Portis Hurt (1 Viewer)

[crowe1130]

Correct me if I am wrong, but there have been zero reports of any ligament damage or damage to the "socket" itself, correct??

Correct. It was only a partial dislocation which went back in on its own, and he will begin rehab immediately after the pain/swelling reduces.

I think we have too many doomsdaymen here. Barring any significant setback in rehab, i see no reason based on this injury for Portis' projected stats to suffer.While I have dropped him from my #2 RB to #4, I will not hesitate at this point to grab him at #5 and #8 in my drafts respectively. I almost wish they were this week.

I had resigned myself to "settling" for Tiki at #5, but now I think I will have a chance to get Portis there. As long as we don't hear anything more negative than what's already out there, I'm going to roll the dice too.

 

[GDogg]

I'm drafting #4, but not for another week and a half. Portis is my guy (unless one of the top 3 RB's falls for some reason) unless news comes out by that time, and his injury is much worse.

Otherwise, I might just draft Steven Jackson at 4. I think Tiki is due for a down year. Then again, I've thought that for the last 3 seasons. I'm bound to be right at some point.

 

[Rounders]

KFFL reported - he saw a doctor and had it examined and there is no signifigant damage ! He will likely return for first game. Seperation grade 1

I have been following the Portis situation closely, isn't the Grade 1 Seperation the best possible news that we could have gotten about this shoulder? Meaning, knowing that his shoulder is hurt, this is the best case scenario? Right?

 

[dgreen]

KFFL reported - he saw a doctor and had it examined and there is no signifigant damage ! He will likely return for first game. Seperation grade 1

I have been following the Portis situation closely, isn't the Grade 1 Seperation the best possible news that we could have gotten about this shoulder? Meaning, knowing that his shoulder is hurt, this is the best case scenario? Right?

Right. But, luckily for you, many people seem to still be dropping Portis to round 20 somewhere between Curtis Enis and Blair Thomas.

 

[The Moz]

KFFL reported - he saw a doctor and had it examined and there is no signifigant damage ! He will likely return for first game. Seperation grade 1

I have been following the Portis situation closely, isn't the Grade 1 Seperation the best possible news that we could have gotten about this shoulder? Meaning, knowing that his shoulder is hurt, this is the best case scenario? Right?

right now we know it doesn't require surgery just rest -- it is looking like nothing major at all ! !

 

[Da Guru]

KFFL reported - he saw a doctor and had it examined and there is no signifigant damage ! He will likely return for first game. Seperation grade 1

I have been following the Portis situation closely, isn't the Grade 1 Seperation the best possible news that we could have gotten about this shoulder? Meaning, knowing that his shoulder is hurt, this is the best case scenario? Right?

right now we know it doesn't require surgery just rest -- it is looking like nothing major at all ! !

Could be weakened most of the season though. Portis also hurt this shoulder late last year as well...not good.

 

[FBGPoker]

As a Portis owner in a league where i wanted a challenge this is bad news.

Was hoping he would be out for a few months so i wouldn't run over the league right away.

 

[Da Guru]

As a Portis owner in a league where i wanted a challenge this is bad news.Was hoping he would be out for a few months so i wouldn't run over the league right away.

If you hand cuffed Betts you will be OK..

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Blogger:

August 16, 2006, 07:25 Redskins :: RBRedskins Devising Plans To Limit RB PortisRyan O'Halloran, Washington Times - [Full Article]"With RB Ladell Betts and RB Rock Cartwright, and the way things are set up, we can definitely have success with them," running backs coach Earnest Byner said. Because when RB Clinton Portis does return, it's unlikely he will stay 100 percent for long. And Byner said discussions already are under way to create ways to limit Portis' punishment. "That's one of the aspects we have to consider," Byner said. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so and possibly taking some of the pounding off him."

 

[redman]

Blogger:

August 16, 2006, 07:25 Redskins :: RBRedskins Devising Plans To Limit RB PortisRyan O'Halloran, Washington Times - [Full Article]"With RB Ladell Betts and RB Rock Cartwright, and the way things are set up, we can definitely have success with them," running backs coach Earnest Byner said. Because when RB Clinton Portis does return, it's unlikely he will stay 100 percent for long. And Byner said discussions already are under way to create ways to limit Portis' punishment. "That's one of the aspects we have to consider," Byner said. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so and possibly taking some of the pounding off him."

Portis does not shy away from contact on any of his carries, so I'm not sure what they can do here. What concerns me now as a fantasy player is that they may limit him at the goalline. Cartwright has been merely passable at the goalline, so Betts may be the beneficiary of some goalline TD's that he wouldn't otherwise have.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Blogger:

August 16, 2006, 07:25 Redskins :: RBRedskins Devising Plans To Limit RB PortisRyan O'Halloran, Washington Times - [Full Article]"With RB Ladell Betts and RB Rock Cartwright, and the way things are set up, we can definitely have success with them," running backs coach Earnest Byner said. Because when RB Clinton Portis does return, it's unlikely he will stay 100 percent for long. And Byner said discussions already are under way to create ways to limit Portis' punishment. "That's one of the aspects we have to consider," Byner said. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so and possibly taking some of the pounding off him."

Portis does not shy away from contact on any of his carries, so I'm not sure what they can do here. What concerns me now as a fantasy player is that they may limit him at the goalline. Cartwright has been merely passable at the goalline, so Betts may be the beneficiary of some goalline TD's that he wouldn't otherwise have.

Goalline carries is what crossed my mind, too.

 

[TheLaw]

Blogger:

August 16, 2006, 07:25 Redskins :: RBRedskins Devising Plans To Limit RB PortisRyan O'Halloran, Washington Times - [Full Article]"With RB Ladell Betts and RB Rock Cartwright, and the way things are set up, we can definitely have success with them," running backs coach Earnest Byner said. Because when RB Clinton Portis does return, it's unlikely he will stay 100 percent for long. And Byner said discussions already are under way to create ways to limit Portis' punishment. "That's one of the aspects we have to consider," Byner said. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so and possibly taking some of the pounding off him."

Portis does not shy away from contact on any of his carries, so I'm not sure what they can do here. What concerns me now as a fantasy player is that they may limit him at the goalline. Cartwright has been merely passable at the goalline, so Betts may be the beneficiary of some goalline TD's that he wouldn't otherwise have.

Goalline carries is what crossed my mind, too.

While this blogger news is certainly not good for Portis if they really limit him, I still think it is all predicated on how the shoulder reacts to the rehab. We have the least severe type of sublex/dislocation here. We have no word on damage within the socket or ligament issues. If Portis is painfree and has range of motion by Sept. 11 I doubt they limit his carries any further than the original plan for the season.

 

[Rounders]

I have been real high on Portis this season, I have had him as my RB1 all pre-season, but he has really turned into the ultimate high risk/high reward player.

I can't help but think that Portis will be at 80%-90% for much of the first month of the season, and that Betts will get the majority of goalline carries during that span. If that's true and Betts proves to be effective at the goalline, I can't imagine Portis getting the ball inside the ball with a bad shoulder for the rest of the season.

Another area of concern: how much can his shoulder improve during the season? I mean after he get's tackled I can't imagine that his shoulder will get much better. He's really one tackle away from missing the entire season. I know that every player is "one play away", but the odds for Portis missing time have been greatly increased.

As big of a fan as I have been of Portis (and I sit in the 4 spot), I really don't think that he's worth the selection. Call it personal preference, but I keep recalling the old saying "You can't win your fantasy league with your first round pick, but you can sure lose it".

Now if you are sitting in the 4 spot and you welcome the risk/reward so be it, but for me I have to think with my head and not my heart and for me that means that Barber is my choice this season at the 4 spot.

 

[redman]

FYI - A camp blogger on Extremeskins.com attending camp today reported that trainer Bubba Tyer commented on Portis:

- Of Clinton Portis Bubba stated, "We have a shot to get him back for the opener."

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I have been real high on Portis this season, I have had him as my RB1 all pre-season, but he has really turned into the ultimate high risk/high reward player.I can't help but think that Portis will be at 80%-90% for much of the first month of the season, and that Betts will get the majority of goalline carries during that span. If that's true and Betts proves to be effective at the goalline, I can't imagine Portis getting the ball inside the ball with a bad shoulder for the rest of the season.Another area of concern: how much can his shoulder improve during the season? I mean after he get's tackled I can't imagine that his shoulder will get much better. He's really one tackle away from missing the entire season. I know that every player is "one play away", but the odds for Portis missing time have been greatly increased.As big of a fan as I have been of Portis (and I sit in the 4 spot), I really don't think that he's worth the selection. Call it personal preference, but I keep recalling the old saying "You can't win your fantasy league with your first round pick, but you can sure lose it".Now if you are sitting in the 4 spot and you welcome the risk/reward so be it, but for me I have to think with my head and not my heart and for me that means that Barber is my choice this season at the 4 spot.

EXACTLY.He was pissed after the game, remember the comments? I put more credence in that actually, than the coaches who are merely hopeful (going into a season).I am surpriised people haven't moved him into that 3rd tier, and the bottom at that. I think they are too stubborn, hopeful or just in denial about dropping him into that next tier.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

I have been real high on Portis this season, I have had him as my RB1 all pre-season, but he has really turned into the ultimate high risk/high reward player.I can't help but think that Portis will be at 80%-90% for much of the first month of the season, and that Betts will get the majority of goalline carries during that span. If that's true and Betts proves to be effective at the goalline, I can't imagine Portis getting the ball inside the ball with a bad shoulder for the rest of the season.Another area of concern: how much can his shoulder improve during the season? I mean after he get's tackled I can't imagine that his shoulder will get much better. He's really one tackle away from missing the entire season. I know that every player is "one play away", but the odds for Portis missing time have been greatly increased.As big of a fan as I have been of Portis (and I sit in the 4 spot), I really don't think that he's worth the selection. Call it personal preference, but I keep recalling the old saying Now if you are sitting in the 4 spot and you welcome the risk/reward so be it, but for me I have to think with my head and not my heart and for me that means that Barber is my choice this season at the 4 spot.

EXACTLY.He was pissed after the game, remember the comments? I put more credence in that actually, than the coaches who are merely hopeful (going into a season).I am surpriised people haven't moved him into that 3rd tier, and the bottom at that. I think they are too stubborn, hopeful or just in denial about dropping him into that next tier.

RE Portis-Good points. I hope he falls to the second round. I'd love to have him there and have him be my top rb. Re-"You can't win your fantasy league with your first round pick, but you can sure lose it".It's just a saying. You CAN win with a great year out of your first round pick. Guys like Faulk, Priest, LT and Alexander proved as much (how many times have I read on these very forums "I rode xxxx all the way to the title?). And if you lose because of a bad pick in round one, you probably didn't draft too well in the other rounds. Bottom line-it's just an old saying. Not much validity to it.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

I have been real high on Portis this season, I have had him as my RB1 all pre-season, but he has really turned into the ultimate high risk/high reward player.I can't help but think that Portis will be at 80%-90% for much of the first month of the season, and that Betts will get the majority of goalline carries during that span. If that's true and Betts proves to be effective at the goalline, I can't imagine Portis getting the ball inside the ball with a bad shoulder for the rest of the season.Another area of concern: how much can his shoulder improve during the season? I mean after he get's tackled I can't imagine that his shoulder will get much better. He's really one tackle away from missing the entire season. I know that every player is "one play away", but the odds for Portis missing time have been greatly increased.As big of a fan as I have been of Portis (and I sit in the 4 spot), I really don't think that he's worth the selection. Call it personal preference, but I keep recalling the old saying "You can't win your fantasy league with your first round pick, but you can sure lose it".Now if you are sitting in the 4 spot and you welcome the risk/reward so be it, but for me I have to think with my head and not my heart and for me that means that Barber is my choice this season at the 4 spot.

EXACTLY.He was pissed after the game, remember the comments? I put more credence in that actually, than the coaches who are merely hopeful (going into a season).I am surpriised people haven't moved him into that 3rd tier, and the bottom at that. I think they are too stubborn, hopeful or just in denial about dropping him into that next tier.

He was pissed the day after the game as well. His reasoning was that he didn't/doesn't think a player of his caliber should be playing in preseason. Not sure if I agree but there are some top backs who rarely, if ever, play in the preseason. LT and Edge come to mind.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

I have been real high on Portis this season, I have had him as my RB1 all pre-season, but he has really turned into the ultimate high risk/high reward player.I can't help but think that Portis will be at 80%-90% for much of the first month of the season, and that Betts will get the majority of goalline carries during that span. If that's true and Betts proves to be effective at the goalline, I can't imagine Portis getting the ball inside the ball with a bad shoulder for the rest of the season.Another area of concern: how much can his shoulder improve during the season? I mean after he get's tackled I can't imagine that his shoulder will get much better. He's really one tackle away from missing the entire season. I know that every player is "one play away", but the odds for Portis missing time have been greatly increased.As big of a fan as I have been of Portis (and I sit in the 4 spot), I really don't think that he's worth the selection. Call it personal preference, but I keep recalling the old saying "You can't win your fantasy league with your first round pick, but you can sure lose it".Now if you are sitting in the 4 spot and you welcome the risk/reward so be it, but for me I have to think with my head and not my heart and for me that means that Barber is my choice this season at the 4 spot.

EXACTLY.He was pissed after the game, remember the comments? I put more credence in that actually, than the coaches who are merely hopeful (going into a season).I am surpriised people haven't moved him into that 3rd tier, and the bottom at that. I think they are too stubborn, hopeful or just in denial about dropping him into that next tier.

What about ole doc Andrews? How much credence are you giving his comments on the situation?

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I have been real high on Portis this season, I have had him as my RB1 all pre-season, but he has really turned into the ultimate high risk/high reward player.I can't help but think that Portis will be at 80%-90% for much of the first month of the season, and that Betts will get the majority of goalline carries during that span. If that's true and Betts proves to be effective at the goalline, I can't imagine Portis getting the ball inside the ball with a bad shoulder for the rest of the season.Another area of concern: how much can his shoulder improve during the season? I mean after he get's tackled I can't imagine that his shoulder will get much better. He's really one tackle away from missing the entire season. I know that every player is "one play away", but the odds for Portis missing time have been greatly increased.As big of a fan as I have been of Portis (and I sit in the 4 spot), I really don't think that he's worth the selection. Call it personal preference, but I keep recalling the old saying "You can't win your fantasy league with your first round pick, but you can sure lose it".Now if you are sitting in the 4 spot and you welcome the risk/reward so be it, but for me I have to think with my head and not my heart and for me that means that Barber is my choice this season at the 4 spot.

EXACTLY.He was pissed after the game, remember the comments? I put more credence in that actually, than the coaches who are merely hopeful (going into a season).I am surpriised people haven't moved him into that 3rd tier, and the bottom at that. I think they are too stubborn, hopeful or just in denial about dropping him into that next tier.

He was pissed the day after the game as well. His reasoning was that he didn't/doesn't think a player of his caliber should be playing in preseason. Not sure if I agree but there are some top backs who rarely, if ever, play in the preseason. LT and Edge come to mind.

He was pissed because he thinks his season COULD be in jeopardy, while his shoulder sits in a sling. That's how I see it. And I agree with him on the "too many preseason games" thing, but we are talking FF here.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

I have been real high on Portis this season, I have had him as my RB1 all pre-season, but he has really turned into the ultimate high risk/high reward player.I can't help but think that Portis will be at 80%-90% for much of the first month of the season, and that Betts will get the majority of goalline carries during that span. If that's true and Betts proves to be effective at the goalline, I can't imagine Portis getting the ball inside the ball with a bad shoulder for the rest of the season.Another area of concern: how much can his shoulder improve during the season? I mean after he get's tackled I can't imagine that his shoulder will get much better. He's really one tackle away from missing the entire season. I know that every player is "one play away", but the odds for Portis missing time have been greatly increased.As big of a fan as I have been of Portis (and I sit in the 4 spot), I really don't think that he's worth the selection. Call it personal preference, but I keep recalling the old saying Now if you are sitting in the 4 spot and you welcome the risk/reward so be it, but for me I have to think with my head and not my heart and for me that means that Barber is my choice this season at the 4 spot.

EXACTLY.He was pissed after the game, remember the comments? I put more credence in that actually, than the coaches who are merely hopeful (going into a season).I am surpriised people haven't moved him into that 3rd tier, and the bottom at that. I think they are too stubborn, hopeful or just in denial about dropping him into that next tier.

RE Portis-Good points. I hope he falls to the second round. I'd love to have him there and have him be my top rb. Re-"You can't win your fantasy league with your first round pick, but you can sure lose it".It's just a saying. You CAN win with a great year out of your first round pick. Guys like Faulk, Priest, LT and Alexander proved as much (how many times have I read on these very forums "I rode xxxx all the way to the title?). And if you lose because of a bad pick in round one, you probably didn't draft too well in the other rounds. Bottom line-it's just an old saying. Not much validity to it.

I could care less about the exact interpretation of that quote -- not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about drafting a RB with your 4th or 5th pick that might have problems playing. It is a very real POSSIBILITY. As such, I'll look elsewhere and move on, in THIS situation.

 

[massraider]

I have been real high on Portis this season, I have had him as my RB1 all pre-season, but he has really turned into the ultimate high risk/high reward player.I can't help but think that Portis will be at 80%-90% for much of the first month of the season, and that Betts will get the majority of goalline carries during that span. If that's true and Betts proves to be effective at the goalline, I can't imagine Portis getting the ball inside the ball with a bad shoulder for the rest of the season.Another area of concern: how much can his shoulder improve during the season? I mean after he get's tackled I can't imagine that his shoulder will get much better. He's really one tackle away from missing the entire season. I know that every player is "one play away", but the odds for Portis missing time have been greatly increased.As big of a fan as I have been of Portis (and I sit in the 4 spot), I really don't think that he's worth the selection. Call it personal preference, but I keep recalling the old saying Now if you are sitting in the 4 spot and you welcome the risk/reward so be it, but for me I have to think with my head and not my heart and for me that means that Barber is my choice this season at the 4 spot.

EXACTLY.He was pissed after the game, remember the comments? I put more credence in that actually, than the coaches who are merely hopeful (going into a season).I am surpriised people haven't moved him into that 3rd tier, and the bottom at that. I think they are too stubborn, hopeful or just in denial about dropping him into that next tier.

RE Portis-Good points. I hope he falls to the second round. I'd love to have him there and have him be my top rb. Re-"You can't win your fantasy league with your first round pick, but you can sure lose it".It's just a saying. You CAN win with a great year out of your first round pick. Guys like Faulk, Priest, LT and Alexander proved as much (how many times have I read on these very forums "I rode xxxx all the way to the title?). And if you lose because of a bad pick in round one, you probably didn't draft too well in the other rounds. Bottom line-it's just an old saying. Not much validity to it.

I could care less about the exact interpretation of that quote -- not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about drafting a RB with your 4th or 5th pick that might have problems playing. It is a very real POSSIBILITY. As such, I'll look elsewhere and move on, in THIS situation.

THere is a very real history of backs with that many touches over a two year period having a down year. I haven't been in a position to draft Portis, but it would give me pause.

 

[redman]

I have been real high on Portis this season, I have had him as my RB1 all pre-season, but he has really turned into the ultimate high risk/high reward player.I can't help but think that Portis will be at 80%-90% for much of the first month of the season, and that Betts will get the majority of goalline carries during that span. If that's true and Betts proves to be effective at the goalline, I can't imagine Portis getting the ball inside the ball with a bad shoulder for the rest of the season.Another area of concern: how much can his shoulder improve during the season? I mean after he get's tackled I can't imagine that his shoulder will get much better. He's really one tackle away from missing the entire season. I know that every player is "one play away", but the odds for Portis missing time have been greatly increased.As big of a fan as I have been of Portis (and I sit in the 4 spot), I really don't think that he's worth the selection. Call it personal preference, but I keep recalling the old saying Now if you are sitting in the 4 spot and you welcome the risk/reward so be it, but for me I have to think with my head and not my heart and for me that means that Barber is my choice this season at the 4 spot.

EXACTLY.He was pissed after the game, remember the comments? I put more credence in that actually, than the coaches who are merely hopeful (going into a season).I am surpriised people haven't moved him into that 3rd tier, and the bottom at that. I think they are too stubborn, hopeful or just in denial about dropping him into that next tier.

RE Portis-Good points. I hope he falls to the second round. I'd love to have him there and have him be my top rb. Re-"You can't win your fantasy league with your first round pick, but you can sure lose it".It's just a saying. You CAN win with a great year out of your first round pick. Guys like Faulk, Priest, LT and Alexander proved as much (how many times have I read on these very forums "I rode xxxx all the way to the title?). And if you lose because of a bad pick in round one, you probably didn't draft too well in the other rounds. Bottom line-it's just an old saying. Not much validity to it.

I could care less about the exact interpretation of that quote -- not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about drafting a RB with your 4th or 5th pick that might have problems playing. It is a very real POSSIBILITY. As such, I'll look elsewhere and move on, in THIS situation.

THere is a very real history of backs with that many touches over a two year period having a down year. I haven't been in a position to draft Portis, but it would give me pause.

Every one of the Big 3 had that many touches too, except for LJ in 2004 when he was still backing up Holmes. That doesn't seem to have affected peoples' estimation of their production this coming season.

 

[massraider]

I have been real high on Portis this season, I have had him as my RB1 all pre-season, but he has really turned into the ultimate high risk/high reward player.I can't help but think that Portis will be at 80%-90% for much of the first month of the season, and that Betts will get the majority of goalline carries during that span. If that's true and Betts proves to be effective at the goalline, I can't imagine Portis getting the ball inside the ball with a bad shoulder for the rest of the season.Another area of concern: how much can his shoulder improve during the season? I mean after he get's tackled I can't imagine that his shoulder will get much better. He's really one tackle away from missing the entire season. I know that every player is "one play away", but the odds for Portis missing time have been greatly increased.As big of a fan as I have been of Portis (and I sit in the 4 spot), I really don't think that he's worth the selection. Call it personal preference, but I keep recalling the old saying Now if you are sitting in the 4 spot and you welcome the risk/reward so be it, but for me I have to think with my head and not my heart and for me that means that Barber is my choice this season at the 4 spot.

EXACTLY.He was pissed after the game, remember the comments? I put more credence in that actually, than the coaches who are merely hopeful (going into a season).I am surpriised people haven't moved him into that 3rd tier, and the bottom at that. I think they are too stubborn, hopeful or just in denial about dropping him into that next tier.

RE Portis-Good points. I hope he falls to the second round. I'd love to have him there and have him be my top rb. Re-"You can't win your fantasy league with your first round pick, but you can sure lose it".It's just a saying. You CAN win with a great year out of your first round pick. Guys like Faulk, Priest, LT and Alexander proved as much (how many times have I read on these very forums "I rode xxxx all the way to the title?). And if you lose because of a bad pick in round one, you probably didn't draft too well in the other rounds. Bottom line-it's just an old saying. Not much validity to it.

I could care less about the exact interpretation of that quote -- not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about drafting a RB with your 4th or 5th pick that might have problems playing. It is a very real POSSIBILITY. As such, I'll look elsewhere and move on, in THIS situation.

THere is a very real history of backs with that many touches over a two year period having a down year. I haven't been in a position to draft Portis, but it would give me pause.

Every one of the Big 3 had that many touches too, except for LJ in 2004 when he was still backing up Holmes. That doesn't seem to have affected peoples' estimation of their production this coming season.

Doesn't make that history any less true. LT had some boo-boos last year, and Portis is not a big guy, and coming off 801 total touches the last two years (playoffs included). THe last 10 backs coming off 800 touches that had top 10 fantasy rankings, finished an average of 17 the following year. For a 1st rounder, those are bust numbers.I think there's a concern with LT for sure. Alexander? Personally, I rarely see him get blasted. he always slithers to the ground. It's not very scientific, i know, but that's why I think he's the safest pick.And none of those guys currently has a seperated shoulder.

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

Not so fast all you Portis hopefulls'......................................

Clinton Portis-RB-Redskins Aug. 16 - 7:12 pm et

Redskins running backs coach Ernest Byner doesn't believe that when Clinton Portis (shoulder) returns he can stay 100 percent.

Portis is questionable for the start of the season. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so," Byner said. "And possibly taking some of the pounding off him." Lessening Portis' workload would hurt his fantasy numbers.

Source: Washington Times

And as a Ladell Betts holder, im quite happy..........trade bait baby!

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Blogger:

August 16, 2006, 07:25 Redskins :: RBRedskins Devising Plans To Limit RB PortisRyan O'Halloran, Washington Times - [Full Article]"With RB Ladell Betts and RB Rock Cartwright, and the way things are set up, we can definitely have success with them," running backs coach Earnest Byner said. Because when RB Clinton Portis does return, it's unlikely he will stay 100 percent for long. And Byner said discussions already are under way to create ways to limit Portis' punishment. "That's one of the aspects we have to consider," Byner said. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so and possibly taking some of the pounding off him."

Not so fast all you Portis hopefulls'...................................... Clinton Portis-RB-Redskins Aug. 16 - 7:12 pm et Redskins running backs coach Ernest Byner doesn't believe that when Clinton Portis (shoulder) returns he can stay 100 percent.Portis is questionable for the start of the season. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so," Byner said. "And possibly taking some of the pounding off him." Lessening Portis' workload would hurt his fantasy numbers.Source: Washington Times And as a Ladell Betts holder, im quite happy..........trade bait baby!

Too late.

 

[BoltzNBrew]

I guess this means I can turn down the Julius Jones for Portis trade I was just offered.

 

[redman]

And none of those guys currently has a seperated shoulder.

I'm not confused about that being unique to Portis. I was just addressing the comment about multitude of carries.

 

[Al Toon's Mole]

Blogger:

August 16, 2006, 07:25 Redskins :: RBRedskins Devising Plans To Limit RB PortisRyan O'Halloran, Washington Times - [Full Article]"With RB Ladell Betts and RB Rock Cartwright, and the way things are set up, we can definitely have success with them," running backs coach Earnest Byner said. Because when RB Clinton Portis does return, it's unlikely he will stay 100 percent for long. And Byner said discussions already are under way to create ways to limit Portis' punishment. "That's one of the aspects we have to consider," Byner said. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so and possibly taking some of the pounding off him."

Not so fast all you Portis hopefulls'...................................... Clinton Portis-RB-Redskins Aug. 16 - 7:12 pm et Redskins running backs coach Ernest Byner doesn't believe that when Clinton Portis (shoulder) returns he can stay 100 percent.Portis is questionable for the start of the season. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so," Byner said. "And possibly taking some of the pounding off him." Lessening Portis' workload would hurt his fantasy numbers.Source: Washington Times And as a Ladell Betts holder, im quite happy..........trade bait baby!

Too late.

damn you Nigel.....hahaha, do your computer speakers go to 11?

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Blogger:

August 16, 2006, 07:25 Redskins :: RBRedskins Devising Plans To Limit RB PortisRyan O'Halloran, Washington Times - [Full Article]"With RB Ladell Betts and RB Rock Cartwright, and the way things are set up, we can definitely have success with them," running backs coach Earnest Byner said. Because when RB Clinton Portis does return, it's unlikely he will stay 100 percent for long. And Byner said discussions already are under way to create ways to limit Portis' punishment. "That's one of the aspects we have to consider," Byner said. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so and possibly taking some of the pounding off him."

Not so fast all you Portis hopefulls'...................................... Clinton Portis-RB-Redskins Aug. 16 - 7:12 pm et Redskins running backs coach Ernest Byner doesn't believe that when Clinton Portis (shoulder) returns he can stay 100 percent.Portis is questionable for the start of the season. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so," Byner said. "And possibly taking some of the pounding off him." Lessening Portis' workload would hurt his fantasy numbers.Source: Washington Times And as a Ladell Betts holder, im quite happy..........trade bait baby!

Too late.

damn you Nigel.....hahaha, do your computer speakers go to 11?

They absolutely do, mate.

 

[redman]

Blogger:

August 16, 2006, 07:25 Redskins :: RBRedskins Devising Plans To Limit RB PortisRyan O'Halloran, Washington Times - [Full Article]"With RB Ladell Betts and RB Rock Cartwright, and the way things are set up, we can definitely have success with them," running backs coach Earnest Byner said. Because when RB Clinton Portis does return, it's unlikely he will stay 100 percent for long. And Byner said discussions already are under way to create ways to limit Portis' punishment. "That's one of the aspects we have to consider," Byner said. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so and possibly taking some of the pounding off him."

Not so fast all you Portis hopefulls'...................................... Clinton Portis-RB-Redskins Aug. 16 - 7:12 pm et Redskins running backs coach Ernest Byner doesn't believe that when Clinton Portis (shoulder) returns he can stay 100 percent.Portis is questionable for the start of the season. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so," Byner said. "And possibly taking some of the pounding off him." Lessening Portis' workload would hurt his fantasy numbers.Source: Washington Times And as a Ladell Betts holder, im quite happy..........trade bait baby!

Too late.

damn you Nigel.....hahaha, do your computer speakers go to 11?

They absolutely do, mate.

He would also make an excellent haberdasher.

 

[Nigel Tufnel]

Blogger:

August 16, 2006, 07:25 Redskins :: RBRedskins Devising Plans To Limit RB PortisRyan O'Halloran, Washington Times - [Full Article]"With RB Ladell Betts and RB Rock Cartwright, and the way things are set up, we can definitely have success with them," running backs coach Earnest Byner said. Because when RB Clinton Portis does return, it's unlikely he will stay 100 percent for long. And Byner said discussions already are under way to create ways to limit Portis' punishment. "That's one of the aspects we have to consider," Byner said. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so and possibly taking some of the pounding off him."

Not so fast all you Portis hopefulls'...................................... Clinton Portis-RB-Redskins Aug. 16 - 7:12 pm et Redskins running backs coach Ernest Byner doesn't believe that when Clinton Portis (shoulder) returns he can stay 100 percent.Portis is questionable for the start of the season. "We have to look at the other guys stepping in even more so," Byner said. "And possibly taking some of the pounding off him." Lessening Portis' workload would hurt his fantasy numbers.Source: Washington Times And as a Ladell Betts holder, im quite happy..........trade bait baby!

Too late.

damn you Nigel.....hahaha, do your computer speakers go to 11?

They absolutely do, mate.

He would also make an excellent haberdasher.

"Well, I don't know - wh-wh-... what're the hours?"

 

[Skinsfansince72]

Not so fast all you Portis hopefulls'...................................... Clinton Portis-RB-Redskins Aug. 16 - 7:12 pm et Redskins running backs coach Ernest Byner doesn't believe that when Clinton Portis (shoulder) returns he can stay 100 percent.

Name the running back that has stayed 100% for an entire season. I can't think of a single one. In fact, I can think of very few. if any, players who are 100% after the first few of weeks of an NFL season. Portis wasn't 100 percent for an entire season in Denver(either season) nor has he been 100 % all season during the 2 years he's been here. I'll take him at 85-90%. As long as he's out there, he's a factor.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

Not so fast all you Portis hopefulls'...................................... Clinton Portis-RB-Redskins Aug. 16 - 7:12 pm et Redskins running backs coach Ernest Byner doesn't believe that when Clinton Portis (shoulder) returns he can stay 100 percent.

Name the running back that has stayed 100% for an entire season. I can't think of a single one. In fact, I can think of very few. if any, players who are 100% after the first few of weeks of an NFL season. Portis wasn't 100 percent for an entire season in Denver(either season) nor has he been 100 % all season during the 2 years he's been here. I'll take him at 85-90%. As long as he's out there, he's a factor.

Man is that ever sugar-coated.

 

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Let's just say that Portis will lose 10% of his inital projected carries.

This puts him at around 270 carries.

Now let's say he drops a tenth of a point from his projected YPC to 4.2

Now let's be even more conservative and assume he loses 20% of his TDs due to diminished goaline use.

I don't see this affecting his targets at a receiver... if anything they might try to use him as a passing target MORE since he won't be bruising straight into a line. However... let's just assume no change.

For the record, I think those numbers above are a bit on the pessimistic side.... However this still leaves him around 1130 yards with 8TDs on top of some solid receiving numbers.... leaving him around RB10 to RB 12 territory.

To me he's got a bit of upside from there and not much more downside (not much additional serious injury risk comparable to other RBs).

I DO think the "spelling" of him will diminish as the season goes on if the Skins are in the playoff hunt and Portis doesn't aggrivate the injury anymore.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

' date='Aug 16 2006, 09:37 PM' post='5346081']Let's just say that Portis will lose 10% of his inital projected carries. This puts him at around 270 carries. Now let's say he drops a tenth of a point from his projected YPC to 4.2Now let's be even more conservative and assume he loses 20% of his TDs due to diminished goaline use. I don't see this affecting his targets at a receiver... if anything they might try to use him as a passing target MORE since he won't be bruising straight into a line. However... let's just assume no change. For the record, I think those numbers above are a bit on the pessimistic side.... However this still leaves him around 1130 yards with 8TDs on top of some solid receiving numbers.... leaving him around RB10 to RB 12 territory. To me he's got a bit of upside from there and not much more downside (not much additional serious injury risk comparable to other RBs). I DO think the "spelling" of him will diminish as the season goes on if the Skins are in the playoff hunt and Portis doesn't aggrivate the injury anymore.

Good stuff. But my issue is the shoulder not getting better through a whole season. And it could easily get worse. That's altogether different than say, a team deciding to lessen a workload.

 

[Skinsfansince72]

Not so fast all you Portis hopefulls'...................................... Clinton Portis-RB-Redskins Aug. 16 - 7:12 pm et Redskins running backs coach Ernest Byner doesn't believe that when Clinton Portis (shoulder) returns he can stay 100 percent.

Name the running back that has stayed 100% for an entire season. I can't think of a single one. In fact, I can think of very few. if any, players who are 100% after the first few of weeks of an NFL season. Portis wasn't 100 percent for an entire season in Denver(either season) nor has he been 100 % all season during the 2 years he's been here. I'll take him at 85-90%. As long as he's out there, he's a factor.

Man is that ever sugar-coated.

No sugar. Earnest Byner gets paid to coach running backs. He gets paid no cash to advise fantasy football players. I listened to what he said and it's more than clear that he's assuming the worst and hoping for the best. At the end of the day, I'm going to listen to the doc that examined him. I don't expect I'll be the one to draft him since I play with a few people who always seem to draft Skins players long before they should. I'm also keeping him right where he is on my priority(4th rb) chart until I hear that his condition is worse than the doc originally thought(my draft is still more than 2 weeks away). As a Skins fan, I hope the team operates on the premise that running back is going to be an issue all season long. Something tells me they will.

 

[redman]

Here's the latest, from Portis himself:

"I'm not gonna rush back," said Portis, who won't play in Washington's three remaining preseason games but hopes to be ready for Sept. 11's season opener against Minnesota at FedEx Field. "We're going try to get it well and shoot for this first game against the Vikings. Hopefully everything is fine by then."

Portis said his shoulder doesn't hurt when he's active but tends to stiffen up at night.

"I'm gonna give it a week before I really start exerting it," he said.

Link

 

[Rovers]

LMAO. Portis, in the SECOND round? People, are you serious?

Might he lose some goal line carries? yes, but Portis is not a guy who takes well to being subbed for when the games count. I think he'll go off if he isn't on a pace for 300 carries minimum, as long as he feels OK. He likes to talk, isn't shy, and is still the feature RB. Yes, I think if he starts to complain, they will give him the carries he wants. Portis is a competitor. He won't be happy about any hint of RBBC.... as long as he is OK physically.

 

[Big Score]

LMAO. Portis, in the SECOND round? People, are you serious? Might he lose some goal line carries? yes, but Portis is not a guy who takes well to being subbed for when the games count. I think he'll go off if he isn't on a pace for 300 carries minimum, as long as he feels OK. He likes to talk, isn't shy, and is still the feature RB. Yes, I think if he starts to complain, they will give him the carries he wants. Portis is a competitor. He won't be happy about any hint of RBBC.... as long as he is OK physically.

Agree 100% with you here Rovers.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

LMAO. Portis, in the SECOND round? People, are you serious? Might he lose some goal line carries? yes, but Portis is not a guy who takes well to being subbed for when the games count. I think he'll go off if he isn't on a pace for 300 carries minimum, as long as he feels OK. He likes to talk, isn't shy, and is still the feature RB. Yes, I think if he starts to complain, they will give him the carries he wants. Portis is a competitor. He won't be happy about any hint of RBBC.... as long as he is OK physically.

That's just it. It's up to his shoulder, not him. So why should we be convinced it will be fine?

 

[softball]

LMAO. Portis, in the SECOND round? People, are you serious? Might he lose some goal line carries? yes, but Portis is not a guy who takes well to being subbed for when the games count. I think he'll go off if he isn't on a pace for 300 carries minimum, as long as he feels OK. He likes to talk, isn't shy, and is still the feature RB. Yes, I think if he starts to complain, they will give him the carries he wants. Portis is a competitor. He won't be happy about any hint of RBBC.... as long as he is OK physically.

That's just it. It's up to his shoulder, not him. So why should we be convinced it will be fine?

Get him, ride him and if it isn't fine...be sure you take Betts.

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

LMAO. Portis, in the SECOND round? People, are you serious? Might he lose some goal line carries? yes, but Portis is not a guy who takes well to being subbed for when the games count. I think he'll go off if he isn't on a pace for 300 carries minimum, as long as he feels OK. He likes to talk, isn't shy, and is still the feature RB. Yes, I think if he starts to complain, they will give him the carries he wants. Portis is a competitor. He won't be happy about any hint of RBBC.... as long as he is OK physically.

That's just it. It's up to his shoulder, not him. So why should we be convinced it will be fine?

Get him, ride him and if it isn't fine...be sure you take Betts.

No thanks, not the tier he's currently in.