Players who took a step back today (1 Viewer)

[rascal]

Ronnie Brown has been disappointing. With Culpepper adn that offense being anemic at best things don't look so good.

 

[JuniorNB]

There's a few here that nobody should worry about, and if their owners are, it's shopping time!

Carolina: DeAngelo Williams...Foster owners breathe a little relief as Williams did nothing today...4 carries for -1 yds...not good.Cinci: Chad Johnson...growing trend of defenses gunning for him...the Bengals still lit the Steelers D up for 4 passing TDs...CJ owners took a big hit today. Pittsburgh: Hines Ward...2 rec for 17 yds...had a TD in the opener but Roth and the passing game are struggling so he is too.

No worries with the two stud WRs and the rook

I'm not sure that Hines Ward belongs in the "stud receiver" category anymore.

 

[Bevo]

There's a few here that nobody should worry about, and if their owners are, it's shopping time!

Carolina: DeAngelo Williams...Foster owners breathe a little relief as Williams did nothing today...4 carries for -1 yds...not good.Cinci: Chad Johnson...growing trend of defenses gunning for him...the Bengals still lit the Steelers D up for 4 passing TDs...CJ owners took a big hit today. Pittsburgh: Hines Ward...2 rec for 17 yds...had a TD in the opener but Roth and the passing game are struggling so he is too.

No worries with the two stud WRs and the rook

I'm not sure that Hines Ward belongs in the "stud receiver" category anymore.

Nor am I.What really has me concerned is that it appears that the Steelers are actively game planning him OUT of the offense. They appear to be turning him into a blocking WR only and looking anywhere else to throw the ball. In yesterday's game when Ben was having a lot of time to throw it appeared that Ben was looking at everyone else instead of Ward. I don't know if his hammy is still hurt and they don't want him to push it, they don't think he can make the big play anymore, he's more important blocking for FWP, or something else but he seems to have disappeared from the playbook. I hope I am wrong, but that is what it looks like to me after watching the 1st 3 weeks and especially after yesterday's game.WR #3 material, at best, until the Steelers find a reason to start looking for him again.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

It really depends on your expectations, but...

Cadillac Williams

Ronnie Brown

Kurt Warner

Thomas Jones

NYG defense

Chrissy Brown

Byron Leftwich

 

[Raider Nation]

There's a few here that nobody should worry about, and if their owners are, it's shopping time!

Carolina: DeAngelo Williams...Foster owners breathe a little relief as Williams did nothing today...4 carries for -1 yds...not good.Cinci: Chad Johnson...growing trend of defenses gunning for him...the Bengals still lit the Steelers D up for 4 passing TDs...CJ owners took a big hit today. Pittsburgh: Hines Ward...2 rec for 17 yds...had a TD in the opener but Roth and the passing game are struggling so he is too.

No worries with the two stud WRs and the rook

So, just to clarify:When Foster has a bad game, it's time to fire up "the rook's" bandwagon.When "the rook" gets almost no work, and looks dreadful in the little time that he IS on the field, it's all good.Is that about right?

 

[TommyGilmore]

I am asking myself if the loss of Chris Simms is a good or bad thing in relations to Carnell Williams moving forward.On one hand this may force Chucky to give Caddy the ball more to protect the new Qb.On the other hand the Qbing might get worse this creating more turnovers and defensive focus on stoping Williams.

I think it is very bad. I think the Bucs will try and sign someone this week to start instead of starting Gradkowski after the bye.

funny, i don't remember rattay being so horrible that he's not even being considered to replace simms.

Rattay averaged 218 yards/1.2 TDs/1.2 INTs the past 2 seasons -- slightly better than Simms' career numbers.

 

[jdoggydogg]

Culpepper took a step way back, more like a tumble then a sack. I am not positive that it is all Culpepper, since he is getting sacked as much as David Carr, but he sure looks immobile and awful.

I was waiting for this Tenn/Mia game before I judged Culpepper's prospects. I thought Miami would destroy Tenn. Culpepper just looked awful. The surguries that Culpepper went through are not much of an excuse at this point. Ask Carson Palmer and Drew Brees about that. I think Culpepper has a shot at putting up some stats this year, but no way would I start him until he proves he's able to use his weapons in Miami.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

There's a few here that nobody should worry about, and if their owners are, it's shopping time!

Carolina: DeAngelo Williams...Foster owners breathe a little relief as Williams did nothing today...4 carries for -1 yds...not good.Cinci: Chad Johnson...growing trend of defenses gunning for him...the Bengals still lit the Steelers D up for 4 passing TDs...CJ owners took a big hit today. Pittsburgh: Hines Ward...2 rec for 17 yds...had a TD in the opener but Roth and the passing game are struggling so he is too.

No worries with the two stud WRs and the rook

So, just to clarify:When Foster has a bad game, it's time to fire up "the rook's" bandwagon.When "the rook" gets almost no work, and looks dreadful in the little time that he IS on the field, it's all good.Is that about right?

 

[Otis]

i wouldnt say gore took a step back, unless his injury is serious. People are overlooking philly's defense. I had to start gore today basically and wish I didn't. They shut down the running game 3 weeks in a row now.

I don't think they really shut the running game down, that's the problem.Gore blew it on that goal line stand. I'm starting to wonder how much of this is mental now.If he punches in that TD from the 1, and they somehow ending up getting the two more TDs from the 1 later (and the 3rd down injury to Gore never happens and he stays in the game to continue playing, where he looked a lot more effective in the 2nd half), I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up with well over 100 total yards, including 100 rushing, and at least 2 TDs.Hardly shutting down the run game. I think Gore just blew a big opportunity, that's all. He'll need to bounce back and prove something next week.

 

[malice]

I think Galloway takes a huge step back, as well as Cadillac (if he can go back any more)- back will never get better if he's the one to take the brunt of the offense going forward. (sleeper: TE Alex Smith)

Tiki Barber- team is getting out of games early and the schedule is still tough going forward. Eli and the receivers are padding their stats in garbage time, but the team has to be in the game for Tiki to get solid RB #1 numbers.

Tom Brady- going to be hard to be a Pro Bowl QB with this supporting cast...frustration is starting to show.

 

[Raider Nation]

i wouldnt say gore took a step back, unless his injury is serious. People are overlooking philly's defense. I had to start gore today basically and wish I didn't. They shut down the running game 3 weeks in a row now.

I don't think they really shut the running game down, that's the problem.Gore blew it on that goal line stand. I'm starting to wonder how much of this is mental now.If he punches in that TD from the 1, and they somehow ending up getting the two more TDs from the 1 later (and the 3rd down injury to Gore never happens and he stays in the game to continue playing, where he looked a lot more effective in the 2nd half), I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up with well over 100 total yards, including 100 rushing, and at least 2 TDs.Hardly shutting down the run game. I think Gore just blew a big opportunity, that's all. He'll need to bounce back and prove something next week.

The thing I don't get is why did they run all three plays right up the gut at Philly's monsters inside? After it failed the second time, how about trying a pitch around the end or something? Let him use his shiftiness.

 

[-OZ-]

There's a few here that nobody should worry about, and if their owners are, it's shopping time!

Carolina: DeAngelo Williams...Foster owners breathe a little relief as Williams did nothing today...4 carries for -1 yds...not good.Cinci: Chad Johnson...growing trend of defenses gunning for him...the Bengals still lit the Steelers D up for 4 passing TDs...CJ owners took a big hit today. Pittsburgh: Hines Ward...2 rec for 17 yds...had a TD in the opener but Roth and the passing game are struggling so he is too.

No worries with the two stud WRs and the rook

So, just to clarify:When Foster has a bad game, it's time to fire up "the rook's" bandwagon.When "the rook" gets almost no work, and looks dreadful in the little time that he IS on the field, it's all good.Is that about right?

You do realize, I never said anything about Foster, right? I've believed D Williams is the better back long term, before he was drafted and stand by that. I didn't put much value for this year, so it doesn't change anything to me.

 

[mektarus]

It really depends on your expectations, but...

Cadillac Williams

Ronnie Brown

Kurt Warner

Thomas Jones

NYG defense

Chrissy Brown

Byron Leftwich

As a Benson owner I'd like to say that TJ took a step back today. However, I don't know what it's going to take for Benson to see some meaningful carries. Yesterday, in a tight divisional game with the running game floundering at less than 3 ypc (at least before the 17 yard run) Benson got 0 carries. Not even to give TJ a rest. WTH?! Is his injury still bothering him and they just aren't telling us? I don't get it. Yes, the Vikes are good against the run but even a few carries for a change of pace would seem to make sense.

 

[rascal]

Personally I think Benson took a bigger step backwards then T Jones did. The vikings have a very good, and vastly underrated d-line, and I didn't think T Jones would do much. But I did not expect Benson to not get a single touch.

 

[Otis]

i wouldnt say gore took a step back, unless his injury is serious. People are overlooking philly's defense. I had to start gore today basically and wish I didn't. They shut down the running game 3 weeks in a row now.

I don't think they really shut the running game down, that's the problem.Gore blew it on that goal line stand. I'm starting to wonder how much of this is mental now.If he punches in that TD from the 1, and they somehow ending up getting the two more TDs from the 1 later (and the 3rd down injury to Gore never happens and he stays in the game to continue playing, where he looked a lot more effective in the 2nd half), I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up with well over 100 total yards, including 100 rushing, and at least 2 TDs.Hardly shutting down the run game. I think Gore just blew a big opportunity, that's all. He'll need to bounce back and prove something next week.

The thing I don't get is why did they run all three plays right up the gut at Philly's monsters inside? After it failed the second time, how about trying a pitch around the end or something? Let him use his shiftiness.

I had the same exact thought. I did not like the play calling one bit. Why nut cut him to one side or the other, to give him a chance to trot into the end zone through open space the way a guy like Alexander does all the time.They actually did try one pitch, but the blocking was not what it could have been, forcing him to cut it back inside into a seam and getting the closest he did on all three attempts. Just wasn't enough.But, ultimately, I agree. I hated the calls.

 

[Eric Stratton]

It really depends on your expectations, but...Kurt Warner

:X

 

[thatguythere]

Kurt Warner... late fumbled exchange from center squanders a chance to win to the game, plus some a bad red zone INT (and a total of 3), and the "put in Leinart" talk starts. Leinart should not be on any waiver wires.

That INT in the end zone was the worst I have ever seen. The announcer commented on how he must have thrown to a Rams jersey like he was still playing for the Rams. Either that or the fix was on because there was no receiver around and the only ones in the game were TE's from what I remember. Why wouldn't you spread out the Defense and make them cover Fitz, Boldin, and B Johnson? Then run edge up in there on ONE play. Note to Denny Green:YOU ARE NOT A RUNNING TEAM!!! GET THE BALL TO YOUR WR'S OR YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE EVERY GAME.

Note to thatguythere:That running team was 1st and 10 at the STL 18 with 1:46 left and down only two. A fumbled snap is the only thing that kept that running team from winning the game yesterday.

Note to Limpy:The fumbled snap is the only thing that kept them from winning.....??? WOW! So the interception at the StL 6 yard line, the interception at mid field, and the interception in StL end zone didn't have anything to do with them losing? One TD and two FG's isn't out of the question if he doesn't panic and takes care of the ball. That's 27-16 IF StLouis even scores that much without the gifts. Warner can blame his Oline all he wants, but he had plenty of plays where he had an unlimited amount of time to throw the ball and still didn't perform. I don't care if you throw for 256 yds, when you give the ball away four times, you suck. Especially with the weapons at his disposal.I guess maybe they shouldn't be throwing the ball to Boldin and Fitz because by the looks of it Warner must be color blind....

 

[Limp Ditka]

Kurt Warner... late fumbled exchange from center squanders a chance to win to the game, plus some a bad red zone INT (and a total of 3), and the "put in Leinart" talk starts. Leinart should not be on any waiver wires.

That INT in the end zone was the worst I have ever seen. The announcer commented on how he must have thrown to a Rams jersey like he was still playing for the Rams. Either that or the fix was on because there was no receiver around and the only ones in the game were TE's from what I remember. Why wouldn't you spread out the Defense and make them cover Fitz, Boldin, and B Johnson? Then run edge up in there on ONE play. Note to Denny Green:

YOU ARE NOT A RUNNING TEAM!!! GET THE BALL TO YOUR WR'S OR YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE EVERY GAME.

Note to thatguythere:That running team was 1st and 10 at the STL 18 with 1:46 left and down only two. A fumbled snap is the only thing that kept that running team from winning the game yesterday.

Note to Limpy:The fumbled snap is the only thing that kept them from winning.....??? WOW!

So the interception at the StL 6 yard line, the interception at mid field, and the interception in StL end zone didn't have anything to do with them losing?

One TD and two FG's isn't out of the question if he doesn't panic and takes care of the ball. That's 27-16 IF StLouis even scores that much without the gifts. Warner can blame his Oline all he wants, but he had plenty of plays where he had an unlimited amount of time to throw the ball and still didn't perform. I don't care if you throw for 256 yds, when you give the ball away four times, you suck. Especially with the weapons at his disposal.

I guess maybe they shouldn't be throwing the ball to Boldin and Fitz because by the looks of it Warner must be color blind....

This is some funny stuff. You want them to pass the ball more, so they don't lose games, and you just gave me 3 more reasons as to why they lost the game and they all had something to do with the passing game.

 

[Redhots GM]

It really depends on your expectations, but...

Cadillac Williams

Ronnie Brown

Kurt Warner

Thomas Jones

NYG defense

Chrissy Brown

Byron Leftwich

As a Benson owner I'd like to say that TJ took a step back today. However, I don't know what it's going to take for Benson to see some meaningful carries. Yesterday, in a tight divisional game with the running game floundering at less than 3 ypc (at least before the 17 yard run) Benson got 0 carries. Not even to give TJ a rest. WTH?! Is his injury still bothering him and they just aren't telling us? I don't get it. Yes, the Vikes are good against the run but even a few carries for a change of pace would seem to make sense.

Word on the street is he can't block....

 

[Rhino]

What about Tiki Barber?14/64 rushing 4/14 receiving

He did grind out 78 yds and with PPR he posted about 12 for the weekend...not great but he showed up.

I meant to add if you are not in a PPR League....PPR can really make a difference on a player like Tiki.

I've got Tiki in a non-PPR league, and yesterday's performance was horrible. Granted, the Giants found themselves behind the Seahawks early yesterday so I expected Barber's numbers to suffer for it. But no TD's after three weeks has me a little concerned. He's definitely not performing up to the pick I used on him. (fourth overall)

 

[Ministry of Pain]

What about Tiki Barber?14/64 rushing 4/14 receiving

He did grind out 78 yds and with PPR he posted about 12 for the weekend...not great but he showed up.

I meant to add if you are not in a PPR League....PPR can really make a difference on a player like Tiki.

I've got Tiki in a non-PPR league, and yesterday's performance was horrible. Granted, the Giants found themselves behind the Seahawks early yesterday so I expected Barber's numbers to suffer for it. But no TD's after three weeks has me a little concerned. He's definitely not performing up to the pick I used on him. (fourth overall)

I think rushing yds and points are at a premium this season...thus Gore leading after 2 weeks. LJ, Shaun, Tiki, Portis...all of them have been upsetting for owners so far. It will get better as Portis now returns, LJ will get a few more TDs...Tiki will improve too.

 

[Britney Spears]

It really depends on your expectations, but...

Cadillac Williams

Ronnie Brown

Kurt Warner

Thomas Jones

NYG defense

Chrissy Brown

Byron Leftwich

As a Benson owner I'd like to say that TJ took a step back today. However, I don't know what it's going to take for Benson to see some meaningful carries. Yesterday, in a tight divisional game with the running game floundering at less than 3 ypc (at least before the 17 yard run) Benson got 0 carries. Not even to give TJ a rest. WTH?! Is his injury still bothering him and they just aren't telling us? I don't get it. Yes, the Vikes are good against the run but even a few carries for a change of pace would seem to make sense.

I also have been wondering what the deal is with Benson.Rumor is that he can't block as well as Thomas Jones, which is why he got no carries this week.

His YPC is worse than Jones, just like it was last year.

I just don't know that he's really giving the team a reason to put him in the game, despite the fact that Jones certainly isn't setting the world on fire.