Player Spotlight: Kyle Orton (1 Viewer)

[Jason Wood]

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Thread Topic: Kyle Orton, QB, Denver Broncos

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[Tau837]

Previous posts on Orton:

From a fantasy perspective, if Orton wins the job and stays healthy, I think there is little doubt he will be above average. Last season, Denver attempted 620 passes. McDaniel's offense attempted 534. Denver's defense will presumably still be weak, so I'll project 550 passing attempts. Last season, Orton averaged 6.4 ypa and had a 3.9% TD percentage and 2.6% interception percentage. Just carrying those numbers over, with 550 attempts, he'd throw for 3520 yards, 21 TDs, and 14 interceptions. But those numbers don't reflect better offensive coaching and playcalling, better OL, and/or better targets. And it uses numbers that were negatively affected when he played hurt, which we don't know he will have to do this season. I think he could easily throw for 3700 yards and 25 TDs.

In case you want to say it isn't reasonable to extrapolate from Orton's 465 attempts last season, consider that he average 31 passing attempts per game last year, and 550 attempts in 16 games is 34.4 attempts per game... not such a difference that it is unreasonable to extrapolate IMO.From an NFL perspective, we have already seen that Orton can be moderately successful in a conservative offense - he is 21-12 as a starter. And with an improved situation (outlined previously), he should be able to post better numbers to go along with that.

I'll be back later to expand on this and add projections.

 

[switz]

In the first 7.5 games of last season, Orton threw 244 passes, at 7.28 yards per attempt, 10 TDs (1/24.4 att), and 4 INTs (1/61 att).

That was in Chicago, a QB unfriendly team, system, and atmosphere.

Of course, then Orton was injured, and rushed back to soon, because he didn't want to lose the starting job. His effectiveness was clearly impacted negatively by the injury. Still, in the last game of the season he threw for 244 yards and 2 TDs, 0 INTs, showing that as he was regaining his health, his performance was starting to improve.

If you take the first 7.5 games and prorate those numbers across 16 games, you get:

542 passes, 3,947 yards, 21 TDs, 9 INTs

Now considering that Denver threw 620 passes last season, and McDaniel's offense threw 534 while breaking in a first time starter, 542 is not unreasonable, and may even be low. McDaniel's offense in '07 threw it 586 times.

Even if we knock Orton's YPA down to say 6.6 (in only two games with 20+ attempts did Orton average < 6.6 YPA) and estimate his attempts will be between 542 and 586, say, 564, that results in:

564 att, 350 comp, 3,722 yards, 23 TDs, 9 INTs

Remember also that Orton ran for three TDs last season, and DEN has a history of QBs running in TDs, it's not unreasonable to think Orton could again run in 2-3 TDs.

Add to the totals then 45 yards rushing and 2 TDs.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

In the first 7.5 games of last season, Orton threw 244 passes, at 7.28 yards per attempt, 10 TDs (1/24.4 att), and 4 INTs (1/61 att).

That was in Chicago, a QB unfriendly team, system, and atmosphere.

Of course, then Orton was injured, and rushed back to soon, because he didn't want to lose the starting job. His effectiveness was clearly impacted negatively by the injury. Still, in the last game of the season he threw for 244 yards and 2 TDs, 0 INTs, showing that as he was regaining his health, his performance was starting to improve.

If you take the first 7.5 games and prorate those numbers across 16 games, you get:

542 passes, 3,947 yards, 21 TDs, 9 INTs

Now considering that Denver threw 620 passes last season, and McDaniel's offense threw 534 while breaking in a first time starter, 542 is not unreasonable, and may even be low. McDaniel's offense in '07 threw it 586 times.

Even if we knock Orton's YPA down to say 6.6 (in only two games with 20+ attempts did Orton average < 6.6 YPA) and estimate his attempts will be between 542 and 586, say, 564, that results in:

564 att, 350 comp, 3,722 yards, 23 TDs, 9 INTs

Remember also that Orton ran for three TDs last season, and DEN has a history of QBs running in TDs, it's not unreasonable to think Orton could again run in 2-3 TDs.

Add to the totals then 45 yards rushing and 2 TDs.

I also subscribe to the theory that Kyle Orton played very well last year prior to his injury and that overall, Denver made out pretty well in the Cutler deal. It will be interesting to see how he handles being the starter from Day 1 of training camp as he's never had that designation before.Fact is, he's got one of the best LT's in the game protecting his blind side in Ryan Clady. I don't know from a schematic perspective how McDaniels might change protections and style, but this is a unit that gave up but 12 sacks in 628 attempts. So Orton should be in a position to stay healthy for 16 games.

A wild-card is what the Broncos decide to do with Brandon Marshall. Not having him on the field would have an impact on Orton's potential. At the same time, Eddie Royal might be the best WR Orton has thrown to and it appears that the Broncos will keep Scheffler offering Orton a solid big target in the middle of the field. In addition, the defense is at best a work in progress so it's possible that Orton's attempts could verge on the high side and overall, I wouldn't be surprised to see this offense produce at an above average pace.

At the end of the day, I could definitely see a scenario come January where people are giving kudos to the Broncos for making the trade they made with Cutler and getting what they did. You can question who they selected, but I think from a value perspective, they did very well.

Prediction: 334 Completions 539 Attempts, 3749 Passing Yards, 21 TD's, 13 INT's; 17 Rushes, 30 Yards, 1 TD.

 

[Jason Wood]

Lots of good discussion about Orton in this thread:

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=472168

Feel free to pull some of your content from that thread and repurpose it here if you want.

 

[Tanner9919]

In the first 7.5 games of last season, Orton threw 244 passes, at 7.28 yards per attempt, 10 TDs (1/24.4 att), and 4 INTs (1/61 att).

That was in Chicago, a QB unfriendly team, system, and atmosphere.

Of course, then Orton was injured, and rushed back to soon, because he didn't want to lose the starting job. His effectiveness was clearly impacted negatively by the injury. Still, in the last game of the season he threw for 244 yards and 2 TDs, 0 INTs, showing that as he was regaining his health, his performance was starting to improve.

If you take the first 7.5 games and prorate those numbers across 16 games, you get:

542 passes, 3,947 yards, 21 TDs, 9 INTs

Now considering that Denver threw 620 passes last season, and McDaniel's offense threw 534 while breaking in a first time starter, 542 is not unreasonable, and may even be low. McDaniel's offense in '07 threw it 586 times.

Even if we knock Orton's YPA down to say 6.6 (in only two games with 20+ attempts did Orton average < 6.6 YPA) and estimate his attempts will be between 542 and 586, say, 564, that results in:

564 att, 350 comp, 3,722 yards, 23 TDs, 9 INTs

Remember also that Orton ran for three TDs last season, and DEN has a history of QBs running in TDs, it's not unreasonable to think Orton could again run in 2-3 TDs.

Add to the totals then 45 yards rushing and 2 TDs.

Switz, 564 att at his lifetime 55.3 comp %, equals 311 passes completed.along with his 10.5 ypc lifetime avg, you're talking 3265 yards..

33 games total, 30 passing tds..

.90 td/gm...I'd says he's closer to that , than to your 23 TD prediction..threw 27 ints over the course of his 33 professional games played, or 0.81 int/gm..

564/311/3265/17 td/13 INT

I like your analysis, but there is no way he tosses only 9 ints..Denver will throw quite a bit this season, they'll have to, the Broncos' defense is probably the NFL's worst..so that leads to more chances for turnovers and more chances for Orton to get his block knocked off by opposing linemen..

I also highly doubt the ability of Bellichick's cronies..from Crennel to Weiss, to Mangina..each has serious problems as a head coach..now enter McDaniels..

if they lose Marshall, McDaniels will probably lose the team. If they keep Marshall, he'll be a malcontent in the lockeroom

and it could get ugly. McDaniels hasn't warmed any hearts since arriving in Denver...he's acting like BB, Jr.

just saying,that clubhouse could be a disaster..sounds like players already have zero confidence in McDaniels..

 

[switz]

I like your analysis, but there is no way he tosses only 9 ints..Denver will throw quite a bit this season, they'll have to, the Broncos' defense is probably the NFL's worst..so that leads to more chances for turnovers and more chances for Orton to get his block knocked off by opposing linemen..

I actually agree with this, but I used projections instead of guestimations for my numbers. Last year against MIN, Orton threw three bad picks when trying to come from behind. So it's likely his INTs will be higher than 9, I was just basing it on INT/ATT numbers from his first 7.5 games last season, in which he only threw 4 INTs. Te Broncos will probably be behind more often than the Bears were, with their defense, so I can see some 2-3 INT games in there, but for the most part I think Orton will be relatively turnover free in most games.

I also highly doubt the ability of Bellichick's cronies..from Crennel to Weiss, to Mangina..each has serious problems as a head coach..now enter McDaniels..

if they lose Marshall, McDaniels will probably lose the team. If they keep Marshall, he'll be a malcontent in the lockeroom

and it could get ugly. McDaniels hasn't warmed any hearts since arriving in Denver...he's acting like BB, Jr.

just saying,that clubhouse could be a disaster..sounds like players already have zero confidence in McDaniels..

Yeah perhaps, who knows. He's already done a lot to overturn the roster, and the guys he brought in aren't going to rebel over the way Bronco veterans are being treated. IT reminds me a lot of how BB handled NE when he got there. Terry Glenn and Beldsoe the two top offensive players were quickly dismissed, despite the injuries associated, I think it would have happened anyway. And many on the team were unhappy about how BB handled those situations.But Orton is new to the team, Royal is only in his second year, it looks like things are good between Sheffler and McD, Moreno is a rookie, BLloyd, CBuck and LJordan are FA Additions. On the offense, I don't see much revolt. Heck, a lot of the vets on the team don't like Marshall as it is... I don't think losing him would set off anyone.

As far as Weiss, Mangini, and Crennel's success since leaving, it's mixed. Crennel had a decent stretch in '07 after rebuilding the team for two years... last season was a mess, though. Weiss first two seasons in ND were excellent, considering what a joke that program had been... I think he's just a crappy recruiter. Mangini's '06 and '08 seasons were decent.

So I don't think you can write off all ex-NE coaches as jokes... I actually think McD knows what he's doing in DEN. Shanny allowed way too many prima donnas on the team.

 

[puckalicious]

Assuming Marshall stays:

550ish/350ish/3500/20/14

Borderline QB1.

 

[Coach Pantusso]

Was kicking around some numbers...seems as though the prevailing opinion on Orton has been revolving around Marshall (health, attitude, etc).

Is it not more important (FF-wise) that he have a productive Moreno? I didn't have the time (or energy) to get really into the details, but...Orton threw for almost 3000 yards last season and 18 TDs. Forte accounted for APPROX 475 passing yards last season and accounted for 14% of the teams targets and 4 receiving TDs. Orton's passer rating therefore quickly drops to 70.0 without a good pass receiving RB. Coupled with an abysmal near-league worst 58 passer rating on throws of 10 yards or greater last season, I believe Moreno is the most important piece of the puzzle in making Orton a viable FF option.

That being said...assuming Moreno gets in soon:

337/559-3580-20-16

 

[Tau837]

Was kicking around some numbers...seems as though the prevailing opinion on Orton has been revolving around Marshall (health, attitude, etc).Is it not more important (FF-wise) that he have a productive Moreno? I didn't have the time (or energy) to get really into the details, but...Orton threw for almost 3000 yards last season and 18 TDs. Forte accounted for APPROX 475 passing yards last season and accounted for 14% of the teams targets and 4 receiving TDs. Orton's passer rating therefore quickly drops to 70.0 without a good pass receiving RB. Coupled with an abysmal near-league worst 58 passer rating on throws of 10 yards or greater last season, I believe Moreno is the most important piece of the puzzle in making Orton a viable FF option.That being said...assuming Moreno gets in soon:337/559-3580-20-16

Apples and oranges. It's possible Orton checked down to Forte frequently and performed poorly on longer throws because of some combination of poor playcalling, poor OL play, and/or poor downfield receiving targets. This season, he should have excellent OL play and much better downfield receiving targets. His offensive playcalling will be different, it's TBD whether or not it will be better, or what effect it will have.

 

[The Jacket]

Pretty optimistic in this thread. I'd like to revisit this in December.

I'd say 3300-17-13 is more like it. Jay Cutler put up 25 and 18 last year. What makes anyone think Kyle friggin' Orton will put up 23 and nine? That defense is still utter garbage and they might run a little in the red zone this year, too. It's a nice offensive system but I'd reserve such an impressive TD:INT ratio for a talented passer, not Kyle Orton. Cutler couldn't come close to that in a similar system, so I just don't see Orton doing it.

 

[Menace]

3700-21-13

 

[switz]

Pretty optimistic in this thread. I'd like to revisit this in December.I'd say 3300-17-13 is more like it. Jay Cutler put up 25 and 18 last year. What makes anyone think Kyle friggin' Orton will put up 23 and nine? That defense is still utter garbage and they might run a little in the red zone this year, too. It's a nice offensive system but I'd reserve such an impressive TD:INT ratio for a talented passer, not Kyle Orton. Cutler couldn't come close to that in a similar system, so I just don't see Orton doing it.

Cutler takes many more risks, and tries to force things, which Orton doesn't. Most of Cutler's INTs were his own fault. Orton plays very safely. And I would say Orton is probably twice as intelligent as Cutler - even after all his partying.

 

[mbuehner]

Cutler takes many more risks, and tries to force things, which Orton doesn't. Most of Cutler's INTs were his own fault. Orton plays very safely. And I would say Orton is probably twice as intelligent as Cutler - even after all his partying.

So Orton will be more conservative but throw only 2 less touchdowns than Cutler did? Orton's career TD/att ratio is 3.3%, and I bet he only improves modestly. 495 att, 290 com, 3366y, 18TD, 11 intsOrton's got better weapons but will play stouter defenses. Orton may feast on Cinci and Cleveland, but he has to play 6 of the top 10 pass defenses from last season (and san diego twice), plus Oakland twice and Dallas who potentially have good pass d's. Thats a tough road, Clayton has Denver's QB strength of schedule as the 8th toughest.

 

[The Jacket]

Pretty optimistic in this thread. I'd like to revisit this in December.I'd say 3300-17-13 is more like it. Jay Cutler put up 25 and 18 last year. What makes anyone think Kyle friggin' Orton will put up 23 and nine? That defense is still utter garbage and they might run a little in the red zone this year, too. It's a nice offensive system but I'd reserve such an impressive TD:INT ratio for a talented passer, not Kyle Orton. Cutler couldn't come close to that in a similar system, so I just don't see Orton doing it.

Cutler takes many more risks, and tries to force things, which Orton doesn't. Most of Cutler's INTs were his own fault. Orton plays very safely. And I would say Orton is probably twice as intelligent as Cutler - even after all his partying.

Orton threw 12 INTs last year in only 465 attempts with a solid defense at his back. If you think he's throwing another 100 passes, with a far worse defense putting them in deficit after deficit, and chucking just nine INTs you're going to be in for a BIG surprise.

 

[switz]

Pretty optimistic in this thread. I'd like to revisit this in December.I'd say 3300-17-13 is more like it. Jay Cutler put up 25 and 18 last year. What makes anyone think Kyle friggin' Orton will put up 23 and nine? That defense is still utter garbage and they might run a little in the red zone this year, too. It's a nice offensive system but I'd reserve such an impressive TD:INT ratio for a talented passer, not Kyle Orton. Cutler couldn't come close to that in a similar system, so I just don't see Orton doing it.

Cutler takes many more risks, and tries to force things, which Orton doesn't. Most of Cutler's INTs were his own fault. Orton plays very safely. And I would say Orton is probably twice as intelligent as Cutler - even after all his partying.

Orton threw 12 INTs last year in only 465 attempts with a solid defense at his back. If you think he's throwing another 100 passes, with a far worse defense putting them in deficit after deficit, and chucking just nine INTs you're going to be in for a BIG surprise.

Most of those TDs came while he was injured... I believe 3 came in one game. You need to look at the details.

 

[mbuehner]

I think Orton's interceptions will indeed stay low. Last year a number of his int's were the result of either him being hit while throwing or the ball bouncing off his receiver. His protection and receivers should improve this season.

He's a careful QB that makes very good decisions and has above average accuracy on his short and medium throws. His deep ball isn't great (he needs to step fully into his passes to deliver with any kind of zip) but even so he usually throws to an area where the pass will fall incomplete if not caught- he's not a Grossman or Losman that chucks the ball up with a prayer.

Orton's a smart, conservative QB that won't embarrass the Broncos, but he's certainly not going to be a top 10 prospect. Other QB2s have more upside, although in a start 2 league I think Orton may be undervalued a bit- he should be consistantly 'ok', so he won't take a dump on you very often like some of the flashier young guys do in this part of the draft.

 

[boubucarow]

New quarterback Kyle Orton, acquired from Chicago for Pro Bowl passer Jay Cutler in the biggest NFL trade of the offseason, was booed by the crowd of 13,402 at his unofficial debut at Invesco Field when he threw two interceptions and several bad passes during a structured scrimmage Thursday night.

Not saying he will be a horrible QB for Denver. But he won't be giving Broncos fans as many reasons to cheer as he will give them to boo this year. Bears fans already are amazed by Cutler's arm and accuracy simply because no Bears quarterback had either. The difference between the two quarterbacks are immense and anything close to merely swapping their stats due to supporting casts is a mistake IMHO.

 

[big0mar]

Two Words: Spread offense

 

[The Jacket]

New quarterback Kyle Orton, acquired from Chicago for Pro Bowl passer Jay Cutler in the biggest NFL trade of the offseason, was booed by the crowd of 13,402 at his unofficial debut at Invesco Field when he threw two interceptions and several bad passes during a structured scrimmage Thursday night.

Not saying he will be a horrible QB for Denver. But he won't be giving Broncos fans as many reasons to cheer as he will give them to boo this year. Bears fans already are amazed by Cutler's arm and accuracy simply because no Bears quarterback had either. The difference between the two quarterbacks are immense and anything close to merely swapping their stats due to supporting casts is a mistake IMHO.

Just a ploy to trick NFL defenses into thinking he's no good ... and then BOOM, he's popped off 300-3-0 against 'em. Suckas.

 

[Monsters of the Midway]

FWIW, I watched Orton for years and am shocked at some of these predictions. He is simply not accurate enough on longer throws and his accuracy on very long throws (bombs) has been abysmal. What I saw for much of last year was Gannon-esque dinking and dunking with the occasional long throw to keep things honest. Even doing that got him a below-average completion percentage (NFL average last year was 61% according to footballoutsiders).

Here are some facts that everyone should keep in mind

- 30 TDs in 33 career games

- Well below average comp% and TD% even last year's career year of 58% and 3.9% were more Tavaris Jackson than Carson Palmer

This is a guy who has put up atrocious fantasy and NFL numbers throughout his career outside of a good 5 game stretch last year. That reminds me a bit of Derek Anderson circa 1st half of 2007.

He's moving to a team with better WRs and a better OL but he willl also be learning a new system for a new coach. The only way he puts up good numbers is if he gets a huge volume of passes in the spread.

 

[Louisville Slugger]

FWIW, I watched Orton for years and am shocked at some of these predictions. He is simply not accurate enough on longer throws and his accuracy on very long throws (bombs) has been abysmal. What I saw for much of last year was Gannon-esque dinking and dunking with the occasional long throw to keep things honest. Even doing that got him a below-average completion percentage (NFL average last year was 61% according to footballoutsiders).Here are some facts that everyone should keep in mind- 30 TDs in 33 career games- Well below average comp% and TD% even last year's career year of 58% and 3.9% were more Tavaris Jackson than Carson PalmerThis is a guy who has put up atrocious fantasy and NFL numbers throughout his career outside of a good 5 game stretch last year. That reminds me a bit of Derek Anderson circa 1st half of 2007.He's moving to a team with better WRs and a better OL but he willl also be learning a new system for a new coach. The only way he puts up good numbers is if he gets a huge volume of passes in the spread.

- The 30 td's in 33 games # is true, but he never had any talent around him. The better talent and spread offense will make him a very solid #2 qb. Just don't fool yourself into thinking he will be an every week starter.

 

[Tau837]

From a fantasy perspective, if Orton wins the job and stays healthy, I think there is little doubt he will be above average. Last season, Denver attempted 620 passes. McDaniel's offense attempted 534. Denver's defense will presumably still be weak, so I'll project 550 passing attempts. Last season, Orton averaged 6.4 ypa and had a 3.9% TD percentage and 2.6% interception percentage. Just carrying those numbers over, with 550 attempts, he'd throw for 3520 yards, 21 TDs, and 14 interceptions. But those numbers don't reflect better offensive coaching and playcalling, better OL, and/or better targets. And it uses numbers that were negatively affected when he played hurt, which we don't know he will have to do this season. I think he could easily throw for 3700 yards and 25 TDs.

Actual numbers:336/541, 3802 passing yards, 21 TDs, 12 interceptions

 

[switz]

If you take the first 7.5 games and prorate those numbers across 16 games, you get:

542 passes, 3,947 yards, 21 TDs, 9 INTs

Now considering that Denver threw 620 passes last season, and McDaniel's offense threw 534 while breaking in a first time starter, 542 is not unreasonable, and may even be low. McDaniel's offense in '07 threw it 586 times.

Even if we knock Orton's YPA down to say 6.6 (in only two games with 20+ attempts did Orton average < 6.6 YPA) and estimate his attempts will be between 542 and 586, say, 564, that results in:

564 att, 350 comp, 3,722 yards, 23 TDs, 9 INTs

Actual:541 att, 336 comp, 62.1%, 3802 yards, 21 TD 12 INT

 

[TheDirtyWord]

If you take the first 7.5 games and prorate those numbers across 16 games, you get:

542 passes, 3,947 yards, 21 TDs, 9 INTs

Now considering that Denver threw 620 passes last season, and McDaniel's offense threw 534 while breaking in a first time starter, 542 is not unreasonable, and may even be low. McDaniel's offense in '07 threw it 586 times.

Even if we knock Orton's YPA down to say 6.6 (in only two games with 20+ attempts did Orton average < 6.6 YPA) and estimate his attempts will be between 542 and 586, say, 564, that results in:

564 att, 350 comp, 3,722 yards, 23 TDs, 9 INTs

Actual:541 att, 336 comp, 62.1%, 3802 yards, 21 TD 12 INT

I was closer! Prediction: 334 Completions 539 Attempts, 3749 Passing Yards, 21 TD's, 13 INT's

 

[switz]

If you take the first 7.5 games and prorate those numbers across 16 games, you get:

542 passes, 3,947 yards, 21 TDs, 9 INTs

Now considering that Denver threw 620 passes last season, and McDaniel's offense threw 534 while breaking in a first time starter, 542 is not unreasonable, and may even be low. McDaniel's offense in '07 threw it 586 times.

Even if we knock Orton's YPA down to say 6.6 (in only two games with 20+ attempts did Orton average < 6.6 YPA) and estimate his attempts will be between 542 and 586, say, 564, that results in:

564 att, 350 comp, 3,722 yards, 23 TDs, 9 INTs

Actual:541 att, 336 comp, 62.1%, 3802 yards, 21 TD 12 INT

I was closer! Prediction: 334 Completions 539 Attempts, 3749 Passing Yards, 21 TD's, 13 INT's

Verah nice! All in all, those of us with a relatively positive view were pretty spot on when it came to Orton.