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[Bracie Smathers]

Very little draft content on this board so a timely mock to generate a little draft talk.

The entire first round with comments.

2012 mock draft, take one

Posted by Evan Silva on March 22, 2012, 1:35 PM EDT

AP

1. Colts: Robert Griffin III, quarterback, Baylor.

In an upset, the Colts opt for the most gifted quarterback in the draft.

2. Redskins: Andrew Luck, quarterback, Stanford.

Mike Shanahan settles for a still-elite prospect at the game’s premier position.

3. Vikings: Matt Kalil, tackle, USC.

Left tackle is Minnesota’s biggest need, and Kalil is a top-three talent.

4. Browns: Morris Claiborne, cornerback, LSU.

The Browns may reach for offense, but Claiborne is the best player left.

5. Bucs: Trent Richardson, running back, Alabama.

LeGarrette Blount alone won’t cut it for Greg Schiano’s run-first approach.

6. Rams: Justin Blackmon, wide receiver, Oklahoma State.

The new regime wants its top wideout to dominate after the catch.

7. Jaguars: Melvin Ingram, defensive end, South Carolina.

Able to play almost anywhere, Ingram is the draft’s most versatile rusher.

8. Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill, quarterback Texas A&M.

After whiffing on free agent QBs, the Fins reunite Tannehill with Mike Sherman.

9. Panthers: Quinton Coples, defensive end, North Carolina.

Coples teams with Charles Johnson to give Carolina a terrific end tandem.

10. Bills: Riley Reiff, tackle, Iowa.

The Bills were free agency “winners,” but they still need offensive line help.

11. Chiefs: Dontari Poe, defensive tackle, Memphis.

K.C. has been willing to reach for defensive linemen under G.M. Scott Pioli.

12. Seahawks: Whitney Mercilus, defensive end, Illinois.

Mercilus must clean up his technique, but he is a relentless outside rusher.

13. Cardinals: Cordy Glenn, tackle, Georgia.

Glenn fits the Russ Grimm mold at 346 pounds with an efficient game.

14. Cowboys: Courtney Upshaw, defensive end, Alabama.

He’s an upgrade on Anthony Spencer, whom Dallas reluctantly franchised.

15. Eagles: Stephon Gilmore, cornerback, South Carolina.

The Eagles are prepared to part with Asante Samuel; Gilmore replaces him.

16. Jets: Michael Floyd, receiver, Notre Dame.

Floyd improves the Jets’ odds of making good on their QB investments.

17. Bengals: Kendall Wright, receiver, Baylor.

Wright is the best player left, giving Cincy a dynamic bookend for A.J. Green.

18. Chargers: David DeCastro, guard, Stanford.

DeCastro would solidify a San Diego line that is promisingly getting younger.

19. Bears: Nick Perry, defensive end, USC.

Defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli will love Perry’s burst off the edge.

20. Titans: Fletcher Cox, defensive tackle, Mississippi State.

Cox is an impact interior rusher with room to improve as a run stuffer.

21. Bengals: Dre Kirkpatrick, cornerback, Alabama.

Some teams like Kirkpatrick at safety, but he’d be a press corner for the Bengals.

22. Browns: Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech.

Not just a workout freak, Hill is a natural hands catcher with elite separation skills.

23. Lions: Jonathan Martin, tackle, Stanford.

He would push Gosder Cherilus as a rookie and eventually succeed Jeff Backus.

24. Steelers: Mike Adams, tackle, Ohio State.

Adams is far from polished, but it’s no secret that the Steelers are high on him.

25. Broncos: Devon Still, defensive tackle, Penn State.

Denver declines to pass on the the most productive interior defensive lineman left.

26. Texans: Rueben Randle, receiver, LSU.

Houston didn’t address receiver in free agency, so it pounces on Randle’s potential.

27. Patriots: Michael Brockers, defensive tackle, LSU.

Brockers can’t rush the passer, but has a bright future as a five-technique, 3-4 end.

28. Packers: Peter Konz, center, Wisconsin.

The homegrown talent would be Scott Wells‘ successor in Green Bay.

29. Ravens: Coby Fleener, tight end, Stanford.

He’d be Baltimore’s version of Jimmy Graham as a playmaking “Joker” tight end.

30. 49ers: Doug Martin, running back, Boise State.

The Niners were forced to re-settle for Alex Smith, so they’ll keep running the ball.

31. Patriots: Brian Quick, receiver, Appalachian State.

Flying under the radar, Quick has tools to develop into a future No. 1 receiver.

32. Giants: Luke Kuechly, linebacker, Boston College.

Inside linebackers aren’t drafted early, but Kuechly fills a big need in New York.

 

[DoubleG]

Very little draft content on this board so a timely mock to generate a little draft talk.

The entire first round with comments.

2012 mock draft, take one

Posted by Evan Silva on March 22, 2012, 1:35 PM EDT

AP

1. Colts: Robert Griffin III, quarterback, Baylor.

In an upset, the Colts opt for the most gifted quarterback in the draft.

2. Redskins: Andrew Luck, quarterback, Stanford.

Mike Shanahan settles for a still-elite prospect at the game’s premier position.

3. Vikings: Matt Kalil, tackle, USC.

Left tackle is Minnesota’s biggest need, and Kalil is a top-three talent.

4. Browns: Morris Claiborne, cornerback, LSU.

The Browns may reach for offense, but Claiborne is the best player left.

5. Bucs: Trent Richardson, running back, Alabama.

LeGarrette Blount alone won’t cut it for Greg Schiano’s run-first approach.

6. Rams: Justin Blackmon, wide receiver, Oklahoma State.

The new regime wants its top wideout to dominate after the catch.

7. Jaguars: Melvin Ingram, defensive end, South Carolina.

Able to play almost anywhere, Ingram is the draft’s most versatile rusher.

8. Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill, quarterback Texas A&M.

After whiffing on free agent QBs, the Fins reunite Tannehill with Mike Sherman.

9. Panthers: Quinton Coples, defensive end, North Carolina.

Coples teams with Charles Johnson to give Carolina a terrific end tandem.

10. Bills: Riley Reiff, tackle, Iowa.

The Bills were free agency “winners,” but they still need offensive line help.

11. Chiefs: Dontari Poe, defensive tackle, Memphis.

K.C. has been willing to reach for defensive linemen under G.M. Scott Pioli.

12. Seahawks: Whitney Mercilus, defensive end, Illinois.

Mercilus must clean up his technique, but he is a relentless outside rusher.

13. Cardinals: Cordy Glenn, tackle, Georgia.

Glenn fits the Russ Grimm mold at 346 pounds with an efficient game.

14. Cowboys: Courtney Upshaw, defensive end, Alabama.

He’s an upgrade on Anthony Spencer, whom Dallas reluctantly franchised.

15. Eagles: Stephon Gilmore, cornerback, South Carolina.

The Eagles are prepared to part with Asante Samuel; Gilmore replaces him.

16. Jets: Michael Floyd, receiver, Notre Dame.

Floyd improves the Jets’ odds of making good on their QB investments.

17. Bengals: Kendall Wright, receiver, Baylor.

Wright is the best player left, giving Cincy a dynamic bookend for A.J. Green.

18. Chargers: David DeCastro, guard, Stanford.

DeCastro would solidify a San Diego line that is promisingly getting younger.

19. Bears: Nick Perry, defensive end, USC.

Defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli will love Perry’s burst off the edge.

20. Titans: Fletcher Cox, defensive tackle, Mississippi State.

Cox is an impact interior rusher with room to improve as a run stuffer.

21. Bengals: Dre Kirkpatrick, cornerback, Alabama.

Some teams like Kirkpatrick at safety, but he’d be a press corner for the Bengals.

22. Browns: Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech.

Not just a workout freak, Hill is a natural hands catcher with elite separation skills.

23. Lions: Jonathan Martin, tackle, Stanford.

He would push Gosder Cherilus as a rookie and eventually succeed Jeff Backus.

24. Steelers: Mike Adams, tackle, Ohio State.

Adams is far from polished, but it’s no secret that the Steelers are high on him.

25. Broncos: Devon Still, defensive tackle, Penn State.

Denver declines to pass on the the most productive interior defensive lineman left.

26. Texans: Rueben Randle, receiver, LSU.

Houston didn’t address receiver in free agency, so it pounces on Randle’s potential.

27. Patriots: Michael Brockers, defensive tackle, LSU.

Brockers can’t rush the passer, but has a bright future as a five-technique, 3-4 end.

28. Packers: Peter Konz, center, Wisconsin.

The homegrown talent would be Scott Wells‘ successor in Green Bay.

29. Ravens: Coby Fleener, tight end, Stanford.

He’d be Baltimore’s version of Jimmy Graham as a playmaking “Joker” tight end.

30. 49ers: Doug Martin, running back, Boise State.

The Niners were forced to re-settle for Alex Smith, so they’ll keep running the ball.

31. Patriots: Brian Quick, receiver, Appalachian State.

Flying under the radar, Quick has tools to develop into a future No. 1 receiver.

32. Giants: Luke Kuechly, linebacker, Boston College.

Inside linebackers aren’t drafted early, but Kuechly fills a big need in New York.

Rumor has it that lovie really likes Stephen Hill. I would not be shocked if the Bears snagged him at 19 instead of going line. I am not saying I agree with the thought process...

 

[RUSF18]

Well, it's easy to see they're looking for attention with this one.

 

[delusional]

As I do think the Eagles need depth at CB, as their current "younger guys" are nothing more then bodies, them taking a CB in the first? Don't think so. Especially with Kuechly, Wright, Floyd & Cox still on the board

 

[Yenrub]

32. Giants: Luke Kuechly, linebacker, Boston College.Inside linebackers aren’t drafted early, but Kuechly fills a big need in New York.

I really doubt that Kuechly drops this far but if he does I would be happy if the Giants took him

 

[delusional]

32. Giants: Luke Kuechly, linebacker, Boston College.Inside linebackers aren't drafted early, but Kuechly fills a big need in New York.

I really doubt that Kuechly drops this far but if he does I would be happy if the Giants took him

No way I see him getting past the Eagles. I don't care that they just signed a MLB, the other crop of LBers on the team are nothing more then ST / emergency fill ins.

 

[Hang 10]

I still think Luck goes #1 to Indy because it's Irsay's pick here. He cut Peyton because he already had his new QB picked out...and that guy is Andrew Luck.

But it is good to see that Griffin is finally getting his due. It isn't much of a stretch to think that RGIII is the best prospect in this draft.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

The latest iteration I've been working on has some similarities. I think Kuechly could go to the Broncos if he's there.

And with the Ryans signing, I don't think the Eagles take a LB.

 

[delusional]

The latest iteration I've been working on has some similarities. I think Kuechly could go to the Broncos if he's there.And with the Ryans signing, I don't think the Eagles take a LB.

I think they do. We all seen how BAD their LBs have been over the years & recently. Some of those bad LBers are on the team right now. You take Luke, teach him MLB & SAM & start him as the SAM. Luke Ryans Rolleedit: It sets LB for the next 5 years at least. Thats two positions you do not have to worry about.

 

[football fan]

Green Bay needs defensive help in the worst way, I doubt that they draft a center in the first round.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Other than trading for Ryans, when has Andy Reid ever shown a bit of interest in his linebackers? I would be shocked if they invested a 1st round pick in a LB. If they do, it's a sure sign that Reid isn't calling the shots anymore.

Oh, and as a Bills fan, I'd rather they take Martin than Reiff.

And yeah, Irsay views Luck as the next Manning. There is virtually zero chance they take RGIII.

 

[Kenny Powers]

Mike Adams

Kuechly #32

 

[Banemorth]

I really could see the Colts taking RGIII.

 

[EBF]

Griffin over Luck probably not gonna happen, nor do I agree that Griffin is more gifted. Mental talent > physical talent.

Rest of the mock looks okay besides Brian Quick in the first. Haven't seen that before...

 

[Hang 10]

Griffin over Luck probably not gonna happen, nor do I agree that Griffin is more gifted. Mental talent > physical talent. Rest of the mock looks okay besides Brian Quick in the first. Haven't seen that before...

Where do you get the idea that Luck is more mentally gifted than Griffin?

 

[Giantseasonticketholder]

Picking last is really cool!

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Other than trading for Ryans, when has Andy Reid ever shown a bit of interest in his linebackers? I would be shocked if they invested a 1st round pick in a LB. If they do, it's a sure sign that Reid isn't calling the shots anymore.Oh, and as a Bills fan, I'd rather they take Martin than Reiff.And yeah, Irsay views Luck as the next Manning. There is virtually zero chance they take RGIII.

All around. I have the Rams taking Reiff and the Bills taking Martin.

 

[Dexter Manley]

I still think Luck goes #1 to Indy because it's Irsay's pick here. He cut Peyton because he already had his new QB picked out...and that guy is Andrew Luck.But it is good to see that Griffin is finally getting his due. It isn't much of a stretch to think that RGIII is the best prospect in this draft.

And reportedly Irsay wasn't even at RG3's pro day yesterday. There were only a couple Colts scouts there.

 

[flapgreen]

This mock is really dumb.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This mock is really dumb.

No it's not. Except for Fletcher Cox being towards the bottom rather than near the top of it.

 

[RUSF18]

Griffin over Luck probably not gonna happen, nor do I agree that Griffin is more gifted. Mental talent > physical talent. Rest of the mock looks okay besides Brian Quick in the first. Haven't seen that before...

Where do you get the idea that Luck is more mentally gifted than Griffin?

I won't speak for him, but maybe saying mental talent isn't accurate as much as demonstrated mental ability...Luck in a pro style offense has exhibited the ability to diagnose defenses while dropping back, making progressions, etc. RGIII hasn't had as much experience with that. I doubt he is unable to, he's known to be a smart kid, but it will be a larger piece of his early maturing as a QB than Luck, IMO.

 

[pantherclub]

Thats a pretty horrible draft from top to bottom

Indy is taking luck, panthers will not be picking Couples and that is way too low for Dre Fitz. I also dont think that the Bucs will draft trent.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Green Bay needs defensive help in the worst way, I doubt that they draft a center in the first round.

I also doubt the Lions go OL when they need help in the backfield on defense.

 

[meyerj31]

These mocks are always ridiculous. Even the serious ones. They address need for each team and pick according to best player left that fits that need.

That's not at all how drafts work. Many teams draft with Best Player Available strategy. Take the Packers, for example. Seven years ago the last thing they "needed" was a QB. But Rodgers fell to 24th and the value was there, so they snatched him up.

Nothing more than talking points here but I would bet $ less than half the players on here go to where they are "projected."

 

[BigTex]

I still think Luck goes #1 to Indy because it's Irsay's pick here. He cut Peyton because he already had his new QB picked out...and that guy is Andrew Luck.But it is good to see that Griffin is finally getting his due. It isn't much of a stretch to think that RGIII is the best prospect in this draft.

And reportedly Irsay wasn't even at RG3's pro day yesterday. There were only a couple Colts scouts there.

I believe that Luck will go 1st but because Irsay wasn't there does not mean they didn't see enough on film and/or at the combine to draft a certain player. Unless, a player got injured and missed some/part of the season as well as the combine the player pro day is just that........setup for the player. A private workout is totally different.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

These mocks are always ridiculous. Even the serious ones. They address need for each team and pick according to best player left that fits that need.

That's not at all how drafts work. Many teams draft with Best Player Available strategy. Take the Packers, for example. Six years ago the last thing they "needed" was a QB. But Rodgers fell to 24th and the value was there, so they snatched him up.

Nothing more than talking points here but I would bet $ less than half the players on here go to where they are "projected."

Cool story, bro.Look, most everyone knows this. The point of mock drafts is to talk about how certain players might fit with certain teams and for homers to chime in with what the word on the street is surrounding their team...and to just have a little fun.

Why people expect "accuracy" in mock drafts is kind of strange to me.

 

[duaneok66]

why would the 49ers take Martin?? Hunter is a decent enough 2nd stirng back.

 

[pantherclub]

I still think Luck goes #1 to Indy because it's Irsay's pick here. He cut Peyton because he already had his new QB picked out...and that guy is Andrew Luck.But it is good to see that Griffin is finally getting his due. It isn't much of a stretch to think that RGIII is the best prospect in this draft.

And reportedly Irsay wasn't even at RG3's pro day yesterday. There were only a couple Colts scouts there.

I believe that Luck will go 1st but because Irsay wasn't there does not mean they didn't see enough on film and/or at the combine to draft a certain player. Unless, a player got injured and missed some/part of the season as well as the combine the player pro day is just that........setup for the player. A private workout is totally different.

While you are totally correct in a normal situation I dont think that mentality applies to the #1 pick when you have just cut your star QB. If Irsay was even remotely considering Griffen he would have been there. But your point stands regardless.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

why would the 49ers take Martin?? Hunter is a decent enough 2nd stirng back.

But that's all he is and Gore won't be around forever.

 

[Casting Couch]

This mock is really dumb.

No it's not. Except for Fletcher Cox being towards the bottom rather than near the top of it.

... and New England selecting a WR in the first round.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This mock is really dumb.

No it's not. Except for Fletcher Cox being towards the bottom rather than near the top of it.

... and New England selecting a WR in the first round.

No. That's not dumb either.

 

[Snotbubbles]

The latest iteration I've been working on has some similarities. I think Kuechly could go to the Broncos if he's there.And with the Ryans signing, I don't think the Eagles take a LB.

I think they do. We all seen how BAD their LBs have been over the years & recently. Some of those bad LBers are on the team right now. You take Luke, teach him MLB & SAM & start him as the SAM. Luke Ryans Rolleedit: It sets LB for the next 5 years at least. Thats two positions you do not have to worry about.

I think the Eagles will probably go DT (if Cox is there). Otherwise, I wouldn't be shocked to see them go CB.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I think the Eagles will probably go DT (if Cox is there). Otherwise, I wouldn't be shocked to see them go CB.

Yep. I've got them down for Brockers.

 

[Casting Couch]

This mock is really dumb.

No it's not. Except for Fletcher Cox being towards the bottom rather than near the top of it.

... and New England selecting a WR in the first round.

No. That's not dumb either.

It may not be dumb, but it's not happening, imo.

 

[Crippler]

Kuechley could drop. There is some nice LB's to be had in round 2. A guy like Mycheal Kendricks would help the Eagles also and he will be there for 2nd round pick. I doubt Hightower or Brown drop that far but a couple of more nice guys. Lavonte David or Bobby Wagner would upgrade also. So I could see them going another position other than Kuechley also.

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Green Bay needs defensive help in the worst way, I doubt that they draft a center in the first round.

I disagree completely. Do they need help on defense? Sure. But Thompson always drafts best player available. Konz not only fits the bill, but I also dont' believe they're willing to start the season with Evan Deitrich-Smith as their starting center.Subject to change of course, if they sign a free agent center.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

... and New England selecting a WR in the first round.

No. That's not dumb either.

It may not be dumb, but it's not happening, imo.

I don't know. They've clearly identified it as an area of need but the guys they're bringing in haven't really gotten it done the last couple years in the league. Plus, they just re-signed Branch for only one year.If I had to bet receiver vs. The Field, I'd take the Field, but a little reluctantly.

 

[smackdaddies]

Green Bay needs defensive help in the worst way, I doubt that they draft a center in the first round.

I am on record as stating it will be a DL or OLB, however should they not come up with a fa I could see Konz, although they may see if they can wait to the third and perhaps get Zietler

 

[Dr. Octopus]

2. Redskins: Andrew Luck, quarterback, Stanford.

Mike Shanahan settles for a still-elite prospect at the game’s premier position.

 

[flapgreen]

This mock is really dumb.

No it's not. Except for Fletcher Cox being towards the bottom rather than near the top of it.

I stand corrected.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

This mock is really dumb.

No it's not. Except for Fletcher Cox being towards the bottom rather than near the top of it.

I stand corrected.

Not necessarily. You simply stand contradicted.

 

[Casting Couch]

... and New England selecting a WR in the first round.

No. That's not dumb either.

It may not be dumb, but it's not happening, imo.

I don't know. They've clearly identified it as an area of need but the guys they're bringing in haven't really gotten it done the last couple years in the league. Plus, they just re-signed Branch for only one year.If I had to bet receiver vs. The Field, I'd take the Field, but a little reluctantly.

I'll set the odds at -210 Field / +190 WR.

 

[Sabertooth]

I think the Packers grab the linebacker.

 

[flapgreen]

This mock is really dumb.

No it's not. Except for Fletcher Cox being towards the bottom rather than near the top of it.

I stand corrected.

Not necessarily. You simply stand contradicted.

I stand incorrected.

 

[football fan]

Green Bay needs defensive help in the worst way, I doubt that they draft a center in the first round.

I disagree completely. Do they need help on defense? Sure. But Thompson always drafts best player available. Konz not only fits the bill, but I also dont' believe they're willing to start the season with Evan Deitrich-Smith as their starting center.Subject to change of course, if they sign a free agent center.

Konz is a nice player, no knock on him, but the packer fans will not be happy if they still have to time their pass rush with a calendar again this season.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

This mock is really dumb.

No it's not. Except for Fletcher Cox being towards the bottom rather than near the top of it.

I stand corrected.

Not necessarily. You simply stand contradicted.

I stand incorrected.

relax guys

 

[Man in the yellow hat]

Green Bay needs defensive help in the worst way, I doubt that they draft a center in the first round.

I disagree completely. Do they need help on defense? Sure. But Thompson always drafts best player available. Konz not only fits the bill, but I also dont' believe they're willing to start the season with Evan Deitrich-Smith as their starting center.Subject to change of course, if they sign a free agent center.

Konz is a nice player, no knock on him, but the packer fans will not be happy if they still have to time their pass rush with a calendar again this season.

Since when has Thompson let that impact his draft?

 

[Deamon]

This mock is really dumb.

No it's not. Except for Fletcher Cox being towards the bottom rather than near the top of it.

And Kuechly going 32nd. And Luck going 2nd. And the Eagles taking a CB (takes assantes spot? we have 2 starting cbs). Few massive mistakes here... expected better.

 

[football fan]

Green Bay needs defensive help in the worst way, I doubt that they draft a center in the first round.

I disagree completely. Do they need help on defense? Sure. But Thompson always drafts best player available. Konz not only fits the bill, but I also dont' believe they're willing to start the season with Evan Deitrich-Smith as their starting center.Subject to change of course, if they sign a free agent center.

Konz is a nice player, no knock on him, but the packer fans will not be happy if they still have to time their pass rush with a calendar again this season.

Since when has Thompson let that impact his draft?

Thompson is a Ron Wolf discipline, and they do draft for need at times, what do you call drafting Derrick Sherrod last year? Green Bay really needed an offensive tackle last year. Don't you remember the horrible memory of Ron Wolf picking Terrell Buckley with an early first round pick?What do you call Thompson trading for and drafting Clay Matthews? Image right now, how Green Bay's pass rush would be without Clay Matthews.Green Bay has horrible needs on defense, their defensive line is aging very quickly, they lack a pass rush, and their secondary needs improvement.Thompson usually drafts best player available, but need definitely influences his draft picks when needed.

 

[imagroid]

Green Bay needs defensive help in the worst way, I doubt that they draft a center in the first round.

I am on record as stating it will be a DL or OLB, however should they not come up with a fa I could see Konz, although they may see if they can wait to the third and perhaps get Zietler