Post Your Ten Best 2012 NFL Teams (1 Viewer)

[BassNBrew]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position

1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten

2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston

3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstances

4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it matters

5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal

6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the league

7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respect

8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong again

9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.

10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and Hyde

Not much of a shake up here from last week.

 

[cracKer]

Niners beat Green Bay and multiple teams that've beaten the Patriots. Not sold? You favor offense, fantasy football has wrecked your brain

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstances4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it matters5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the league7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respect8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong again9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and HydeNot much of a shake up here from last week.

Man, what a schedule Atlanta has had. Seeing as how (poorly) they've played vs Oakland, Dallas, Washington, I don't think they beat Chicago, Green Bay, San Fran or the Giants. They will get their chance vs the Giants but that's it for playoff caliber teams they will or have had to face.Chicago needs to be neck and neck with Green Bay around 3-4 I think for best in the NFC and ATL should maybe be a notch above SF around 7-8. Ok so they're unbeaten, if they want to crown `em crown `em, but if we're doing this BCS style have to reflect schedules (see Louisville). Just my view.

 

[BassNBrew]

Niners beat Green Bay and multiple teams that've beaten the Patriots. Not sold? You favor offense, fantasy football has wrecked your brain

I'm like the BCS...take a week off and get dropped. The Giants crushing them at home is a huge factor for me here. Green Bay is better now than earlier in the year. Since the loss to Minny they've beaten Seattle, NYJ, Buffalo, and Arizona. They get to feast on STL next week before the Chicago game which should be telling.

 

[BassNBrew]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstances4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it matters5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the league7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respect8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong again9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and HydeNot much of a shake up here from last week.

Man, what a schedule Atlanta has had. Seeing as how (poorly) they've played vs Oakland, Dallas, Washington, I don't think they beat Chicago, Green Bay, San Fran or the Giants. They will get their chance vs the Giants but that's it for playoff caliber teams they will or have had to face.Chicago needs to be neck and neck with Green Bay around 3-4 I think for best in the NFC and ATL should maybe be a notch above SF around 7-8. Ok so they're unbeaten, if they want to crown `em crown `em, but if we're doing this BCS style have to reflect schedules (see Louisville). Just my view.

I really want to bump Chicago, but they really should have lost to Carolina at home. Chicago gets Houston and San Fran the next two weeks so they'll have their chance to move up the rankings. The combined record of the teams they've faced is 23-36.

 

[Almas_4th_Child]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position

1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten Yep

2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston You are what your record says you are. GB has won by more than two touchdowns once(HOU)...lets look at those jaugarnauts of Jacksonville, St Louis, and Arizona. They even lost to the Colts.

3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstancesSoft schedule/AFC this year helps them, although they crushed Balt.

4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it mattersWell if you say so

5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal They've played 4 legit teams and lost 3 of those games.

6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the leagueIncorrect, 3rd best net points in the league. Need to shore up that pass d, but the rest of the team is good.

7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respectBlowing teams out, only 2 of 7 wins were close. Know more about them in 2 weeks.

8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong againSolid team, will go as far as Alex Smith

9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.Mirage, they only make playoffs because of week AFC

10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and HydeCorrect

Not much of a shake up here from last week.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstances4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it matters5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the league7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respect8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong again9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and HydeNot much of a shake up here from last week.

I personally like Chicago, San Fran, and maybe NYG over Atlanta in the NFC.I'm interested to see what Houston does in Chicago this weekend. I'm not sure I believe in them.

 

[Assani Fisher]

1. Patriots

2. Texans

3. 49ers

4. Packers

5. Falcons

6. Bears

7. Broncos

8. Giants

9. Steelers

10. Seahawks

 

[BassNBrew]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position

1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten Yep

2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston You are what your record says you are. GB has won by more than two touchdowns once(HOU)...lets look at those jaugarnauts of Jacksonville, St Louis, and Arizona. They even lost to the Colts.

3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstancesSoft schedule/AFC this year helps them, although they crushed Balt.

4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it mattersWell if you say so

5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal They've played 4 legit teams and lost 3 of those games.

6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the leagueIncorrect, 3rd best net points in the league. Need to shore up that pass d, but the rest of the team is good.

7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respectBlowing teams out, only 2 of 7 wins were close. Know more about them in 2 weeks.

8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong againSolid team, will go as far as Alex Smith

9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.Mirage, they only make playoffs because of week AFC

10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and HydeCorrect

Not much of a shake up here from last week.

Not sure what happened regarding Eli getting it done. That was from a week ago and I had typed out "Giving the Giants a pass based on this week's circumstances" but must have deleted it.

 

[BassNBrew]

1. Patriots2. Texans3. 49ers4. Packers5. Falcons6. Bears7. Broncos8. Giants9. Steelers10. Seahawks

You think Seattle beats Baltimore on a neutral site?

 

[Shlon]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstances4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it matters5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the league7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respect8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong again9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and HydeNot much of a shake up here from last week.

Man, what a schedule Atlanta has had. Seeing as how (poorly) they've played vs Oakland, Dallas, Washington, I don't think they beat Chicago, Green Bay, San Fran or the Giants. They will get their chance vs the Giants but that's it for playoff caliber teams they will or have had to face.Chicago needs to be neck and neck with Green Bay around 3-4 I think for best in the NFC and ATL should maybe be a notch above SF around 7-8. Ok so they're unbeaten, if they want to crown `em crown `em, but if we're doing this BCS style have to reflect schedules (see Louisville). Just my view.

Speaking of records, at least Atlanta beat a team with a winning record (Denver), Chicago hasn't beaten a team with a winning record and got destroyed by the one team that did (Green Bay).Atlanta beat 4 teams convincingly (Kansas City, Denver, San Diego, Philadelphia). 2 Teams had control of the game (Washington, Dallas), and 2 teams where they struggled but still won (Carolina, Oakland). Every team in the NFL besides the Falcons have had games where they looked bad and lost (49ers with Vikings & Giants), (Bears with Packers), (Texans with Packers), (Patriots with Cardinals), (Giants with Cowboys, Eagles, and Steelers), (Packers with their losses), etc.

 

[Assani Fisher]

1. Patriots2. Texans3. 49ers4. Packers5. Falcons6. Bears7. Broncos8. Giants9. Steelers10. Seahawks

You think Seattle beats Baltimore on a neutral site?

I think theres a clear top 9(maybe 8 if you aren't sold on Steelers) and a dropoff after that, so I think its splitting hairs to debate #10 vs #11.Ravens last 4 gamesCle: Browns outgained them 290-282 in yards@Hou: Texans outgained them 420-176 in yardsDal: Cowboys outgained them 481-316 in yards@KC: Chiefs outgained them 338-298 in yardsThey've been very fortunate to go 3-1 in these games, and theres a large luck/variance component to that. With that said, its very possible that me being a Ravens fan has me overly critical of them. I'm fine with having Baltimore at #10(or even #9 because ##### the Steelers)

 

[Ghost Rider]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position

1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten

2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston

3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstances

4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it matters

5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal

6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the league

7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respect

8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong again

9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.

10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and Hyde

Not much of a shake up here from last week.

Speaking of records, at least Atlanta beat a team with a winning record (Denver), Chicago hasn't beaten a team with a winning record and got destroyed by the one team that did (Green Bay).

The Bears beat the Colts by 20 points in Week 1. The Colts are 5-3.

I really want to bump Chicago, but they really should have lost to Carolina at home.

But they didn't. Should we change the record of every team that should have won or lost a game?

 

[Ghost Rider]

Also, here is a fun stat:

Of the top 10 (which would most agree on what those 10 teams are), only three of them have beaten a winning team by 20+:

Chicago (beat Indy by 20)

NYG (beat SF by 23)

Houston (beat Balt by 30)

 

[BassNBrew]

1. Patriots2. Texans3. 49ers4. Packers5. Falcons6. Bears7. Broncos8. Giants9. Steelers10. Seahawks

You think Seattle beats Baltimore on a neutral site?

I think theres a clear top 9(maybe 8 if you aren't sold on Steelers) and a dropoff after that, so I think its splitting hairs to debate #10 vs #11.Ravens last 4 gamesCle: Browns outgained them 290-282 in yards@Hou: Texans outgained them 420-176 in yardsDal: Cowboys outgained them 481-316 in yards@KC: Chiefs outgained them 338-298 in yardsThey've been very fortunate to go 3-1 in these games, and theres a large luck/variance component to that. With that said, its very possible that me being a Ravens fan has me overly critical of them. I'm fine with having Baltimore at #10(or even #9 because ##### the Steelers)

Seattle is 4-0 at home and 1-4 on the road. That 1 should have been a loss. The GB game was lucky at best. Basically both teams have been fortunate, but one sits at 6-2 while the other is 5-4.

 

[BassNBrew]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position

1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten

2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston

3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstances

4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it matters

5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal

6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the league

7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respect

8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong again

9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.

10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and Hyde

Not much of a shake up here from last week.

Speaking of records, at least Atlanta beat a team with a winning record (Denver), Chicago hasn't beaten a team with a winning record and got destroyed by the one team that did (Green Bay).

The Bears beat the Colts by 20 points in Week 1. The Colts are 5-3.

I really want to bump Chicago, but they really should have lost to Carolina at home.

But they didn't. Should we change the record of every team that should have won or lost a game?

Here's where I'm coming from on Chicago (and they're my orginal rooting interest)

- Beat Indy who I have in my bottom half. Gave up 300+ to Luck. Not impressed.

- Got totally owned by Green Bay.

- Handled a crummy STL team.

- Easily beat Dallas. Giving them credit here for a decent win.

- Destoryed Jax. Everyone basically has except Indy.

- Beat Detriot but only managed 13 pts. Everyone has hung 20+ on Det except Chicago and Indy.

- Slide by Carolina despite being outplayed for 55 minutes.

- Destroyed Tenn.

I'm just looking for a glimmer that they can beat GB, Atl, NYG, SF. On a neutral site I don't have them as a clear cut favorite. While the D has made headlines, they're only 6th in yards per game allowed and 25th in yards gained. That's not enough offense to be a top tier team.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstances4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it matters5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the league7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respect8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong again9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and HydeNot much of a shake up here from last week.

Man, what a schedule Atlanta has had. Seeing as how (poorly) they've played vs Oakland, Dallas, Washington, I don't think they beat Chicago, Green Bay, San Fran or the Giants. They will get their chance vs the Giants but that's it for playoff caliber teams they will or have had to face.Chicago needs to be neck and neck with Green Bay around 3-4 I think for best in the NFC and ATL should maybe be a notch above SF around 7-8. Ok so they're unbeaten, if they want to crown `em crown `em, but if we're doing this BCS style have to reflect schedules (see Louisville). Just my view.

Speaking of records, at least Atlanta beat a team with a winning record (Denver), Chicago hasn't beaten a team with a winning record and got destroyed by the one team that did (Green Bay).Atlanta beat 4 teams convincingly (Kansas City, Denver, San Diego, Philadelphia). 2 Teams had control of the game (Washington, Dallas), and 2 teams where they struggled but still won (Carolina, Oakland). Every team in the NFL besides the Falcons have had games where they looked bad and lost (49ers with Vikings & Giants), (Bears with Packers), (Texans with Packers), (Patriots with Cardinals), (Giants with Cowboys, Eagles, and Steelers), (Packers with their losses), etc.

I will try to avoid wouldacouldashouldas but let's look at quality of wins:- Denver: well I'm not sure Payton comes out flinging 3 picks early like that too often; ATL *hangs* on 27-21, lucky to escape that one.- Carolina: 2 point win. Yes, struggled is right.- Oakland: Thank you, Carson.- Washington & Dallas: I watched those games and I never had the sense ATL was "in control" of those games. WAS is talent challenged outside of QB and maybe Morris, but Dallas is just Dallas. A wash.My point about The Bears is how good their defense ha been. Now they truly have been "in control" of 6 out of 8 games. They also "struggled" with Carolina. In that Green Bay game they were thoroughly dominated ,but then last I checked ATL was thoroughly dominated the last time they played a playoff quality opponent, in the actual playoffs. It just seems to me that Ryan and Gonzalez are declining as the season goes on while Chicago looks like a team that is capable of dominating most games.Good luck next week. What could possibly go wrong?

 

[Assani Fisher]

But they didn't. Should we change the record of every team that should have won or lost a game?

Looking at advanced data(DVOA, yards gained, etc.) has historically been better at predicting future results than merely saying "this team won, therefore they are exactly as good as their record indicates." Its a big reason why I think the "ATL is undefeated, therefore they are #1" is incorrect logic.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Here's where I'm coming from on Chicago (and they're my orginal rooting interest)- Beat Indy who I have in my bottom half. Gave up 300+ to Luck. Not impressed.- Got totally owned by Green Bay.- Handled a crummy STL team.- Easily beat Dallas. Giving them credit here for a decent win.- Destoryed Jax. Everyone basically has except Indy.- Beat Detriot but only managed 13 pts. Everyone has hung 20+ on Det except Chicago and Indy.- Slide by Carolina despite being outplayed for 55 minutes.- Destroyed Tenn.I'm just looking for a glimmer that they can beat GB, Atl, NYG, SF. On a neutral site I don't have them as a clear cut favorite. While the D has made headlines, they're only 6th in yards per game allowed and 25th in yards gained. That's not enough offense to be a top tier team.

You can put Indy in your bottom half all you want, but they are still a winning team that the Bears beat, something you said they hadn't done. Also, I think some of you are having revisionist history in regards to that GB/Chi game. Got totally owned by GB? Er, no. That was neck and neck for the whole first half until GB pulled off a fake FG, and then the game was still within reach in the 4th quarter until Cutler fell apart. In other words, keeping a game close till the 4th quarter is not getting totally owned. Also, your dismissal of their other wins is kind of funny. A crummy STL team? You mean the same Rams team that beat the Seahawks the following week and started 3-2? Everyone has destroyed Jax? The Bears beat them by 38. No one else has beaten them by more than 20; GB beat them by 9; Minnesota beat them by 3.The 8-0 Falcons also just slid by the Panthers.Like I have said before, I think many don't believe in the Bears cause they win ugly, but everyone said the same thing about them two years ago, and they ended up in the NFC title game.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstances4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it matters5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the league7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respect8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong again9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and HydeNot much of a shake up here from last week.

So the Steelers go into New York and beat the Giants without their top two RBs, Troy Polamalu, starting RT, and #2 WR for a big chunk of the game.Yet you have the Giants at #4 and the Steelers at #9. I'd say Ben gets it done when it matters, too.This Steelers team isn't as good as some of the recent ones, but that's kinda off to me.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

1 - Atl

2 - Houston

3 - Chicago

4 - Green Bay

5 - SF

6 - Balt

7 - NE

8 - NYG

9 - Pitt

10 - Denver

 

[bweiser]

If the Ravens are the 10th best team in the NFL, there are 9 good teams in the league and the rest are average at best. I just don't think they are very good RIGHT NOW.

 

[Assani Fisher]

-Green Bay was up 23-3 over the Bears before a meaningless score with 6:00 to go.

-The Bears had 168 total yards of offense, the Packers had 321

-The Bears had 22 total yards of offense in the 1st half, falling behind 13-0.

-The Bears offense crossed midfield one time all game(they also started one drive in GB territory for 2 total possessions in which they were on the GB side of the field)

-Cutler threw the ball 31 times. He completed 11 passes to his own team and 4 to the other team.

I think Chicago is one of the top tier teams(there are 8 of them imo), but its kinda silly to act like that game was all that close. With that said, it was just one game and Forte getting injured in the middle of the game definitely impacted it....we can give a team a pass for one bad game imo.

 

[Ghost Rider]

So the Steelers go into New York and beat the Giants without their top two RBs, Troy Polamalu, starting RT, and #2 WR for a big chunk of the game.Yet you have the Giants at #4 and the Steelers at #9. I'd say Ben gets it done when it matters, too.This Steelers team isn't as good as some of the recent ones, but that's kinda off to me.

I hear what you are saying, but the Steelers have losses to the Raiders and Titans, which are much worse losses than any of NYG's. And the Steelers don't have a win as impressive as NYG's at SF. Given that, I think NYG ahead of Pittsburgh makes sense, despite this past Sunday's result. But I can see the other side of the argument.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

1 GB

2 NE

3 ATL

4 HOU

5 SF

6 PIT

7 NYG

8 CHI

9 DEN

10 BAL

 

[BassNBrew]

Numbers in paren are last weeks position1. Atlanta (1) - Only unbeaten2. Green Bay (2) - Better than their record, beat Houston3. Houston (3) - Not putting much emphasis on last week given the circumstances4. NY Giants (4) - Eli gets it done when it matters5. Denver (6) - Manning is the real deal6. New England (5) - Best net pts in the league7. Chicago (8) - Beat a winning team and you'll get respect8. San Fran (7) - Still not sold, maybe wrong again9. Pittsburgh (10) - Injuries holding back this team.10. Baltimore - (9) Jekyl and HydeNot much of a shake up here from last week.

So the Steelers go into New York and beat the Giants without their top two RBs, Troy Polamalu, starting RT, and #2 WR for a big chunk of the game.Yet you have the Giants at #4 and the Steelers at #9. I'd say Ben gets it done when it matters, too.This Steelers team isn't as good as some of the recent ones, but that's kinda off to me.

I moved the Steelers up one place from last week. I personally think Sandy impacted the Giants prep so I'm not putting huge emphasis on last week's result.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

My teams are similar to last week, but the order is becoming more clear:

1. Atlanta- Beat them and we'll talk about moving them down.

2. Houston- HUGE game this weekend with CHI.

3. Chicago- See Houston. Truth be told, I may rank the winner of this game number one next week.

4. SF- Love that defense. If they can establish the run it's gonna be tough for anyone to beat them in a given week.

5. NE- Can score on anyone but they need to sure up that D.

6. Denver- Manning will make this team very hard to beat the the playoffs.

7. GB- Very good team. You can argue they can be ranked as high as four.

8. Pittsburgh- Great win last week. When they get Polamalu back they may shoot up the rankings.

9. NYG- Bad loss last week.

10. Baltimore- Can put Seattle here as well. Balt has a rough schedule from here on out, with Pit twice, Denver and NYG. Even Washington and SD could put up a fight.

 

[tdmills]

-Green Bay was up 23-3 over the Bears before a meaningless score with 6:00 to go. -The Bears had 168 total yards of offense, the Packers had 321-The Bears had 22 total yards of offense in the 1st half, falling behind 13-0. -The Bears offense crossed midfield one time all game(they also started one drive in GB territory for 2 total possessions in which they were on the GB side of the field)-Cutler threw the ball 31 times. He completed 11 passes to his own team and 4 to the other team.I think Chicago is one of the top tier teams(there are 8 of them imo), but its kinda silly to act like that game was all that close. With that said, it was just one game and Forte getting injured in the middle of the game definitely impacted it....we can give a team a pass for one bad game imo.

-It was a 3-0 score until a fake FG with under 2 minutes to go in the first half, it was a 13-3 score with 12 minutes to go in the 4th quarter, it was 23-3 after ten points by GB in a 21 second span and the final score was 23-10(stop cherry picking the score at different points in the game).-Chicago's offense was bad: 5/15 on 3rd down, 4 turnovers, 7 sacks, 168 yards. But given that, how was the score 13-3 until 12 minutes left? The defense(see next point)-Despite playing versus poor field position, offense not generating time to rest, turning the ball over to GB, etc. Chicago's defense played great. If you can hold GB offense to 16 points, that's a win. If you can hold Rodgers to an 85 QB rating, that's a win. If you can force two turnovers and generate 5 sacks, that's a win.

 

[JPeso]

Atlanta

Houston

Green Bay

New York G

New England

Denver

Baltimore

Pittsburgh

Chicago

San Fran

 

[ImTheScientist]

1. Seattle

2. Falcons

3. 49ers

4. Packers

5. Texans

6. Bears

7. Broncos

8. Giants

9. Steelers

10. Baltmiore

 

[Assani Fisher]

-It was a 3-0 score until a fake FG with under 2 minutes to go in the first half, it was a 13-3 score with 12 minutes to go in the 4th quarter, it was 23-3 after ten points by GB in a 21 second span and the final score was 23-10(stop cherry picking the score at different points in the game).

But given that, how was the score 13-3 until 12 minutes left?

Separating garbage time from non-garbage time is a reasonable methodology. It is not "cherry picking." You are the one who is cherry picking imo(seriously, its really strange for you to accuse me of doing that when you clearly do it in your post). Surely you agree that garbage time scores have less predictive value going forward than non-garbage time scores, no?When the game was 16-3, I would assume that both teams still feel they can win and, therefore, play their normal strategies(no prevent defenses, running the ball 3 times in a row just to kill the clock even though its not likely to get you a 1st down, etc.). Therefore I think that all of the scores up until this point and Green Bay's score to make it 23-3 have predictive value going forward. I do not think Chicago's garbage time TD has much predictive value.

 

[tdmills]

-It was a 3-0 score until a fake FG with under 2 minutes to go in the first half, it was a 13-3 score with 12 minutes to go in the 4th quarter, it was 23-3 after ten points by GB in a 21 second span and the final score was 23-10(stop cherry picking the score at different points in the game).

But given that, how was the score 13-3 until 12 minutes left?

Separating garbage time from non-garbage time is a reasonable methodology. It is not "cherry picking." You are the one who is cherry picking imo(seriously, its really strange for you to accuse me of doing that when you clearly do it in your post). Surely you agree that garbage time scores have less predictive value going forward than non-garbage time scores, no?When the game was 16-3, I would assume that both teams still feel they can win and, therefore, play their normal strategies(no prevent defenses, running the ball 3 times in a row just to kill the clock even though its not likely to get you a 1st down, etc.). Therefore I think that all of the scores up until this point and Green Bay's score to make it 23-3 have predictive value going forward. I do not think Chicago's garbage time TD has much predictive value.

I listed almost every score difference during the whole game...how is that cherry picking?7 minutes to go in a game is a long time. Detroit scored 14 points in 20 seconds earlier this season vs the Titans. In fact, 6 touchdowns were scored by both teams over the remaining 7 minutes of the game.