wormburner
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Do you think any of the social causes this funds will translate to less dirty football on the field?
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BobbyLayne
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Sounds like Caldwell.
My team is owned by 92 year old woman who may not know which day it is. What is Mike Brown’s excuse?
5-ish Finkle
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Right, I’ve heard he won’t fire anyone under contract because he hates paying a settlement or dead money to someone he’s fired. Nobody has sympathy for plight of the billionaire but I imagine the Brown family has the lowest net worth after you subtract the value of the franchise. As one of the least valuable the franchises that’s around $2,000,000,000. Have compassion, folks.
The Lions aren’t exactly cheap these days - Stafford’s contract, recent stadium improvements, et al - but the team is just part of the portfolio. Quinn was a good hire as GM but the team President is an executive who oversees the family real estate holdings. “I’m not a football guy” doesn’t inspire confidence they are on mission.
Be just good enough to keep selling the place out every Sunday.
Bossman
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I would love for all teams to be fully healthy but I think most teams are missing key players at this point in the season.
If missing Shazier is the difference maker, Steelers are weaker than advertised.
Easy to speculate the Patriots would beat the Steelers by 4 TD's if they had Edleman, Hogan, Malcom Mitchel, Bennett, and 2 starting O-lineman that are out due to injury / IR.
Hopefully the Steelers can hold off the Ravens and go into the NE game with #1 seed on the line.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Man, it sounds like unexpectedly great news re: Shazier this morning. Details are slim, but they're talking about "improvement" and "no surgery" and him going back to Pittsburgh today.
Franknbeans
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fred_1_15301
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Oh totally agree. I wasn't trying to use that as an excuse. I actually believe the Steelers will beat the Ravens next week and the Patriots/Steelers game will be an exciting game (unlike the playoffs). The Patriots in my opinion are on another level compared to the Steelers (with or without Shazier). They have been for a long time. That doesn't mean that they're going to walk into Pittsburgh and blow them away.
BTW - Even if the Steelers lose to the Ravens, the Steelers/Patriots game will likely still determine who gets the # 1 seed.
This makes no sense. You think being without your best defensive player shouldn't be a "difference maker?" You think that a team that might not be able to overcome the absence of one of their best players makes them "weaker than advertised?"
You don't think the Patriots would have a harder time beating Pittsburgh without Brady, or Gronk? If one of them were unable to play in week 15, and the Steelers won, would that make NE "weaker than advertised?" Because they were unable to overcome the loss of a special player?
BobbyLayne
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There seriously needs to be a summit between Art Rooney II, Mike Brown, the HCs, Team Captains...somebody has to step up & say enough with this rivalry bullshot, this has gotten out of control. This is bad football, dangerous, tarnishes the image of the game, turns fans into disgusted former supporters.
I’d suggest Goodell but that would imply leadership.
I’d suggest Goodell but that would imply leadership.
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HellToupee
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ESPN leads the broadcast about this physical rivalry and trying to hype the game & gets all offended when the game gets brutal
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
He is likely be our very best defensive player and top cover guy.Bossman said:
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Might wanna include Baltimore too.BobbyLayne said:
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
Agreed, it was horrendoustimschochet said:
The General
Footballguy
Big hits are great. Big hits at people’s heads, especially when the guy making the hit lined it up, not so great.HellToupee said:
Steeler
Footballguy
Maybe I'm an old-school neanderthal jerk, but I don't think this game was the blood bath that Good Morning Football (and others?) where making it out to be - but I never try to interpret player's "intent to injure" other players. The Shazier injury was a fluke and the Mixon concussion could happen on any play in any game - that was a clean/legal tackle. The Burfict hit by JuJu was too high, was flagged, and he'll certainly get fined - but I didn't see "intent to injure". The taunting was the worst part of the play and I hated to see it - JuJu seems like a good guy and apologized afterwards, said he didn't even know it was Burfict at the time. Now, the apology shouldn't factor into any reduced fines/suspensions/whatever. But if that shot was 6 inches lower it's a perfect shoulder to chest block.
I don't even have a problem with the hit G. Iloka made on AB. Again, it was a clear head-shot and he'll be fined, maybe suspended, he may be a repeat offender so the fine/suspension might be more - whatever. What is any defender supposed to do in that situation? Is he supposed to pull up and let the best WR in the game tie the score? He's paid to try to break up that play and has to try to do that in a split second... maybe he was trying to hit AB in the chest... doesn't matter... in today's NFL that will be a fine/suspension and I'm good with that.
I don't even have a problem with the hit G. Iloka made on AB. Again, it was a clear head-shot and he'll be fined, maybe suspended, he may be a repeat offender so the fine/suspension might be more - whatever. What is any defender supposed to do in that situation? Is he supposed to pull up and let the best WR in the game tie the score? He's paid to try to break up that play and has to try to do that in a split second... maybe he was trying to hit AB in the chest... doesn't matter... in today's NFL that will be a fine/suspension and I'm good with that.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I'm with you. The big hits were illegal cause they were high They certainly warranted penalties & the upcoming fines but if you start suspending non-repeat offenders for every helmet-to-helmet collision you're not going to have enough players to play the game.
I think the NFL is doing the right thing with the fines but there is no way you're going to eliminate these kinds of hits entirely without drastically changing the game. If seeing these types of hits are offensive then you should be watching another sport.
SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Way to go Marvin. Idiot.
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Bossman
Footballguy
Very true.Bayhawks said:
I think my objective was to "stir the pot" ... and I'd rather there be no excuses for who loses.
Patriots could lose their best defensive player and it would not "change a lot" like the poster (that I quoted) had stated about Shazier.
Granted NE doesn't really have any Shazier caliber players on defense so not fair to compare.
Someone needs to start a "Week 15 NE vs. PIT" thread so we can discuss this further.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Well now I don't really get your point. Are you conceding that the loss of Shazier does "change things a lot"? Because you admit that the Patriots don't have any Shazier caliber players on defense. To me that sort of implies that you realize how good Shazier really is.
Agree with you about the no excuse thing. If you've seen some of my posts in the Steelers or Playoff Picture thread, you would realize who I believe is the best team in the AFC by a wide margin (and that was before the Shazier injury).
grateful zed
Footballguy
it was a short man's game.Grigs Allmoon said:
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
I have no quarrel with you sir and I appreciate your service. Clearly a joke in the heat of the moment. Good night and have a pleasant tomorrow.Brisco54 said:
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