Pick 1.02 in a PPR Start Up.. the most interesting Pick (1 Viewer)

[KellysHeroes]

For argument sake say Chris Johnson is off the board, I know not everyone will agree hes RB1 but I think most will.

But After CJ, the 2nd pick is very interesting... who would you take at #2? I think between Rice, Peterson, and MJD are all rated the same and comes down to the individual.

2 of the RBs are 25 / Rice will begin the later half of 23 and just under 2 years younger than the other 2.

All 3 are the Bell Cows of their teams (Rice will have some steals with Willis still in town)

MJD is a stud - 30 TDs in 2 years

Rice had over 2000 total yards in 16 games and 78 Recs

Peterson had 18 TDs last yr but struggled with fumbles

so which RB is 2nd

 

[Dooge12]

For argument sake say Chris Johnson is off the board, I know not everyone will agree hes RB1 but I think most will.But After CJ, the 2nd pick is very interesting... who would you take at #2? I think between Rice, Peterson, and MJD are all rated the same and comes down to the individual.2 of the RBs are 25 / Rice will begin the later half of 23 and just under 2 years younger than the other 2.All 3 are the Bell Cows of their teams (Rice will have some steals with Willis still in town)MJD is a stud - 30 TDs in 2 yearsRice had over 2000 total yards in 16 games and 78 RecsPeterson had 18 TDs last yr but struggled with fumbles so which RB is 2nd

I think Rice is your guy. Younger and in a PPR league, he's just really valuable. I think he'll learn to get in the endzone more and Boldin will only help that cause.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I think Rice is your guy. Younger and in a PPR league, he's just really valuable. I think he'll learn to get in the endzone more and Boldin will only help that cause.

for the people that like Rice, do you worry that the additional of Boldin steals from Rice's #s. Rice had so many Recs because over than an old Mason and nicked Heap who else was there to throw to? I can't see those #s again... not 80 Recs.

 

[southeastjerome]

For argument sake say Chris Johnson is off the board, I know not everyone will agree hes RB1 but I think most will.But After CJ, the 2nd pick is very interesting... who would you take at #2? I think between Rice, Peterson, and MJD are all rated the same and comes down to the individual.2 of the RBs are 25 / Rice will begin the later half of 23 and just under 2 years younger than the other 2.All 3 are the Bell Cows of their teams (Rice will have some steals with Willis still in town)MJD is a stud - 30 TDs in 2 yearsRice had over 2000 total yards in 16 games and 78 RecsPeterson had 18 TDs last yr but struggled with fumbles so which RB is 2nd

Last season Peterson's receptions doubled over his career high and I think they'll go up by a good margin again next year with Chester gone. I also think his fumbles will go down, he's too much of a competitor. I think he's the guy here.

 

[Abraham]

I'd take Brees or Rodgers, actually.

 

[finito]

I take Peterson, or trade down a couple and grab who's left of MJD, AP, Rice.

 

[footballsavvy]

I like Rice. He's the youngest and freshest and the most Barry-like.

And no I don't think that Boldin will reduce RR receptions. If anything his receiveing game will be worked into the official game plan much more often now that they have an whole off season to build around his discovered receiving capabilities.

 

[SayWhat?]

I think it's Peterson, MJD and Rice, in that order. While Rice is uber-talented, I'm of the belief that a significant portion of his value (insane amounts of receptions) is tied to Cam Cameron being the OC in Baltimore. Not that Rice would suck without Cameron, but I think it would be a significant blow to his value. After a long debate, I'd go with Peterson over MJD.

 

[anakin]

I think it's Peterson, MJD and Rice, in that order. While Rice is uber-talented, I'm of the belief that a significant portion of his value (insane amounts of receptions) is tied to Cam Cameron being the OC in Baltimore. Not that Rice would suck without Cameron, but I think it would be a significant blow to his value. After a long debate, I'd go with Peterson over MJD.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Last season Peterson's receptions doubled over his career high and I think they'll go up by a good margin again next year with Chester gone. I also think his fumbles will go down, he's too much of a competitor. I think he's the guy here.

Peterson may be the best all-round Back out of all 4 - CJ included. With Minny letting Chester go they must be looking to increase ADP's workload but how much more do you want to give him? 2008 he had 385 touches & 2009 he had 358 in 16 games. What evidence is there to suggest the fumbles will go down? He had 50 less carries in 09 and had 2 more fumbles than he had in 08.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I like Rice. He's the youngest and freshest and the most Barry-like.And no I don't think that Boldin will reduce RR receptions. If anything his receiveing game will be worked into the official game plan much more often now that they have an whole off season to build around his discovered receiving capabilities.

so you think RR will have 80 recs in 16 games next yr? Thats an awful lot.

 

[southeastjerome]

Last season Peterson's receptions doubled over his career high and I think they'll go up by a good margin again next year with Chester gone. I also think his fumbles will go down, he's too much of a competitor. I think he's the guy here.

Peterson may be the best all-round Back out of all 4 - CJ included. With Minny letting Chester go they must be looking to increase ADP's workload but how much more do you want to give him? 2008 he had 385 touches & 2009 he had 358 in 16 games. What evidence is there to suggest the fumbles will go down? He had 50 less carries in 09 and had 2 more fumbles than he had in 08.

No one can really predict fumbles. The only positive that I can gleam out of it is that ADP obviously is a focused and determined athlete. He has a track record as a hard worker even in the offseason. You've got to think that this is something he is working on and the Vikings too for that matter. They know that they sink or swim with ADP.

 

[karmarooster]

I'd take Brees or Rodgers, actually.

since this is PPR, i would consider AJ/Fitz/Calvin before looking at QBs.

 

[finito]

I'd take Brees or Rodgers, actually.

since this is PPR, i would consider AJ/Fitz/Calvin before looking at QBs.

I just couldn't bring myself to draft a QB in the first round of a startup.

 

[Tornacl]

I'd take Brees or Rodgers, actually.

since this is PPR, i would consider AJ/Fitz/Calvin before looking at QBs.

I just couldn't bring myself to draft a QB in the first round of a startup.

6 years ago (this will be our sixth season), I drafted Peyton Manning in the mid first round of a start-up PPR dynasty and I haven't regretted it for a moment. The only players that were drafted in the 1st round that are still playing (LT - 1.01, McGahee - 1.03, Manning - 1.04, Edge - 1.06, Randy Moss - 1.09, and Julius Jones - 1.10). The only two that have had close to his success were LT (but two down years in a row, and he wasn't an option for me to pick anyway) and Moss (a couple of bad years in Oakland), while Manning has been a top 5 QB every season except one (he was QB#6) and has never missed a game. Plus, LT is about done and Moss likely has less time left at a high level than Manning will likely have. I wouldn't take a QB at 1.2, but I would take someone like Rodgers in the middle of the 1st, although I would probably look to Fitz or Calvin first.

 

[ScottyFargo]

I'd take Brees or Rodgers, actually.

since this is PPR, i would consider AJ/Fitz/Calvin before looking at QBs.

I just couldn't bring myself to draft a QB in the first round of a startup.

6 years ago (this will be our sixth season), I drafted Peyton Manning in the mid first round of a start-up PPR dynasty and I haven't regretted it for a moment. The only players that were drafted in the 1st round that are still playing (LT - 1.01, McGahee - 1.03, Manning - 1.04, Edge - 1.06, Randy Moss - 1.09, and Julius Jones - 1.10). The only two that have had close to his success were LT (but two down years in a row, and he wasn't an option for me to pick anyway) and Moss (a couple of bad years in Oakland), while Manning has been a top 5 QB every season except one (he was QB#6) and has never missed a game. Plus, LT is about done and Moss likely has less time left at a high level than Manning will likely have. I wouldn't take a QB at 1.2, but I would take someone like Rodgers in the middle of the 1st, although I would probably look to Fitz or Calvin first.

Very sound argument.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

To me this is between Peterson and MJD. Rice gets his value from his receiving totals, but those numbers don't really seem to be sustainable. What's the going rate on the number of times 80 reception RBs catch anywhere near that many passes again for the rest of their career?

It seems like a lot of guys (LT, Ahman, Shaun Alexander, Sjax, Edge, Ronnie Brown, etc) were once considered receiving RBs and within a few years no longer were without anyone really noticing. LT is the only one of those guys to even come close to those type of receiving numbers again after doing it (he actually improved all the way up to 100 rec), and even he only did it once.

How many feature type RBs have maintained receiving totals like that? It seems like most follow that same path of losing 15+ receptions every year until they settle in at around 30-40 reception guys.

And having Cam Cameron be behind him only makes it even easier for that to happen, as when he's gone who knows if Rice will really be catching passes at all.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I'd take Brees or Rodgers, actually.

since this is PPR, i would consider AJ/Fitz/Calvin before looking at QBs.

I just couldn't bring myself to draft a QB in the first round of a startup.

6 years ago (this will be our sixth season), I drafted Peyton Manning in the mid first round of a start-up PPR dynasty and I haven't regretted it for a moment. The only players that were drafted in the 1st round that are still playing (LT - 1.01, McGahee - 1.03, Manning - 1.04, Edge - 1.06, Randy Moss - 1.09, and Julius Jones - 1.10). The only two that have had close to his success were LT (but two down years in a row, and he wasn't an option for me to pick anyway) and Moss (a couple of bad years in Oakland), while Manning has been a top 5 QB every season except one (he was QB#6) and has never missed a game. Plus, LT is about done and Moss likely has less time left at a high level than Manning will likely have. I wouldn't take a QB at 1.2, but I would take someone like Rodgers in the middle of the 1st, although I would probably look to Fitz or Calvin first.

Very sound argument.

Wait, anecdotal evidence is a sound argument now? What if he had drafted Daunte Culpepper in the 1st? Or Carson Palmer a few years later?

 

[LBH]

Id probably go with Rice because he was ultra productive last year even with Mcgahee getting a lot of TDs. Hes the youngest and possibly the best reciever of the three. MJD is very steady but I also like R.Jennings quite a lot and could see him getting a lot more involved. Of course thats just pure speculation on my part. Peterson might be the best pure runner, but with the way he runs i think he could have the shortest shelf life, and i still think they may look for a C.Taylor replacement in the draft to be a 3rd down RB. All 3 are strong considerations, but my preferance is RRice

 

[ScottyFargo]

Wait, anecdotal evidence is a sound argument now? What if he had drafted Daunte Culpepper in the 1st? Or Carson Palmer a few years later?

Touche

 

[Restricted]

Wait, anecdotal evidence is a sound argument now? What if he had drafted Daunte Culpepper in the 1st? Or Carson Palmer a few years later?

Other questions are the rest of the roster and # of championships?

 

[Pack43]

I'd take Brees or Rodgers, actually.

since this is PPR, i would consider AJ/Fitz/Calvin before looking at QBs.

I just couldn't bring myself to draft a QB in the first round of a startup.

Same here. And in my experience you can still get your top QB later. Participated in a start up last year with 6 pts per passing TD. Brees was the 1st QB off the board at 3.07 and the only one taken in the 1st 3 rounds. I got Peyton at 6.05. Did another 6 pt per TD about 4 or 5 years ago and got Peyton late 3rd. I don't recall a QB going before late 2nd in any start up I've done.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Want to keep the focus on the top RBs, I don't think many would consider taking a QB since you can get good value later in the draft.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Rice's receptions may go down some but I think his TDs will go up. And he's a little younger.

It's hard to pass on Peterson though. I think it's a win/win/win decision. Roll a die.

 

[Pack43]

I see little difference between the 3 and would trade down if I could get something of value. Forced to rank them though, I would go:

MJD

ADP

Rice

I give MJD the advantage over Peterson in PPR as I don't expect as narrow a gap in their receiving totals as we saw last year. I agree with the earlier posts that some of Rice's value is tied to Cameron with the receiving game.

 

[meatwad1]

I would go with Rice...I just have a feeling that last year was the tip of the iceberg and we are going see him blow up big time this year. Having Boldin only ensures that drives are sustained and there are more offensive plays to be had...plus overall as a team and organization, Baltimore, from top to bottom is tremendously consistent. I look at them as one of the teams to beat, as they usually draft very well and will fill the requisite holes.

From week to week, even with a MASSIVE TD vulture, Rice was a revelation and he also got better at the end. I have a hunch that he will be just as good as anone this year.

 

[Kleck]

I'd go with Adrian Peterson, and it would be an easy choice since I'd take him at 1.01.