players that have dropped since last season (1 Viewer)

[burd]

every year there are players that dont live up to their draft position. These same players, one year later fall down a few notches in draft position. You know some of these players are going to come back strong .. but which ones?

last year FWP was drafted as high as midfirst and didn't live up to the expectations. this year, i see he has dropped a little. it's only one year later and i know he's coming back from injury, but i think people are writing him off too early. i think he has the potential and teamates to possibly lead the league in rushing.

FWP isn't the only one ... LJ was a consensus top 3 pick last year. but now he's barely makes it into the top 10. Again, there's questions about his health, but he's another one that has almost fallen off the face of the earth compared to last year.

obviously, there's a lot more things that need to be considered, but just comparing last year's projections to this year's, there's a few players that i think are being written off because of a bad year. Bulger is ranked alongside some average QBs eventhough Bulger has shown that he can be among the league's leaders. MJD is another one. who else?

 

[Banger]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

 

[gianmarco]

Jacobs has fallen some.

Reggie Brown and Mark Clayton plummeted from their mid-tier position last year.

Travis Henry, anyone?

 

[zamboni]

People will continue to be scared off by his injuries, but Todd Heap may have great value this year.

If he can stay off the training table, Boller loves throwing to him, Mason is a year older, and Clayton/Williams have yet to show that they're capable of being go-to guys.

 

[gianmarco]

People will continue to be scared off by his injuries, but Todd Heap may have great value this year.If he can stay off the training table, Boller loves throwing to him, Mason is a year older, and Clayton/Williams have yet to show that they're capable of being go-to guys.

 

[Warhogs]

I agree with most of the information in here so far. How about Donald Driver? Favre retired and Driver only managed to find the end zone a couple of times last year so this could drive his value down. I think between Rodgers/Brohm that Green Bay can still get the ball to Driver.

 

[zamboni]

I agree with most of the information in here so far. How about Donald Driver? Favre retired and Driver only managed to find the end zone a couple of times last year so this could drive his value down. I think between Rodgers/Brohm that Green Bay can still get the ball to Driver.

The TDs should likely go up (not much more downside), but I would expect a sharp drop in receptions due to the loss of the Favre chemistry coupled with the expected continued emergence of Jennings and Jones.I'd likely call it a wash for Driver, but more skewed to the downside.

 

[Andy Herron]

Somebody I see having much greater value this year is Randy McMichael (Rams TE).

Linehan brought him to St. Louis from Miami specifically for the passing game last year, but because of the devastation to the offensive line injury-wise, he had to stay in and help block all year. He could be a real steal this year, from a TE standpoint. A true red zone target, and no more Isaac Bruce.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Reggie Bush

Andre Johnson

 

[Mr.Blonde]

Somebody I see having much greater value this year is Randy McMichael (Rams TE).

Linehan brought him to St. Louis from Miami specifically for the passing game last year, but because of the devastation to the offensive line injury-wise, he had to stay in and help block all year. He could be a real steal this year, from a TE standpoint. A true red zone target, and no more Isaac Bruce.

I saw somewhere that Al Saunders has had a Top 10 TE the last 10 years he has been coaching. This situation bears watching.

My personal issue: I took McMichael a couple of years ago when he sucked and it's difficult to go back to the well on guys like this.

 

[burd]

Jacobs has fallen some.Reggie Brown and Mark Clayton plummeted from their mid-tier position last year.Travis Henry, anyone?

I can't believe that Jacobs hasn't moved up more .. he's a TD beast when healthy and I expect to see his carries increase. I play in a 2QB league, so QBs go equally as fast at RBs in the early rounds. This means that guys like Jacobs can sometimes last well into the 2nd or even 3rd round.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Rudi, Chad Johnson, Maroney, Edge, Roy Williams

 

[Banger]

Jacobs has fallen some.Reggie Brown and Mark Clayton plummeted from their mid-tier position last year.Travis Henry, anyone?

I can't believe that Jacobs hasn't moved up more .. he's a TD beast when healthy and I expect to see his carries increase. I play in a 2QB league, so QBs go equally as fast at RBs in the early rounds. This means that guys like Jacobs can sometimes last well into the 2nd or even 3rd round.

With the emergence of Bradshaw in the playoffs and the return of Ward, I'm pretty uncertain what to think of him....

 

[fantasyplayer]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

 

[bcat01]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

Evans is only productive if JP is the QB (somewhat). JP's got a great deep ball. His value is low as long as Edwards is the QB

 

[travdogg]

Somebody I see having much greater value this year is Randy McMichael (Rams TE).

Linehan brought him to St. Louis from Miami specifically for the passing game last year, but because of the devastation to the offensive line injury-wise, he had to stay in and help block all year. He could be a real steal this year, from a TE standpoint. A true red zone target, and no more Isaac Bruce.

I saw somewhere that Al Saunders has had a Top 10 TE the last 10 years he has been coaching. This situation bears watching.

My personal issue: I took McMichael a couple of years ago when he sucked and it's difficult to go back to the well on guys like this.

In 8 of those 10 years Saunders had Tony Gonzalez(arguably the best TE of all-time.)This seems like the time to mention Torry Holt, he could easily be a top 5-7 WR and can be had as a WR2 in most leagues.

Todd Heap was a great example, I'd also say Vernon Davis can be had about 3 rounds later than last year, despite the fact that he was just as productive as a guy like Jeremy Shockey and in theory has a lot higher ceiling.

 

[FUBAR]

Jacobs has fallen some.Reggie Brown and Mark Clayton plummeted from their mid-tier position last year.Travis Henry, anyone?

I can't believe that Jacobs hasn't moved up more .. he's a TD beast when healthy and I expect to see his carries increase. I play in a 2QB league, so QBs go equally as fast at RBs in the early rounds. This means that guys like Jacobs can sometimes last well into the 2nd or even 3rd round.

With the emergence of Bradshaw in the playoffs and the return of Ward, I'm pretty uncertain what to think of him....

Even if not a 2QB league, I'd have a hard time taking Jacobs in the top 50 picks. The possible reward makes me consider him, but when there's 3 decent RBs on the team, I won't take any of them as one of my top 4 players. Same thing with Tennessee. (We are talking redraft, right?)Interesting to see the staff's rankings on Jacobs, from 11 (Smith) to 57 (Wimer). I really can't see taking him top 12, but I understand Smith's logic and appreciate his comment. I'm dropping Roy Williams down to around #20. Martz is gone and Roy was overhyped to begin with.

 

[brock]

even studs get hurt or have down years. just like high scoring fluke years, there are some low scoring fluke years.

 

[Banger]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

As am I. I avoided him last year because I thought he was too expensive and this year he's probably a little cheap.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Jacobs has fallen some.Reggie Brown and Mark Clayton plummeted from their mid-tier position last year.Travis Henry, anyone?

I can't believe that Jacobs hasn't moved up more .. he's a TD beast when healthy and I expect to see his carries increase. I play in a 2QB league, so QBs go equally as fast at RBs in the early rounds. This means that guys like Jacobs can sometimes last well into the 2nd or even 3rd round.

With the emergence of Bradshaw in the playoffs and the return of Ward, I'm pretty uncertain what to think of him....

Even if not a 2QB league, I'd have a hard time taking Jacobs in the top 50 picks. The possible reward makes me consider him, but when there's 3 decent RBs on the team, I won't take any of them as one of my top 4 players. Same thing with Tennessee. (We are talking redraft, right?)Interesting to see the staff's rankings on Jacobs, from 11 (Smith) to 57 (Wimer). I really can't see taking him top 12, but I understand Smith's logic and appreciate his comment. I'm dropping Roy Williams down to around #20. Martz is gone and Roy was overhyped to begin with.

Let me give you a reason not to drop Roy. Martz loved "his guys". Furrey and McDonald saw way too much of the field and had plays called for them under tha Martz system. Those two guys stats will be poorl this coming season. Roy and Calvin will be the primary pass catchers this season. Also the Lions D is still awful, I expect them to be behind an awful lot this season.

 

[Banger]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

Evans is only productive if JP is the QB (somewhat). JP's got a great deep ball. His value is low as long as Edwards is the QB

I looked the #'s from last year and Evans avg'd 7.6 fpts with Losman and 6.15 with Edwards. It's hard to draw any strong conclusions from the data due to the teams each QB faced.

 

[gianmarco]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

Evans is only productive if JP is the QB (somewhat). JP's got a great deep ball. His value is low as long as Edwards is the QB

I looked the #'s from last year and Evans avg'd 7.6 fpts with Losman and 6.15 with Edwards. It's hard to draw any strong conclusions from the data due to the teams each QB faced.

I think there's an easy conclusion to draw. Evans was horrible last year.

 

[Mr.Blonde]

Somebody I see having much greater value this year is Randy McMichael (Rams TE).

Linehan brought him to St. Louis from Miami specifically for the passing game last year, but because of the devastation to the offensive line injury-wise, he had to stay in and help block all year. He could be a real steal this year, from a TE standpoint. A true red zone target, and no more Isaac Bruce.

I saw somewhere that Al Saunders has had a Top 10 TE the last 10 years he has been coaching. This situation bears watching.

My personal issue: I took McMichael a couple of years ago when he sucked and it's difficult to go back to the well on guys like this.

In 8 of those 10 years Saunders had Tony Gonzalez (arguably the best TE of all-time.)

In the other 2 Saunders took Chris Cooley and made him a pretty good TE, so Saunders does know what he's doing. He took advantage and helped Gonzo to be the best and made Cooley a Pro Bowler.

Here in June, I just have a difficult time seeing McMichael being "the man" and playing in Hawaii.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

Evans is only productive if JP is the QB (somewhat). JP's got a great deep ball. His value is low as long as Edwards is the QB

I looked the #'s from last year and Evans avg'd 7.6 fpts with Losman and 6.15 with Edwards. It's hard to draw any strong conclusions from the data due to the teams each QB faced.

that is last year, but Evans "breakout" was with JP at the helm the year before

 

[Ron_Mexico]

I think Santana Moss has dropped in value since lat season.

I also think it's justified. Zorn and the FO have shown they have

little faith in him by using high picks to draft Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly

.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Rudi Johnson will be a steal this year since all the nagging injuries should be healed up. I don't expect him to get back to 1500 yards rushing and 12 TD's, but I think 1200 and 8 is perfectly reasonable.

 

[Banger]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

Evans is only productive if JP is the QB (somewhat). JP's got a great deep ball. His value is low as long as Edwards is the QB

I looked the #'s from last year and Evans avg'd 7.6 fpts with Losman and 6.15 with Edwards. It's hard to draw any strong conclusions from the data due to the teams each QB faced.

that is last year, but Evans "breakout" was with JP at the helm the year before

his "breakout" was largely one game that resulted in 22% of his production for the year. I'm not a big fan of discounting big plays/games but in his case that type of production from one game definitely caught my attention. It swung his fpts/game from 9.24 to 11.07. If you use his season average of 9.24 in place of his outlier 38.5 he drops from the #7 to the #17 wr. I realize that he had a good year with Losman but I don't think that Edwards can also be successful with him. Yes, he probably won't have as many 85 yard bombs but he will probably end up with more receptions and yards.

 

[Banger]

Rudi Johnson will be a steal this year since all the nagging injuries should be healed up. I don't expect him to get back to 1500 yards rushing and 12 TD's, but I think 1200 and 8 is perfectly reasonable.

In the same vein of Jacobs though, he was warning signs all over. With Perry healthy (at least as of this minute), Watson and Irons there a few able bodied backs on the roster. I would definitely take a shot at him as a 3rd RB though due to the potential upside if things break right.

 

[burd]

even studs get hurt or have down years. just like high scoring fluke years, there are some low scoring fluke years.

i guess that's my point ... injuries are a part of the game and definitely should be considered. But if the only reason for downgrading someone is because of a previous injury, there's the potential for that player to perform at the high level that was previously expected. In this case, you lose out on a great player because you were more influenced by the injury rather than considering how great of a player he was when he was healthy.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Rudi Johnson will be a steal this year since all the nagging injuries should be healed up. I don't expect him to get back to 1500 yards rushing and 12 TD's, but I think 1200 and 8 is perfectly reasonable.

In the same vein of Jacobs though, he was warning signs all over. With Perry healthy (at least as of this minute), Watson and Irons there a few able bodied backs on the roster. I would definitely take a shot at him as a 3rd RB though due to the potential upside if things break right.

He was drafted in the mid-late 6th round in the mock from Rotoworld that someone recently posted. I'd be all over him at that point. I'm not worried about Perry, but I would try to handcuff him with Watson a few rounds later.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

Evans is only productive if JP is the QB (somewhat). JP's got a great deep ball. His value is low as long as Edwards is the QB

I looked the #'s from last year and Evans avg'd 7.6 fpts with Losman and 6.15 with Edwards. It's hard to draw any strong conclusions from the data due to the teams each QB faced.

that is last year, but Evans "breakout" was with JP at the helm the year before

his "breakout" was largely one game that resulted in 22% of his production for the year. I'm not a big fan of discounting big plays/games but in his case that type of production from one game definitely caught my attention. It swung his fpts/game from 9.24 to 11.07. If you use his season average of 9.24 in place of his outlier 38.5 he drops from the #7 to the #17 wr. I realize that he had a good year with Losman but I don't think that Edwards can also be successful with him. Yes, he probably won't have as many 85 yard bombs but he will probably end up with more receptions and yards.

you dont like to do it? but ADP had 46% of his TD production and 35% of his yardage production in 2 games. it all counts

 

[Banger]

Rudi Johnson will be a steal this year since all the nagging injuries should be healed up. I don't expect him to get back to 1500 yards rushing and 12 TD's, but I think 1200 and 8 is perfectly reasonable.

In the same vein of Jacobs though, he was warning signs all over. With Perry healthy (at least as of this minute), Watson and Irons there a few able bodied backs on the roster. I would definitely take a shot at him as a 3rd RB though due to the potential upside if things break right.

He was drafted in the mid-late 6th round in the mock from Rotoworld that someone recently posted. I'd be all over him at that point. I'm not worried about Perry, but I would try to handcuff him with Watson a few rounds later.

I'd probably take a swing at him at that point as well....

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

Evans is only productive if JP is the QB (somewhat). JP's got a great deep ball. His value is low as long as Edwards is the QB

I looked the #'s from last year and Evans avg'd 7.6 fpts with Losman and 6.15 with Edwards. It's hard to draw any strong conclusions from the data due to the teams each QB faced.

that is last year, but Evans "breakout" was with JP at the helm the year before

his "breakout" was largely one game that resulted in 22% of his production for the year. I'm not a big fan of discounting big plays/games but in his case that type of production from one game definitely caught my attention. It swung his fpts/game from 9.24 to 11.07. If you use his season average of 9.24 in place of his outlier 38.5 he drops from the #7 to the #17 wr. I realize that he had a good year with Losman but I don't think that Edwards can also be successful with him. Yes, he probably won't have as many 85 yard bombs but he will probably end up with more receptions and yards.

you dont like to do it? but ADP had 46% of his TD production and 35% of his yardage production in 2 games. it all counts

Yet Chad Johnson slips and slips down the rankings because of the same thing

 

[Banger]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

Evans is only productive if JP is the QB (somewhat). JP's got a great deep ball. His value is low as long as Edwards is the QB

I looked the #'s from last year and Evans avg'd 7.6 fpts with Losman and 6.15 with Edwards. It's hard to draw any strong conclusions from the data due to the teams each QB faced.

that is last year, but Evans "breakout" was with JP at the helm the year before

his "breakout" was largely one game that resulted in 22% of his production for the year. I'm not a big fan of discounting big plays/games but in his case that type of production from one game definitely caught my attention. It swung his fpts/game from 9.24 to 11.07. If you use his season average of 9.24 in place of his outlier 38.5 he drops from the #7 to the #17 wr. I realize that he had a good year with Losman but I don't think that Edwards can also be successful with him. Yes, he probably won't have as many 85 yard bombs but he will probably end up with more receptions and yards.

you dont like to do it? but ADP had 46% of his TD production and 35% of his yardage production in 2 games. it all counts

It's a good point but a different kettle of fish to me though. Evans is/was on a bad team with a bad QB and hit lightning in a bottle one week. I know a couple teams that sat Evans that game due to his streaky nature (thankfully the guy that played me that week). His 3 games prior to the huge one were 1-10, 2-58-1 and 5-70. ADP has a top line, a coach that loves to run and a defense that will keep them in every game so I think he has a better chance of repeating those crazy games and he'll be in your starting lineup each week no matter what. That being said, I'm not as sold as most are on ADP and he'll be an interesting guy to watch this year.

 

[munchkin]

I think there's an easy conclusion to draw. Evans was horrible last year.

It's not like Evans was dropping balls and running bad routes. To say he was horrible is really not a fair statement, but his production was way off from what was expected.

 

[Banger]

I think there's an easy conclusion to draw. Evans was horrible last year.

It's not like Evans was dropping balls and running bad routes. To say he was horrible is really not a fair statement, but his production was way off from what was expected.

He was in nearly an impossible spot to succeed though in retrospect. He had total garbage for a #2 wr, no receiving threat out of the backfield, no passing catching TE and two QB's that were probably in the bottom 5 in the league. When it was a passing down everyone in the stadium expected Evans to get the ball. Look at what happened to Steve Smith when Delhomme went down last year, it was nearly the same exact situation. Smith was pretty much the consensus #1 wr and through the first two weeks with Delhomme he scored 51.1 points (25.5/game) and the remaining 13 games he played in he scored 91.1 (7/game). Even proven elite talent wr's cannot do it by themselves.

Speaking of which S. Smith s/b added to the list of guys that will drop....

 

[fantasyplayer]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

Evans is only productive if JP is the QB (somewhat). JP's got a great deep ball. His value is low as long as Edwards is the QB

I looked the #'s from last year and Evans avg'd 7.6 fpts with Losman and 6.15 with Edwards. It's hard to draw any strong conclusions from the data due to the teams each QB faced.

that is last year, but Evans "breakout" was with JP at the helm the year before

his "breakout" was largely one game that resulted in 22% of his production for the year. I'm not a big fan of discounting big plays/games but in his case that type of production from one game definitely caught my attention. It swung his fpts/game from 9.24 to 11.07. If you use his season average of 9.24 in place of his outlier 38.5 he drops from the #7 to the #17 wr. I realize that he had a good year with Losman but I don't think that Edwards can also be successful with him. Yes, he probably won't have as many 85 yard bombs but he will probably end up with more receptions and yards.

you dont like to do it? but ADP had 46% of his TD production and 35% of his yardage production in 2 games. it all counts

Yet Chad Johnson slips and slips down the rankings because of the same thing

The difference is that Chad Johnson is normally your WR1. Lee Evans is most likely your WR2 or maybe even WR3.

 

[msommer]

Delhomme

 

[gianmarco]

Delhomme

 

[burd]

if Delhomme stays healthy .. Smith is going to be someone's steal. There's no hype at all this year around Smith because of two less than stellar years. He'll drop down a few spots becuse of this.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Evans will be punished in the rankings this year along with Clayton from Baltimore who struggled with an ankle injury for a good portion of the season. Harrison is also obvious but his health will bear watching because he could be a stone cold steal if he returns to the starting lineup. Chad Johnson may drop due to his noisy offseason.

Caddy will bear watching because Graham = L. Betts. Rudi's situation will bear watching because he may fall too far if he's back healthy and gets the job back.

Leinart's situation is worth watching because he burned a number of owners last year. All the distractions in Cincy may allow Palmer to drop as well.

Evans is a guy that I'm targeting in all of my leagues this year. He can be acquired at a low end WR2 price and has the potential to perform as a WR1.

I targeted him last year and got burned.

Evans is only productive if JP is the QB (somewhat). JP's got a great deep ball. His value is low as long as Edwards is the QB

I looked the #'s from last year and Evans avg'd 7.6 fpts with Losman and 6.15 with Edwards. It's hard to draw any strong conclusions from the data due to the teams each QB faced.

that is last year, but Evans "breakout" was with JP at the helm the year before

his "breakout" was largely one game that resulted in 22% of his production for the year. I'm not a big fan of discounting big plays/games but in his case that type of production from one game definitely caught my attention. It swung his fpts/game from 9.24 to 11.07. If you use his season average of 9.24 in place of his outlier 38.5 he drops from the #7 to the #17 wr. I realize that he had a good year with Losman but I don't think that Edwards can also be successful with him. Yes, he probably won't have as many 85 yard bombs but he will probably end up with more receptions and yards.

you dont like to do it? but ADP had 46% of his TD production and 35% of his yardage production in 2 games. it all counts

It's a good point but a different kettle of fish to me though. Evans is/was on a bad team with a bad QB and hit lightning in a bottle one week. I know a couple teams that sat Evans that game due to his streaky nature (thankfully the guy that played me that week). His 3 games prior to the huge one were 1-10, 2-58-1 and 5-70. ADP has a top line, a coach that loves to run and a defense that will keep them in every game so I think he has a better chance of repeating those crazy games and he'll be in your starting lineup each week no matter what. That being said, I'm not as sold as most are on ADP and he'll be an interesting guy to watch this year.

I am not sold as well. But let's keep that a secret.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

The difference is that Chad Johnson is normally your WR1. Lee Evans is most likely your WR2 or maybe even WR3.

I was more so referring to the Peterson part, not so much Evans. I know Peterson was only a rookie and is a god but still ...

 

[Todem]

if Delhomme stays healthy .. Smith is going to be someone's steal. There's no hype at all this year around Smith because of two less than stellar years. He'll drop down a few spots becuse of this.

I agree strongly on that one.Also I am a Javon Walker believer. He will represent great ppr value this season. If healthy he will be a ball hog and I expect Russell to find him and find him often. Walker has shown he has mad skills. He has had bad luck with the knee 2 of the past 3 years.

 

[sfl49er]

if Delhomme stays healthy .. Smith is going to be someone's steal. There's no hype at all this year around Smith because of two less than stellar years. He'll drop down a few spots becuse of this.

But anyone who has seen what Smith has done on the field should put him at the top of this list... If his qb can get him the ball. He needs a new team IMO to show his talent.

 

[radballs]

Rudi, Chad Johnson, Maroney, Edge, Roy Williams

I agree with all of these except Rudi. I think he will be alright, but I'm almost exclusively in ppr leagues (and he never gets catches) and I think he's still going a bit too early with all of the potential competition there. I've been snapping up Chad Johnson in a lot of leagues so far this year.