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[fridayfrenzy]

DeCastro won't last to #18

 

[footballnerd]

why would the 49ers take Martin?? Hunter is a decent enough 2nd stirng back.

But that's all he is and Gore won't be around forever.

Ginn might leave for a team he can get PT at WR, think we going WR/PR in the 1st if so, but prob will pick up an RB in later rounds

 

[cobalt_27]

DeCastro won't last to #18

If he's available to the Cowboys at 14 and they pass on him, I'll sell my season tix and disown them. That would be completely inexcusable given the group of Larry, Curly, and Mo they have on the interior O-Line.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Very little draft content on this board so a timely mock to generate a little draft talk.

The entire first round with comments.

2012 mock draft, take one

Posted by Evan Silva on March 22, 2012, 1:35 PM EDT

AP

1. Colts: Robert Griffin III, quarterback, Baylor.

In an upset, the Colts opt for the most gifted quarterback in the draft.

2. Redskins: Andrew Luck, quarterback, Stanford.

Mike Shanahan settles for a still-elite prospect at the game’s premier position.

3. Vikings: Matt Kalil, tackle, USC.

Left tackle is Minnesota’s biggest need, and Kalil is a top-three talent.

4. Browns: Morris Claiborne, cornerback, LSU.

The Browns may reach for offense, but Claiborne is the best player left.

5. Bucs: Trent Richardson, running back, Alabama.

LeGarrette Blount alone won’t cut it for Greg Schiano’s run-first approach.

6. Rams: Justin Blackmon, wide receiver, Oklahoma State.

The new regime wants its top wideout to dominate after the catch.

7. Jaguars: Melvin Ingram, defensive end, South Carolina.

Able to play almost anywhere, Ingram is the draft’s most versatile rusher.

8. Dolphins: Ryan Tannehill, quarterback Texas A&M.

After whiffing on free agent QBs, the Fins reunite Tannehill with Mike Sherman.

9. Panthers: Quinton Coples, defensive end, North Carolina.

Coples teams with Charles Johnson to give Carolina a terrific end tandem.

10. Bills: Riley Reiff, tackle, Iowa.

The Bills were free agency “winners,” but they still need offensive line help.

11. Chiefs: Dontari Poe, defensive tackle, Memphis.

K.C. has been willing to reach for defensive linemen under G.M. Scott Pioli.

12. Seahawks: Whitney Mercilus, defensive end, Illinois.

Mercilus must clean up his technique, but he is a relentless outside rusher.

13. Cardinals: Cordy Glenn, tackle, Georgia.

Glenn fits the Russ Grimm mold at 346 pounds with an efficient game.

14. Cowboys: Courtney Upshaw, defensive end, Alabama.

He’s an upgrade on Anthony Spencer, whom Dallas reluctantly franchised.

15. Eagles: Stephon Gilmore, cornerback, South Carolina.

The Eagles are prepared to part with Asante Samuel; Gilmore replaces him.

16. Jets: Michael Floyd, receiver, Notre Dame.

Floyd improves the Jets’ odds of making good on their QB investments.

17. Bengals: Kendall Wright, receiver, Baylor.

Wright is the best player left, giving Cincy a dynamic bookend for A.J. Green.

18. Chargers: David DeCastro, guard, Stanford.

DeCastro would solidify a San Diego line that is promisingly getting younger.

19. Bears: Nick Perry, defensive end, USC.

Defensive coordinator Rod Marinelli will love Perry’s burst off the edge.

20. Titans: Fletcher Cox, defensive tackle, Mississippi State.

Cox is an impact interior rusher with room to improve as a run stuffer.

21. Bengals: Dre Kirkpatrick, cornerback, Alabama.

Some teams like Kirkpatrick at safety, but he’d be a press corner for the Bengals.

22. Browns: Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech.

Not just a workout freak, Hill is a natural hands catcher with elite separation skills.

23. Lions: Jonathan Martin, tackle, Stanford.

He would push Gosder Cherilus as a rookie and eventually succeed Jeff Backus.

24. Steelers: Mike Adams, tackle, Ohio State.

Adams is far from polished, but it’s no secret that the Steelers are high on him.

25. Broncos: Devon Still, defensive tackle, Penn State.

Denver declines to pass on the the most productive interior defensive lineman left.

26. Texans: Rueben Randle, receiver, LSU.

Houston didn’t address receiver in free agency, so it pounces on Randle’s potential.

27. Patriots: Michael Brockers, defensive tackle, LSU.

Brockers can’t rush the passer, but has a bright future as a five-technique, 3-4 end.

28. Packers: Peter Konz, center, Wisconsin.

The homegrown talent would be Scott Wells‘ successor in Green Bay.

29. Ravens: Coby Fleener, tight end, Stanford.

He’d be Baltimore’s version of Jimmy Graham as a playmaking “Joker” tight end.

30. 49ers: Doug Martin, running back, Boise State.

The Niners were forced to re-settle for Alex Smith, so they’ll keep running the ball.

31. Patriots: Brian Quick, receiver, Appalachian State.

Flying under the radar, Quick has tools to develop into a future No. 1 receiver.

32. Giants: Luke Kuechly, linebacker, Boston College.

Inside linebackers aren’t drafted early, but Kuechly fills a big need in New York.

Chiming in on what they have for the Browns picks:4. Browns: Morris Claiborne, cornerback, LSU.

The Browns may reach for offense, but Claiborne is the best player left.

I like Mo. He reminds me of Champ Bailey.

I think that their are only a handful of widely considered blue-chip players from this draft and Morris Claiborne is one of those blue-chippers.

A pairing of CB Joe Haden AND CB Morris Claiborne? That could be something with just a bit more pass rush.

With the Browns other first-round draft pick gotten from Atlanta in last year's Julio Jones trade they have Cleveland taking:

22. Browns: Stephen Hill, Georgia Tech.

Not just a workout freak, Hill is a natural hands catcher with elite separation skills.

I'm far less confident in Hill being a sure-thing.

I would favor taking a much more sure ORT prospect and in their scenario OT Jonathan Martin would go with the very next pick.

The Browns recently cut two veterans on their O-Line, ORT Tony Pashos and OG Eric Steinbeck. Their is a huge hole at ORT so I think Martin projects well on the strong side to stack the edges of the Browns O-Line.

Cleveland has many holes but getting sure-fire solid projected young starters like Mo Claiborne and Jo Martin could help to lay a strong foundation.

The Browns could take a shot at a WR in the second round so I like PFT's project for the Browns.

 

[cstu]

This mock is really dumb.

No it's not. Except for Fletcher Cox being towards the bottom rather than near the top of it.

If Cox is there the Chargers had better not pass on him for an OG.

 

[Donnybrook]

I still think Luck goes #1 to Indy because it's Irsay's pick here. He cut Peyton because he already had his new QB picked out...and that guy is Andrew Luck.

But it is good to see that Griffin is finally getting his due. It isn't much of a stretch to think that RGIII is the best prospect in this draft.

And reportedly Irsay wasn't even at RG3's pro day yesterday. There were only a couple Colts scouts there.

Colts coach and GM were not at Andrew Luck's pro day. http://www.kffl.com/...l#ixzz1ptRHcfuT

 

[cstu]

Chiming in on what they have for the Browns picks:

4. Browns: Morris Claiborne, cornerback, LSU.

The Browns may reach for offense, but Claiborne is the best player left.

I like Mo. He reminds me of Champ Bailey.

I think that their are only a handful of widely considered blue-chip players from this draft and Morris Claiborne is one of those blue-chippers.

A pairing of CB Joe Haden AND CB Morris Claiborne? That could be something with just a bit more pass rush.

Add in Sheldon Brown at safety that's a pretty sick pass D.

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Chiming in on what they have for the Browns picks:

4. Browns: Morris Claiborne, cornerback, LSU.

The Browns may reach for offense, but Claiborne is the best player left.

I like Mo. He reminds me of Champ Bailey.

I think that their are only a handful of widely considered blue-chip players from this draft and Morris Claiborne is one of those blue-chippers.

A pairing of CB Joe Haden AND CB Morris Claiborne? That could be something with just a bit more pass rush.

Add in Sheldon Brown at safety that's a pretty sick pass D.

I think Shel is what? Thirty-two years old? He was slipping badly last year out on the corner. Rookie CB Buster Skrine looked pretty good considering he was a late pick and used primarily on special teams.

The plan is to move Sheldon Brown to FS and at this time it looks like Skrine would get his chance.

I like Skrine but he's got a thin frame. Claiborne reminds me soo much of Champ Bailey with his long arms and silky smooth abilty to turn his body that if he is the pick then I can see Skrine being a solid nickel back to help off-set any bunched WR sets that the defense will face.

 

[pantherclub]

I still think Luck goes #1 to Indy because it's Irsay's pick here. He cut Peyton because he already had his new QB picked out...and that guy is Andrew Luck.

But it is good to see that Griffin is finally getting his due. It isn't much of a stretch to think that RGIII is the best prospect in this draft.

And reportedly Irsay wasn't even at RG3's pro day yesterday. There were only a couple Colts scouts there.

Colts coach and GM were not at Andrew Luck's pro day. http://www.kffl.com/...l#ixzz1ptRHcfuT

because they are taking him regardless

 

[nickdib]

why would the 49ers take Martin?? Hunter is a decent enough 2nd stirng back.

But that's all he is and Gore won't be around forever.

Ginn might leave for a team he can get PT at WR, think we going WR/PR in the 1st if so, but prob will pick up an RB in later rounds

Why do you think hunter is only a second string back at best? He looked pretty good as a rookie

 

[Gandalf]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

 

[The Captain]

As I do think the Eagles need depth at CB, as their current "younger guys" are nothing more then bodies, them taking a CB in the first? Don't think so. Especially with Kuechly, Wright, Floyd & Cox still on the board

The Eagles are looking for WR with Jackson and Maclin already there? Just curious. Is that the buzz in Philly?

 

[Boston]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

With Lloyd, Gonzalez and Stallworth added and Branch re-signed I really don't see the need to use a #1 on a WR when the defense needs legit help...they could use a young wideout but this isn't the year to use a high pick on one...

 

[Kenny Powers]

I think the Packers grab the linebacker.

Which one? The white one that will be long gone by GB's pick?

 

[Hastur]

DeCastro won't last to #18

If he's available to the Cowboys at 14 and they pass on him, I'll sell my season tix and disown them. That would be completely inexcusable given the group of Larry, Curly, and Mo they have on the interior O-Line.

I'm almost positive the boys will grab an OL no matter who is there at the 14 spot. I'll even go out on the ledge and say there is a 25% they will move up to grab one.

 

[Shrugs]

Griffin over Luck probably not gonna happen, nor do I agree that Griffin is more gifted. Mental talent > physical talent. Rest of the mock looks okay besides Brian Quick in the first. Haven't seen that before...

Where do you get the idea that Luck is more mentally gifted than Griffin?

Stanford vs Baylor?

 

[BigSteelThrill]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

They will trade down for a couple of picks, obviously. A lesser one this year and an additional one next year.

 

[Sabertooth]

I think the Packers grab the linebacker.

Which one? The white one that will be long gone by GB's pick?

I was going by this mock. So yes and no.

 

[petenice15]

Griffin over Luck probably not gonna happen, nor do I agree that Griffin is more gifted. Mental talent > physical talent. Rest of the mock looks okay besides Brian Quick in the first. Haven't seen that before...

Where do you get the idea that Luck is more mentally gifted than Griffin?

Stanford vs Baylor?

Not that the Wonderlic is the end all be all, but I'm sure it will be a good gauge of this as well.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Last year every mock that didn't have Amukamara in the top 10 was considered "stupid". Then he fell to around 20 on draft day.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

Where's the Lions Pick. I looked thru the top 10 picks and didn't see them.

 

[Donnybrook]

As a Vikngs fan, I wouldn't mind seeing other teams grab suspect wide receivers and letting players like Mark Barron and Janoris Jenkins fall to the second round.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

With Lloyd, Gonzalez and Stallworth added and Branch re-signed I really don't see the need to use a #1 on a WR when the defense needs legit help...they could use a young wideout but this isn't the year to use a high pick on one...

Gonzalez and Stallworth might not make the team. They've barely contributed the last two seasons (Stallworth more than Gonzalez) and if there's any year they were going to use a high pick on a WR this might be it since so many look ready to step in and play right away. A little bit tougher to do in the Pats' system, but still, the addition of two bodies doesn't preclude adding better talent.

 

[Run It Up]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

Right there with you.Welker, Lloyd, Branch, Ocho, Edelman, Slater, (Stalworth/Gonzalez)Theres no room. Need defensive help EVERYWHERE.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

Right there with you.Welker, Lloyd, Branch, Ocho, Edelman, Slater, (Stalworth/Gonzalez)Theres no room. Need defensive help EVERYWHERE.

Edelman is a special teamer, Ocho won't be on the team. Branch signed a one year deal.It's not like the position knocks it out of the park.

 

[mdlane]

why would the 49ers take Martin?? Hunter is a decent enough 2nd stirng back.

But that's all he is and Gore won't be around forever.

Ginn might leave for a team he can get PT at WR, think we going WR/PR in the 1st if so, but prob will pick up an RB in later rounds

Why do you think hunter is only a second string back at best? He looked pretty good as a rookie

The chances of the Niners taking a RB at 30 are less than zero - i.e., the same chance that Richardson falls to 30.

 

[saintfool]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

Right there with you.Welker, Lloyd, Branch, Ocho, Edelman, Slater, (Stalworth/Gonzalez)Theres no room. Need defensive help EVERYWHERE.

Edelman is a special teamer, Ocho won't be on the team. Branch signed a one year deal.It's not like the position knocks it out of the park.

the passing game will be fine with gronk and hernandez though.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

Right there with you.Welker, Lloyd, Branch, Ocho, Edelman, Slater, (Stalworth/Gonzalez)Theres no room. Need defensive help EVERYWHERE.

Edelman is a special teamer, Ocho won't be on the team. Branch signed a one year deal.It's not like the position knocks it out of the park.

the passing game will be fine with gronk and hernandez though.

Yes. That's a more valid reason.

 

[Donnybrook]

A more valid reason would be that it is doubtful whether Quick is worth a 3rd round pick let alone a 1st.

 

[RUSF18]

Last year every mock that didn't have Amukamara in the top 10 was considered "stupid". Then he fell to around 20 on draft day.

It's a real shame we're not going to get Rich Gosselin's "day of" mock this year.

 

[Road Warriors]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

Right there with you.Welker, Lloyd, Branch, Ocho, Edelman, Slater, (Stalworth/Gonzalez)

Theres no room. Need defensive help EVERYWHERE.

Ocho won't be back. If Edelman/Slater are significant contributors catching passes, things have gone terribly wrong, but they'll be on the squad for special teams or emergency DB duties. Figure 3 TE ( Gron, Hernandez & Fells ) and likely only one of Stallworth/Gonzalez makes the team. If he's healthy, I'd put money on Gonzo.With some needs on OL ( age ) and D ( better talent ), I'd be very surprised to see NE go WR with a 1st.

To be fair, I'd also be very surprised to see NE use both of these picks. Wouldn't be draft day without Belichick trading back "for the future"

 

[flapgreen]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

Right there with you.Welker, Lloyd, Branch, Ocho, Edelman, Slater, (Stalworth/Gonzalez)Theres no room. Need defensive help EVERYWHERE.

Edelman is a special teamer, Ocho won't be on the team. Branch signed a one year deal.It's not like the position knocks it out of the park.

the passing game will be fine with gronk and hernandez though.

Yes. That's a more valid reason.

Knows things.

 

[Run It Up]

I will throw up if the pats use a 1st pick on quick.

Right there with you.Welker, Lloyd, Branch, Ocho, Edelman, Slater, (Stalworth/Gonzalez)Theres no room. Need defensive help EVERYWHERE.

Edelman is a special teamer, Ocho won't be on the team. Branch signed a one year deal.It's not like the position knocks it out of the park.

Edelman is a utility player, hes not a bad WR. He has decent speed, can play out of the slot or backfield. Can play DB and Gunner/Returner. I would put him ahead of slater in the receiving pecking order.And Ocho isnt going anywhere, almost gauranteed, Brady and BB love him.Its besides the point though, they are gonna try and lock up gronk and hernandez, worry about WRs later, fix the defense now.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Its besides the point though, they are gonna try and lock up gronk and hernandez, worry about WRs later, fix the defense now.

Eh. You're probably right. But with a Patriots draft, you never can tell and it wouldn't be a surprise or reason to puke if they went WR.I'm thinking prospects like corners Stephon Gilmore/Josh Robinson/Janoris Jenkins or front seven guys like Devon Still, Nick Perry, Dont'a Hightower, Jerel Worthy are the more likely names.

 

[football fan]

Just read on NFL Network, Packers and Jeff Saturday agree to terms. No terms of contract were disclosed.

See Breaking News at top.

http://www.nfl.com/

 

[Bracie Smathers]

Chiming in on what they have for the Browns picks:

4. Browns: Morris Claiborne, cornerback, LSU.

The Browns may reach for offense, but Claiborne is the best player left.

I like Mo. He reminds me of Champ Bailey.

I think that their are only a handful of widely considered blue-chip players from this draft and Morris Claiborne is one of those blue-chippers.

A pairing of CB Joe Haden AND CB Morris Claiborne? That could be something with just a bit more pass rush.

Add in Sheldon Brown at safety that's a pretty sick pass D.

I think Shel is what? Thirty-two years old? He was slipping badly last year out on the corner. Rookie CB Buster Skrine looked pretty good considering he was a late pick and used primarily on special teams.

The plan is to move Sheldon Brown to FS and at this time it looks like Skrine would get his chance.

I like Skrine but he's got a thin frame. Claiborne reminds me soo much of Champ Bailey with his long arms and silky smooth abilty to turn his body that if he is the pick then I can see Skrine being a solid nickel back to help off-set any bunched WR sets that the defense will face.

Claiborne blazed his forty on his pro-day.From today March 23, 2012 6:20 am

Good News And Bad News From Claibornes Pro Day

Posted by Mike Wobschall on March 23, 2012 6:20 am

For those of you who would prefer the Vikings take CB Morris Claiborne with their 1st-round pick in next months draft, there is good news and bad news.

Well give you the good news first.

Claiborne participated in LSUs pro day on Thursday and registered an impressive time in the 40-yard dash, covering the distance in 4.39 seconds, a vast improvement from his 4.50 time at the Combine in February.

The bad news, though, is that Jim Kleinpeter of nola.com reports Claiborne disclosed after his workout that he will undergo surgery to repair a torn ligament in his left wrist on Friday. Claiborne injured the wrist in a regular season game against Alabama, but was able to play through the injury and the pain for the remainder of the Tigers season.

My guess is the injury isnt serious enough to impact Claibornes draft stock, especially with the mention of his pending surgery not made until midway through Kleinpeters piece

Wow!This kid looks really good.

 

[Xue]

Griffin over Luck probably not gonna happen, nor do I agree that Griffin is more gifted. Mental talent > physical talent. Rest of the mock looks okay besides Brian Quick in the first. Haven't seen that before...

It's not so much that Brian Quick is a 1st round talent, but more because the Patriots like Quick and they'd have to take him there if they want him. At least that's what the Patriots draftniks that I follow have been hearing. Josh Norris and Evan Silva have inside word as well.