Player Spotlight: Darren McFadden (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

2009 Player Spotlight Series

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Thread Topic: Darren McFadden, RB, Oakland Raiders

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[travdogg]

I'm a huge McFadden fan. He's likely to end up on any team I draft. His rookie year was bit of a washout, but he's BY FAR the best RB on the Raiders and it sounds like they are realizing that this off season. His only obstacles are being in a RBBC, but that also allows to be available in the 4th round. In McFadden, I see an elite pass catcher, and elite perimeter runner and an above average inside runner. He may or may not get goal line carries, but he'll find the end zone a fair amount regardless. If everything breaks right, I could see him being this year's break out player of the year. I think he could exceed the numbers I'm projecting and I expect those projections to be higher than most.

My Projections: 225 carries, 1,000 yards and 6 TD's.

55 catches, 500 yards and 2 TD's

1,500 total yards and 8 TD's.

 

[SugarNuts]

I'm a huge McFadden fan. He's likely to end up on any team I draft. His rookie year was bit of a washout, but he's BY FAR the best RB on the Raiders and it sounds like they are realizing that this off season. His only obstacles are being in a RBBC, but that also allows to be available in the 4th round. In McFadden, I see an elite pass catcher, and elite perimeter runner and an above average inside runner. He may or may not get goal line carries, but he'll find the end zone a fair amount regardless. If everything breaks right, I could see him being this year's break out player of the year. I think he could exceed the numbers I'm projecting and I expect those projections to be higher than most.

My Projections: 225 carries, 1,000 yards and 6 TD's.

55 catches, 500 yards and 2 TD's

1,500 total yards and 8 TD's.

Michael Bush holds that title.

 

[travdogg]

I'm a huge McFadden fan. He's likely to end up on any team I draft. His rookie year was bit of a washout, but he's BY FAR the best RB on the Raiders and it sounds like they are realizing that this off season. His only obstacles are being in a RBBC, but that also allows to be available in the 4th round. In McFadden, I see an elite pass catcher, and elite perimeter runner and an above average inside runner. He may or may not get goal line carries, but he'll find the end zone a fair amount regardless. If everything breaks right, I could see him being this year's break out player of the year. I think he could exceed the numbers I'm projecting and I expect those projections to be higher than most.

My Projections: 225 carries, 1,000 yards and 6 TD's.

55 catches, 500 yards and 2 TD's

1,500 total yards and 8 TD's.

Michael Bush holds that title.

Thanks, that's kind of what I'm getting at, there is a large portion of people who believe in Michael Bush so much that McFadden is bound to fall to round 4 or 5 in many drafts.The Bush love is odd to me, outside of short yardage I can't think of anything he as well asMcFadden. I like Bush, but I think he'll be the Jacobs to McFadden's Barber or the LenDale to McFadden's CJ3 so to speak.

I don't really see why people like Bush so much. He had 1 great game the worst defenses in the NFL at that point last season. ANY NFL RB goes could have gone for 125+ against Tampa down the stretch. Hell, Carolina put 2 guys over. That's really the only big game Bush has had and I'd very much argue its far less impressive then McFadden's week 2 against the Chiefs where he had a bum shoulder/toe and came out in the 3rd quarter.

Not saying Bush is a bum, just that he is an inferior player. If McFadden goes down, Bush could very well be a quality starter, like McFadden is now, but unless that happens...

I think McFadden will be a quality RB2 this season and can be a RB1 in some leagues especially if you go WR or QB early.

 

[MAC_32]

The only thing I don't like about DMC is that he's a Raider. Some point to Michael Bush as an obstacle, I think his presence is great for DMC. I don't think DMC is any good between the tackles, an area of the game in which Bush excels. They compliment each other perfectly. I look at this situation as New Orleans lite w/DMC = Reggie Bush and Michael Bush = Pierre Thomas. The difference? New Orleans has a passing game, that should lead to less scoring opps for Oakland but a higher % of touches for DMC + Bush, but these two should be cheaper than the New Orleans duo.

DMC may be a bit of a headache for owners, he'll blow up one week and not do much the next, but if he's drafted as the RB3 I expect I'd expect to be happy with him.

 

[Phalic0192]

As a life long Razorback fan I can testament to the fact that McFadden was very bothered by his bum toe. Then right after his right toe healed the other foot developed turf toe around week 10. I think its the shoes. All players in the NFL have to wear Reebok, i think, which might be a problem for some players. But then it could be a reoccurance of him kicking a car door his sophomore year.

Here is the thing about McFadden. He is extremely quick and fast. His lateral movement isn't amazing, but he makes up for it with being very decisive in his cuts. On Iso plays, he hits the hole whether it is there or not as fast as he can. So, I would like to see some patience from him in this regard and use his vision to set up linebackers and safeties that seem to read him like a book. On the flip side this quality allows him to break long runs with the slightest amount of alley. With his turf toe problem he wasn't able to gain traction with that steel plate and his quickness/acceleration was diminished. To me, the turf toe took away his one quality about him that is elite.

I think McFadden develops into the leader of this team. He can seemingly will himself to do better during big games and motivate his teammates. I can envision a 220-240 carry season for about 1100-1250 yards. Fargas and Bush will get a little over 200 carries between themselves. I just think that McFadden will be the Raiders only consistent threat on offense and even Tom Cable can realize it. I think McFadden gets about 7 total TDs. I am just a little worried about the Raider franchise and its ability to drain talent for long periods of time. So my homerism says to me that McFadden could be a top 6 RB when all is said and done. But, I think he finishes around RB16 or so.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

I love McFadden, but hate his situation. He has the speed and moves that can be utilized in open space to make big plays. He has good hands and will see frequent use in screen situations, and will likely be used in the Wildcat as well. If the Raiders can improve on both sides we could see a real good season, but not great just yet.

210 - 1008 - 6 rush and 48 - 336 - 1 rec.

 

[gheemony]

Was hoping to read some good information, but not much here. Is it because McFadden's prospects are an enigma? I certainly don't know whether he's a stud or a bust.

 

[Dave Larkin]

Darren McFadden is a player that sort of slips under some owner's radars as we approach the 2009 season. It's not because he doesn't have the ability; we all know he is a quality back who produced big games at Arkansas. In 2008, one game stuck out for me (@ Kansas City) early in the season. I realise that KC's defense wasn't the best in that particular game, but McFadden showed how he can take over a game if used the right way.

That is something the Raiders have to really experiment with. Sure, McFadden can run between the tackles, but it's in space that he is at his most dangerous. With only Justin Fargas in the backfield to share carries with him, McFadden has the chance to have a breakout season. I don't think he will be productive enough to be considered a RB2, however. A strong RB3? Definitely. That said, he has the potential to produce like a RB2.

In 2008, McFadden produced the following numbers in 13 games, having started 5.

113 car, 499 yds, 4 TD

29 rec, 285 yds

In 2009, my projections for him are:

180 car, 885 yds, 7 TD

45 rec, 600 yds, 3 TD

The Raiders, if they use McFadden in their offensive packages in the right way, and Russell can develop chemistry with him, can have these kinds of numbers in 2009. Still, I am wary of McFadden until I see him actually do it on the field.

 

[az_prof]

I'm a huge McFadden fan. He's likely to end up on any team I draft. His rookie year was bit of a washout, but he's BY FAR the best RB on the Raiders and it sounds like they are realizing that this off season. His only obstacles are being in a RBBC, but that also allows to be available in the 4th round. In McFadden, I see an elite pass catcher, and elite perimeter runner and an above average inside runner. He may or may not get goal line carries, but he'll find the end zone a fair amount regardless. If everything breaks right, I could see him being this year's break out player of the year. I think he could exceed the numbers I'm projecting and I expect those projections to be higher than most.

My Projections: 225 carries, 1,000 yards and 6 TD's.

55 catches, 500 yards and 2 TD's

1,500 total yards and 8 TD's.

Michael Bush holds that title.

Thanks, that's kind of what I'm getting at, there is a large portion of people who believe in Michael Bush so much that McFadden is bound to fall to round 4 or 5 in many drafts.The Bush love is odd to me, outside of short yardage I can't think of anything he as well asMcFadden. I like Bush, but I think he'll be the Jacobs to McFadden's Barber or the LenDale to McFadden's CJ3 so to speak.

I don't really see why people like Bush so much. He had 1 great game the worst defenses in the NFL at that point last season. ANY NFL RB goes could have gone for 125+ against Tampa down the stretch. Hell, Carolina put 2 guys over. That's really the only big game Bush has had and I'd very much argue its far less impressive then McFadden's week 2 against the Chiefs where he had a bum shoulder/toe and came out in the 3rd quarter.

Not saying Bush is a bum, just that he is an inferior player. If McFadden goes down, Bush could very well be a quality starter, like McFadden is now, but unless that happens...

I think McFadden will be a quality RB2 this season and can be a RB1 in some leagues especially if you go WR or QB early.

It's just my opinion, but I watched both guys alot last year because I am cursed to live in Oakland viewing region--and I thought that Bush looked better. Also, word out of camp is that Bush is looking even faster this year now that he is three years removed from that nasty broken leg. McFadden's skinny legs still bother me too--I just don't think he will hold up in the NFL for long.

 

[a_troll00]

McFadden still needs to show he can be a feature back in this league. Right now, I'm not even sure he's the best back on his team. He will have to drop quite a bit before I consider drafting him.

 

[Avery]

Was hoping to read some good information, but not much here. Is it because McFadden's prospects are an enigma? I certainly don't know whether he's a stud or a bust.

He was a top RB prospect who was hampered by an injury plagued rookie year on a horrific offensive team.There's really not much new information to be had.

 

[krsone21]

The reports out of camp so far is that he is looking really good. I think the people sleeping on Darren McFadden are really going to regret it this year. There is talk that the Raiders might have him QB in the "Wildcat" formation more this year something that he perfected while at Arkansas. Don't sleep on him, especially in leagues that reward for PPR for RB's.

Rushing: 205 attempts, 923 yards, 7 TD's

Receiving: 58 Catches, 571 yards, 3 TD's

Total: 263 touches, 1494 yards, 10 TD's

 

[Sir Psycho]

Darren McFadden is a player that sort of slips under some owner's radars as we approach the 2009 season. It's not because he doesn't have the ability; we all know he is a quality back who produced big games at Arkansas. In 2008, one game stuck out for me (@ Kansas City) early in the season. I realise that KC's defense wasn't the best in that particular game, but McFadden showed how he can take over a game if used the right way.

That is something the Raiders have to really experiment with. Sure, McFadden can run between the tackles, but it's in space that he is at his most dangerous. With only Justin Fargas in the backfield to share carries with him, McFadden has the chance to have a breakout season. I don't think he will be productive enough to be considered a RB2, however. A strong RB3? Definitely. That said, he has the potential to produce like a RB2.

In 2008, McFadden produced the following numbers in 13 games, having started 5.

113 car, 499 yds, 4 TD

29 rec, 285 yds

In 2009, my projections for him are:

180 car, 885 yds, 7 TD

45 rec, 600 yds, 3 TD

The Raiders, if they use McFadden in their offensive packages in the right way, and Russell can develop chemistry with him, can have these kinds of numbers in 2009. Still, I am wary of McFadden until I see him actually do it on the field.

Micheal Bush down ?

 

[JAA]

Darren McFadden is a player that sort of slips under some owner's radars as we approach the 2009 season. It's not because he doesn't have the ability; we all know he is a quality back who produced big games at Arkansas. In 2008, one game stuck out for me (@ Kansas City) early in the season. I realise that KC's defense wasn't the best in that particular game, but McFadden showed how he can take over a game if used the right way.

That is something the Raiders have to really experiment with. Sure, McFadden can run between the tackles, but it's in space that he is at his most dangerous. With only Justin Fargas in the backfield to share carries with him, McFadden has the chance to have a breakout season. I don't think he will be productive enough to be considered a RB2, however. A strong RB3? Definitely. That said, he has the potential to produce like a RB2.

In 2008, McFadden produced the following numbers in 13 games, having started 5.

113 car, 499 yds, 4 TD

29 rec, 285 yds

In 2009, my projections for him are:

180 car, 885 yds, 7 TD

45 rec, 600 yds, 3 TD

The Raiders, if they use McFadden in their offensive packages in the right way, and Russell can develop chemistry with him, can have these kinds of numbers in 2009. Still, I am wary of McFadden until I see him actually do it on the field.

Micheal Bush down ?

Not if you play in a mandatory 1 FB league ...

 

[Dave Larkin]

Darren McFadden is a player that sort of slips under some owner's radars as we approach the 2009 season. It's not because he doesn't have the ability; we all know he is a quality back who produced big games at Arkansas. In 2008, one game stuck out for me (@ Kansas City) early in the season. I realise that KC's defense wasn't the best in that particular game, but McFadden showed how he can take over a game if used the right way.

That is something the Raiders have to really experiment with. Sure, McFadden can run between the tackles, but it's in space that he is at his most dangerous. With only Justin Fargas in the backfield to share carries with him, McFadden has the chance to have a breakout season. I don't think he will be productive enough to be considered a RB2, however. A strong RB3? Definitely. That said, he has the potential to produce like a RB2.

In 2008, McFadden produced the following numbers in 13 games, having started 5.

113 car, 499 yds, 4 TD

29 rec, 285 yds

In 2009, my projections for him are:

180 car, 885 yds, 7 TD

45 rec, 600 yds, 3 TD

The Raiders, if they use McFadden in their offensive packages in the right way, and Russell can develop chemistry with him, can have these kinds of numbers in 2009. Still, I am wary of McFadden until I see him actually do it on the field.

Micheal Bush down ?

Whoops, my bad. Must have slipped my mind.

 

[ninerfanatic492000]

the reason so many have faith in Michael Bush when he shows flashes is b/c before he terribly broke his leg years ago he was simply amazing. his stock was only surpassed by Adrian Peterson's(and not by much). he simply had everything, and could do anything. of course he may never be that guy again. same goes for Mcfadden with suffering Turf Toe injuries in both feet now. where i see it as Mcfadden's only true talent was his freak'n awesome explosive burst. i have never seen him as a natural pass catcher. even tho neither did it extensively........ i kinda thought Felix was a better receiver. besides the obvious RBBC i for-see....... i also see mcfadden's stats being stunted that he can never the RB in 1RB sets that require him to block b/c he's atrocious. the other issue i have on mcfadden is(this is where i will be flamed for sure and i could totally be mistaken) that either he has a very poor IQ or he is the worst TV interview. it could be he's extremely nervous on TV(as i guess i would be as well), but he does not come off overly intelligent. if the case he luckily plays the right position i guess.

googled his wonderlic, he scored a 17 reportedly. well that probably doubled Emmitt's score..........so i imagine he'll be fine

 

[rzrback77]

I have a lot of trouble making projections for Darren McFadden because of how often I witnessed his greatness in college. I expect a real come-back performance this year, but that may not result in outstanding stats because the Raiders will use all three RBs and their offense is just not dynamic.

I think that McFadden will have several great games and many sportscenter moments this year, but he could disappoint his fantasy owners. I do think that he will play more and be injured less, but that is an opinion and perspective issue.

Darren McFadden 200 carries 990 yds 4.95 ypc 60 targets 42 catches for 400 yds 9.5 ypc and 7 TDs

 

[Jon_Moore]

McFadden only averaged 4 yards a carry or more in 4 out of 13 games played. He only broke 100 yards rushing once in those 13 games. I realize he only got 20 carries one time, but the 2 combined factors screams inconsistency. The Raiders are a bad offensive team, and I don't see too many reasons to expect great things out of them this season. Jamarcus Russell hasn't shown he can be a good quarterback at this level. They drafted Hayward-Bey in the 1st round, but is he going to be good enought o keep defenses honest? Then you have to be concerned about competition for touches from both Justin Fargas and Michael Bush. Fargas has been a very fine football player, and I don't see him just up and disappearing, and Bush had his moments.

174 Rushes

731 Yards

6 Touchdowns

38 Receptions

274 Yards

 

[Addai's Adidas]

McFadden is a good running back. Deal with it.

 

[Blackjacks]

McFadden is a good running back. Deal with it.

McFadden is a good running back on a bad team which will hurt his end of the year stats....deal with it.

 

[mdog1967]

McFadden is a good running back. Deal with it.

McFadden is a good running back on a bad team which will hurt his end of the year stats....deal with it.

 

[Addai's Adidas]

McFadden is a good running back. Deal with it.

McFadden is a good running back on a bad team which will hurt his end of the year stats....deal with it.

It was an Al Davis joke.

 

[Buffaloes]

McFadden is a good running back. Deal with it.

McFadden is a good running back on a bad team which will hurt his end of the year stats....deal with it.

Oakland was actually a decent rushing team last year finishing 10th in rushing yards per game and 10th in yards per carry. What hurt McFadden's production was his turf toe. Not an inept offense. I don't really have any reservations when it comes to the Oakland offense and running the ball. It's how McFadden responds to turf toe on both feet that gives me pause.

 

[todisco1]

220 carries 940 yds, 7 TDs 48 catches 310 yds, 2 TDs.

 

[Joe Paterno]

Never really liked him--thought he was overrated since the Cotton Bowl against Mizzou.

He'll get the carries, because the Raiders are too stubborn--but I see something bad like 250 carries, 870 yards and 3 TDs. 20 catches, 100 yards, 1 TD. Not much, kids.

 

[brobe4]

200 carries 860 yds 8 tds

30 catches 140 yds 2 tds

Dmac stock heading up

 

[cstu]

Never really liked him--thought he was overrated since the Cotton Bowl against Mizzou.He'll get the carries, because the Raiders are too stubborn--but I see something bad like 250 carries, 870 yards and 3 TDs. 20 catches, 100 yards, 1 TD. Not much, kids.

On what basis are you predicting that he'll have 9 FEWER catches than last year? Much less at 5 YPC when he averaged nearly 10 YPC.

 

[jurb26]

I'm a huge McFadden fan and can't wait to see this guy run fully healthy in the NFL. Will that be this year? I don't know. Turf toe scares the daylights out of me. It sounds as though McFadden has been taking the proper precautions this off-season so I'm optimistic. But then there is the concern of him playing in Oakland. Well there could be a silver lining to that (no pun intended) as crazy Al my instruct the coaching staff to force feed the ball to his lead horse. Ah, but we also have Russell at QB. :X Well, this seems to be the make or break year for Russell and I'm glad to see Oak took matters into their own hands by bringing in Garcia for insurance. Even knowing all these concerns I'm very bullish on McFadden this year. Oak has proven the ability to run the ball despite loosing games and otherwise being an inept football team. McFadden has proven to be a versatile weapon and great at catching the ball out of the back field. So I think as long as he is on the field he will get his fair share of opportunities in 2009.

260 rushes, 1120 yds, 52 receptions, 335 yds, 9 TDs

 

[Masked Vigilante]

I'm cautiously optimistic about McFadden this year. He struggled last year with injuries but showed glimpses of fantasy gold (KC game). Any Raider fans have insight on how he's looked so far in camp?

He has the talent and opportunity to post a monster season.

279 carries 1242 yards 4.5 YPC 9 TD 40 rec 388 yards 3 TD

 

[JamesTheScot]

I'm cautiously optimistic about McFadden this year. He struggled last year with injuries but showed glimpses of fantasy gold (KC game). Any Raider fans have insight on how he's looked so far in camp? He has the talent and opportunity to post a monster season.279 carries 1242 yards 4.5 YPC 9 TD 40 rec 388 yards 3 TD

Not a Raider fan but the rotoworld blurbs have all indicated that Cable and the Raiders intend to get him more involved this season so it sounds like he could be used as more of a feature back this season rather than just a member of the RBBC. But that could be coach-speak so take it with agrain of salt. If he's healthy and these blurbs are true, I believe he easily puts up RB2 numbers because the Raiders can run the ball pretty effectively despite the pathetic passing game they have. I am not as high on McFadden as a talent as some are. But if they give him the touches and he can stay healthy, I think his situation combined with his talent produces good fantasy numbers. His talent + opportunity also make it possible (thought not probable) that he becomes one of the surprise initiates into the top 10 or 12 this season.

 

[pantherclub]

His ADP (antsports) is 5.03, which is incredibly too high for my tastes. Not saying he doesnt have talent just that he hasnt really produced yet and is going to be on one of the worst teams in the NFL.

 

[flintpanthers]

His ADP (antsports) is 5.03, which is incredibly too high for my tastes. Not saying he doesnt have talent just that he hasnt really produced yet and is going to be on one of the worst teams in the NFL.

I don't even understand the argument. He will be the feature back on a team that CAN run the football. Turf toe problems? It was a shoe problem that has since been corrected. He will not simply come out on passing downs as he is an able reciever and one of their fastest players. He is a one cut and gone guy. That is not a negative that is a great thing. Bush will be a part of this offense no doubt. But the one thing this team can do is run. Bush will not have starter points, but he will get his share of work. Leaving him in the J.Stewart role. I am fine with that. Keep McFadden on the field and good things are bound to happen. He will not put up the numbers D.Williams put up, but that is the role he looks to have. So he is the P.Thomas of Oakland. Great, but he has more up side. The fact that he can be drafted as a RB#3 just makes it that much easier to put him on any roster. 265-1190-9 and 55-440-3. Bush 150-600-8. Fargus will be phased out for the most part with numbers not fantasy relavvent. I am sorry and what WR#2 are you taking that has that much upside?

 

[two_dollars]

he wouldn't be tough to handcuff, Bush's adp is pretty low.

 

[flintpanthers]

And reason #1000 why to draft McFadden(ty-twodollars). His handcuff can be taken late. After J.Stewart, after C.Taylor, After McCoy, after Mendenhall, etc. He has top ten potential. He may not finish there, but who can really say. For every Forte, Slaton, D.Williams there are Grants, L.Johnsons, W.Parkers. Each year there is a new group that emerges. The trick is to find that guy who will and get him later. Hitting that sleeper is what makes teams win championships. Not a gaurantee that McFadden is that guy, but he does have the potential to do so. Which by taking him as your #3 you are not investing a #1 value in him.

 

[treat88]

As many as are underrating McFadden, an equal number are overestimating Bush.

 

[travdogg]

As many as are underrating McFadden, an equal number are overestimating Bush.

I still think its very possible that McFadden is the best RB from the OUTSTANDING 2008 draft class. At most Bush will be a LenDale like TD vulture.

 

[jurb26]

As many as are underrating McFadden, an equal number are overestimating Bush.

Totally agree. If McFadden is healthy he is clearly the best player on Raiders offense. I've been a huge supporter of McFadden for years now. Still, I have to admit that turf toe scares the crap out of me.

 

[baconisgood]

His ADP (antsports) is 5.03, which is incredibly too high for my tastes. Not saying he doesnt have talent just that he hasnt really produced yet and is going to be on one of the worst teams in the NFL.

I don't even understand the argument. He will be the feature back on a team that CAN run the football. Turf toe problems? It was a shoe problem that has since been corrected. He will not simply come out on passing downs as he is an able reciever and one of their fastest players. He is a one cut and gone guy. That is not a negative that is a great thing. Bush will be a part of this offense no doubt. But the one thing this team can do is run. Bush will not have starter points, but he will get his share of work. Leaving him in the J.Stewart role. I am fine with that. Keep McFadden on the field and good things are bound to happen. He will not put up the numbers D.Williams put up, but that is the role he looks to have. So he is the P.Thomas of Oakland. Great, but he has more up side. The fact that he can be drafted as a RB#3 just makes it that much easier to put him on any roster. 265-1190-9 and 55-440-3. Bush 150-600-8. Fargus will be phased out for the most part with numbers not fantasy relavvent. I am sorry and what WR#2 are you taking that has that much upside?

McFadden is closer to reggie bush than he is to Pierre Thomas.

 

[Gopher State]

His ADP (antsports) is 5.03, which is incredibly too high for my tastes. Not saying he doesnt have talent just that he hasnt really produced yet and is going to be on one of the worst teams in the NFL.

I don't even understand the argument. He will be the feature back on a team that CAN run the football. Turf toe problems? It was a shoe problem that has since been corrected. He will not simply come out on passing downs as he is an able reciever and one of their fastest players. He is a one cut and gone guy. That is not a negative that is a great thing. Bush will be a part of this offense no doubt. But the one thing this team can do is run. Bush will not have starter points, but he will get his share of work. Leaving him in the J.Stewart role. I am fine with that. Keep McFadden on the field and good things are bound to happen. He will not put up the numbers D.Williams put up, but that is the role he looks to have. So he is the P.Thomas of Oakland. Great, but he has more up side. The fact that he can be drafted as a RB#3 just makes it that much easier to put him on any roster. 265-1190-9 and 55-440-3. Bush 150-600-8. Fargus will be phased out for the most part with numbers not fantasy relavvent. I am sorry and what WR#2 are you taking that has that much upside?

Raiders | McFadden, Bush, Fargas receiving equal workTue, 04 Aug 2009 06:35:28 -0700KFFLJerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports Oakland Raiders RBs Darren McFadden, Michael Bush and Justin Fargas each received an equal amount of reps in practice Monday, Aug. 3. Don't know where you are getting this information that McFadden will be the "FEATURED BACK" I have not found this statement anywhere on the web, or see it quoted from any of the coaches. As the KFFL story reads, equal work. I don't think fargus will be phased out, but if you have a link to that effect it would be nice to see.

 

[flintpanthers]

His ADP (antsports) is 5.03, which is incredibly too high for my tastes. Not saying he doesnt have talent just that he hasnt really produced yet and is going to be on one of the worst teams in the NFL.

I don't even understand the argument. He will be the feature back on a team that CAN run the football. Turf toe problems? It was a shoe problem that has since been corrected. He will not simply come out on passing downs as he is an able reciever and one of their fastest players. He is a one cut and gone guy. That is not a negative that is a great thing. Bush will be a part of this offense no doubt. But the one thing this team can do is run. Bush will not have starter points, but he will get his share of work. Leaving him in the J.Stewart role. I am fine with that. Keep McFadden on the field and good things are bound to happen. He will not put up the numbers D.Williams put up, but that is the role he looks to have. So he is the P.Thomas of Oakland. Great, but he has more up side. The fact that he can be drafted as a RB#3 just makes it that much easier to put him on any roster. 265-1190-9 and 55-440-3. Bush 150-600-8. Fargus will be phased out for the most part with numbers not fantasy relavvent. I am sorry and what WR#2 are you taking that has that much upside?

Raiders | McFadden, Bush, Fargas receiving equal workTue, 04 Aug 2009 06:35:28 -0700KFFLJerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports Oakland Raiders RBs Darren McFadden, Michael Bush and Justin Fargas each received an equal amount of reps in practice Monday, Aug. 3. Don't know where you are getting this information that McFadden will be the "FEATURED BACK" I have not found this statement anywhere on the web, or see it quoted from any of the coaches. As the KFFL story reads, equal work. I don't think fargus will be phased out, but if you have a link to that effect it would be nice to see.

Coach Cable is lining McFadden up all over the field to keep him on the field longer. That has already been posted several places. So is the fact that McFadden has looked great thus far in camp. So they shared some reps in a practice on Monday. Fargus took a pay cut already I believe this jsut a year after they gave him the new contract. But hey you wish to avoid do so. I hope alot of people continue to. I will take him as my #3 RB and smile while doing it.

 

[Masked Vigilante]

He's being paid $60 million over 6 years. Al Davis expects McFadden to be their star guy on offense. There is no way Cable gives McFadden less than 75% of the carries (assuming good health)

 

[flintpanthers]

His ADP (antsports) is 5.03, which is incredibly too high for my tastes. Not saying he doesnt have talent just that he hasnt really produced yet and is going to be on one of the worst teams in the NFL.

I don't even understand the argument. He will be the feature back on a team that CAN run the football. Turf toe problems? It was a shoe problem that has since been corrected. He will not simply come out on passing downs as he is an able reciever and one of their fastest players. He is a one cut and gone guy. That is not a negative that is a great thing. Bush will be a part of this offense no doubt. But the one thing this team can do is run. Bush will not have starter points, but he will get his share of work. Leaving him in the J.Stewart role. I am fine with that. Keep McFadden on the field and good things are bound to happen. He will not put up the numbers D.Williams put up, but that is the role he looks to have. So he is the P.Thomas of Oakland. Great, but he has more up side. The fact that he can be drafted as a RB#3 just makes it that much easier to put him on any roster. 265-1190-9 and 55-440-3. Bush 150-600-8. Fargus will be phased out for the most part with numbers not fantasy relavvent. I am sorry and what WR#2 are you taking that has that much upside?

McFadden is closer to reggie bush than he is to Pierre Thomas.

I really do not see it that way at all. P.Thomas will get less carries than M.Bush. McFadden will get more carries than R.Bush. McFadden has the potential to be an every down back, Bush is what he is. He gets around 15 touches a game from either the rec or rush and does rather well with them. McFadden will get more carries and not quite as many receptions. Question. Who is NOrleans starter? Well I believe McFadden will be OAKs starter. Thus the Thomas comapison.

 

[flintpanthers]

OOPs Thomas will get more carries than M.Bush.GEEZ

 

[Binky The Doormat]

His ADP (antsports) is 5.03, which is incredibly too high for my tastes. Not saying he doesnt have talent just that he hasnt really produced yet and is going to be on one of the worst teams in the NFL.

I don't even understand the argument. He will be the feature back on a team that CAN run the football. Turf toe problems? It was a shoe problem that has since been corrected. He will not simply come out on passing downs as he is an able reciever and one of their fastest players. He is a one cut and gone guy. That is not a negative that is a great thing. Bush will be a part of this offense no doubt. But the one thing this team can do is run. Bush will not have starter points, but he will get his share of work. Leaving him in the J.Stewart role. I am fine with that. Keep McFadden on the field and good things are bound to happen. He will not put up the numbers D.Williams put up, but that is the role he looks to have. So he is the P.Thomas of Oakland. Great, but he has more up side. The fact that he can be drafted as a RB#3 just makes it that much easier to put him on any roster. 265-1190-9 and 55-440-3. Bush 150-600-8. Fargus will be phased out for the most part with numbers not fantasy relavvent. I am sorry and what WR#2 are you taking that has that much upside?

McFadden is closer to reggie bush than he is to Pierre Thomas.

I really do not see it that way at all. P.Thomas will get less carries than M.Bush. McFadden will get more carries than R.Bush. McFadden has the potential to be an every down back, Bush is what he is. He gets around 15 touches a game from either the rec or rush and does rather well with them. McFadden will get more carries and not quite as many receptions. Question. Who is NOrleans starter? Well I believe McFadden will be OAKs starter. Thus the Thomas comapison.

yeah ...ok.

 

[Masked Vigilante]

Will the Raiders have any sort of Wildcat Offense (Jamarcus as fullback!!!) installed this year? McFadden did have success with it in college.

 

[mikel0254]

His ADP (antsports) is 5.03, which is incredibly too high for my tastes. Not saying he doesnt have talent just that he hasnt really produced yet and is going to be on one of the worst teams in the NFL.

I don't even understand the argument. He will be the feature back on a team that CAN run the football. Turf toe problems? It was a shoe problem that has since been corrected. He will not simply come out on passing downs as he is an able reciever and one of their fastest players. He is a one cut and gone guy. That is not a negative that is a great thing. Bush will be a part of this offense no doubt. But the one thing this team can do is run. Bush will not have starter points, but he will get his share of work. Leaving him in the J.Stewart role. I am fine with that. Keep McFadden on the field and good things are bound to happen. He will not put up the numbers D.Williams put up, but that is the role he looks to have. So he is the P.Thomas of Oakland. Great, but he has more up side. The fact that he can be drafted as a RB#3 just makes it that much easier to put him on any roster. 265-1190-9 and 55-440-3. Bush 150-600-8. Fargus will be phased out for the most part with numbers not fantasy relavvent. I am sorry and what WR#2 are you taking that has that much upside?

McFadden is closer to reggie bush than he is to Pierre Thomas.

I really do not see it that way at all. P.Thomas will get less carries than M.Bush. McFadden will get more carries than R.Bush. McFadden has the potential to be an every down back, Bush is what he is. He gets around 15 touches a game from either the rec or rush and does rather well with them. McFadden will get more carries and not quite as many receptions. Question. Who is NOrleans starter? Well I believe McFadden will be OAKs starter. Thus the Thomas comapison.

yeah ...ok.

Try reading the post above yours

 

[baconisgood]

His ADP (antsports) is 5.03, which is incredibly too high for my tastes. Not saying he doesnt have talent just that he hasnt really produced yet and is going to be on one of the worst teams in the NFL.

I don't even understand the argument. He will be the feature back on a team that CAN run the football. Turf toe problems? It was a shoe problem that has since been corrected. He will not simply come out on passing downs as he is an able reciever and one of their fastest players. He is a one cut and gone guy. That is not a negative that is a great thing. Bush will be a part of this offense no doubt. But the one thing this team can do is run. Bush will not have starter points, but he will get his share of work. Leaving him in the J.Stewart role. I am fine with that. Keep McFadden on the field and good things are bound to happen. He will not put up the numbers D.Williams put up, but that is the role he looks to have. So he is the P.Thomas of Oakland. Great, but he has more up side. The fact that he can be drafted as a RB#3 just makes it that much easier to put him on any roster. 265-1190-9 and 55-440-3. Bush 150-600-8. Fargus will be phased out for the most part with numbers not fantasy relavvent. I am sorry and what WR#2 are you taking that has that much upside?

McFadden is closer to reggie bush than he is to Pierre Thomas.

I really do not see it that way at all. P.Thomas will get less carries than M.Bush. McFadden will get more carries than R.Bush. McFadden has the potential to be an every down back, Bush is what he is. He gets around 15 touches a game from either the rec or rush and does rather well with them. McFadden will get more carries and not quite as many receptions. Question. Who is NOrleans starter? Well I believe McFadden will be OAKs starter. Thus the Thomas comapison.

Who is likely to be the goal line back in Oak? Mcfadden's skill set is closer to Bush's than to Thomas' even though they are not directly comparable.

 

[Carter_Can_Fly]

His ADP (antsports) is 5.03, which is incredibly too high for my tastes. Not saying he doesnt have talent just that he hasnt really produced yet and is going to be on one of the worst teams in the NFL.

I don't even understand the argument. He will be the feature back on a team that CAN run the football. Turf toe problems? It was a shoe problem that has since been corrected. He will not simply come out on passing downs as he is an able reciever and one of their fastest players. He is a one cut and gone guy. That is not a negative that is a great thing. Bush will be a part of this offense no doubt. But the one thing this team can do is run. Bush will not have starter points, but he will get his share of work. Leaving him in the J.Stewart role. I am fine with that. Keep McFadden on the field and good things are bound to happen. He will not put up the numbers D.Williams put up, but that is the role he looks to have. So he is the P.Thomas of Oakland. Great, but he has more up side. The fact that he can be drafted as a RB#3 just makes it that much easier to put him on any roster. 265-1190-9 and 55-440-3. Bush 150-600-8. Fargus will be phased out for the most part with numbers not fantasy relavvent. I am sorry and what WR#2 are you taking that has that much upside?

McFadden is closer to reggie bush than he is to Pierre Thomas.

I really do not see it that way at all. P.Thomas will get less carries than M.Bush. McFadden will get more carries than R.Bush. McFadden has the potential to be an every down back, Bush is what he is. He gets around 15 touches a game from either the rec or rush and does rather well with them. McFadden will get more carries and not quite as many receptions. Question. Who is NOrleans starter? Well I believe McFadden will be OAKs starter. Thus the Thomas comapison.

Who is likely to be the goal line back in Oak? Mcfadden's skill set is closer to Bush's than to Thomas' even though they are not directly comparable.

I think it depends on the package and where they are in the red zone and what you consider the goal line touches. For instance Mcfadden can be a guy like Westbrook who is a nightmare to cover and create mismatches in the passing game when you on the 5 yard line. If its from the 2 and they are looking to punch it in you would guess by body types that M. Bush would be the guy here.

 

[Dragon1952]

Raiders | McFadden, Bush, Fargas receiving equal work

Tue, 04 Aug 2009 06:35:28 -0700

KFFL

Jerry McDonald, of ANG Newspapers, reports Oakland Raiders RBs Darren McFadden, Michael Bush and Justin Fargas each received an equal amount of reps in practice Monday, Aug. 3.

Don't know where you are getting this information that McFadden will be the "FEATURED BACK" I have not found this statement anywhere on the web, or see it quoted from any of the coaches. As the KFFL story reads, equal work. I don't think fargus will be phased out, but if you have a link to that effect it would be nice to see.

Just because they might be receiving equal work in a couple practices means that's going to automatically continue and carry on into the season?...hmmm.http://nooffseason.com/player-news/mcfadde...re-touches.html

"According to the Oakland Tribune, Raiders' running back Darren McFadden is expected to get significantly more touches this season than he did last year. Raiders' coach Tom Cable has been making an effort to get the ball in McFadden's hands"

http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_1297...?nclick_check=1

By Steve Corkran

scorkran@bayareanewsgroup.com

Posted: 08/01/2009 08:32:23 PM PDT

Raiders Coach Tom Cable spent part of his summer vacation studying video of his offense, and one thing jumped out at him: He can't have running back Darren McFadden on the field often enough.

"He's a real key for us," Cable said of Oakland's top draft pick in 2008. "When you look at us when we used him many ways, not just as a runner, but many ways, we were much, much better offensively. So (the goal is) to expand on that role and make him a key part of what we're trying to do."

McFadden totaled 499 yards rushing and 285 receiving. But he touched the ball an average of only 11 times per game.

Cable said he is working on getting McFadden on the field as the primary back, in two-back sets and even as a wide receiver.

McFadden said he is ready for anything, especially now that he has healed from the turf-toe and shoulder injuries that plagued him last season.

"If I stay healthy, and I'm going to try to stay healthy, I'm looking forward to seeing how much more they want to put me out there," McFadden said. "But you're going to see a lot more this year."