Pick #9 Discussion (1 Viewer)

[Shane Falco]

Complete wasteland.

I'm sitting on #9 in both by non-PPR redrafts. I don't think the strategy is too much different in PPR at least early on. Maybe easier to justify taking 2 WRs or even going with a WR and QB. One thing I do know is these guys will be (or should be gone).

Foster

Rice

Rogers

McCoy

Calvin

Obviously if any of those drop its a no-brainer. Tougher call is going possibly with Brady or Brees or taking one of Mathews/Forte/Chris Johnson/MJD? For me a QB in round 1 or even round 2 (unless its about 2.11 or 2.12) is a no-no. I don't think I even consider it this year unless Rogers falls but even then I probably don't.

Does anyone see an argument for a WR over the RB (or possibly QB)? I like Fitz but the QBs there scare me too much for a 1st round pick. The rest of the top tier are nice but none jump out and I'd feel like I'm reaching for one of them.

Also possible at 9 that a TE could be in play. Both my leagues have a TE required but man I don't think I've ever seen a TE go in the 1st. Not even in Gates' heyday and then he was even more valuable since the was such a shortage of TEs. Now there are more but only 2 that score like WR1s.

So what ya gonna do?

 

[DerekR]

I am sitting at 1.8. I was kind of thinking the same thing. I am thinking maybe Mathews or CJ2K. Brees or Brady could fall back to me and so could one of the TEs

 

[gandalas]

TEs get 2PPR in our dynasty startup, so if either is there, I am likely taking one of Graham or Gronk.

 

[bigmiiiiike]

I traditionally have not been a fan of taking a QB before round 3, but I think if you pick late this is the year to do it. The separation at the top of both QB and TE makes it justifiable to open up with Brady/Gronk or something like that. The WR depth devalues everyone with the exception of Calvin IMO. I like Mathews so if he is there at 9, I could see taking him and then hoping Brees or Brady falls to your 2nd round pick, and if they're both gone then taking Graham or Gronk. But if Mathews is not there, the other RBs have too many question marks that I would seriously consider Brady/Brees in round 1 and Graham/Gronk in round 2.

Speaking further about the QBs, I really don't see that much of a difference between Rodgers and Brees/Brady. Granted I rank Rodgers at the top, they are all great and at the end of the year, barring injury, there won't be that much separation between the three. And the drop off after these three is significant. Stafford, Newton, Vick, etc. are all solid options as well, but represent much more risk of not repeating big numbers.

 

[meyerj31]

You know what I think? You guys spend way the hell too much time debating between the top 12 players and what to do with your first two picks. If you want to win your league spend your time finding the steals in the later rounds. The guys who won their leagues last year found Gronk and Graham in the 8th+ rounds. Taking either of them early, even if they go off again, isn't going to win your league. Find the next Gronk or Graham will win your league.

 

[gowiskijr]

I would avoid WRs unless the improbable happens and Megatron is there. Although I LOVE Graham this year I think I'd pass on him. I would target the same guys as what was said above. I like cj2k, Mathews, Brady, Brees here.

In the second round I would target another Rb then either Graham or Gronk. Then go crazy on WRs through rounds 3,4,5 and maybe even 6 unless there's nice RB value there. you'll grab guys like (harvin, Maclin, Marshall, etc.)

This is just a strategy I've been trysting in Mocks and I usually feel pretty comfortable with my teams afterward. You obviously can deviate from this strategy when the situation is right.

Now I am no fantasy expert do there's no need to be to critical haha

Just an idea

 

[Caesar]

For the record. I have drafted in the 9 spot 4 times this year out of 7 drafts. Last night, Calvin actually did fall to me at the 9 spot in a PPR.

I actually really like my teams drafting from that spot. Depending on the way the first 8 go, you can pretty much determine your next 3-4 positions. Bad side is that you probably need more overall flexibility based on the other people.

I still can't believe I got Calvin there. For the record, I went with Forte on the way back around.

 

[shadyridr]

Guys, Mathews wont be there at 9. hes the 4th RB going off the board ADP wise.

 

[-jb-]

I hope I don't get this slot. Probably the worst in '12. I am down on MJD and very undecided on Chris Johnson, who are pretty much your choices here.

 

[Caesar]

I hope I don't get this slot. Probably the worst in '12. I am down on MJD and very undecided on Chris Johnson, who are pretty much your choices here.

I don't understand this logic. why would you lock yourself into two players who you are "down" on? What makes the 9 spot the worst? Take the guy you would take at 10. problem solved. I don't know how many drafts you have done, but I have taken 4 different players in four different drafts at the 9 spot because every draft is different. Just because you tier players and rank them a certain way doesn't mean everyone else will. If that were the case, there would be no reason to draft. If you tier two QBs in the top, one WR, two TEs, and 3 RBs, then even at #9, you can get Matthews/McFadden. Hell, if you are down on CJ and MJD, then you should be projecting others higher, in which case you shouldn't be disappointed to get them. I don't know why people worry so much about draft position. You can win drafting from anywhere, and the first round is 5% or less of most drafts. I would argue that in terms of real impact on overall success, it is a lot less than 5%.Be happy wherever you are drafting. It FFF time...

 

[-jb-]

I hope I don't get this slot. Probably the worst in '12. I am down on MJD and very undecided on Chris Johnson, who are pretty much your choices here.

I don't understand this logic. why would you lock yourself into two players who you are "down" on? What makes the 9 spot the worst? Take the guy you would take at 10. problem solved. I don't know how many drafts you have done, but I have taken 4 different players in four different drafts at the 9 spot because every draft is different. Just because you tier players and rank them a certain way doesn't mean everyone else will. If that were the case, there would be no reason to draft. If you tier two QBs in the top, one WR, two TEs, and 3 RBs, then even at #9, you can get Matthews/McFadden. Hell, if you are down on CJ and MJD, then you should be projecting others higher, in which case you shouldn't be disappointed to get them. I don't know why people worry so much about draft position. You can win drafting from anywhere, and the first round is 5% or less of most drafts. I would argue that in terms of real impact on overall success, it is a lot less than 5%.Be happy wherever you are drafting. It FFF time...

What I was trying to say is that I see a significant drop-off in value at the 9 spot this year in most leagues. Based on blended projections and point system, those are the guys that vet out in the 8 and 9 spot, despite the fact that I don't view them as any better than the guys available in the second round. There is about a 25 point difference between them and the guys above them. That's a big drop-off. I would love to get Mathews...but chances are he won't be there. Add to it that I don't think you get a significantly better player in the early second round and being in the spot is not desirable.

 

[Caesar]

I hope I don't get this slot. Probably the worst in '12. I am down on MJD and very undecided on Chris Johnson, who are pretty much your choices here.

I don't understand this logic. why would you lock yourself into two players who you are "down" on? What makes the 9 spot the worst? Take the guy you would take at 10. problem solved. I don't know how many drafts you have done, but I have taken 4 different players in four different drafts at the 9 spot because every draft is different. Just because you tier players and rank them a certain way doesn't mean everyone else will. If that were the case, there would be no reason to draft. If you tier two QBs in the top, one WR, two TEs, and 3 RBs, then even at #9, you can get Matthews/McFadden. Hell, if you are down on CJ and MJD, then you should be projecting others higher, in which case you shouldn't be disappointed to get them. I don't know why people worry so much about draft position. You can win drafting from anywhere, and the first round is 5% or less of most drafts. I would argue that in terms of real impact on overall success, it is a lot less than 5%.Be happy wherever you are drafting. It FFF time...

What I was trying to say is that I see a significant drop-off in value at the 9 spot this year in most leagues. Based on blended projections and point system, those are the guys that vet out in the 8 and 9 spot, despite the fact that I don't view them as any better than the guys available in the second round. There is about a 25 point difference between them and the guys above them. That's a big drop-off. I would love to get Mathews...but chances are he won't be there. Add to it that I don't think you get a significantly better player in the early second round and being in the spot is not desirable.

I understand the dropoff from 1-7 or 1-8. My point is that you said it was the worst spot to draft from, but if you lump the next 8-10 guys around the same tier, then drafting 9-12 really has very little difference as far are total value. however, from the 9 spot, you have a little more control over which direction you want to go with those two picks whereas, 10-12 might be a little more reactive to what you do at 9 because you ARE starting that next tier.Again, I understand what you are saying. I have been very happy with my teams out of the 9 spot, so maybe I am just trying to justify my own drafts.

 

[ggggh7]

9..

not a bad spot in the draft.

stud qb,stud te, two possible top rbs, a jump on qb value from qb 5-12.

jump on rb run in the 5th, before those masterminds stuck with the 10,11,12 spots.

negatives, for me. i can not get Lloyd,Austin, M.,Harvin, P. unless i take them in the 4th..

 

[Zackattack]

I ahm picking 7th in one of my drafts. I think that there is such a shortage of true RB1's work horse backs you need to snag one there. CJ and Mcfadden are the ones I am targeting. Mcfadden is risky but could easily be the #1 RB this year.

 

[Shane Falco]

The more I think about this the more I'm leaning towards going with a RB, whoever is there between Mathews/ Forte/ CJ/ McFadden/ MJD and a TE. If a few of the RBs are there I may just take Graham at 1.9 and which ever RB makes it back to me. Still can't do Stafford/ Newton or any QB this early. Grab one RB and a TE, pound WR and RB for the next 4-5 rounds and grab a QB around 7 or 8th.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I'd say get a lock solid QB to lean on all year, Brady or Brees. Then Rd2 and after start piling up RB's who can pan out as RB1's.

Chris Johnson is someone I'd consider but last year was really ugly.

 

[wombat104]

Picking 9th in my main league (12 team PPR). The mocks I have done have left me thinking this is a tough spot this year as someone said earlier, #9 is starting the 2nd tier of players.

We are in metro Detroit, so my assumption is Megatron will be gone at #9 along with the 4 top RB's (Foster, Rice, McCoy & Matthews). If one of the big 3 QB's fall (Brees/Rodgers/Brady) I will take them. If the 3 QB's gone that leaves me a RB choice of Forte/Richardson/Johnson (assuming MJD doesn't sign soon). I think I will roll with CJ2K if that happens.

If I get a QB in the first then 2nd and 3rd are probably RB/RB, if I get a RB in the first then 2nd and third are probably RB/WR (or vise versa).

 

[pecorino]

who would you like at 1.12 or even 2.02, say? go ahead and take that player a few slots earlier. nothing wrong with reaching for a player you particularly like. so what if his ADP is a few slots lower. FWIW, my guy in this spot is Andre Johnson.

 

[wombat104]

Was rather disappointed with the Draft Strategy article for the 1.09. In years past there was some insight, this one seemed to mail it in with generalities.

 

[jurb26]

Just found out that I'll be picking 9th in one of my redraft leagues. I've pretty much determined that I'll be picking between MJD and McFadden. I'm leaning towards MJD because there is a better chance tht McFadden would make it back to me in the 2nd.

 

[Shane Falco]

Pull the trigger on Mathews when he falls to 9 or too much missed time early on?

 

[-jb-]

Pull the trigger on Mathews when he falls to 9 or too much missed time early on?

you can probably get him at 2.04

 

[ponchsox]

Just found out that I'll be picking 9th in one of my redraft leagues. I've pretty much determined that I'll be picking between MJD and McFadden. I'm leaning towards MJD because there is a better chance tht McFadden would make it back to me in the 2nd.

I would rather take McFadden and wait for Mathews two fall to you in the second. Both guys are obviously injury concerns, but if you have depth at RB when both are healthy that is a pretty sick duo.

 

[JD8p]

I am at 9...PPR...and I am leaning Forte at this point.

Ultimately I expect Foster, Rice, McCoy, Calvin, Rodgers, Brees, CJ and McFadden to be gone. If anyone slips into that group, it will be Brady for McFadden.

RB thins out real quick, and then you have some value plays for the 3rd and 4th rounds. With Forte at 9, the hope would be Fitzgerald or Graham with the 4th pick in the second, if neither of them are there, Gronkowski, Andre and Julio Jones (yeah...I know, but if I cannot get him in the 3rd it's not a horrible reach).

 

[Rick James]

You know what's weird...WRs have been falling like crazy in the drafts I've been doing. Roddy White in the 3rd...Andre Johnson in the 3rd, AJ Green in the 4th....and on the flipside RBs have been flying off the board after I make my 2nd round pick (2.4).

for instance, my first 5 picks started out like this:

1.9- Chris Johnson

2.4- Larry Fitzgerald

3.9- Andre Johnson

4.4- AJ Green

5.9- Mike Vick

Now I know this is just a mock draft, but I have been seeing this consistently. Kinda makes drafting at 9 easy.

 

[Nagle2998]

You know what I think? You guys spend way the hell too much time debating between the top 12 players and what to do with your first two picks. If you want to win your league spend your time finding the steals in the later rounds. The guys who won their leagues last year found Gronk and Graham in the 8th+ rounds. Taking either of them early, even if they go off again, isn't going to win your league. Find the next Gronk or Graham will win your league.

Or they took Rice in round one instead of guys like CJ or Charles.

 

[xenon]

Glad to see this thread. I started another on the 9th pick so I'll try and delete it.

Specifically, I am in a 12 team!

From what little research I've done (just started) it appears as though this is not the year to take a WR at #9. I have yet to my due diligence but from the outset, unless Brady or Brees falls to me, I am going RB...the question is which one?

 

[CamelGod]

#1 A. Foster

#2 R. Rice

#3 A. Rodgers

#4 L. McCoy

#5 Calvin Johnson

#6 T. Brady

#7 Chris Johnson

#8 M. Forte

#9 D. Murray

Whoever's highest on this list when it hits me at 9 is who I'm taking.

While I personally have McFadden ranked #8, I'm gambling that I'll get him at 2.04 since it's an ESPN league and they currently have him ranked at #30. That may change as the pre-season progresses.

 

[Rick James]

Glad to see this thread. I started another on the 9th pick so I'll try and delete it.

Specifically, I am in a 12 team!

From what little research I've done (just started) it appears as though this is not the year to take a WR at #9. I have yet to my due diligence but from the outset, unless Brady or Brees falls to me, I am going RB...the question is which one?

Just had a money draft @ #9 (12-team, PPR, FLEX (2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1rb/wr))1.09- Matt Forte-- Rodgers/Brady/Brees gone before me...I chose Forte over DMAC, MJD, GRAHAM and GRONK...thinking I could grab one of the two TEs with my next pick

2.04- Rob Gronkowski-- the 5 picks after my 1.09 pick were: DMAC, MJD, AP, Mathews, Murray...so RB was a no-go. I could've chosen FITZ, but WR is deep this year and I've been seeing WRs drop like flies in mocks. Love GRONK here.

3.09- Ahmad Bradshaw-- Cam Newton went 2 picks before mine. 7 WRs selected between my 2.04 pick and the 3.09 but JENNINGS, RODDY, AJ GREEN still on the board when I took Bradshaw. RB value was about to plummet, plus I keep going back to the WR position being real deep this year. Goal is to draft Bradshaw with 3.09 and try to get lucky and grab 1 of the 3 previously mentioned WRs with my 4.04 pick...

4.04- Doug Martin-- Roddy, AJ, Jennings, Vick are the notables taken between my 3.09 and 4.04 picks. Drats. Really close to getting one of those guys. Oh well, Doug Martin (TB) is on the board and is the last upper tier RB left before people start drafting guys like BJGE, Shonne Green, Redman, Ridley, etc. So I grab the guy. 3 top 15 RBs should do just fine in a 2/2/1 league with a RB/WR flex. Plus all three of my RBs can catch the ball. Plan at 5.09 is to draft one of Nicks/Bryant/Austin/Wallace.

5.09- Stevie Johnson-- the three picks directly before mine...Dez Bryant, Miles Austin, Hakeem Nicks. I actually yelled "####" when Nicks was taken before me. RIVERS/ELI/RYAN are still available, so I'll take one of those guys at 6.04.

6.04- Matt Ryan-- Matty Ice it is. Love the guy in the 6th round. I really think he's going to have a special year and seriously out-perform his ADP.

....

All in all, here's the complete team drafted from the 9-spot:

QB- Matt Ryan (6.04)

RB- Matt Forte (1.09), Ahmad Bradshaw (3.09)

WR- Stevie Johnson (5.09), Denarius Moore (7.09)

TE- Robb Gronkowski (2.04)

RB/WR- Doug Martin (4.04)

K- who cares

DEF- who cares

Bench QB - Josh Freeman (11.09)

Bench RB - Mark Ingram (8.04), Felix Jones (13.09)

Bench WR - Santonio Holmes (9.09), Heyward-Bey (10.04), Titus Young (12.04), Davone Bess (14.04...had sportscenter on and saw that Chad Johnson was released...figured what the hell)

Final Thoughts:

-I'm not thrilled with my WRs, but my strong RBs and TE should more than make up for it. Looking at DraftDominator, I seem to have the strongest team "on paper" out of the 12.

 

[Ace08]

I've mocked the heck out of the 8-9-10 spots on FF calculator over the past couple of weeks.

To me, if you're in PPR it behooves you to at least consider going WR-WR-WR or WR-WR-RB to start. I disagree strongly with the premise that you can get quality WR's late. You can get WR's...but not of the elite variety or for upside as such. Conversely, if you pick up the backup running back on a good team and starter gets hurt..there's a good chance you'll get very good production. Here's what a typical mock has looked like for me....and it assumes 12 team ppr with a rb/wr flex position:

1st - Julio

2nd - Fitz or Andre (your choice)

3rd - Here you have to make a choice and analyze the draft. I consistently see one of either B Marshall or AJ Green fall here. If that's the case it would take a good RB being available for me NOT to take one of those guys. If someone like Bradshaw or if T Rich/Matthews happen to fall this far I would definitely go that route. Otherwise I'm taking the 3rd WR here.

4th - Reggie Bush or McGahee

5th - Ridley or Hillis

6th - If a good TE like Witten is there...if not another RB (Ingram/ Donald Brown/ Jonathan Stewart)

7th - QB - Ryan/Rivers/Eli/Peyton . Some combination of these 4 are always still on the board at this point

After this point I still keep taking RB's - eventually mixing in a 4th wr like Collie or Armendola later.

Everyone's got their own strategy and opinion but I've been drafting using this same basic premise for about 5 years now and had very good success with it.

 

[JD8p]

I've mocked the heck out of the 8-9-10 spots on FF calculator over the past couple of weeks.To me, if you're in PPR it behooves you to at least consider going WR-WR-WR or WR-WR-RB to start. I disagree strongly with the premise that you can get quality WR's late. You can get WR's...but not of the elite variety or for upside as such. Conversely, if you pick up the backup running back on a good team and starter gets hurt..there's a good chance you'll get very good production. Here's what a typical mock has looked like for me....and it assumes 12 team ppr with a rb/wr flex position:1st - Julio2nd - Fitz or Andre (your choice)3rd - Here you have to make a choice and analyze the draft. I consistently see one of either B Marshall or AJ Green fall here. If that's the case it would take a good RB being available for me NOT to take one of those guys. If someone like Bradshaw or if T Rich/Matthews happen to fall this far I would definitely go that route. Otherwise I'm taking the 3rd WR here.4th - Reggie Bush or McGahee5th - Ridley or Hillis6th - If a good TE like Witten is there...if not another RB (Ingram/ Donald Brown/ Jonathan Stewart)7th - QB - Ryan/Rivers/Eli/Peyton . Some combination of these 4 are always still on the board at this pointAfter this point I still keep taking RB's - eventually mixing in a 4th wr like Collie or Armendola later. Everyone's got their own strategy and opinion but I've been drafting using this same basic premise for about 5 years now and had very good success with it.

I like Julio Jones a lot...thought I might be reaching at tad at 2.4, BUT I know he doesn't make it to 3.9.Interesting that you use a 1 on him.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Just had a money draft @ #9 (12-team, NON-PPR, FLEX (2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1rb/wr)), few picks listed below

1.9 - Calvin - wanted Mcfadden, was surprised Calvin lasted, could have taken Forte

2.4 - Stafford - wanted Forte to pair with Calvin, missed by one, took the last QB from the top 5. RB's available, S-Jax, Turner, F-Jax etc

3.9 - Jordy Nelson - RB's looked bad, best available was maybe Doug Martin or Frank Gore

4.4 - Sproles - Finally took an RB, other options were Greene, BGE

5.9 - Hillis - Pleased-ish to get him here

6.4 - Hernandez - good value?

7.9 - K. Smith - again a bit of a suprise he lasted, thought his ADP was quite a bit higher by now

8.4 - Donald Brown - Another starter, not too bad

9.9 - E. Decker - WR's getting really thin, count myself fortunate to get him here

Other notes, Julio Jones went 1.11. RB's absolutely flew off the board in round 2 and 3 (Murray and Lynch at 1.12 and 1.13), great WR options left by the time I picked third (Cruz, Nicks). Not a great draft by any means, but if I get lucky with the RB's, might be more than a serviceable team.

 

[JD8p]

The Julio Jones hype train is in full effect.

WOW.

 

[CamelGod]

#1 A. Foster

#2 R. Rice

#3 A. Rodgers

#4 L. McCoy

#5 Calvin Johnson

#6 T. Brady

#7 Chris Johnson

#8 M. Forte

#9 D. Murray

Whoever's highest on this list when it hits me at 9 is who I'm taking.

While I personally have McFadden ranked #8, I'm gambling that I'll get him at 2.04 since it's an ESPN league and they currently have him ranked at #30. That may change as the pre-season progresses.

People are figuring out McFadden's ESPN pre-rank of #28. I'm fixing this list:#8 D. McFadden

#9 M. Forte

 

[playsccr]

forte over brees if passing tds are 6 pts?? i think i would take brees?

 

[CamelGod]

forte over brees if passing tds are 6 pts?? i think i would take brees?

I've gone back and forth on Forte vs. Brees a couple times. Gut is winning out over logic right now with Forte. Something about Sean Payton not being there has me reluctant on him, dunno what it is. Here's hoping I don't have to worry about it and my 1-8 list isn't taken 1-8

 

[Pipes]

Just had a money draft @ #9 (12-team, NON-PPR, FLEX (2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1rb/wr)), few picks listed below1.9 - Calvin - wanted Mcfadden, was surprised Calvin lasted, could have taken Forte2.4 - Stafford - wanted Forte to pair with Calvin, missed by one, took the last QB from the top 5. RB's available, S-Jax, Turner, F-Jax etc3.9 - Jordy Nelson - RB's looked bad, best available was maybe Doug Martin or Frank Gore4.4 - Sproles - Finally took an RB, other options were Greene, BGE5.9 - Hillis - Pleased-ish to get him here6.4 - Hernandez - good value?7.9 - K. Smith - again a bit of a suprise he lasted, thought his ADP was quite a bit higher by now8.4 - Donald Brown - Another starter, not too bad9.9 - E. Decker - WR's getting really thin, count myself fortunate to get him hereOther notes, Julio Jones went 1.11. RB's absolutely flew off the board in round 2 and 3 (Murray and Lynch at 1.12 and 1.13), great WR options left by the time I picked third (Cruz, Nicks). Not a great draft by any means, but if I get lucky with the RB's, might be more than a serviceable team.

Out of curiousity could you list the top 8 picks? I can't envision a scenario that Megatron lasts until 1.9. I'm struggingly with who to take at 1.09 in a 16 team league...leaning towards McFadden right now.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Just had a money draft @ #9 (12-team, NON-PPR, FLEX (2rb, 2wr, 1te, 1rb/wr)), few picks listed below1.9 - Calvin - wanted Mcfadden, was surprised Calvin lasted, could have taken Forte2.4 - Stafford - wanted Forte to pair with Calvin, missed by one, took the last QB from the top 5. RB's available, S-Jax, Turner, F-Jax etc3.9 - Jordy Nelson - RB's looked bad, best available was maybe Doug Martin or Frank Gore4.4 - Sproles - Finally took an RB, other options were Greene, BGE5.9 - Hillis - Pleased-ish to get him here6.4 - Hernandez - good value?7.9 - K. Smith - again a bit of a suprise he lasted, thought his ADP was quite a bit higher by now8.4 - Donald Brown - Another starter, not too bad9.9 - E. Decker - WR's getting really thin, count myself fortunate to get him hereOther notes, Julio Jones went 1.11. RB's absolutely flew off the board in round 2 and 3 (Murray and Lynch at 1.12 and 1.13), great WR options left by the time I picked third (Cruz, Nicks). Not a great draft by any means, but if I get lucky with the RB's, might be more than a serviceable team.

Out of curiousity could you list the top 8 picks? I can't envision a scenario that Megatron lasts until 1.9. I'm struggingly with who to take at 1.09 in a 16 team league...leaning towards McFadden right now.

Sure:Brady, Foster, Rice, Rodgers, McCoy, Mcfadden, CJ, Brees

 

[bruinsball]

Went #9 in a big money non-PPR redraft league last night-start 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, and 1k (3pt pass td and 6pt td rush/rec). I drew the 5th choice of where to draft and picked #9, with the thought of picking CJ2k or DMAC (1-4 were gone and I didnt want a qb - only 3pt pass td in my league). Cj2k and DMAC went #7 and #8, and CJ went #5). I took MJD at #10. Decent knowledge overall with a few guppies thrown in. Let me know if you have any questions on where any particular player went. Not sure how I feel drafting at the back end this year. If you don't want a qb, it's definitely better than drafting in the middle as you have a chance at two decent rbs as it can get very thin after the first 15-20 picks. I felt there were a few good rb values found in round 3 (3.01- Forte, 3.04-Richardson, 3.07 SJax-I love his value there with fisher likely giving him 260+ carries). This is how drafting #9 went for me:

1.09 MJD (was hoping for CJ2k or DMAC)

2.04 Matthews (a little high but I had him #4 overall before the broken clavicle, I'm a big believer in PPG and I think he will produce when healthy)

3.09 Charles (wasn't looking for an rb but too good of value to pass up)

4.04 victor Cruz (thought about harvin here, but thought I could maybe get him in round 5)

5.09 brandon Lloyd (harvin went 4 picks before)

6.04 Antonio brown

7.09 Fred Davis (felt like I reached after I make this pick, I like him but didn't feel like I got good value)

8.04 Denarius Moore

9.09 RG3 (was planning to take Ryan in rd 7 but he went at 7.01)

10.04 mark Ingram

11.09 Carson Palmer (was planning to go all rookie qb, but Luck went at 11.03)

12.04 Ronnie Hillman

13.09 Randall Cobb

14.04 Nate kaeding

 

[JD8p]

Went #9 in a big money non-PPR redraft league last night-start 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, and 1k (3pt pass td and 6pt td rush/rec). I drew the 5th choice of where to draft and picked #9, with the thought of picking CJ2k or DMAC (1-4 were gone and I didnt want a qb - only 3pt pass td in my league). Cj2k and DMAC went #7 and #8, and CJ went #5). I took MJD at #10. Decent knowledge overall with a few guppies thrown in. Let me know if you have any questions on where any particular player went. Not sure how I feel drafting at the back end this year. If you don't want a qb, it's definitely better than drafting in the middle as you have a chance at two decent rbs as it can get very thin after the first 15-20 picks. I felt there were a few good rb values found in round 3 (3.01- Forte, 3.04-Richardson, 3.07 SJax-I love his value there with fisher likely giving him 260+ carries). This is how drafting #9 went for me:1.09 MJD (was hoping for CJ2k or DMAC)2.04 Matthews (a little high but I had him #4 overall before the broken clavicle, I'm a big believer in PPG and I think he will produce when healthy)3.09 Charles (wasn't looking for an rb but too good of value to pass up)4.04 victor Cruz (thought about harvin here, but thought I could maybe get him in round 5)5.09 brandon Lloyd (harvin went 4 picks before)6.04 Antonio brown 7.09 Fred Davis (felt like I reached after I make this pick, I like him but didn't feel like I got good value)8.04 Denarius Moore9.09 RG3 (was planning to take Ryan in rd 7 but he went at 7.01)10.04 mark Ingram11.09 Carson Palmer (was planning to go all rookie qb, but Luck went at 11.03)12.04 Ronnie Hillman 13.09 Randall Cobb14.04 Nate kaeding

This is clearly one of those scenarios where Charles falling had you kicking yourself over passing WR in the first two rounds. That said, going MJD / Mathews rounds 1 and 2 is a little too much risk for my taste, but that's me.

 

[Rick James]

Went #9 in a big money non-PPR redraft league last night-start 1qb, 2rb, 3wr, 1te, and 1k (3pt pass td and 6pt td rush/rec). I drew the 5th choice of where to draft and picked #9, with the thought of picking CJ2k or DMAC (1-4 were gone and I didnt want a qb - only 3pt pass td in my league). Cj2k and DMAC went #7 and #8, and CJ went #5). I took MJD at #10. Decent knowledge overall with a few guppies thrown in. Let me know if you have any questions on where any particular player went. Not sure how I feel drafting at the back end this year. If you don't want a qb, it's definitely better than drafting in the middle as you have a chance at two decent rbs as it can get very thin after the first 15-20 picks. I felt there were a few good rb values found in round 3 (3.01- Forte, 3.04-Richardson, 3.07 SJax-I love his value there with fisher likely giving him 260+ carries). This is how drafting #9 went for me:1.09 MJD (was hoping for CJ2k or DMAC)2.04 Matthews (a little high but I had him #4 overall before the broken clavicle, I'm a big believer in PPG and I think he will produce when healthy)3.09 Charles (wasn't looking for an rb but too good of value to pass up)4.04 victor Cruz (thought about harvin here, but thought I could maybe get him in round 5)5.09 brandon Lloyd (harvin went 4 picks before)6.04 Antonio brown 7.09 Fred Davis (felt like I reached after I make this pick, I like him but didn't feel like I got good value)8.04 Denarius Moore9.09 RG3 (was planning to take Ryan in rd 7 but he went at 7.01)10.04 mark Ingram11.09 Carson Palmer (was planning to go all rookie qb, but Luck went at 11.03)12.04 Ronnie Hillman 13.09 Randall Cobb14.04 Nate kaeding

This is clearly one of those scenarios where Charles falling had you kicking yourself over passing WR in the first two rounds. That said, going MJD / Mathews rounds 1 and 2 is a little too much risk for my taste, but that's me.

Ah, I just noticed it wasn't a FLEX league. 2RB/3WR/1TE.I think that draft would look a lot better (it still looks good) if Graham or Gronkowski was the pick at 2.04. Not sure if they were available, and yeah this is hindsight.

 

[Big Blue Wrecking Crew]

 

[playsccr]

Non ppr 12 teams non keeper. Would you trade the 9 th pick for the 4th pick in all rounds except in the 5th where I would be picking 9th slot and he would be in the 4th. Basically I would move up in the first and move back in the 5th?

 

[xenon]

I've done a few mocks and find that Brees or Forte are generally available @ #9.

I am really hoping for CJ2k (or Mcfadden although doubtful) and then to come back with WR and then either WR or RB in the 3rd (ie best available)

I am preferring to bypass Brees and get a QB later on in draft while building RB/WR depth. Anybody else consistently seeing these two guys (Brees/Forte) at 9? or anybody else?

For those drafting a RB @ #1, what WR are you targeting/getting in round 2?

 

[ponchsox]

I've done a few mocks and find that Brees or Forte are generally available @ #9.I am really hoping for CJ2k (or Mcfadden although doubtful) and then to come back with WR and then either WR or RB in the 3rd (ie best available)I am preferring to bypass Brees and get a QB later on in draft while building RB/WR depth. Anybody else consistently seeing these two guys (Brees/Forte) at 9? or anybody else? For those drafting a RB @ #1, what WR are you targeting/getting in round 2?

I'm picking #9 and also hoping for CJ2K or McFadden but if they are both gone I will take the QB that falls, most likely Brees. I just don't think Forte is worth the 9th pick, especially in non-ppr. If I took Brees in the 1st I will definitely take a RB in the second (Murray, Lynch, etc).

 

[jurb26]

I've done a few mocks and find that Brees or Forte are generally available @ #9.I am really hoping for CJ2k (or Mcfadden although doubtful) and then to come back with WR and then either WR or RB in the 3rd (ie best available)I am preferring to bypass Brees and get a QB later on in draft while building RB/WR depth. Anybody else consistently seeing these two guys (Brees/Forte) at 9? or anybody else? For those drafting a RB @ #1, what WR are you targeting/getting in round 2?

I'm picking #9 and also hoping for CJ2K or McFadden but if they are both gone I will take the QB that falls, most likely Brees. I just don't think Forte is worth the 9th pick, especially in non-ppr. If I took Brees in the 1st I will definitely take a RB in the second (Murray, Lynch, etc).

I'm in the same boat as you. My draft starts in about 4 hours and until this morning I was thinking I had almost no shot at seeing Johnson on the board. I was about 50/50 that McFadden would be there. I'm now thinking I've got about a 75% shot at landing one of those guys.

 

[jurb26]

Drafting now and here are results so far;

1.09 Chris Johnson

2.04 Richardson

3.09 R. Bush

4.04 Bowe

5.09 Maclin

6.04 Gates

7.09 Garçon

8.04 D. Brown

9.09 Schaub

10.04 Ryan Williams

 

[AtomicDogg97]

So do people really value guys like Chris Johnson and Darren McFadden over Drew Brees??

 

[xenon]

So do people really value guys like Chris Johnson and Donovan McFadden over Drew Brees??

Part of it depends on scoring structure but for me personally, I think I can get value later in the draft with II or III tier QB and build better depth at WR/RB. It's somewhat apparent that not grabbing a RB early this year will hurt and from my perspective, I am buying that info. QB's have cleqarly proven great value (especially the last two years) and while my thinking may be faulty here I've always traditionally waited (and likely will this year w/ #9 pick) + I play in PPR so I like to build my WR corps. I just hope Mcfadden or CJ2K are there for me.

 

[Eviloutsider]

I think this is the worst spot for 6 pt QB TD leagues. More than likely gone are the easy ones (Foster, Rice, McCoy), the QBs (Rodgers, Brees, Brady), and the others (Calvin and CJ). That makes me have to pick McFadden, Forte, or Stafford. Yuck.