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http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-profoo...,0,646379.story

We'll see if Florio can maintain his on-the-edge style....

Profootballtalk.com and NBC to form partnership

The website -- visited regularly by NFL fans, media and league insiders -- has been a small operation with a big-time influence. By Sam Farmer

June 15, 2009 In launching his homegrown website eight years ago, Mike Florio, a West Virginia labor lawyer and sharp-witted football fan, created a way to give his two cents on the NFL.

Now, NBC is going to pay him a lot more than that.

The network is expected to announce today that it has formed a wide-ranging partnership with Florio's Profootballtalk.com -- known as PFT to its legions of readers -- with plans to make it a permanent feature at the top of the NBC Sports site. Terms of the deal have not been announced.

The marriage of an NFL broadcast partner and PFT is an interesting one, because Florio's site has anything but a starched, corporate feel. It keeps, for instance, a running tally of players who have been arrested.

NBC recognizes that unvarnished, unflinching approach as PFT's appeal.

"The sites that are most successful are the ones that have the most unique voices, and I think Mike definitely has one of the most unique voices," said **** Ebersol, chairman of NBC Sports and Olympics. "I can't think of another pro football website that has the unique following in such large numbers that Mike does. I'd be a fool if I tried to change that."

Florio's isn't simply a case of a couch potato finding a fortune between the cushions. He has worked hard for this, and PFT has emerged in recent years as a popular resource for fans, media and NFL insiders alike. Florio and his small group of freelance writers collect and rewrite stories from newspapers and websites, but also break their own news, chase down rumors and crack wise on the nation's most popular sports league.

"We look at it as a high-impact media platform," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said. "It's phenomenal what he created, and it's very clear that most people in the business look at it. It has impact."

According to Alexa.com, which tracks Internet traffic patterns, PFT's online audience outnumbers that of most newspapers and sports sites. In March, when interest in the site spiked with the start of free agency, PFT attracted 1.7 million unique visitors and 25 million page views.

Al Michaels, play-by-play man for NBC's "Sunday Night Football," said he checks the site almost daily, and sometimes several times a day.

"Over the past couple of years, he's been as wired into the NFL as anybody," Michaels said. "It's not that he gets every single thing right, but he's clearly got a really good pipeline for information."

Florio will still own the website but has sold exclusive rights to its content to NBC.

With the mind of a lawyer and the conversational, biting tone of the wiseacre at the next bar stool, Florio updates his site a dozen or more times a day, analyzing everything from what minor transactions might portend, to emerging trends, to the latest player hauled off in handcuffs.

"I try to create the place where I would want to spend my time if I was on the other side of the screen," said Florio, 44. "Where would I want to get my information about the NFL? What stories would be interesting to me and how would I want it to be presented? Would I want it to be just a cold, dry recitation of the facts, or would I want it to be something that makes me think, that makes me upset, that stirs my opinions and makes me laugh from time to time?"

The stories aren't always on the mark. The site's most memorable gaffe came Jan. 25, 2007, when, after receiving a flurry of tips from e-mailers, Florio rushed to post a story headlined: "Is Terry Bradshaw Dead?"

The rumor, obviously erroneous, was first reported as that by a couple of TV stations in Shreveport, La., but briefly gained major momentum when PFT reported it. (As it turned out, someone misheard a radio report that there had been a fatal car accident on the Terry Bradshaw Passway in Shreveport.) Minutes later, after getting the story straight, Florio replaced that headline with: "Terry Is Fine," but by that time, critics of his site had more ammunition than they might ever need.

"That mistake," Florio jokes, "will go on my tombstone."

Florio does most of his writing on his laptop from his den in tiny Bridgeport, W.Va., a town of 7,800 about a 90-minute drive south of Pittsburgh. His 36-inch TV is on throughout the day, tuned to either something football-related, news or "Seinfeld" reruns (he quotes that sitcom with almost religious reverence), and the phone calls and e-mails pour in at a staggering rate.

When the rest of the sports world was paying relatively little heed to the Michael Vick dogfighting accusations, Florio was three steps ahead, talking about how significant the fallout could be. When a group of players who had tested positive for a steroids masking agent were protesting their suspensions, Florio cut through the legalese to explain it in layman's terms.

"I've had cases that have dealt with those very issues," he said. "So at those times, having a law background has been very helpful. . . . [but] I used to feel horribly inadequate because I had zero journalism training."

After earning a degree in engineering from Carnegie Mellon, Florio went to law school and worked at two firms before hanging his own shingle. Along the way, he wrote a football-based novel that he had trouble getting anyone to publish. Eventually, he wound up writing NFL stories and observations for various websites, usually for free. That led to him forming PFT in 2001, and since 2007 he has worked with business partner Larry Mazza, all the while continuing to practice law.

Almost a decade later, he has an arrangement with NBC substantial enough that he is giving up his legal practice for good, a decision he admits "has been the source of a lot of worrying and fretting by me because I love practicing law."

Florio's new fear is that writing for his site, which never felt like actual work to him before, might start feeling that way. Then again, he quipped, maybe that's how it should be.

"I come from the land of coal mining and steel mills," he said. "You're supposed to hate your job."

 
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Garbage. Let's hope they put it out to pasture.
This.Florio is wrong far more than he is right.
I don't disagree with you or Jason. I'm a semi fan/hater type I guess. I "never" visit the site.NBC may be just what Florio needs.I don't disagree with two major points in the article: he has a great pipeline to NFL sources and he has an extremely impressive following. What I gripe about is the rumors and seeming to generate them with some random program just for kicks when it's a slow period. It creates a "what can I believe" reaction.I don't think any major media outlet puts up with that as is. I would imagine to some degree they're asking him some Qs about his rumors sources and they'll be discussed behind closed doors.That Terry Bradshaw thing mentioned can't happen at NBC. It flat out can't.In the end, Florio might have sold his company for some credibility and this might be a big big start for him.
 
The thing about PFT is that they used to go out on the rumor limb alot more in years past. But as they got noticed, I've found that they re-purpose alot of stories that are already being run locally.

It's still a site I frequent, but at the same time...it's clear that PFT has tightened their operation up as to not be wrong too often.

 
Florio has ALWAYS been a tool of the NFL ... don't let him fool you w/ his "it's me against the rest of the league" mantra.

 
They have thrown more crap against the wall over the years to see what sticks. Over time you will hit with amount of stuff they have thrown out there. Very over rated site when it comes to new in the NFL. I go to the site to see the Pics of the day when it comes to writing stories for the local league I'm in. Otherwise no value.

 
Nobody dislikes Florio's style, bad jokes, pointless pot shots and inane Seinfeld references more than I do.

But that doesn't mean his site doesn't have value. He breaks stories, and he has sources. If you look at the stories he breaks, it is pretty apparent his main sources are agents. This leads to them using him for their own reasons occasionally, but it's tough find a site that gets news out as quick as PFT does. A lot of his stuff is gleaned from beat writers in other cities, but I don't feel like following 32+ beat writers. Do you?

I have discovered the best way to use PFT: I set up the RSS feed for my Google Reader, so I don't go to the site at all, I can just skim the headlines, and avoid most of the Seinfeld YouTube clips and lame jokes.

 
I had that site bookmarked for awhile, then deleted when I tired of all the crap thrown at the wall. The football "gossip" and soap opera stuff that was all off field soured me.

 
Chicago Hooligan said:
Giving up a law practice to run a gossip site: probably not a Good Life Decision.
You say this after he just presumably made a ton of cash from NBC? :thumbup: We all could be so lucky to make such a bad life decision. :thumbup:
 
Chicago Hooligan said:
Giving up a law practice to run a gossip site: probably not a Good Life Decision.
No way he gave up his law practice unless NBC set him up for life with this partnership. Probably a fantastic life decision.
 
More info on the editorial aspect of this deal from Mr Florio himself:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/06/15/...ft-nbc-details/



More PFT-NBC Details

Posted by Mike Florio on June 15, 2009, 7:29 a.m. EDT

For those of you who were burning couches in the wake of the Lakers' umpteenth NBA title, you might not yet realize that PFT and NBC officially will be announcing a wide-ranging partnership on Monday.

Our Sunday night item regarding the development is right here.

After having an opportunity to digest your comments, e-mails, and tweets, I need to mention a few details that weren't included in last night's introductory blurb.

First, I have retained full editorial control over the site.

In my initial meeting in Tampa with Rick Cordella, the General Manager of NBC Sports Digital, we agreed that any arrangement between PFT and NBC would reserve to me the power to decide what to write, when to write it, and how to write it — with not a single layer of NBC editorial input (other than someone who'll clean up typos and the occasional Emmittism).

It was clear when we met last Monday with **** Ebersol at 30 Rock that he wants it that way, too. (The bad news is that he has asked twice now for a copy of my off-off-Broadway play, La Cocina.)

Second, in an effort to make the site even better, I'll be giving up the practice of law. And that's a huge deal for me; I've been practicing for nearly 18 years, and while it's stressful and demanding and at times incredibly frustrating, I enjoy it.

Then again, I've been working toward that outcome — consciously or otherwise — ever since Sprint became our major sponsor in March 2006. That event, which likely was the most significant development in the growth of the site, allowed me to spend more time on the content, which resulted in more traffic, which triggered more revenue, which in turn allowed me to spend more time on the site.

The cycle has continued for three years, during which I've had periodic bouts of angst regarding whether to give up the law gig in an effort to see what would become of PFT if it were all I did.

So, in many ways, this new development is a huge relief, since I won't have to continue to think about whether to quit the exporting and focus on the importing.

Third, as Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times pointed out last night, and as Peter King of SI.com likely will reiterate in his MMQB column, NBC isn't "buying" the site. Larry Mazza and I still own PFT; the deal with NBC entails providing an exclusive license of our content.

We'll be sharing even more details on this new development in the coming days. And we know that, in the end, time will tell whether things change for the better, or the worse.

We're confident that it'll keep getting better — and we're confident that you'll agree.

Until then, thanks for your past support of the site. It has helped us get to this day. We hope you'll stick around as this crazy-### journey continues to unfold.

 
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Chicago Hooligan said:
Giving up a law practice to run a gossip site: probably not a Good Life Decision.
You say this after he just presumably made a ton of cash from NBC? :goodposting: We all could be so lucky to make such a bad life decision. :lol:
That doesn't look like a site that should have brought in any life changing amounts of money.
That's your opinion, but feel free to substantiate that with a link. I know Time.com named it one of the 50 best websites of 2008. This site LINKED HERE has it worth over 300,000 dollars. I'm sure in a sale it would fetch way more than that.

I heard Florio in an interview a few months ago saying, tongue and cheek, it would take 10 million to sell. I imagine he'd sell it for 3-5 million though. However, that's just speculation on my part and not founded by an real information or insight.

 
Nobody dislikes Florio's style, bad jokes, pointless pot shots and inane Seinfeld references more than I do. But that doesn't mean his site doesn't have value. He breaks stories, and he has sources. If you look at the stories he breaks, it is pretty apparent his main sources are agents. This leads to them using him for their own reasons occasionally, but it's tough find a site that gets news out as quick as PFT does. A lot of his stuff is gleaned from beat writers in other cities, but I don't feel like following 32+ beat writers. Do you?I have discovered the best way to use PFT: I set up the RSS feed for my Google Reader, so I don't go to the site at all, I can just skim the headlines, and avoid most of the Seinfeld YouTube clips and lame jokes.
This is a good balanced perspective. I am consistently surprised at the number of people who just don't take a site full of rumors and gossip for what it is. Florio does not sell it as something its not, and almost by definition rumors and gossip are going to be wrong more often than right.
 
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Chicago Hooligan said:
Giving up a law practice to run a gossip site: probably not a Good Life Decision.
You say this after he just presumably made a ton of cash from NBC? :goodposting: We all could be so lucky to make such a bad life decision. :rolleyes:
That doesn't look like a site that should have brought in any life changing amounts of money.
That's your opinion, but feel free to substantiate that with a link. I know Time.com named it one of the 50 best websites of 2008. This site LINKED HERE has it worth over 300,000 dollars. I'm sure in a sale it would fetch way more than that.

I heard Florio in an interview a few months ago saying, tongue and cheek, it would take 10 million to sell. I imagine he'd sell it for 3-5 million though. However, that's just speculation on my part and not founded by an real information or insight.
I would hazard a guess that the value in the website stems from Florio not in the actual site. PFT is a fine domain that should net plenty, don't get me wrong I'm just saying if some buyer were to purchase it and Florio washed his hands of it.....not sure it's as valuable as you think then.It can be tricky

 
Bri said:
From the same blog that had Cutler going to the Browns.No thanks.
This comment is fascinating in this thread.Andrew WILL say he's wrong when he's wrong and is very careful about rumors and yet in this Florio thread you dislike anything current from him(right?) because of some past Cutler--> Browns post.

I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, to each his own. I just find it fascinating

 
More info on the editorial aspect of this deal from Mr Florio himself:

Third, as Sam Farmer of the Los Angeles Times pointed out last night, and as Peter King of SI.com likely will reiterate in his MMQB column, NBC isn't "buying" the site. Larry Mazza and I still own PFT; the deal with NBC entails providing an exclusive license of our content.

We'll be sharing even more details on this new development in the coming days. And we know that, in the end, time will tell whether things change for the better, or the worse.

We're confident that it'll keep getting better — and we're confident that you'll agree.

Until then, thanks for your past support of the site. It has helped us get to this day. We hope you'll stick around as this crazy-### journey continues to unfold.
If you read the third point , you'd realize he didn't sell the site, just the right to the content. Perhaps people would get more out of the PFT site if they read it more carefully.
 
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I hope the NBC agreement doesn't mean that he has to stuff stories like "Chuck Season 3 Debuts Tonight!" into his news feeds. There are a fair number of stories that either have Sprint forced into them or are (even more annoying) completely 100% about Sprint instead of football.

 
I hope the NBC agreement doesn't mean that he has to stuff stories like "Chuck Season 3 Debuts Tonight!" into his news feeds. There are a fair number of stories that either have Sprint forced into them or are (even more annoying) completely 100% about Sprint instead of football.
He'll be plugging NBC every bit the same. No question about it. Just skim down and read the next story. Not sure what's so annoying about this.
 

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