Player Spotlight: Chad Ochocinco (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

2009 Player Spotlight Series

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Thread Topic: Chad Ochocinco, WR, Cincinnati Bengals

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[Blackjacks]

I see Ocho returning to his studness this year

90 catches

1350 yards (15 ypc)

7 td's

He has that look in his eye this year

grabbing LJ in the 3rd and Ocho in the 6th could set up your team nicely

 

[rzrback77]

Last season Chad O had injury difficulties and was missing his QB. Before that, he finished as WR 3, 9, 4, 4, and 6. This season Palmer is supposed to be healthy, TJ Housh is gone, and Chad O has an ADP of WR20 and 58 overall. This screams bargain to me.

Chad O has averaged 92 receptions over a five year period, not counting last year so he looks pretty solid as WR20. I think that he and Palmer both bounce back nicely in 09.

Chad Ochocinco 150 targets 90 catches 60% 1305 yards 14.5 ypc 8 TDs

 

[Blackjacks]

Last season Chad O had injury difficulties and was missing his QB. Before that, he finished as WR 3, 9, 4, 4, and 6. This season Palmer is supposed to be healthy, TJ Housh is gone, and Chad O has an ADP of WR20 and 58 overall. This screams bargain to me.Chad O has averaged 92 receptions over a five year period, not counting last year so he looks pretty solid as WR20. I think that he and Palmer both bounce back nicely in 09.Chad Ochocinco 150 targets 90 catches 60% 1305 yards 14.5 ypc 8 TDs

STOP COPYING MY PROJECTIONS (lol)

 

[rzrback77]

Last season Chad O had injury difficulties and was missing his QB. Before that, he finished as WR 3, 9, 4, 4, and 6. This season Palmer is supposed to be healthy, TJ Housh is gone, and Chad O has an ADP of WR20 and 58 overall. This screams bargain to me.Chad O has averaged 92 receptions over a five year period, not counting last year so he looks pretty solid as WR20. I think that he and Palmer both bounce back nicely in 09.Chad Ochocinco 150 targets 90 catches 60% 1305 yards 14.5 ypc 8 TDs

STOP COPYING MY PROJECTIONS (lol)

I usually don't read what others say prior to making the projections. You and I have been very close on more than a couple of occassions. Hopefully, close together and correct.

 

[VTjkru]

I'll believe any projection anyone wants to make on Chad. They should all come with the caveat that those numbers will all come from 4 or 5 games and the rest of his games will be sub par at best. Hide and Go Seek Chad.

 

[Tanner9919]

I see Ocho returning to his studness this year90 catches1350 yards (15 ypc)7 td'sHe has that look in his eye this yeargrabbing LJ in the 3rd and Ocho in the 6th could set up your team nicely

I agree..but I'm going to say his TD totals will be higher than 7,more like 9-10 IMO.

 

[MAC_32]

I'll believe any projection anyone wants to make on Chad. They should all come with the caveat that those numbers will all come from 4 or 5 games and the rest of his games will be sub par at best. Hide and Go Seek Chad.

Chad Johnson owners will loath him in 2010, his non-owners will see 'value' due to his end-game numbers and take him too early again. He may fall far enough this season to make the headache worth it though.

 

[akaoni]

I'll believe any projection anyone wants to make on Chad. They should all come with the caveat that those numbers will all come from 4 or 5 games and the rest of his games will be sub par at best. Hide and Go Seek Chad.

Chad Johnson owners will loath him in 2010, his non-owners will see 'value' due to his end-game numbers and take him too early again. He may fall far enough this season to make the headache worth it though.

As a multiple time Chad OC owner I'll attest to this (I wish I knew how to quit you ). In the past he has been hugely frustrating because of his inconsistency. He'll put ups 12-185 and 3 TDs one week only to put up 3-28 the next. For two games that's great production, but it's so unpredictable that it's very irritating. That said, if Chad falls to the 5th or 6th in a 12 player redraft, he becomes a good value pick.

 

[LarryAllen'sJockstrap]

I do see somewhat of a bounce back seasons, I just don't see a return to elite form for Chad. Nothing concrete here, but if I had to guess, the days of 90 cathes/1350 yards are over.

77 Catches

1078 Yards Receiving

7 TDs

 

[H.K.]

Ochocinco on 2008 Offseason: 'I Didn't Lift One Weight, Run One Route'

Posted Jun 06, 2009 10:40PM By Chris Burke (RSS feed)

Here's a revelation that ought to help Chad Ochocinco shed the label of being a "Me First" kind of player.

During an interview on the NFL Network, Ochocinco was asked to explain his miserable 2008 season -- the worst, statistically, of his career aside from his 2001 rookie campaign. His answer not only explained Ochocinco's struggles, but also went a long way to providing some reasoning for his sudden and lingering injury issues last year.

"I'm not even going to lie to you, I'm going to say it. Last year, the offseason, I didn't lift one weight, I didn't run one route, I didn't exercise. I didn't do nothing because my focus was on getting out of a situation I didn't want to be in. I'm not going to lie," Ochocinco said.

"And the result of my season, whether we as a team did bad or not, that's what I get. I get hurt in the preseason. I didn't lift no weights. If I had been on my right regiment, I guarantee you my collarbone, my shoulder wouldn't pop out of place. The ankle surgery, you know."

Ancient history? Maybe. But stuff like this is a big enough red flag to prevent me from trusting him. He could catch 90 or he could catch 50....either way he won't be doing it on my roster.

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[QuizGuy66]

I'm a Bengals fan and I have to say I'm at a complete loss as to what to project for Chad.

Positives:

1) (So far) a much much better mental attitude toward the offseason. Whether it's a desire to play and bounce back or simply hearing footsteps of the guys who actually went to all of the OTAs, the fact that Chad showed up to any of them is encouraging.

2) Along with 1, it sounds like he's back to his old approach in terms of conditioning so perhaps he won't have some of the nagging injuries he did last year.

3) Healthy Carson

4) Potential for improved OL play with the drafting of Smith and the other changes that were made. Hell, it can't be worse than what was there. With Palmer avoiding a broken nose this can only help the Ocho.

Negatives:

1) He's not the young guy he once was. The loss of step he showed last year could be permanent.

2) While you'd have to figure his high number of targets would resume, the overall WR corps for the Bengals is now deeper. Henry and Caldwell could eat into things a little with Coles taking a Housh-like number. If he flakes out, the concept of Henry supplanting him as the X is not ridiculous.

3) Chase Coffman gets his own item. If he develops over camp he could become a serious vulture to Chad's goalline opportunities.

I guess I'd take his better years and go a little lower than that. Something like 81-1300 with 6 TDs.

-QG

 

[Swampy]

I dont think his numbers will be that bad off.... 90-95 recept 1200-1400 8-9 tds, but with all of that 3-4 games of zero production