Plaxico is flying to Pittsburgh (1 Viewer)

[CrossEyed]

to meet with Mike Tomlin. According to Mort.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This makes sense

1. Veteran team that can all look after Plax

2. Hines Ward slowed down last year and perhaps they need a little more pop opposite Wallace. I'm not sure Plax is better than Ward at this point or not but the rest of the WRs are largely young so Plax would be another veteran as they try and make a return trip to the SB.

3. From a FF POV I like the idea of a QB like Ben throwing him the ball however you can't think he would catch more than about 35-40 balls with Wallace, Ward, and others wanting the ball.

 

[massraider]

This makes sense1. Veteran team that can all look after Plax

He doesn't need it. Plax gets a bum rap. He doesn't play the media game, which is a no-no in New York, but the coaches had no problem with him. Read the book about Ernie Accorsi's final year in New York. Plax was/is not a problem child. He had a really dumb accident, and they had to make an example of him because they literally had JUST passed the new law about guns in the city. This is not Chris Henry or Pacman Jones. The fact that both his former teams appear interested speaks volumes.Now, whether he still has speed or skill, is another matter.

 

[grtwhtsk]

How can he meet with Pittsburgh before Friday? Thought there was a rule preventing him from meeting with the Giants (and any other teams) till then.

 

[Clifford]

I love that the Bears are too good to talk to this guy, but the closest thing the NFL has to a dynasty isn't.

 

[Sweet Love]

This makes sense1. Veteran team that can all look after Plax

He doesn't need it. Plax gets a bum rap. He doesn't play the media game, which is a no-no in New York, but the coaches had no problem with him. Read the book about Ernie Accorsi's final year in New York. Plax was/is not a problem child. He had a really dumb accident, and they had to make an example of him because they literally had JUST passed the new law about guns in the city. This is not Chris Henry or Pacman Jones. The fact that both his former teams appear interested speaks volumes.Now, whether he still has speed or skill, is another matter.

Very true...with that said, I thought there was some animosity in Plax's leaving Pitt the first time around...I remember some quote by Ward after they won the first SB that they could do it "without the big name WR"...directed at Plax. I'm not going to question a team like Pitt, but I wonder what the upside is, as he has a totally different skillset than that of Ward and would think Wallce is much closer to him in terms of skill (and much younger and more integrated in the system).

 

[Evilgrin 72]

He and Ben remained friendly over the years. Ben has been petitioning the front office to obtain him a larger receiver that can be used as a red-zone target. Sweed was supposed to be the guy, but he clearly can't catch a cold. They were widely thought to be in the market for a big receiver before the draft, but did not select one. I've been waiting to see this headline for weeks.

 

[DynOmite]

This makes sense

1. Veteran team that can all look after Plax

2. Hines Ward slowed down last year and perhaps they need a little more pop opposite Wallace. I'm not sure Plax is better than Ward at this point or not but the rest of the WRs are largely young so Plax would be another veteran as they try and make a return trip to the SB.

3. From a FF POV I like the idea of a QB like Ben throwing him the ball however you can't think he would catch more than about 35-40 balls with Wallace, Ward, and others wanting the ball.

Yeah, Roethlisberger and Harrison are primo big brothers.

 

[CrossEyed]

How can he meet with Pittsburgh before Friday? Thought there was a rule preventing him from meeting with the Giants (and any other teams) till then.

They can talk, they just can't sign.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

This makes sense1. Veteran team that can all look after Plax

He doesn't need it. Plax gets a bum rap. He doesn't play the media game, which is a no-no in New York, but the coaches had no problem with him. Read the book about Ernie Accorsi's final year in New York. Plax was/is not a problem child. He had a really dumb accident, and they had to make an example of him because they literally had JUST passed the new law about guns in the city. This is not Chris Henry or Pacman Jones. The fact that both his former teams appear interested speaks volumes.Now, whether he still has speed or skill, is another matter.

True. He doesn't have a history of missing meetings and being disinterested at practices, nor being late.

 

[JFurby]

How did he make it through TSA?

 

[CrossEyed]

Now I'm hearing that they are bringing him in to be locker room security guard.

 

[hook014]

He and Ben remained friendly over the years. Ben has been petitioning the front office to obtain him a larger receiver that can be used as a red-zone target. Sweed was supposed to be the guy, but he clearly can't catch a cold. They were widely thought to be in the market for a big receiver before the draft, but did not select one. I've been waiting to see this headline for weeks.

And at minimum they keep Ben happy cause they "talked to him".Whether they sign him or not. I'm guessing not.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

This makes sense1. Veteran team that can all look after Plax

He doesn't need it. Plax gets a bum rap. He doesn't play the media game, which is a no-no in New York, but the coaches had no problem with him. Read the book about Ernie Accorsi's final year in New York. Plax was/is not a problem child. He had a really dumb accident, and they had to make an example of him because they literally had JUST passed the new law about guns in the city. This is not Chris Henry or Pacman Jones. The fact that both his former teams appear interested speaks volumes.Now, whether he still has speed or skill, is another matter.

I supported Plax and thought it was a bogus sentence.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

He and Ben remained friendly over the years. Ben has been petitioning the front office to obtain him a larger receiver that can be used as a red-zone target. Sweed was supposed to be the guy, but he clearly can't catch a cold. They were widely thought to be in the market for a big receiver before the draft, but did not select one. I've been waiting to see this headline for weeks.

And at minimum they keep Ben happy cause they "talked to him".Whether they sign him or not. I'm guessing not.

I think if he'll sign a short-term deal for smallish $ in an attempt to rehab his value, they'll sign him. I'd be willing to bet that deep down, it's probably his first choice to go back to Pittsburgh (assuming money is equal wherever he's offered) and signing him would allow them to immediately cut Sweed and/or Randle-El. I imagine a 1 year, $1.5-$2 million deal or something like that would get him in the fold. I have no idea if anyone else is offering more years/money than that, I really have no gauge on what his perceived value is at the moment.ETA : Just read Giants offered 2 years at around $6.5 million, with another $4 million possible in incentives. I can't imagine the Steelers will offer that, so Plax will likely have to decide whether he wants back in PIT for less. My guess is he re-signs with the Giants.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

He and Ben remained friendly over the years. Ben has been petitioning the front office to obtain him a larger receiver that can be used as a red-zone target. Sweed was supposed to be the guy, but he clearly can't catch a cold. They were widely thought to be in the market for a big receiver before the draft, but did not select one. I've been waiting to see this headline for weeks.

And at minimum they keep Ben happy cause they "talked to him".Whether they sign him or not. I'm guessing not.

I think if he'll sign a short-term deal for smallish $ in an attempt to rehab his value, they'll sign him. I'd be willing to bet that deep down, it's probably his first choice to go back to Pittsburgh (assuming money is equal wherever he's offered) and signing him would allow them to immediately cut Sweed and/or Randle-El. I imagine a 1 year, $1.5-$2 million deal or something like that would get him in the fold. I have no idea if anyone else is offering more years/money than that, I really have no gauge on what his perceived value is at the moment.

Agree, think it would be a nice spot for him to land but I'm not sure he will be a big splash in terms of production for owners this year.

 

[grtwhtsk]

How can he meet with Pittsburgh before Friday? Thought there was a rule preventing him from meeting with the Giants (and any other teams) till then.

They can talk, they just can't sign.

They can't talk till Friday, and it looks like he will meet with the Giants and the Steelers then. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6809115/plaxico-burress-likely-new-york-giants-pittsburgh-steelers

 

[Faust]

This makes sense

1. Veteran team that can all look after Plax

He doesn't need it. Plax gets a bum rap. He doesn't play the media game, which is a no-no in New York, but the coaches had no problem with him. Read the book about Ernie Accorsi's final year in New York. Plax was/is not a problem child. He had a really dumb accident, and they had to make an example of him because they literally had JUST passed the new law about guns in the city. This is not Chris Henry or Pacman Jones. The fact that both his former teams appear interested speaks volumes.Now, whether he still has speed or skill, is another matter.

True. He doesn't have a history of missing meetings and being disinterested at practices, nor being late.

He was accused of missing or being late for upwards of 50 team meetings, which he is now denying:Plaxico, Giants have mutual interest

Excerpt:

A source with knowledge of the situation tells us that Burress is indeed interested in the Giants. That comes in response to a report from Adam Schefter that the Giants are discussing Plaxico’s possible return.

On Monday, Giants co-owner John Mara said that the team “certainly . . . will talk” about pursuing Burress. Coach Tom Coughlin reportedly expressed a willingness to engage in those discussions.

It all seems a bit bizarre, especially since Burress was fined upwards of 50 times during his final season with the team. Then there’s the fact that he shot himself in the leg, which surely contributed to the Giants’ inability to get beyond the divisional round that year in the postseason.

Plaxico not interested in playing for Tom Coughlin againExcerpt:

In an interview with ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith, about which we’ve already posted a couple of blurbs, Burress rules out playing for Giants coach Tom Coughlin.

Burress described their relationship as “ambivalent,” and he said that he rebelled against Coughlin. “I’ve missed some meetings,” Burress said. “I’ve been late. I’ve been fined.”

Specifically, we’ve heard that Burress was fined upwards of 50 times in 2008 alone for a variety of infractions.

In contrast, Burress spoke glowingly about his relationship with former Steelers coach Bill Cowher. And that means it could make sense to keep an eye on teams coached by men over whom Cowher has influence, such as the Cardinals and Ken Whisenhunt, and the Bills and Chan Gailey.

It also could make sense to pay even closer attention to the Steelers, given that offensive coordinator Bruce Arians served as Plaxico’s position coach in Pittsburgh. Given quarterback Ben Roethlisberger’s stated desire for tall receivers and Roethlisberger’s close relationship with Arians, an effort to bring Burress back to the ‘Burgh could be in the offing.

New York Giants Notes: Plaxico Unlikely To Play For CoughlinExcerpt:

The other intriguing nugget from the interview was Burress' refutation of the report that he missed 40 to 50 meetings during his time with the Giants. Burress also disputed a report saying he was fined nearly $500,000 in his Giants career.

"That is inaccurate," Burress said. "I missed a few meetings. There is no way possible. There is no way I missed 40 or 50 meetings in the four years I was there."

 

[hook014]

He and Ben remained friendly over the years. Ben has been petitioning the front office to obtain him a larger receiver that can be used as a red-zone target. Sweed was supposed to be the guy, but he clearly can't catch a cold. They were widely thought to be in the market for a big receiver before the draft, but did not select one. I've been waiting to see this headline for weeks.

And at minimum they keep Ben happy cause they "talked to him".Whether they sign him or not. I'm guessing not.

I think if he'll sign a short-term deal for smallish $ in an attempt to rehab his value, they'll sign him. I'd be willing to bet that deep down, it's probably his first choice to go back to Pittsburgh (assuming money is equal wherever he's offered) and signing him would allow them to immediately cut Sweed and/or Randle-El. I imagine a 1 year, $1.5-$2 million deal or something like that would get him in the fold. I have no idea if anyone else is offering more years/money than that, I really have no gauge on what his perceived value is at the moment.

Agree that his value is hard to gauge.This would probably be the best thing for Plax.Does he finally make the right decision? I hope so.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

He and Ben remained friendly over the years. Ben has been petitioning the front office to obtain him a larger receiver that can be used as a red-zone target. Sweed was supposed to be the guy, but he clearly can't catch a cold. They were widely thought to be in the market for a big receiver before the draft, but did not select one. I've been waiting to see this headline for weeks.

And at minimum they keep Ben happy cause they "talked to him".Whether they sign him or not. I'm guessing not.

I think if he'll sign a short-term deal for smallish $ in an attempt to rehab his value, they'll sign him. I'd be willing to bet that deep down, it's probably his first choice to go back to Pittsburgh (assuming money is equal wherever he's offered) and signing him would allow them to immediately cut Sweed and/or Randle-El. I imagine a 1 year, $1.5-$2 million deal or something like that would get him in the fold. I have no idea if anyone else is offering more years/money than that, I really have no gauge on what his perceived value is at the moment.

Agree, think it would be a nice spot for him to land but I'm not sure he will be a big splash in terms of production for owners this year.

Agreed. Maybe as a WR3 in TD-heavy leagues. I could see something like 42-560-7. Then again, I'm totally guessing in terms of what he has left in the tank after a couple years in the hoosegow. Seems like it made Vick a better player, though he's also a lot younger...

 

[CrossEyed]

How can he meet with Pittsburgh before Friday? Thought there was a rule preventing him from meeting with the Giants (and any other teams) till then.

They can talk, they just can't sign.

They can't talk till Friday, and it looks like he will meet with the Giants and the Steelers then. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6809115/plaxico-burress-likely-new-york-giants-pittsburgh-steelers

I stand corrected.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

He and Ben remained friendly over the years. Ben has been petitioning the front office to obtain him a larger receiver that can be used as a red-zone target. Sweed was supposed to be the guy, but he clearly can't catch a cold. They were widely thought to be in the market for a big receiver before the draft, but did not select one. I've been waiting to see this headline for weeks.

And at minimum they keep Ben happy cause they "talked to him".Whether they sign him or not. I'm guessing not.

I think if he'll sign a short-term deal for smallish $ in an attempt to rehab his value, they'll sign him. I'd be willing to bet that deep down, it's probably his first choice to go back to Pittsburgh (assuming money is equal wherever he's offered) and signing him would allow them to immediately cut Sweed and/or Randle-El. I imagine a 1 year, $1.5-$2 million deal or something like that would get him in the fold. I have no idea if anyone else is offering more years/money than that, I really have no gauge on what his perceived value is at the moment.

Agree, think it would be a nice spot for him to land but I'm not sure he will be a big splash in terms of production for owners this year.

Agreed. Maybe as a WR3 in TD-heavy leagues. I could see something like 42-560-7. Then again, I'm totally guessing in terms of what he has left in the tank after a couple years in the hoosegow. Seems like it made Vick a better player, though he's also a lot younger...

Oh sure EG but Vick didn't do much his 1st year out of prison. Being in shape and being in football shape are different obviously. I think those numbers you posted are probably about the best most could expect. A couple shots around the end zone most games and maybe 5-8 TDs if things went right but perhaps 35-40 receptions and a limited number of yards. I see no reason to really draft him until fairly late.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

This makes sense1. Veteran team that can all look after Plax

He doesn't need it. Plax gets a bum rap. He doesn't play the media game, which is a no-no in New York, but the coaches had no problem with him. Read the book about Ernie Accorsi's final year in New York. Plax was/is not a problem child. He had a really dumb accident, and they had to make an example of him because they literally had JUST passed the new law about guns in the city. This is not Chris Henry or Pacman Jones. The fact that both his former teams appear interested speaks volumes.Now, whether he still has speed or skill, is another matter.

True. He doesn't have a history of missing meetings and being disinterested at practices, nor being late.

He didn't in Pittsburgh. I think it was a clash between him and Coughlin more than anything else. Players on both New York and Pittsburgh seem to be pretty much unanimous, at least publicly, in favor of bringing him back/in.

 

[Evilgrin 72]

He and Ben remained friendly over the years. Ben has been petitioning the front office to obtain him a larger receiver that can be used as a red-zone target. Sweed was supposed to be the guy, but he clearly can't catch a cold. They were widely thought to be in the market for a big receiver before the draft, but did not select one. I've been waiting to see this headline for weeks.

And at minimum they keep Ben happy cause they "talked to him".Whether they sign him or not. I'm guessing not.

I think if he'll sign a short-term deal for smallish $ in an attempt to rehab his value, they'll sign him. I'd be willing to bet that deep down, it's probably his first choice to go back to Pittsburgh (assuming money is equal wherever he's offered) and signing him would allow them to immediately cut Sweed and/or Randle-El. I imagine a 1 year, $1.5-$2 million deal or something like that would get him in the fold. I have no idea if anyone else is offering more years/money than that, I really have no gauge on what his perceived value is at the moment.

Agree, think it would be a nice spot for him to land but I'm not sure he will be a big splash in terms of production for owners this year.

Agreed. Maybe as a WR3 in TD-heavy leagues. I could see something like 42-560-7. Then again, I'm totally guessing in terms of what he has left in the tank after a couple years in the hoosegow. Seems like it made Vick a better player, though he's also a lot younger...

Oh sure EG but Vick didn't do much his 1st year out of prison. Being in shape and being in football shape are different obviously. I think those numbers you posted are probably about the best most could expect. A couple shots around the end zone most games and maybe 5-8 TDs if things went right but perhaps 35-40 receptions and a limited number of yards. I see no reason to really draft him until fairly late.

No question. I wouldn't draft him except as a 4th or 5th receiver you plug in in a TD-heavy league and hope he gets some looks in the end zone. If you're drafting him to start on a week-by-week basis, there probably just aren't going to be a ton of balls going his way after Wallace, Ward, Sanders, Miller, et al get theirs. You're going to have to suffer through a lot of 2 and 3 point performances to get to a week where he maybe catches 1 or 2 in the end zone.Again, though, it's all guesswork at this point.

 

[netnalp]

How can he meet with Pittsburgh before Friday? Thought there was a rule preventing him from meeting with the Giants (and any other teams) till then.

They can talk, they just can't sign.

They can't talk till Friday, and it looks like he will meet with the Giants and the Steelers then. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6809115/plaxico-burress-likely-new-york-giants-pittsburgh-steelers

I stand corrected.

They can talk on the phone, they just can't meet face-to-face. Plax seems to want to have an in person heart-to-heart with Coughlin before making a decision.

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

This makes sense

1. Veteran team that can all look after Plax

He doesn't need it. Plax gets a bum rap. He doesn't play the media game, which is a no-no in New York, but the coaches had no problem with him. Read the book about Ernie Accorsi's final year in New York. Plax was/is not a problem child. He had a really dumb accident, and they had to make an example of him because they literally had JUST passed the new law about guns in the city. This is not Chris Henry or Pacman Jones. The fact that both his former teams appear interested speaks volumes.Now, whether he still has speed or skill, is another matter.

Very true...with that said, I thought there was some animosity in Plax's leaving Pitt the first time around...I remember some quote by Ward after they won the first SB that they could do it "without the big name WR"...directed at Plax. I'm not going to question a team like Pitt, but I wonder what the upside is, as he has a totally different skillset than that of Ward and would think Wallce is much closer to him in terms of skill (and much younger and more integrated in the system).

Plax definitely wanted more balls but what WR doesn't. This quote from Hines early this year sums it up:

"Plax is still our guy," Ward said Tuesday. "He's always going to be a Steeler, regardless if he won the Super Bowl with the Giants. There are still fans in Pittsburgh who wear his jersey. We love everything about him. We will accept him with open arms if that's the case."

"Hell, for all I know we will end up getting Plax on our team. He'll be welcomed with open arms if he wants to come back," Ward said. "If that presented itself and the Pittsburgh Steelers did bring Plaxico back, I would give him a big hug and we'll be right out there playing together."

Ward said he has not had any contact with Burress since the night he shot himself. But they were close friends when they played together.

"I wanted to go visit Plax in prison but I was a little shaky," he said. "I really didn't know how to approach that. I really just didn't want to get involved because I can't tell you how to live life. I love him to death, though."

Link

 

[sdurity]

Gut instinct, I don't like it for the Steelers. But reading the thread made me think it through a little more. He was a heck of a target. But the dollars have to be right: incentive-laden deal only. Steelers are over the cap.

 

[DawgPoundNJ]

This makes sense1. Veteran team that can all look after Plax

He doesn't need it. Plax gets a bum rap. He doesn't play the media game, which is a no-no in New York, but the coaches had no problem with him. Read the book about Ernie Accorsi's final year in New York. Plax was/is not a problem child. He had a really dumb accident, and they had to make an example of him because they literally had JUST passed the new law about guns in the city. This is not Chris Henry or Pacman Jones. The fact that both his former teams appear interested speaks volumes.Now, whether he still has speed or skill, is another matter.

True. He doesn't have a history of missing meetings and being disinterested at practices, nor being late.

He didn't in Pittsburgh. I think it was a clash between him and Coughlin more than anything else. Players on both New York and Pittsburgh seem to be pretty much unanimous, at least publicly, in favor of bringing him back/in.

Just more refuting the point than anything else. Would I love Plax on the Browns this year? Absolutely.

 

[Faust]

Plaxico Burress to Giants, Steelers?

It appears likely that Plaxico Burress will be playing for one of his two former teams, the New York Giants or the Pittsburgh Steelers, according to team and league sources.

After a dinner with Giants coach Tom Coughlin on Friday night, Burress plans to fly to Pittsburgh to meet with coach Mike Tomlin, sources said.

Sources believe only a productive, fence-mending meeting between Burress and Coughlin stands between the wide receiver rejoining the Giants and making more than $10 million over two years.

However, Tomlin expects to make his own strong sales pitch for Burress to join the Steelers, who made him a first-round draft choice out of Michigan State in 2000, sources added.

The Philadelphia Eagles and New York Jets also have expressed varying degrees of interest in Burress, according to sources.

Burress traveled to New York on Tuesday night via a private jet courtesy of billionaire Seth Bernstein, who is serving as an unofficial broker between the wide receiver and the Giants, sources said. Bernstein is CEO of Empower Software Solutions and is a friend of Giants co-owner Steve Tisch.

Burress had hoped to meet with Couglin Wednesday, but NFL spokesman Greg Aiello told ESPNNewYork.com that the new league rules do not allow free agents to meet with teams, even at a neutral site, until the free-agent signing period begins at 6 p.m. ET Friday.

The New York Post reported Wednesday that Burress will fly back to Florida to resume training.

Bernstein made an independent pitch Tuesday night to Burress and also to Burress' former teammate, Michael Strahan, who has said he believes a return to the Giants would be too great of a distraction for the team and the player. By the end of the evening, sources say Bernstein had made a persuasive case for the reunion. The Giants released Burress in April 2009 after a nightclub gun incident late in the 2008 season led to a self-inflicted leg wound and the receiver's imprisonment.

The Giants have talked of paying Burress in the range of $10.5 million over two years, approximately 60 percent in salary and bonuses with the balance earned on play-time performance and incentives. Terms remain negotiable, sources said.

While Burress has been contrite since his release from jail, he has had harsh words about his prior relationship with Coughlin. Sources say Bernstein convinced Burress that Coughlin is the right coach and the Giants are the right organization for the receiver's re-entry into the NFL. Coughlin fined Burress repeatedly for team rules violations.

Burress also frustrated others within the organization, including quarterabck Eli Manning, for his failure to practice on a regular basis, but his big-game performances were lauded by all when the Giants won the Super Bowl in 2007.

Coughlin also has stated that his desire is for Burress to grow as a husband, father and community man now that he has been released from jail.

Coughlin and Burress were unavailable for comment. Attempts to reach Drew Rosenhaus, Burress' agent, were unsuccessful.

One Giant said Wednesday that he would love to see Burress back in blue.

"It'll be another match made in heaven," defensive end Justin Tuck said.

"I know this team would love to see him back," Tuck said, adding that he had spoken to Burress. "I don't see there being any other place for him to be (rather) than here in New York. But he has to do what's best for him and his family, and that's what I'd advise him to do."

Tuck hopes Coughlin and Burress can work out their differences.

"I can't speak for Plax or Tom, but it's been well documented that they have bumped heads in the past, so hopefully a little time apart can rekindle that love that they shared for each other," he said.

 

[CrossEyed]

Gut instinct, I don't like it for the Steelers. But reading the thread made me think it through a little more. He was a heck of a target. But the dollars have to be right: incentive-laden deal only. Steelers are over the cap.

Dump ARE and sign Plax.

 

[Tango]

There are two primary components to a projection:

1. The point estimate (# catches, # of yds, # of TDs, etc.)

2. the variability around that estimate

High risk and high variability are attributes in fantasy footnall...unless you want to land in the middle of the pack. Decent guys with high variability win championships or land you in last place. Low variable guys usually go at value and land you in the middle of the pack of the standings. I'd rather have a chance of winning a championship than being in the middle of the pack

Burress looks like one of the top high variability guys this year...as Owens was last year (Id like to think of a high variability failure from last year, but cant come up with one at the moment).

So, if you're like me and you draft not only for the stat projection, but also the variability...then Burress may move up fast on draft boards if signed by NYG or, less so, PIT; his draft position should be much higher than his straight yds/TD projection.

 

[sdurity]

Gut instinct, I don't like it for the Steelers. But reading the thread made me think it through a little more. He was a heck of a target. But the dollars have to be right: incentive-laden deal only. Steelers are over the cap.

Dump ARE and sign Plax.

That's a plan I could go for! ARE doesn't have any shake left.

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Gut instinct, I don't like it for the Steelers. But reading the thread made me think it through a little more. He was a heck of a target. But the dollars have to be right: incentive-laden deal only. Steelers are over the cap.

Dump ARE and sign Plax.

That's a plan I could go for! ARE doesn't have any shake left.

but who would fair catch on every punt? won't someone think of the children?

 

[Yenrub]

He and Ben remained friendly over the years. Ben has been petitioning the front office to obtain him a larger receiver that can be used as a red-zone target. Sweed was supposed to be the guy, but he clearly can't catch a cold. They were widely thought to be in the market for a big receiver before the draft, but did not select one. I've been waiting to see this headline for weeks.

And at minimum they keep Ben happy cause they "talked to him".Whether they sign him or not. I'm guessing not.

I think if he'll sign a short-term deal for smallish $ in an attempt to rehab his value, they'll sign him. I'd be willing to bet that deep down, it's probably his first choice to go back to Pittsburgh (assuming money is equal wherever he's offered) and signing him would allow them to immediately cut Sweed and/or Randle-El. I imagine a 1 year, $1.5-$2 million deal or something like that would get him in the fold. I have no idea if anyone else is offering more years/money than that, I really have no gauge on what his perceived value is at the moment.ETA : Just read Giants offered 2 years at around $6.5 million, with another $4 million possible in incentives. I can't imagine the Steelers will offer that, so Plax will likely have to decide whether he wants back in PIT for less. My guess is he re-signs with the Giants.

Where did you find the Giants offer?

 

[5-ish Finkle]

And at minimum they keep Ben happy cause they "talked to him".

Whether they sign him or not. I'm guessing not.

This.I'm not really buying it.

They basically gave away Holmes a year ago for "being a knucklehead" and then they're going to turn around and bring in the Professor of Knuckleheads 101? Just because he didn't "miss 40 meetings when he was a Steeler" doesn't mean that he wasn't generally a douchehorse in his time in Pittsburgh.

I'm sure Plax would love to come back to Pittsburgh, given that he's unemployed at present, and I'd wager Ben would be happy the have him back since he's consistently brought his name up since he's been gone....but I'd wager that Plax's mood about that might change when he found out he A)wasn't being brought in to start, or B)may get snaps taken away by Manny Sanders(very likely) or Antonio Brown(less likely in '11, but still possible).

In all honesty I've never been a fan of his, hated it when the Steelers drafted him over Urlacher, and wasn't sad when he took his skillet mitts to greener pastures. That all aside(and I readily admit he improved his game some after leaving Pittsburgh), the dude hasn't played football in two years and the Steelers have what appear to be at least two, maybe three(jury's still out on Brown), young talented WRs that I'd rather Plaxico not get in the way of developing.

Unless the guy has become a completely different person after his ordeal, which I suppose is possible, I can't see him being happy as a "backup." Steelers don't need that distraction.

 

[Franknbeans]

He and Ben remained friendly over the years. Ben has been petitioning the front office to obtain him a larger receiver that can be used as a red-zone target. Sweed was supposed to be the guy, but he clearly can't catch a cold. They were widely thought to be in the market for a big receiver before the draft, but did not select one. I've been waiting to see this headline for weeks.

And at minimum they keep Ben happy cause they "talked to him".Whether they sign him or not. I'm guessing not.

I think if he'll sign a short-term deal for smallish $ in an attempt to rehab his value, they'll sign him. I'd be willing to bet that deep down, it's probably his first choice to go back to Pittsburgh (assuming money is equal wherever he's offered) and signing him would allow them to immediately cut Sweed and/or Randle-El. I imagine a 1 year, $1.5-$2 million deal or something like that would get him in the fold. I have no idea if anyone else is offering more years/money than that, I really have no gauge on what his perceived value is at the moment.ETA : Just read Giants offered 2 years at around $6.5 million, with another $4 million possible in incentives. I can't imagine the Steelers will offer that, so Plax will likely have to decide whether he wants back in PIT for less. My guess is he re-signs with the Giants.

I agree. Pitt is too mfar up against the cap to make an offer in that range and didn't Plaxico leave Pitt in the first place because he wanted to be in a more wide open offense? As much as I'd like to see him back in balck and gold, I just don't see this happening unless Plaxico really wants to make another Superbowl run.

 

[CrossEyed]

ARE released. Makes this seem a little more like a possibility.