Pompous Mercury Morris ESPN Interview (1 Viewer)

[Lock Daddy]

ESPN has been running an interview in which Mercury Morris goes on a rant about the Patriots' pursuit of the perfect season. Before viewing the inteview, I really didn't have much interest in whether the Pats pull it off or not. I now find myself hoping they do it based on the Morris interview. Does anyone else who saw the clip share this feeling?

I tried to find it on YouTube or ESPN, but I couldn't find the video.

 

[Limp Ditka]

ESPN has been running an interview in which Mercury Morris goes on a rant about the Patriots' pursuit of the perfect season. Before viewing the inteview, I really didn't have much interest in whether the Pats pull it off or not. I now find myself hoping they do it based on the Morris interview. Does anyone else who saw the clip share this feeling?I tried to find it on YouTube or ESPN, but I couldn't find the video.

He spewed the same crap when Indy was chasing a couple of years ago.The man personifies jagoff.

 

[greenline]

Can you summarize his statements?

 

[patrickmcgroin]

They didn't even have lines on the field when the dolphins did it. There were holes in the ground due to a landscapers strike. Even if the Patriots do win out, it won't be as impressive.

 

[IM666]

They didn't even have lines on the field when the dolphins did it. There were holes in the ground due to a landscapers strike. Even if the Patriots do win out, it won't be as impressive.

Not sure why lines on a field determines whether or not going undefeated is impressive. But, if it makes you feel better, there is always the Writers Guild of America strike.

 

[Keith Lewis]

Seriously, going undefeated in the salary cap era is a much bigger accomplishment than going undefeated in a non salary cap, 2 less game season.

 

[IM666]

I searched without any success. But I did find an article talking about Mercury Morris's rap CD:

Here's a dolfansites.com, which is a network of Miami Dolphin fan sites and blogs, exclusive. Former Dolphin great Mercury Morris is releasing an upcoming CD and he wanted us Dolphin sites to have the first "scoop" on this project. Earlier today, Doug from Phinatics.com got the chance to chat a bit with Morris, who gave us all the inside scoop on this project.

To hear the interview of Mercury Morris, which features a clip of the song, follow this link. To read the full lyrics, which are quite funny, click the "read more" link directly below.

Here are the lyrics to the song:

DON SHULA:

"I'M COACH DON SHULA AND I APPROVE THIS MESSAGE."

CHORUS

DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES

TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME

YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED

AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN

MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 1

PICTURE US LOSIN' TO ANOTHER TEAM WE PLAYED

WAY BACK IN THE DAY YOU SAID THE RECORD WAS MADE

WE POSTED UNDEFEATED STATS THAT NOBODY COULD MATCH

GOT PEOPLE LOOKIN' BACK AND SAYIN', "MAN, HOW'D THEY DO THAT?'

WELL THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE IF YOU BUSTERS JUST DO THE MATH

EVERYBODY GOT BEAT EACH TIME THEY STEPPED IN OUR PATH

YOU MIGHT SAY IT'S A FLUKE THE DOLPHINS WON EVERY GAME

SOMEBODY SHOW ME THE TEAM YOU SAY WHO'S RECORD'S THE SAME

WHAT?

WHEN YOU FINALLY SEE THE LIGHT AND THE TRUTH IS A MUST

THERE'S NOT ANOTHER TEAM INSIDE THE PERFECT CIRCLE BUT US

SINCE WE RAN THE TABLE ON `EM IT AIN'T BEEN THE SAME

YOU WANNA GO UNDEFEATED YOU GOT WIN EVERY GAME

I KNOW YOU WONDER!

CHORUS

DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME

YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED

IT AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN

MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 2

I KNOW YOU WONDER WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LACE UP THE SHOES OF A

PLAYER STEPPIN' ON THE FIELD WITHOUT A THING TO LOSE

THE BUSTERS POSIN' UP THE VIEW ON ESPN, ASKIN' ME THAT STUPID QUESTION,

"YOU THINK THEY'LL DO IT AGAIN?"

ONCE AGAIN I'M HOLDIN' SCHOOL ABOUT THE THOUGHT OF DEFEAT

I GOT NO LOSSES ON MY TABLE SO YOU CAN'T TAKE MY SEAT

MY PERFECT HISTORY WILL TELL YOU THAT THE RECORD'S COMPLETE

STAND UP! YOU BUSTER'S PLAYIN' IF YOU TASTED DEFEAT

EVERY YEAR THEY TRY TO BUST OUT TRYIN' TO CAPTURE THE CROWN

I BEEN TRYIN' TO TELL YOU BUSTERS, YOU CAN'T PLAY IN OUR TOWN

AND THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS STILL THE SAME

YOU WANNA GO UNDEFEATED YOU GOT TO WIN EVERY GAME

I KNOW YOU WONDER!

CHORUS

DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME?

YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED

OH, IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN!

HAVE YOU GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME?

OH, YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED

IT AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN!

MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 3

SO YOU CHALLENGE MY RECORD WITH A COMPUTER SCHEME?

USIN" NFL FILMS TO MAKE A FIELD OF DREAMS?

SO ON PAPER WE LOST TO ANOTHER TEAM?

BUT THAT WAS FANTASTY FOOTBALL, NOT THE REAL THING

OUR PARKIN' SPOT IS IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY'S RECORD BOOK

IF YOUR MEMORY IS HAZY, GO BACK AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK

AT THE STATS WE POSTED WHEN WE MADE THE CLIMB

TO THE TOP OF THE SPORTS WORLD, AND YOU CAN'T DENY

LOOK AT HOW MANY TIMES WE PUT UP THE CROWN

IT'S UP TO 35 YEARS AND WE'RE STILL AROUND

IT'S NOT A SECRET HOW WE DID IT, THE EQUATION'S THE SAME

YOU WANNA GO UNDEFEATED, YOU GOT TO WIN EVERY GAME

I KNOW YOU WONDER!

CHORUS

DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME?

IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN!

HAVE YOU GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME?

YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED!

IT AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN!

MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 4

NOW I'M INVITIN' ALL YOU BUSTERS TO A STATE OF PERFECTION

WHERE A LOSS IN A GAME IS AUTOMATIC REJECTION

YOU WANT TO COME DOWN AND JOIN US DOWN IN MIA?

JUST LIKE CHICAGO DID IN '85, THEY CAME TO PLAY

BUT THEY FORGOT THE JINX WAS ON WHEN THEY STEPPED OFF IN THE ROOM

THAT'S WHEN DANNY DUMPED UP ON `EM IN THE TEMPLE OF DOOM

SHULA PSYCHED `EM OUT TO PLAY LIKE IT WAS `72

SO THE PERFECT SEASON STAYED WITH THE PERFECT CREW

HOW COINCIDENTAL IS IT THAT THE BEARS ONLY TEST

WOULD BE TO COME DOWN TO MIAMI TO GET THAT WEIGHT OFF THEIR CHEST?

YOU KNOW YOU THE PATH TO GOIN' UNDEFEATED IS ALWAYS THE SAME

YOU WANNA GO UNDEFEATED, YOU BETTER REMEMBER MY NAME!

I KNOW YOU WONDER!

CHORUS

DO YOU KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME?

IT'S NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN!

HAVE YOU GOT WHAT IT TAKES TO GO AND WIN EVERY GAME?

YOU GOT TO GO UNDEFEATED!

MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 5

NOW LET ME END THIS CONVERSATION WITH SOME FRIENDLY ADVICE

SOME THINGS THAT HAPPEN ONCE IN A LIFE, THEY WON'T HAPPEN TWICE

SO DON'T TRY TO RUN THE TABLE; CAUSE BY YOU, THAT CAN'T BE DONE

YOU SEE, THE 16 STRAIGHT IN '72, WAS JUST TO PLAY IN ONE

HM-HM (CHUCKLE OF IRONY)

ANY GIVEN SUNDAY, PLAYER, EXCEPT IN `72

CHORUS

IT AIN'T NEVER GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN

MERCURY MORRIS VERSE 6

NOW GO ON ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS

COACH, FLIP THAT BAD BOY OVER SO THEY CAN GRADUATE

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[renesauz]

They didn't even have lines on the field when the dolphins did it. There were holes in the ground due to a landscapers strike. Even if the Patriots do win out, it won't be as impressive.

You have got to be kidding me????? I read somewhere that that specific Miami team faced what turns out to be the 2nd or 3rd EASIEST SCHEDULE IN NFL HISTORY, in a 14 game schedule, in the non-salary cap/free agency era. Honestly, a 14-2 season is just as impressive to me as Miami's undefeated season, and I CAN'T WAIT FOR A REAL TEAM TO GO UNBEATEN SO THAT WE CAN FINALLY BURY THE HATCHET ON THE ARROGANT FINS. (Even if that team has to be the Pats)

 

[Sopranos]

I think im in the minority when i say..Who cares if you win all your games. The Superbowl to me is the important one. It sucked when everone thought Indy would go undefeated,its all you would Hear on the Radio.. Its nothing. The ring is it. The MVP means nothing, winning the AFC means nothing..

And i know the Pats are great,im happy for them ,but they are LESS than half way there... Get back to me when they are on their first week Bye in the playoffs, then it will be worth talking about.

 

[purestrength]

The only thing that makes me want the Patriots to go undefeated in the regular season is watching the Colts (hopefully healthier than they are now) beat them in Foxboro in January.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Seriously, going undefeated in the salary cap era is a much bigger accomplishment than going undefeated in a non salary cap, 2 less game season.

Not really.

 

[Godsbrother]

I dislike the Patriots and hope they don't go undefeated.

That said, I dislike the '72 Dolphins more. They were a good team but they were fortunate to beat the Steelers in the playoffs. But whatever, they won the games so they deserved the accolades they got.

What I don't understand is why they feel the need to knock any team that is on pace to do the same. Even if the Patriots go undefeated it doesn't negate what the Dolphins did.

 

[shredhead]

Even if the Patriots go undefeated it doesn't negate what the Dolphins did.

That's a good point Godsbrother. Hopefully if the Pats do go undefeated they will show some class and not rag on future teams that chase a perfect season. Has anyone seen a post that says anything about the Patriots and class lately? Kinda ironic huh?

 

[timschochet]

Much as it pains me to say it, the Patriots achievement will be far greater, for these reasons:

1. 16 games.

2. Salary cap era.

3. The Patriots will have played Dallas, Indy, Pittsburgh,- excepting Green Bay, all of the other "elite" teams this year in football.

4. The Dolphins rarely threw the ball. They had a great defense, and a strong running game. They won the same way Jacksonville and Tennesee do this year. Unfortunately for the Jaguars, and Titans, they are currently in a league with several high-powered offenses (NE, Indy, Pitt, Dallas). These offenses are simply too much for teams like the Jaguars and Titans to handle. The 72 Dolphins never faced anything like that. If the 72 Dolphins were in today's leauge, even if the talent and skill levels were equal, they would still be in the same position as JVille and Tennessee.

 

[Jene Bramel]

Can you summarize his statements?

"They're comparing them [the Patriots] to a 17-0 team? If they were 17-0, but I think they are like 10 games short right now, right? They got 10 more icebergs to go through in this titanic trip that they're talking about. So far nobody's made it across their except us! (crazy look in eyes). So we're over docked here waiting on ya!"

"I'm telling ya I respect the Patriots if they do that, but right now they haven't done that. So come to me, like I said, don't call me me when you're in my town, call me when you're on my block and I see ya next door moving your furniture in, thats when I'll know you're going to the Championship and you're about to play. And if you win it I'll be dressed up in a tuxedo waiting on my bride."

Even more hilarious in video. I generally dislike the way the Dolphins go about celebrating their undefeated season every year -- just seems like a bunch of bitter old men -- but this absolutely cracked me up.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Even if the Patriots go undefeated it doesn't negate what the Dolphins did.

That's a good point Godsbrother. Hopefully if the Pats do go undefeated they will show some class and not rag on future teams that chase a perfect season. Has anyone seen a post that says anything about the Patriots and class lately? Kinda ironic huh?

I dont think that '72 players are "ragging" on anybody. Shula made the point that the Pats cheated - which anyone who is not in denial knows is a true statement. They not only illegally and unethically stole signals, but somehow the communication for the opposing team in Foxboro always seems to go out on them. Not sure exactly what Mercury Morris said, so I will reserve judgement on wheter or not he was "ragging" on them. Mercury has never been the brightest bulb in the chandelier though, so it would not surprize me. He was just one of 3 players in an amazing Miami backfield in '72 though, and just one player on a large roster, so I dont consider him representative of the team as a whole. As long as future teams do not cheat, I am sure that the Patriot players will not "rag" on them if in fact they do happen to go undefeated.

 

[Ron_Mexico]

Seems like Mercury Morris has way too much time on his hands these days.

 

[Boston]

Even if the Patriots go undefeated it doesn't negate what the Dolphins did.

That's a good point Godsbrother. Hopefully if the Pats do go undefeated they will show some class and not rag on future teams that chase a perfect season. Has anyone seen a post that says anything about the Patriots and class lately? Kinda ironic huh?

I dont think that '72 players are "ragging" on anybody. Shula made the point that the Pats cheated - which anyone who is not in denial knows is a true statement. They not only illegally and unethically stole signals, but somehow the communication for the opposing team in Foxboro always seems to go out on them. Not sure exactly what Mercury Morris said, so I will reserve judgement on wheter or not he was "ragging" on them. Mercury has never been the brightest bulb in the chandelier though, so it would not surprize me. He was just one of 3 players in an amazing Miami backfield in '72 though, and just one player on a large roster, so I dont consider him representative of the team as a whole. As long as future teams do not cheat, I am sure that the Patriot players will not "rag" on them if in fact they do happen to go undefeated.

Since the video was confiscated in the first half of the first game this year the cheating angle doesn't apply to 2007. If the bashers and homers want to fight it out pre-2007 they can go continue banging their heads against the wall. Yet, for this season the video angle is a moot point.As for the communication it's the same as the Colts piping in noise. It's nothing more than hearsay with zero legit evidence to back it up.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Has anyone seen a post that says anything about the Patriots and class lately? Kinda ironic huh?

No, it's telling.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Much as it pains me to say it, the Patriots achievement will be far greater, for these reasons:1. 16 games.2. Salary cap era.3. The Patriots will have played Dallas, Indy, Pittsburgh,- excepting Green Bay, all of the other "elite" teams this year in football.4. The Dolphins rarely threw the ball. They had a great defense, and a strong running game. They won the same way Jacksonville and Tennesee do this year. Unfortunately for the Jaguars, and Titans, they are currently in a league with several high-powered offenses (NE, Indy, Pitt, Dallas). These offenses are simply too much for teams like the Jaguars and Titans to handle. The 72 Dolphins never faced anything like that. If the 72 Dolphins were in today's leauge, even if the talent and skill levels were equal, they would still be in the same position as JVille and Tennessee.

Points 1,2, and 3 are fair points, but as far as the 4th point, I do not see the relevance. The game has evolved an incredible amount in 35 years. It is really not a fair comparison to compare any team from the 1970s with a team from 2007. As has been argued in other threads, it is very likely that the 0-9 2007 Dolphins would decisively beat the 1972 team today. Not only due to new and innovative schemes on both sides of the ball, but also due to the always-increasing size and speed of NFL players. In 1972, Miami had the best talent, coaching, and heart of any team in the NFL. They won most of their games that year with a backup QB. If Brady goes down, is Matt Cassell going to go undefeated? Praise the 2007 Pats all you want, but when people try to take anything away from the '72 Dolphins it seems silly to me. They went 17-0. I dont care if they threw 5 passes all year to do it. They still did it, and it is no less impressive because of it.

 

[Boston]

Even if the Patriots go undefeated it doesn't negate what the Dolphins did.

That's a good point Godsbrother. Hopefully if the Pats do go undefeated they will show some class and not rag on future teams that chase a perfect season. Has anyone seen a post that says anything about the Patriots and class lately? Kinda ironic huh?

Yeah, because when we talk about the great teams of the past we often discuss their class. It's a common thread most talking heads bring up when discussing the great teams of the past. You talk about the coaching, the defense, the offense and how classy they were. The class angle is always a huge talking-point in these discussions.

 

[ChuckLiddell]

Even if the Patriots go undefeated it doesn't negate what the Dolphins did.

That's a good point Godsbrother. Hopefully if the Pats do go undefeated they will show some class and not rag on future teams that chase a perfect season. Has anyone seen a post that says anything about the Patriots and class lately? Kinda ironic huh?

I dont think that '72 players are "ragging" on anybody. Shula made the point that the Pats cheated - which anyone who is not in denial knows is a true statement. They not only illegally and unethically stole signals, but somehow the communication for the opposing team in Foxboro always seems to go out on them. Not sure exactly what Mercury Morris said, so I will reserve judgement on wheter or not he was "ragging" on them. Mercury has never been the brightest bulb in the chandelier though, so it would not surprize me. He was just one of 3 players in an amazing Miami backfield in '72 though, and just one player on a large roster, so I dont consider him representative of the team as a whole. As long as future teams do not cheat, I am sure that the Patriot players will not "rag" on them if in fact they do happen to go undefeated.

Since the video was confiscated in the first half of the first game this year the cheating angle doesn't apply to 2007. If the bashers and homers want to fight it out pre-2007 they can go continue banging their heads against the wall. Yet, for this season the video angle is a moot point.As for the communication it's the same as the Colts piping in noise. It's nothing more than hearsay with zero legit evidence to back it up.

The fact that your screen name is "Boston" speaks volumes as to why you have formulated the opinions that you have. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I am a die hard Fins fan, so my opinion is obviously biased as well.I have many opinions that I am sure differ grealty from yours on the topic of "moot point", but I am thinking that there might be other threads to discuss that in.

 

[Boston]

Even if the Patriots go undefeated it doesn't negate what the Dolphins did.

That's a good point Godsbrother. Hopefully if the Pats do go undefeated they will show some class and not rag on future teams that chase a perfect season. Has anyone seen a post that says anything about the Patriots and class lately? Kinda ironic huh?

I dont think that '72 players are "ragging" on anybody. Shula made the point that the Pats cheated - which anyone who is not in denial knows is a true statement. They not only illegally and unethically stole signals, but somehow the communication for the opposing team in Foxboro always seems to go out on them. Not sure exactly what Mercury Morris said, so I will reserve judgement on wheter or not he was "ragging" on them. Mercury has never been the brightest bulb in the chandelier though, so it would not surprize me. He was just one of 3 players in an amazing Miami backfield in '72 though, and just one player on a large roster, so I dont consider him representative of the team as a whole. As long as future teams do not cheat, I am sure that the Patriot players will not "rag" on them if in fact they do happen to go undefeated.

Since the video was confiscated in the first half of the first game this year the cheating angle doesn't apply to 2007. If the bashers and homers want to fight it out pre-2007 they can go continue banging their heads against the wall. Yet, for this season the video angle is a moot point.As for the communication it's the same as the Colts piping in noise. It's nothing more than hearsay with zero legit evidence to back it up.

The fact that your screen name is "Boston" speaks volumes as to why you have formulated the opinions that you have. Not that there is anything wrong with that. I am a die hard Fins fan, so my opinion is obviously biased as well.I have many opinions that I am sure differ grealty from yours on the topic of "moot point", but I am thinking that there might be other threads to discuss that in.

My opinion is based on the facts. The Pats paid the price for videogate. They did what they did and the NFL acted accordingly. Whether it helped them or not is a a discussion that has already been beat to death. Yet, the cheating angle holds no water in 2007 and has nothing to do with their success this year.

 

[Mik789fl]

Even if the Patriots go undefeated it doesn't negate what the Dolphins did.

That's a good point Godsbrother. Hopefully if the Pats do go undefeated they will show some class and not rag on future teams that chase a perfect season. Has anyone seen a post that says anything about the Patriots and class lately? Kinda ironic huh?

Yes it is ironic. You can mention this Patriots team and class in the same sentance but that doesn't mean they have any.What's wrong with some '72 Dolphins defending their accomplishment and hoping no one equals it? Hank Aaron wasn't vilified for the home run chase when he obviously didn't want Bonds to beak it. The players that are talking are speaking thier mind,they don't want anyone to beat or equal what they did. They shouldn't be vilified for that. We're all speaking our minds here,aren't we?

 

[Rogi]

Can you summarize his statements?

"They're comparing them [the Patriots] to a 17-0 team? If they were 17-0, but I think they are like 10 games short right now, right? They got 10 more icebergs to go through in this titanic trip that they're talking about. So far nobody's made it across their except us! (crazy look in eyes). So we're over docked here waiting on ya!"

"I'm telling ya I respect the Patriots if they do that, but right now they haven't done that. So come to me, like I said, don't call me me when you're in my town, call me when you're on my block and I see ya next door moving your furniture in, thats when I'll know you're going to the Championship and you're about to play. And if you win it I'll be dressed up in a tuxedo waiting on my bride."

Even more hilarious in video. I generally dislike the way the Dolphins go about celebrating their undefeated season every year -- just seems like a bunch of bitter old men -- but this absolutely cracked me up.

What's so wrong with his comments? He has a point. Plus, he said he'd welcome them once they achieve an undefeated season.

 

[Bad_Mo]

I think im in the minority when i say..Who cares if you win all your games. The Superbowl to me is the important one. It sucked when everone thought Indy would go undefeated,its all you would Hear on the Radio.. Its nothing. The ring is it. The MVP means nothing, winning the AFC means nothing..And i know the Pats are great,im happy for them ,but they are LESS than half way there... Get back to me when they are on their first week Bye in the playoffs, then it will be worth talking about.

...says the Colts fan whose team has lost 2 games.

 

[jonessed]

Seems like Mercury Morris has way too much time on his hands these days.

Of course he does, he's retired.

 

[Steeler07]

Seriously, going undefeated in the salary cap era is a much bigger accomplishment than going undefeated in a non salary cap, 2 less game season.

Cheating also helps.But seriously, Bellicheat is a bigger jagoff than anyone related somehow to the NFL.

 

[twitch]

Man, the '72 Dolphins faced 2 teams in 14 games during the regular season with winning records, both 8-6. And neither of those made the playoffs. They didnt face a single playoff team during the regular season. They werent even favored in the Superbowl. New England has faced Dallas and Indy, and they still have to deal with Pittsburgh. Very likely 3 of the top 4 teams in the league. And overall, 6 of their 9 opponents have winning records. The miserable records of Miami and the Jets comletely skew their record's overall strength. Taking nothing away from Miami winning all their games that year. Obviously a phenomenal feat. But 2 winning teams and not one single playoff team? By comparison? Kindof speaks for itself.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Man, the '72 Dolphins faced 2 teams in 14 games during the regular season with winning records, both 8-6. And neither of those made the playoffs. They didnt face a single playoff team during the regular season. They werent even favored in the Superbowl. New England has faced Dallas and Indy, and they still have to deal with Pittsburgh. Very likely 3 of the top 4 teams in the league. And overall, 6 of their 9 opponents have winning records. The miserable records of Miami and the Jets comletely skew their record's overall strength. Taking nothing away from Miami winning all their games that year. Obviously a phenomenal feat. But 2 winning teams and not one single playoff team? By comparison? Kindof speaks for itself.

This isn't obvious toxic waste, but it is. Why? Detracting from Miami's accomplishments in the first two sentences, then saying "Taking nothing away from Miami winning all their games that year. Obviously a phenomenal feat." identifies this as the typical Patriot fan toxic waste.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Seriously, going undefeated in the salary cap era is a much bigger accomplishment than going undefeated in a non salary cap, 2 less game season.

Cheating also helps.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Man, the '72 Dolphins faced 2 teams in 14 games during the regular season with winning records, both 8-6. And neither of those made the playoffs. They didnt face a single playoff team during the regular season. They werent even favored in the Superbowl. New England has faced Dallas and Indy, and they still have to deal with Pittsburgh. Very likely 3 of the top 4 teams in the league. And overall, 6 of their 9 opponents have winning records. The miserable records of Miami and the Jets comletely skew their record's overall strength. Taking nothing away from Miami winning all their games that year. Obviously a phenomenal feat. But 2 winning teams and not one single playoff team? By comparison? Kindof speaks for itself.

This isn't obvious toxic waste, but it is. Why? Detracting from Miami's accomplishments in the first two sentences, then saying "Taking nothing away from Miami winning all their games that year. Obviously a phenomenal feat." identifies this as the typical Patriot fan toxic waste.

Exactly how much hate do you have in your heart?

 

[apalmer]

Can you summarize his statements?

"They're comparing them [the Patriots] to a 17-0 team? If they were 17-0, but I think they are like 10 games short right now, right? They got 10 more icebergs to go through in this titanic trip that they're talking about. So far nobody's made it across their except us! (crazy look in eyes). So we're over docked here waiting on ya!"

"I'm telling ya I respect the Patriots if they do that, but right now they haven't done that. So come to me, like I said, don't call me me when you're in my town, call me when you're on my block and I see ya next door moving your furniture in, thats when I'll know you're going to the Championship and you're about to play. And if you win it I'll be dressed up in a tuxedo waiting on my bride."

Even more hilarious in video. I generally dislike the way the Dolphins go about celebrating their undefeated season every year -- just seems like a bunch of bitter old men -- but this absolutely cracked me up.

What's so wrong with his comments? He has a point. Plus, he said he'd welcome them once they achieve an undefeated season.

I agree. How do you think Belichick would respond if a reporter asked him, "Well, now that the Colts are on their way to winning back to back Super Bowls how do you compare them to your team's achivements?" I'm guessing he'd say about the same thing: "Hey, they're halfway there. Why are you aksing me this now? When/if they do it I'll congratulate them."

 

[jpeace121]

The problem is with his attitude. Its in his delivery and his dismissive tone. He knows that if the Pats go undefeated it is an achievement that will eclipse what the '72 team did. Unfortunately, all he's doing is giving them more bulletin board material that can only help motivate an already very motivated team.

He seriously needs to shut the eff up. I utterly and completely can't stand the Patriots, and I'm starting to want to see them do it just to shut that whole '72 team up.

 

[pats3in4]

Mercury Morris's team walked the walk, so he can talk the talk. The interview was funny. For obvious reasons, I'm hoping the Pats go undefeated and can temper his shtick.

 

[phthalatemagic]

Man, the '72 Dolphins faced 2 teams in 14 games during the regular season with winning records, both 8-6. And neither of those made the playoffs. They didnt face a single playoff team during the regular season. They werent even favored in the Superbowl. New England has faced Dallas and Indy, and they still have to deal with Pittsburgh. Very likely 3 of the top 4 teams in the league. And overall, 6 of their 9 opponents have winning records. The miserable records of Miami and the Jets comletely skew their record's overall strength. Taking nothing away from Miami winning all their games that year. Obviously a phenomenal feat. But 2 winning teams and not one single playoff team? By comparison? Kindof speaks for itself.

This isn't obvious toxic waste, but it is. Why? Detracting from Miami's accomplishments in the first two sentences, then saying "Taking nothing away from Miami winning all their games that year. Obviously a phenomenal feat." identifies this as the typical Patriot fan toxic waste.

Exactly how much hate do you have in your heart?

It increases with the birth of each toxic waste perpetuator.

 

[Sopranos]

I think im in the minority when i say..Who cares if you win all your games. The Superbowl to me is the important one. It sucked when everone thought Indy would go undefeated,its all you would Hear on the Radio.. Its nothing. The ring is it. The MVP means nothing, winning the AFC means nothing..And i know the Pats are great,im happy for them ,but they are LESS than half way there... Get back to me when they are on their first week Bye in the playoffs, then it will be worth talking about.

...says the Colts fan whose team has lost 2 games.

Thats the point. I was there a few years ago and it sucked. I want the colts to make the playoffs, thats it. 1st or last spot, i dont care. We won it when we werent as good as when we were the first seed. Losing makes you hungry. The Colts need that. If the Pats can stay focused,good, but the Colts struggle when they are on top..I look at what Pitts. did a few years ago and what the Colts did last season. Your either going to win or not. Homefield isnt as big as i thought it was a few years back. Ask the Chargers or ask the Colts when Pitts ripped through Indy.You have it or you dont.Simple as that

 

[TD Ryan]

as a Pats fan, I don't mind the '72 Dolphins taking a "come talk to me if and when they do it" attitude.

I also don't mind the idea that MIA's perfect season can't necessarily be "beaten" only that another undefeated team can join their elite club who's membership is currently 1.

and I don't mind the champagne toasts.

But, to claim that an undefeated regular season means nothing is inaccurate IMO. Yes, the SB victory is all important, but for a team like NE who has 3 recent rings, going undefeated in the regular season would be just another highlight on their resume, a highlight on par with the 21 straight wins. If the Pats go undefeated in the regular season and lose in the playoffs, it won't be armageddon for me (or most NE fans). If NE doesn't already have the 3 rings, they have to rest starters and play solely for that elusive championship much like the Colts did. But with all their success this decade, they've created a perfect environment that will let them go for it and if they fall short not get crucified.

I find it laughable the Patriot detractors would somehow try to paint a perfect regular season as a "negative" for NE if they don't win the SuperBowl.

 

[twitch]

Man, the '72 Dolphins faced 2 teams in 14 games during the regular season with winning records, both 8-6. And neither of those made the playoffs. They didnt face a single playoff team during the regular season. They werent even favored in the Superbowl. New England has faced Dallas and Indy, and they still have to deal with Pittsburgh. Very likely 3 of the top 4 teams in the league. And overall, 6 of their 9 opponents have winning records. The miserable records of Miami and the Jets comletely skew their record's overall strength. Taking nothing away from Miami winning all their games that year. Obviously a phenomenal feat. But 2 winning teams and not one single playoff team? By comparison? Kindof speaks for itself.

This isn't obvious toxic waste, but it is. Why? Detracting from Miami's accomplishments in the first two sentences, then saying "Taking nothing away from Miami winning all their games that year. Obviously a phenomenal feat." identifies this as the typical Patriot fan toxic waste.

Exactly how much hate do you have in your heart?

It increases with the birth of each toxic waste perpetuator.

Spill some of that waste on your face? Looks painful.

 

[pats3in4]

But, to claim that an undefeated regular season means nothing is inaccurate IMO. Yes, the SB victory is all important, but for a team like NE who has 3 recent rings, going undefeated in the regular season would be just another highlight on their resume, a highlight on par with the 21 straight wins. If the Pats go undefeated in the regular season and lose in the playoffs, it won't be armageddon for me (or most NE fans). If NE doesn't already have the 3 rings, they have to rest starters and play solely for that elusive championship much like the Colts did. But with all their success this decade, they've created a perfect environment that will let them go for it and if they fall short no get crucified.I find it laughable the Patriot detractors would somehow try to paint a perfect regular season a "negative" for NE if they don't win the SuperBowl.

Pats fan here...it's gonna suck if they go undefeated in the regular season and lose in the playoffs. Don't kid yourself.

 

[twitch]

I think im in the minority when i say..Who cares if you win all your games. The Superbowl to me is the important one. It sucked when everone thought Indy would go undefeated,its all you would Hear on the Radio.. Its nothing. The ring is it. The MVP means nothing, winning the AFC means nothing..And i know the Pats are great,im happy for them ,but they are LESS than half way there... Get back to me when they are on their first week Bye in the playoffs, then it will be worth talking about.

...says the Colts fan whose team has lost 2 games.

Thats the point. I was there a few years ago and it sucked. I want the colts to make the playoffs, thats it. 1st or last spot, i dont care. We won it when we werent as good as when we were the first seed. Losing makes you hungry. The Colts need that. If the Pats can stay focused,good, but the Colts struggle when they are on top..I look at what Pitts. did a few years ago and what the Colts did last season. Your either going to win or not. Homefield isnt as big as i thought it was a few years back. Ask the Chargers or ask the Colts when Pitts ripped through Indy.You have it or you dont.Simple as that

Pittsburgh and New England werent dome teams playing without their best defensive player. Those teams were built to win on the road in the playoffs. The Colts without Freeney? not so much.

 

[TD Ryan]

Pats fan here...it's gonna suck if they go undefeated in the regular season and lose in the playoffs. Don't kid yourself.

I really don't feel that way.edit: yes it will suck, but it doesn't suck "more" because they were undefeated in the regular season.

At this point, it's all about the body of work that this team has put together in the Kraft/BB/Brady era.

I'd rather they achieve an undefeated regular season and lose in the playoffs than go 14-2 and lose in the playoffs.

that undefeated regular season will only help elevate the legacy of the team much like the 21 straight did.

 

[freelander]

But, to claim that an undefeated regular season means nothing is inaccurate IMO. Yes, the SB victory is all important, but for a team like NE who has 3 recent rings, going undefeated in the regular season would be just another highlight on their resume, a highlight on par with the 21 straight wins. If the Pats go undefeated in the regular season and lose in the playoffs, it won't be armageddon for me (or most NE fans). If NE doesn't already have the 3 rings, they have to rest starters and play solely for that elusive championship much like the Colts did. But with all their success this decade, they've created a perfect environment that will let them go for it and if they fall short no get crucified.I find it laughable the Patriot detractors would somehow try to paint a perfect regular season a "negative" for NE if they don't win the SuperBowl.

Pats fan here...it's gonna suck if they go undefeated in the regular season and lose in the playoffs. Don't kid yourself.

...especially if due to unecessary late season injury to Brady or the rest of the bunch

 

[ChromeWeasel]

I think im in the minority when i say..Who cares if you win all your games. The Superbowl to me is the important one. It sucked when everone thought Indy would go undefeated,its all you would Hear on the Radio.. Its nothing. The ring is it. The MVP means nothing, winning the AFC means nothing..And i know the Pats are great,im happy for them ,but they are LESS than half way there... Get back to me when they are on their first week Bye in the playoffs, then it will be worth talking about.

...says the Colts fan whose team has lost 2 games.

Thats the point. I was there a few years ago and it sucked. I want the colts to make the playoffs, thats it. 1st or last spot, i dont care. We won it when we werent as good as when we were the first seed. Losing makes you hungry. The Colts need that. If the Pats can stay focused,good, but the Colts struggle when they are on top..I look at what Pitts. did a few years ago and what the Colts did last season. Your either going to win or not. Homefield isnt as big as i thought it was a few years back. Ask the Chargers or ask the Colts when Pitts ripped through Indy.You have it or you dont.Simple as that

I agree that you need to be hungry. That's why I love the fact that the Pats have scored so many points. Brady was pissed off at the end of the Redskins game because of a relatively meaningless false start penalty. I saw that and said "These guys have the fire in them to go undefeated this season!" That's saying a lot, its not easy to stay focuses when you're on top.This is one of the things people arent going to get. The pats may look like they are running up the score, and people can call it poor sportsmanship. But you arent going to win "meaningless" game at the end of the regular season without having a take no prisoners attitude. They are trying to make history this year. I think this team has the attitude and talent to do it. And for better or worse, the more people that critique the Pats for cameragate, or running up the score, or anything else, the more this team will be motivated to stick it back in everyone's face.Good for them.

 

[Sopranos]

Pats fan here...it's gonna suck if they go undefeated in the regular season and lose in the playoffs. Don't kid yourself.

I really don't feel that way.At this point, it's all about the body of work that this team has put together in the Kraft/BB/Brady era.I'd rather they achieve an undefeated regular season and lose in the playoffs than go 14-2 and lose in the playoffs.that undefeated regular season will only help elevate the legacy of the team much like the 21 straight did.

Wouldnt you rather go 15-1 and win another ring? Thats his point

 

[TD Ryan]

Wouldnt you rather go 15-1 and win another ring? Thats his point

sure.but I absolutely want them to go for the undefeated season right now.I think most Pats fans do.I'm not sure the the Colts fans felt that way (understandably).Just getting the elusive ring was first and foremost.

 

[Wrigley]

I don't hate the old Pompous Dolphins any more than I now hate the pompous NE Patriots.

 

[NoFBinLA]

Can you summarize his statements?

"They're comparing them [the Patriots] to a 17-0 team? If they were 17-0, but I think they are like 10 games short right now, right? They got 10 more icebergs to go through in this titanic trip that they're talking about. So far nobody's made it across their except us! (crazy look in eyes). So we're over docked here waiting on ya!"

"I'm telling ya I respect the Patriots if they do that, but right now they haven't done that. So come to me, like I said, don't call me me when you're in my town, call me when you're on my block and I see ya next door moving your furniture in, thats when I'll know you're going to the Championship and you're about to play. And if you win it I'll be dressed up in a tuxedo waiting on my bride."

Even more hilarious in video. I generally dislike the way the Dolphins go about celebrating their undefeated season every year -- just seems like a bunch of bitter old men -- but this absolutely cracked me up.

Agreed.Based on the ealier posts in this thread I would it would be much more d-baggy - instead, it was just funny.

 

[dslaw]

I don't see too much wrong with what he said. I would have tempered the "they're not even halfway there yet" part but he did say he would welcome them if they did it. Why is everyone telling him to shut up? If he just called up a TV station and started talking then maybe those people are right. But if someone set up an interview and he agreed and answered questions that got published what is wrong with that?

I also don't why the hate is coming from some Pats fans. No need to put down the '72 team. They only beat 2 teams with winning records? Well they beat all 14 they played. That has been done 2 or 3 times in history. Miami had 8 division games & 6 non-divison. Of the 6 non-division games they had two teams over .500 & 1 teams at .500. Someone said the Pats overall schedule is better if you throw out the Miami & Jets records since they are so bad. Well, if you throw out the division games the Dolphins opponents don't look so bad.

Miami went 3-0 in the playoffs. Someone said they shouldn't have beat the Steelers. But they did. Someone said they weren't even favored in the Super Bowl. Well they won. I am a 'Skins fan so I hate the fact that they won but they did. Winning every game and the championship has been done exactly once in the NFL so I don't think it is as easy as getting an easy schedule one year and then running the table.

And if the Pats go 19-0 I will hate them because they will have beaten the Skins twice (ok, probably only once). But I will also know that I have seen two great teams go undefeated, the only two times it has ever happened.

 

[PahtyTom]

If this year's Patriots played the 72' Dolphins they'd destroy them.