis is a solid blue collar player that any team should want.
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I am not saying they will or won't put up those numbers but I think your logic that they won't is flawed. In 2010 the Jones/Charles combo had 2363 in rushing and 590 in receiving for a total of 2935. I can't see why the Hillis/Charles combo wouldn't be able to replicate those numbers (if Charles is 100%).If you want to argue their schedule won't allow for it or Charles injury, I can accept that. Charles probably won't be able to maintain the 6.4 YPC but I would think Hillis can certainly improve on TJ's 2010 3.7 (career is 4.2).
 
I, too, like the addition of Hillis in KC.

The idea of he and Charles in the same backfield, it would offer some serious options for the defense to contend with on short yardage situations.

 
'Captain Quinoa said:
MaryKayCabot Chiefs agree to terms with #browns rb Peyton Hillis, nflnetwork reports.
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ETA: 1 yr / $3 mil
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I am just commenting - but the Chiefs are also interested in Tolbert and just signed Boss. They are currently meeting with Eric Winston.Now I am just saying this from a football fan standpoint - but man, Tebow would be an amazing addition to this team if he becomes available. If you add Tebow at QB with a 3 headed monster at RB like Hillis, Charles, and Tolbert, 2 good TEs, and a threat like Bowe........backside protection like Winston.The running game and defense will keep the game close, and if the game is on the line in the 4th quarter, not many id prefer than Tebow.
 
'a_rackowski said:
'Captain Quinoa said:
MaryKayCabot Chiefs agree to terms with #browns rb Peyton Hillis, nflnetwork reports.
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ETA: 1 yr / $3 mil
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I am just commenting - but the Chiefs are also interested in Tolbert and just signed Boss. They are currently meeting with Eric Winston.Now I am just saying this from a football fan standpoint - but man, Tebow would be an amazing addition to this team if he becomes available. If you add Tebow at QB with a 3 headed monster at RB like Hillis, Charles, and Tolbert, 2 good TEs, and a threat like Bowe........backside protection like Winston.The running game and defense will keep the game close, and if the game is on the line in the 4th quarter, not many id prefer than Tebow.
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No. Stop it.
 
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